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Hmm, Agbor Nwanyi = Okpoho. Edo also uses Okpoho.

mbatuku2:
This is one area where Igbo Izugbe comes useful(No disrespect to Chinua Achebe and his likes for their criticism), such words can be preserved in dictionaries and publications. It's not really compulsory that they are used in everyday speech. Even speakers of the English language dont use all words in their day-to-day communication.

When I said day-to-day I mean't daily life, when they needed it. An English person isn't going to use a Chinese word for tower instead of tower, but I can bet 90% of Igbo people say tower as tower.

mbatuku2:
I dont quite agree with you that the new words wont stick because Igbo is a language of education. Are you saying that there are no written works in Igbo? No written examination in Igbo?

If there are incorporated into Central Igbo that is taught in Igbo language classes, students will somehow learn this new words and adapt them into their own dialects and everyday speech. Things like this will even get people in rural areas(including elderly ones and preteens) who are literate in Igbo to become familiar with technological advances with their subsequent terminologies.

Maybe, but with using other words that have been created recently as an example, no one calls university "mahadum". There are examinations and written works in Igbo, yes, but when was the last time your read an Igbo novel or faced a maths/science/agric/non-Igbo-studies examination, or even a test, written in Igbo?

And we have to consider that every word in English isn't automatically translatable into Igbo, and the reverse case. Igbo could use one word to mean several different things in English, and the other way round, and the connotation of things are different.

Let's try new Igbo words for the suggested words above.

Internet. Ubuigwe (Ubigwe)
Satellite. Onwaigwe (Onwigwe, that's, if there isn't already satellite in Igbo)
Impeach, isn't that just blame or charge? Ta ụta (that's, if there isn't already impeach in Igbo)
Website. Ihu/Iru ubigwe.

Yours?

mbatuku2:
What aspects of Efik were preserved in the Americas?

Ekpe was taken to Cuba, at first they spoke a spin off of the Isuama language they called Suama, that died, and the Ekpe (Abakua in Cuba) switched to Efik for their ceremonies.

belltwelve:
@ezeagu,
then let us all contribute to the survival of our language by forming at least one new word. Chetakwa na, if we lose our language we lose a part of our culture.
We can create a free compendium of new Igbo words for prosterity by going to http://igbodefender.com/groups/igbo-and-afro-american-culture/forum/topic/new-igbo-words/

These new words wouldn't stick because Igbo isn't used in the work/professional/academic domain where these words survive. Igbo is an informal language, vernacular, that has no serious education system backing it and no serious national status in any nation. Until there is a move to make Igbo an actual language used in work (formally) and in education, which means teaching children in the five state mathematics, science, argic, home economics, engineering, university courses, and the rest in Igbo.

No, the whole ceremony because I'm suspecting this was one of those cultures that spread around Igboland in the 20th century. (Like August meetings).

I was looking through an old (early 1900s) Igbo dictionary, and I found an Igbo (Onicha) word for tower, crossbow, and hemaphrodite. I wonder how many of these words and their equivalents in other dialects have survived, does anyone know these words in their dialects? Or even other languages?

Are the bridesmaids in Igboland really called "umu ashebi". . .

reaaallllllllyyyyyy. . . . . .??

Again, where did this marriage ceremony (Igba Nkwu Nwanyi) come from?

mbatuku2:
All I can say is that those are very poor translations.

The Igbo word for spider web(onya) could be worked around to get Igbo words for Internet, Webpages, etc. Let's emulate the japanese and israelis who always convert western terminologies into distinct equivalents in their own language.

I think experienced Igbo linguists with vast knowledge of Igbo diction will do a good job, I'm limited in that area for now.

Not always, everything doesn't have to be given an Igbo word, but I understand what you mean. The japanese word for soup is supu, wine is wain and there are hundreds of words they've borrowed from China.

We should be more worried about losing Igbo words which we have already lost thousands in daily speech.

English form: Internet
Igbo form: Interneti

English form: Satellite
Igbo form: Sateliti

English form: Impeachment
Igbo form: Impichimenti

English form: website
Igbo form: webusaitu

Not really new, but okay.

odumchi:
Maka ngen orubeghi? Nda mgbe o ga eru?

