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How long have we been seeing this New Kaduna plans? And when are they starting?

igbo boy:
technically you can mention Anioma without Agbor
A- Aniocha
N- Ndokwa
I - Ika, which i guess u can place these bush people, oh i see is it the bush that made you say they can feed the whole igboland? ok bush= fertile area
O-Oshimili where the great NZeogwu comes from


Infact i will be campaigning for Oshimili state from now on no longer anioma state cos i dont want to share a state with such bush inferiority complex people, tufiakwa. chineke ekwe kwala ihe ojoor. OSHIMILI STATE

There's no difference between the claims of Ika people Oshimili people. The only difference is one is in the water and one is on fertile land.

seanet02:
Ibo shyt shyt shyt ibo shyt shyt shyt

The madness and frustration has set in.

Ngodigha:
Can you stop that silly joke?.

Have you ever stood anywhere west of Onicha?

igbo boy:
mighty gini? Agbor people are bush o, come delta state and see for yourself

You can't mention Anioma without Agbor. How are they bush? You know they are capable of feeding the whole of Igboland?

The amount of people all these negatives kill in the US is probably equivalent to the amount killed in simple road accidents in Nigeria.

igbo boy:
If una want agbor take dem too cos dey are bush too.

Which Agbor is bush? The Agbor village in your town or the mighty Agbor kingdom?

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bashr4:
just let it be ,SE remains the only non tribalist region in  nigeria lets keep it that way.

Exactly.

[center]Her husband just told her she's moving to Aba.

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Okay good, now knock off the "such is life" and replace it with "this is why Nigeria will continue to fail" and everything is fine.

Derailment of what thread. I have absolutely noooooo idea of what you're talking about. I'm only encouraging Odua lands most bright and brainy to see the light and head east.

Yoruba woman in Ibadan:

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After settling and marrying in Alaigbo:

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Yoruba man in his habitat.

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Yoruba man after settling and marrying in Alaigbo.

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Exactly, in a nice stable environment. Cha Ching!!

[center]Old Yoruba carving statue of a wild Yoruba women civilized by an Igbo gentleman.

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[center]Yoruba culture is best witnessed from a safe environment. . . . . the only place that is is Alaigbo

Yoruba wedding in Alaigbo

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[center]The [size=14pt]beautiful Yoruba culture of Alaigbo[/size], come and witness (and invest). Cubans, Brazilians, Colombians invited to see their ancestors homeland.

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When an average Yoruba person comes from the West it's like they've come from a wort torn area into Switzerland. Once the Yoruba man sets eyes on an Igbo woman that they dash 'im the beast inside is calmed and he becomes a civilized Yoruba citizen of Alaigbo, same for when a Yoruba woman and an Igbo man. This is why Yoruba people are chasing Igbo issues up and down nairaland because they've heard through the grapevine. . . . .

Nobody wants Yoruba people going anywhere, in short they're not allowed. When Alaigbo is declared their can be used culture for tourism, 'come and see Yoruba culture in the only stable country it's practiced in'. Igboland will give them some land. Cha-Ching!!!

There are just some articles that do not deserve attention. Obviously this is one of the articles lesser active journalists create to seem like they're working. End of discussion.

, Agbor is a very pompous clan, everyone around them have a sort of inferiority complex to them to point that some communities will introduce themselves to an Agbor person by explaining that they are from the bush, even agbontaen is constantly claiming Agbor even though he is Owa. Igbanke is seen as bush by the Agbor and therefore they are seen as beneath them, there's no need to lie, but the same way the Igbanke decided to be carved out of Asaba would be the same way Ozarra should have requested the same.

What is "Igbos", I thought Enugu was a state?

Did the writer stop his article half way, this story seems "abortive". Is this issue about land again?

Anyway it's tiring hearing from people who have probably never met an Anioma or Ika person, never been to a Anioma or Ika meeting, never been to an Anioma town, never witnessed Anioma culture or probably have never heard an Anioma dialect give comments on what they "know" Ika and Anioma is and what it isn't just because some loud mouth nobody's who call themselves "Ika" have no job's but to write fairytales online.

Let's settle the issue now: Go to an Arochukwu village and ask them what they call Culture and Customs, then go to an Agbor village and ask them what they call Culture and Customs. After that, rest.

