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Eko Ile:
You are not whining, but you wasted so much time typing this rubbis and worthless epistle,

Cry me a freeking river,

suxs to be you, loser

You can't come up with anything better than playground insults?

[quote author=Ileke-IdI link=topic=654768.msg8211130#msg8211130 date=1303870197]Keep reflecting your feelings on other people.
Aren't you the one that hops on any Yoruba thread to spew garbage?

In my Yoruba accent: I understand. I'd be envious of me too if I were you

So I guess you didnt have enough cash to "persuade" people to vote for Dora. Thought you'll make sure Ngige loses. Empty garawa.

Up Ngige![/quote]What is "Up Ngige" supposed to do? Will it make 80% of Onicha Yoruba?

Eko Ile:
Shut your mouth.

These clowns sure know how to play victim I swear. lmao


Every time we post something about Fashola doing this or commissioning that, you negative fools run in to spew your tribal and negative trash.

Shove that rubbish and crocodile tears where you got it from, losers

Your games are boring, the second post on this useless thread mentioned Igbo people and you supported whatever that billy goat said, now you want to play the 'Igbo are crying' game. The only person that keeps wining is you. I don't know which Igbo person kicked you in the privates that makes every second thread of yours either a wining rant or a indirect taunt at Igbo people, isn't it sad that your entire existence on nairaland is to impress Igbo people? Some Igbo people here don't even go on about Igbo issues as much as you do, but you seemed to have earned a masters. What about a challenge? Stop demonstrating stupidity and inferiority thinking and try to not mention Igbo issues.

[quote author=Ileke-IdI link=topic=654768.msg8211040#msg8211040 date=1303867653]I left the task for you.
We know how Igbo men love acting like girls You're prolly raising your left and squealing after each pound, enjoy

You strong affinity for anything Yoruba will give you heart attack one of these days, my yam pounder  [/quote]Hmm, yet the Yoruba call the Igbo 'ajokuta ma mumi'.

[quote author=Ileke-IdI link=topic=654768.msg8211043#msg8211043 date=1303867764]It's understandable to be envious of anything Yoruba. . . . [/quote]I just come on these threads to retaliate, I couldn't care any less to create a thread bashing anybody.

[quote author=Ileke-IdI link=topic=654768.msg8211014#msg8211014 date=1303867137]JustCash, a "proud Igbo man", still battling with his inferiority complex when it comes to the Yoruba states

Up Ngige![/quote]If you've run out of ideas on nairaland, then it's better you go and find a kitchen to pound yam.

If you can't do your thing without calling other people names, then it just shows how much you [size=18pt]envy[/size] them. Is it the 45% of Lagos that's paining you like this because some of you keep bringing it up and try to bash it from different angles. When did the Igbo say they will not vote for Governor Fashola? The cheap attempts at bashing Igbo people only shows how little you people are and it gives Governor Fashola a bad image.

sbeezy8:
Your issue is that you're arguing about history you don't kno binis nupes hausas baribas fulas living in yoruba cities years ago began turning into yoruba n calling themselves yoruba. The same way nupes yorubas some fula igalla also turned into edos binis afenmais , what do you nor understand

That's not what you wrote, you wrote that the Bini and Nupe started calling themselves Yoruba overtime without specifying that you're talking about immigrants. Anybody can assimilate immigrants, but the point here is assimilating people in their own homelands which isn't happening.

sbeezy8:
yoruba is culture and he doesnt speak fula everyone knows that.

FEW CAN ACTUALLY SPEAK FULA not even the hausa-fulani mixed one can speak fulfude, many emirs cant also its not only him.

didnt binis start calling themselves yoruba  over time? didnt nupe start to call themselves yoruba?

How does everyone know he doesn't speak Fulani? I don't know about Nupe, but when did Bini ever call themselves 'Yoruba'? Anyway, back to the point, speaking Yoruba doesn't make you Yoruba.

sbeezy8:
the emir of ilorin speaks yoruba is/was addressed by his yoruba name, his kids have yoruba names, whole family are yorubas or fula turned into yoruba. people in kwara they call him oba also.

people dont think of him as a fulani, just as the oba of lagos is not considered a bini.  that said hes an emir, there are countless other people who think they are yoruba and just dont know there family history well, theres nothing fulani have assimilated people into. no one has fula names, no one speaks fula language, and theres no fula culture beside islam and cows. Islam is a religion shared by different ethnicities. so thats not really fula anyway

so what is so fulani about someone, who cant speak fula, doesnt have a fula name, and is not seen as a fula by the people around him?