Ọ wu ugbua wụrụ mgbe ndi Igbo juchara na ugwu awusa, naa kpa ngwonwo ahia ha, wụ mgbe ndi Igbo gi make-ise moves?

Princek12:
Most Nigerian songs that use our native language use Yoruba language.

Most slangs used outside of Nigeria have a relationship with Yoruba language.

Most foreigners who want to learn or study a Nigerian language choose to study Yoruba. Titi Oyinbo and her colleagues, among others, can bear witness to this.

Yoruba people seem to travel outside of Nigeria more than any other Nigerian tribe (this is based on anecdotal evidence, so don't crucify me).

Anyone who disagrees with me should say so, but please do so civilly.

You're obviously very sheltered in your region, and obviously none of this is backed up so how do we disagree or agree without entering a useless argument?

Some communities speak full/broken Yoruba, unlike most other African languages. The only other language that survived like Yoruba was Efik. How do we judge influence of language?

killayut:
This Thread is old but it just popped up on  my search engine.    Should Nnewi  and Igbos be part of a NIGER DELTA  republic   or  should   Ngwa  and  Igbos  be  part of  Niger Delta  republic ?   The way this would sound to the Igbos  is how   this thread is sounding to the  Ijaws,  KALABARI   is  an Ijaw  ethnic  group  just as NGWA  is an Igbo ethnic  group,  I hope  people  would learn from this,

Can we stop pretending like Kalabari is not the most most Igbotic non-Igbo group in Nigeria? That's like getting angry because some Aro people attended an Ibibio event.

When was this marriage ceremony invented and where did it come from?

stillwater:
Do you know what this material is called?

https://cdn.bellanaija.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/08/Chika-Fagoyinbo-Ikenna-Nwakanma-Traditional-Wedding-Bella-Naija009-600x401.jpg

It's an Akwete copy of Indian Madras called George. The city of Madras is now known as Chennai.

Indian madras.

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There are better things to do with yourself.

Are you guys planning another 40-something pages?

What are they supposed to say?

[quote author=Negro_Ntns link=topic=593484.msg9840411#msg9840411 date=1324945920]our human rights group, OPC.[/quote]Nairaland we hail thee.

Hopefully not, judging from the stupidity most Christian populations exhibit.

Just so we're clear, the developed world still uses thatched roofs and less often mud to build houses.

[center]English

https://i.telegraph.co.uk/multimedia/archive/01359/thatched_cottage_1359054c.jpg

Igbo

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[center]Some mud (hay and bamboo) buildings are actually quite impressive.
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https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/f/fa/Kumasi.png

[img]http://www.arthistory-archaeology.umd.edu/ARTHwebsitedecommissionedNov32008/webresources/courses/ARTH275/FA05/Images/110805images/Cameroon%20palace%20detail.jpg[/img][img]http://www.arthistory-archaeology.umd.edu/ARTHwebsitedecommissionedNov32008/webresources/courses/ARTH275/FA05/Images/110805images/Hausa%20house.jpg[/img]
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Who's for one Nigeria?

Did they start bombing people today? What about the corper's?

Freesia:
Thanks for the link Abagworo,Like someone mentioned above looks like clothes were really worn by royals,chiefs or priests.I'm obsessed with African history before the coming of the Europeans to the Motherland but unfortunately those people to tell us more have been gone  for years,Most of the info we get is based on or during the African revolution.

It depends on what you consider clothes. All of the adults in the link had clothes on, but I guess people don't consider a wrapper or a shawl as clothing, unless it's complemented with trousers, a shirt, or full bodily clothing.

The boy below may have little on, but he still has clothes on. The 'important parts' are still covered by. . . .cloth so he isn't naked (nairaland reaally immature to censor "naked".

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I'm pretty sure there's a lot of Arabic and Mande/Fulani words in Hausa.

[quote author=Okija_juju link=topic=819368.msg9730549#msg9730549 date=1323447627]^^^

Kano people save their flight ticket money and go by horse and cow![/quote]Would those be the same horses and cows that are counted in the census as well?