PhysicsMHD:
Oza nogogo has not been absorbed.

Oza nogogo is Bini. When I tried to rightfully claim them as Bini (which they are) somebody here fought very hard for them to be denied of who they are based on claims of some imperial lordship over them by a certain kingdom! I'm starting to think that this is motivated more by mineral royalties than common sense.

Somebody is talking about Benin kingdom when I am instead talking about the Bini ethnicity and I think it is a deliberate attempt to mislead. Under any reasonable definition of ethnicity, the oppressed Oza nogogo people are of the Bini stock and not of the Anioma sub-group of the Igbos. This whole claim of them being "Anioma" is absurd. Anioma is an identity created only a few decades back but it did not exist prior to the 20th century and did not even exist at the beginning of the 20th century. This claim simply has no basis. There is no way that they are absorbed when they are clearly Bini.

Why aren't they part of Edo State? Anyway this issue is about Edo migrants that have been absorbed in other communities with some of their names and government left behind.

Since Ugbodu is surrounded by the Igbo-speaking Aniomas, it did not take much time before the Igbo Language started to interfere greatly on the people’s language. Accordingly, Igbo influence steadily and progressively made what has now become permanent inroad and considerable impact on the socio-cultural life as well as linguistic orientation of the Ugbodu people. With this, the Edo influence began to wane, resulting in the adoption of Igbo names in preference to Edo names. Thus from the middle of the 19th century, the general shift was from Edo to Igbo names. This can be seen in the names of Olozas, who ruled between the middle of the 19th century and late 20th century such as Dike, Ochei, Ezenweani and Isinyemeze.

Another factor that also contributed to the decline of Olukumi, according to findings, is that there was a time in the past when an understanding of the Edo or Igbo language, was considered as a status symbol. According to an elder in the town, “An Oluku mi who spoke the two languages then was considered superior to others because it meant that he had travelled wide. This was the inferiority complex our people unwittingly created for themselves which we are trying to correct now.”

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[quote author=Negro_Ntns link=topic=458875.msg8764284#msg8764284 date=1311287470]You are falsifying and rewriting historical accounts and fabricating conjectures to manufacture a Igbo foothold in an aboriginal land that was previously void of Igbo or Nri or Aro presence until the arrival of European missionary which recruited Igbo as its agent into the remote jungle where the terrain and weather were adverse to their health and posed risk to life.[/quote]Who are aboriginal people of Ika land?

[quote author=Negro_Ntns link=topic=458875.msg8764284#msg8764284 date=1311287470]Lukumi is the language of the Ugbodu and its sister towns and their ethnicity is Yoruba.[/quote]Their ethnicity is no longer Yoruba and never will be ever again. Their Yoruba past is evident in some things, but they have been absorbed just like the Edo migrants have. Something people will have to get over.

It mustn't have been a community made up of the same substance as the Benin migrants were (War generals) for their voice to be so tiny in Anioma, their language is even considered extinct.

[quote author=ekt_bear link=topic=488326.msg8763971#msg8763971 date=1311283138]*shrug*

Somebody was going to have to pay. Wars don't come cheap.[/quote]Uhhm, in a so-called civil war everybody has to pay, in a so called 'nation' there's no such thing as a side that has to pay for a war that it did not start. The idea that "somebody was going to have to pay" to justify taking fellow citizens money from a certain side doesn't work.

[size=5pt](Not like anybody's crying about anything in the past, I doubt being the least impoverished region is woe-worthy)[/size]

[quote author=tpia@ link=topic=458875.msg8763979#msg8763979 date=1311283224]the punitive attack would have been before the british one.

i cant remember what it was supposed to be about but i think there was a rebellion of some sort.[/quote]There's always been some sort of tension between Benin and Agbor especially as the chief state of the Ika. The rebellion wouldn't have led to Benin attacking communities that have been founded and trained by it's own former war generals I don't think.

I believe that Ika and any other clan group in what is now called Anioma were too busy guarding their own to be sending their warriors to go and fight for Benin. Whatever 'Anioma' soldiers there were in the Benin army were no longer Anioma but assimilated Benin citizens. Also there are other non-Igbo clans that could be called to fight for Benin.