The Emir is part of the Caliphate. The man is among the rest of the Fulani Sultans and Emirs, and that shows that the Fulani have power over Ilorin through him. Ilorin through him is under the Fulani, that is assimilated. Alhaji Ibrahim Kolapo Sulu Gambari, is this not the Emir of Illorin's name? And how do you know he doesn't speak Fulani? I don't believe that. An Emir that socialises with other Fulani elites?

[quote author=ekt_bear link=topic=654079.msg8209967#msg8209967 date=1303854577]No, I'm Nigerian American. But the point is, if I settle down here longterm, my desdendants will view themselves primarily as American. . . their connection to Nigeria will diminish over time.[/quote]The other groups in Kwara are not settling in other peoples lands. Their culture is there and there's no need for their children to suddenly call themselves Yoruba, which they are not and which the Kwara Yoruba are not, just because of the Yoruba language. Nigeria's official language is English, nobody in Nigeria is gradually turning English.

kristonium:
Nigeria is a state made up of so many nations! will u be willing to save Nigeria?

Yes, but there has to be something there to show me that I should save it. Right now, I don't see the point for it.

[quote author=ekt_bear link=topic=654079.msg8209740#msg8209740 date=1303851960]^-- Perhaps I'm misunderstanding your point. But if it is about immigration, then it supports my argument.[/quote]So you're English?

[quote author=ekt_bear link=topic=654079.msg8209669#msg8209669 date=1303851168]Hrm, I'm not sure I agree. Speaking another culture's language is the first step in this process.[/quote]What language are you speaking? What's Nigeria's official language?

kristonium:
Will no one save Nigeria?

Is there no one whose love for Nigeria transcends love of tribe or personal safety?

Who is willing to come forward and seek others like himself to nurse this sick nation?

If there be a man,let him come forward.

Today, for God's sake!"

A tribe is another word for a nation. The English are a tribe descended from the Anglo Saxon tribe, the Germans are a tribe, the Japanese are from the Ainu tribe. Nigeria is not a tribe, Nigeria is not a nation.

[quote author=tpia@ link=topic=654079.msg8209612#msg8209612 date=1303850636]actually, they're not.

speaking yoruba doesnt mean they're becoming yoruba. It's just a lingua franca.

i think you're confusing the situation with the ijaw/igbo one.

it's not the same.[/quote]The Igbo are not assimilating the Ijaw. The Ijaw are not picking up Igbo culture.

[quote author=tpia@ link=topic=654079.msg8209620#msg8209620 date=1303850685]you dont get it.[/quote]They assimilate people through their paternal ancestry.

[quote author=ekt_bear link=topic=654079.msg8209601#msg8209601 date=1303850479]Heh. I'm saying, subdividing it will awaken Borgu, Nupe ethnolinguistic movements. Currently, they are being slowly absorbed over time into the dominant culture of the state. For selfish reasons, I'd like to see this continue 

Like, it is good for Yorubaland for Kwara to remain one (in my opinion), bad if it is partitioned.[/quote]Speaking a language does not mean you are becoming part of that culture. Yoruba is probably used for trade as other language are used for the same in different cultures in Africa. Kwara is also one of the places that will cause a problem if the North and South decide to divide.

sbeezy8:
Fulani have [b]never [/b]assimilated non fulani people into fula culture or hausa, they only taken on their hosts culture, language, dress  etc but maintain fulani origin only due to islam- which means nothing compared to yoruba identity.

if anything fulani are going extinct faster than any tribe.

even the non yorubas in kwara and southern niger state speak yoruba and carry yoruba names.

There's an Emir of Illorin and the Fulani have never assimilated anybody? The Fulani ancestry from the male is what the Fulani's use to identify themselves, like the Arab's in Northern Sudan. The Fulani may have taken up other people cultures, but it does not mean they do not identify as Fulani. We all saw how Mr. Bakare was desperately trying to disassociate himself from Kwara.

sbeezy8:
all kwara speak yoruba what are you talking about? even non yoruba speak yoruba because that what the majority of the people speak.

fulani speak yoruba in kwara, nupe speak yoruba in kwara, bariba speak yoruba in kwara. yoruba is the common language.

a nupe man cant speak fula, bariba cannot speak nupe, fula cannot speak braiba - but they all can speak yoruba.

