I would make it socially acceptable to take one's own life, and invent
machines to make it convenient - which machines are you talking about?

I would come up with drugs that sedate the mind and target the young, and I
would get sports heroes to advertise them;- which drugs and which 'sports heroes' are you talking about?

It's unfortunate that some of the things on that list happen.

For example:

[B]
I would promote an attitude of loving things and using people, instead of
the other way around;

I would convince people that character is not an issue when it comes to
leadership;

I would attack the family, the backbone of any nation. I would make
divorce acceptable and easy, even fashionable. If the family crumbles, so
does the nation;

[/b]

But a lot of the things on the list are ambigious and/or necessary.

No one is made to watch T.V.- the media is built on what makes money.

As for the issue of marriage- isn't possible that it has been destroyed as an institution because it's so easy to enter into? People usually end up getting divorced shortly after marriage because they don't know the person they are marrying as well as they should.

Taking 'God' out of schools? How would you like it if you or your children were forced to follow someone else's religion?

That seems to be the main point of the article- forcing others to live by your religious laws.

Seriously, how is this in any way an embarrassment for the Nigerian military?

i would convince people to be homosexual and that i  didnt exist. it makes so much sense.

Do you actually believe that the problems we see in the world are due to homosexuality?

Does religion genuinely make anywhere/anything better?

I was under the impression that your God was all powerful- don't you guys teach that God controls everything?

Or, are you saying that God is displeased with himself?

I'm seeing a lot of blanket statements in this thread that aren't true, in the least.

I know plenty of people who are of Asia descent who have never been taught their so called 'mother tongue'.

I'm still laughing.

Probably more so now.

, He has a creation far more better than a mouth

Really?

Please share. What is it?

It's evident (to me at least) that Christianity has been used as an example here. As the 'dominant religion' it is one which most people know something about.

The sad thing about this guy's thread is that there is more than an element of truth in it.

I'm sorry that you have suffered due to so-called 'religious violence'.

But he isn't saying that Christianity is the reason behind the violence, more that religion and the concept behind religion (in general) do not help mankind.

If you think it's only Nigerians involved in fraudulent activities then you are sadly mistaken, it's the way of the world.

Suicide is the most desperate of human acts.

Also, remember that one man's "terrorist" is another man's "freedom fighter".

You can't talk if you don't have a mouth.

I wouldn't pay too much attention to it, fact is people who think like that do so because such people are:

a) none too bright

b) very easily threatened

c) envious, of everything and everyone

It's just a perception about Ijebu ladies that they don't stay in their husband's house and again if the hus is rich they might induced him to death especially if he's rich and not faithful.
they are prepared to kill him and get away with his money.

You could say that about women from any part of the globe.

People are people.

You guys are silly.

To the point that the atheist categorically makes the claim that God does NOT exist, he is required to prove his assertions. So far, I have not got any line in the replies to that effect; and that's why my submission is that no believer owes any atheist any proof in as much as the atheist himself is unable to validate his own claims in any concrete way other than with his mouth

I would love to simply point out that the argument that you have presented works both ways. However there is a problem with that; religion has been a cause of tension, killing and social problems since the dawn of civilisation. Unprovable claims made in the name of a being no man can see.

How much is 90,000 naira in pounds (anyone)?

Does anyone remember/know why Nigeria withdrew from the Nations Cup in South Africa in 1996?

How much would a new PSP cost in Lagos?

1. "does not" is always a negative. You cannot prove a negative.

2. 'atheists' have not not made any claims other than to refute the claims made by deists (specifically those of a religious nature) as to the existence of God and the the evidence (or lack thereof).

Unfortunately there is no link to the revelant Bible passage within the link you posted.

But I did notice that the person who wrote that page used the words 'believe' and 'assume' quite a lot.

You might want to rethink this little claim:

but to make a claim that something* does not exist sounds more like an affirmative

I've played this game before.

Until I see some explicit names and dates I'll treat this as the joke that it is.

The saddest part of all this is that people will continue to teach this to their children and then wonder why the world is such a mess.

These riots have:

a) little to do with religion.

b) even less to do with the cartoons.

1) Events are occurring around the world. (2) The Bible made prophecies about certain events that would occur during the last days. (3) The events occurring right now look remarkably similar to the events the Bible prophesied.

The reason such 'prophecies' appear to be coming to pass is because they are so vague to begin with.

It's just stupid claims like "tomorrow the sun will come out".

All that article shows is someone who has changed his stance from staunch atheist to an agnostic.

You can't prove a negative, so the openess to the possibility of a higher power is logical.

Read it properly, he says nothing to support your ideals. He essentially says that religion has got it wrong.

No suprise there.

I think you forgot to mention one small detail:

"I'm thinking of a God very different from the God of the Christian and far and away from the God of Islam, because both are depicted as omnipotent Oriental despots, cosmic Saddam Husseins,"

This thread is ridiculous.

I have a 3 year old cousin who is more worldly than a lot of you guys.

Fine, if Jesus Christ is coming then lets make a bet- for everything you possess.

If Jesus comes within ten years then I go to hell and you can say 'I told you so'.

But, if there's no sign of Jesus after ten years then I want it all; your house; your car; your spouse; your children- everything!

Thank you and good day.

Just think how much better the world would be if more people thought like this:

Tai Solarin wrote: ‘ My allegiance is to man. Locally to the Nigerian; universally to humanity.’