How can Enugu's air traffic be more than twice that of Kano when there's 70 million people in Kano?

sizzlers:
gang of suspected armed robbers, on Wednesday night, besieged one of the homes of the late General Sani Abacha in the metropolitan area of Kano, shooting the last son of the departed ruler, Alhaji Al-Mustapha Abacha somewhere near his stomach. A police source told Daily Sun that apart from Al-Mustapha, other persons sustained injuries, adding that those injured have been rushed to an undisclosed hospital. Daily Sun was told that the shootout was sequel to the prompt response by Abacha’s bodyguards complimented by the resourcefulness of the police officers from the Nassarawa Police Division, whose office block is a stone -throw from the scene of the gun battle. The incident happened at about 6.30pm at one of the Abacha’s properties, located on Bank Road in Nassarawa area. Members of the Abacha family, especially Mohammed had, from time to time, quartered themselves in the brick-painted building as an alternative to the family house situated on Gidado Road. The five-member gang, it was gathered, came in a grey coloured End-of- Discussion Honda car and quietly made their way into the compound where they accosted Hajia Zainab Abacha, one of the daughters of the late General and demanded for money. It was learnt that Zainab had no immediate cash to dispense with and was in a fix trying to negotiate a way out when things suddenly went out of hand. The source told the Daily Sun that when the robbers took over the big house, they first arrested everybody within sight and seized all their handsets to ensure that none of them could contact the outside world. According to the source, unfortunately for the robbers just when they were certain that everybody was under check, the unexpected happened. They did not realize that not everybody in the building at that moment had been arrested. The source said that Al-Mustapha was actually in the kitchen, eating a light meal when the tragic scene began to unfold in the house. Hiding in the kitchen he secretly put a distress call across to his elder brother, Mohammed, but was caught in the act, a reason he was instantly shot. The source went further to state that Mohammed, on getting the message, quickly alerted their bodyguards as well as called in the police for help, leading to both teams storming the building within minutes. One of the robbers was arrested after he was shot twice in the leg as he made his escape from the troubled spot. The first shot came from the officers from Nassarawa Division while the second shot came from the bodyguards who gallantly defended their principal’s interest. Equally, some guns, were recovered from the robbers as they dropped everything on them and fled for their lives. The End-of- Discussion Honda Car used for the operation had been taken to the Bompai Headquarters of the Police Command. The state Police Commissioner, Mr. Ibrahim K Idris has visited the scene of the crime to make a personal assessment even as it was gathered that the arrested suspect has been cooperating in the investigation. State Police Public Relations Officer, ASP Magaji Majiya confirmed the robbery attack on the Abachas and said that, the police responded quickly and positively, adding that the robbers did not take any property out of the house. He also said that investigation is in progress, even as he assured the people of the Kano State of the readiness of the Police command to secure life and property.

Nna, who is going to read this block of text?

sizzlers:
naija journalist and their essey writting

HAHAHA!

Look at these idiots that did nothing when an Oba was kidnapped.

Abagworo:
A) Africans were purely the same and are still same to me. We were all unclad and lived in mud houses with thatch roof and that is the truth. Going by all the older pictures I've seen only either the noble or elderly wore clothes. The children and common people were stack Unclad or show me any picture displaying other wise.

Why, why, why!?

Freesia:
I would love to see more pre-colonial photos but I guess that would be difficult to come by as there were no cameras

http://ukpuru..com/

Onlytruth:
Whatever happened to Christian brotherhood. 

No such thing as Christian brotherhood, just like there's no such thing as English speaking brotherhood.

[quote author=PROUD-IGBO link=topic=820885.msg9726067#msg9726067 date=1323394607]^^^On the bolded, if the same situation were to crop up today, i suspect Europe and other western nations (now they've matured a bit) will act much differently and 'pitch their tent' on the side of fairness and justice as against their stand in the 60's which was driven mainly by economic considerations, and a desire to protect their colonial creations to maintain spheres of cultural/political influence.

Don't forget at the time, they saw we Africans as pawns to be used mainly for their amusement and benefit.The fact that the eastern region at the time was under attack must have featured very low on their list of priorities.[/quote]I think they'll go with whichever side best suits their interest, like always. Africans are still pawns.