Not all Kwara people speak Yoruba natively. There examples of a language being used to trade all over Africa, but it does not always indicate identity. Unless Nupe Niger will also become Yoruba. Even Kwara people do not claim any of these people as Yoruba.

ChinenyeN:
Why not? Why must we act hypocritically with "one dictionary" as if all our various lects don't matter?

We must all learn Onicha by force. I like the diversity, I wish there will be at least one person each to all of these languages who will create a dictionary. At least if, some of them are lost, they will be still there in the dictionary. Talking about that, does anybody know of any Igbo languages that have been lost, or are nearly lost?

Speaking Yoruba doesn't mean they are full culturally Yoruba. Speak to a Kwara person. Plus not all of Kwara speaks Yoruba.

Heeeey, Igbo dictionaries will reach four thousand versions.

Justcash:
And what gave you the impression that the West will agree to split with the East and especially the South after the division has been ensured? Is it really going to be that easy? You sure know that the West will want to hold onto a southern unity?
Well, I prefer a Southern country than Nigeria as it is now. Still the current Nigerian Political trend will  exist in a Southern Nigerian country, though in a more subtle way.

The funny thing is that the south west may be the first to call for the Southern Nigeria to break up again. The only problem I see with the breaking up of Southern Nigeria is with the boundaries, where will the Edo and other mid-western people go? The Niger Delta, if the east breaks up, the Niger Delta will want to take Port Harcourt, and the Igbo may want to take up more coast. And then the last problem is with the world community, the double split will scare people away, especially investors, as they will see this as a very unstable area.

Hausa is spreading faster than anything around it. I don't know if the Nupe are picking it though, so the idea of Kwara becoming fully culturally Yoruba, with the Fulani present, is questionable. The Fulani and Hausa have also had more experience at assimilating people.

Justcash:
Who told you the SW and SE cannot go to the  UN and get their blessing? Why do you think so? Does it take the presentation of a virgin mosquito that can only be found around the north for them to agree? So going to the UN with enough evidence of constant strife , retrogressiveness and disunity in Nigeria is not enough reason to dismember the country for the progress of its constituent nations? So, if the SS, SE and SW goes to the UN seeking for their own countries they will be rejected because of the North? Even when the North keeps slaughtering them for nothing? You gat to be joking. We don't even need to go to the UN, they will come to us when the time comes. By the time oil prices hit $300 P/B, and they will come to us.

I think most are talking about creating a Southern Nigeria first, then in this cooler climate the different fractions can decide if they want to further split, this way the UN will jump to the call for the north and south to be divided because they are already aware of all the tension and they will immediately think that this is the Islam/Christian divide they've seen in South Sudan, so they'd be quicker to work because they wouldn't want another war on their hands. When the two countries are created, the different southern groups can agree to split and recognise each other instead of relying on the UN.

Climate.

komando77:
Hmmm, the elephant in the room remains this: if Lagos is a totaly Yoruba place, why was it left out of Oodua Group? And let nobody repeat that nonsense about Lag being the FCT. That is a plane fallacy, and we all know it.

Come, komando77, gini gbasa kwara gi na okwu Lagos na ndi Yoruba?

[quote author=ekt_bear link=topic=654079.msg8202507#msg8202507 date=1303755269]Most of Rivers state sef is not Igbo. It is historically Ijaw. But was stolen from them by Igbo migrants

PHC for example is Ijawland[/quote]You probably don't even know the difference between Ijaw and Igbo.

See royal correspondent "I knew".

Cadaver:
must everytin on nl be turned into a tribal war? a nigerian gets invited to the royal wedding and its become anoda yoruba-ibo civil war on nl? nawaoh!

Why do you think this was posted in the Politics section?  hahaha

SEE THROUGH.

I was beginning to think the word 'Owe Igbo' didn't exist, that's until omonuan brought everyone back to reality.

Many people think Nigeria is a game. Children.