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geeez: I remember how badly Tinubu was bashed following his comments

How come we see with zoom lenses while they are myopic?

How come its takes them months and years to comprehend?

Isn't it easy to see why we are light years ahead?

If you want to do this properly, start with the NASS giving the conference a constitutional backing

Next you have a website where Nigerians can contribute while the consultations go on

Then you subject the resolutions to a referendum

Anything outside that is a charade

Thanks Tinubu

superstar1: when we were telling them before now, they said yorubas are afraid of disintegration, that is the reason why we did not want to support the National time wasting Discussion. So, they are just realising what we were saying now. A man with foresight, sees miles ahead.

If the constitutional is not amended to accommodate referendum and Sovereign national Conference, we are just going to waste our time and national resources at the jamboree.

So you'd rather sit on your hand and plan nothing and stay stagnant (unless the Igbo in this article is actually a Yoruba subgroup of Tinubu) than try and seize a moment where you may be able to negotiate the terms with which to operate like Ohaneze is doing here? If you (and by you, I mean Tinubu) possess some type of foresight then what date are you planning a sovereign national conference? What is this massive progress that you guys are talking about?

History just keeps repeating it self.

What do you mean by 'Umuahia version of "Ibo"'?

[quote author=«—M®×L¹MPºPº ™]If Akwa ibomites and Cross Riverians are now south easterners.


i wonder what Abians and Imolites wld be [/quote]It's called geography.

[quote author=ROCK-J]Hausa is very easy to learn. The hardest is the Igbo language. In igbo language one word can have 4 different meanings due to d tone. Its so hard that even the igbo's add a lot of English when they speak to make it easier.[/quote]That's not the reason English is added a lot. The reason is Westernisation and the impact of English as language of instruction and education.

RandomAfricanAm: In that case what occurs on those days (I.E market day, rest day, etc) and what is the literal translation of those days?

The days are named after spirits. I don't know the meaning of those days (although I can guess, but I don't want to). The significance of the days vary depending on the community, although a village usually chooses one of those days as its market day. In Igbo culture, people are not buried on a specific day, as well as other rites.

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"The entrance to a “chiefs” compound, G.T Basen, 20th century"

Wasn't it more like the wars were after the abolition, and then Niger Coast Company, and then amalgamation.

[quote author=tpia@]The real amalgamation began previously with the abolition of the slave trade.[/quote]What do you mean?

Nobody is celebrating, only lining up to gawp at their overlords. The people look helpless and defeated (because barely a decade before they were all fighting against a Nigeria altogether) and the photo is very similar to other photos of countries under surrender.

Look at Japan under surrender:

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Christy G: u kno nothing about how kings are selected in yoruba.when a kings dies especially in dat akure area,d first daughter who step in as adele for some time before a new oba is selected.d king might be selected from another royal family or still stay in d same family(in some situations)when d new oba is selected,she leaves that position and goes back to her normal day life.her children are not in any position to become any oba.it doesnt happen day way

So she isn't a full Oba then? Can females be Oba in Akure at all then and if so can she be picked? Because she was quoted as if she is is reigning currently as an Oba.

padeolu: its obvious you don't know how things are done in yorubaland. For sanity sake, drop the issue. Its better you desist from ur baseless argument and learn.

Okay, If I don't know, why don't you explain. Why can't the issue of the Oba who is already wearing the Oba's full regalia, be the Oba?

Because you know I'm dropping anything for you, I hope you know?

[quote author=ndu_chucks]Transcendental of her feminine gender? Try to explain what this means in simple terms if you are able. This idea of cross dressing as a cultural phenomenon is, to say the least, eye opening and borders on what many Yoruba people would classify as an abomination.

Is this practice limited to Akure or this type of Dan Daudu (cross dressing) attire common in Yoruba land?[/quote]You people should just STOP. The followers of Sango tie rapper and braid their hair and call themselves the wives of Sango and you guys are here surprised at common knowledge: gender is fluid in many West African traditional societies and religions. Sango himself was said to have adopted his wife's braided hairstyle. [[url=books.google.com/books?id=yCJ71rRnzhgC&pg=PA65&dq="worn+by+Sango+priests+convey+the+idea+of"&hl=en&sa=X&ei=0-3CUvH0OYKx0QWk8oHYDQ&ved=0CDIQ6AEwAA#v=onepage&q=%22worn%20by%20Sango%20priests%20convey%20the%20idea%20of%22&f=false]Link[/url]] [[url=books.google.com/books?id=X3JSjO6_UvIC&pg=PA118&dq="His+hair+was+in+braids,+and+he+told+me+that+priests+of+Oya,+just+like+Sango+"&hl=en&sa=X&ei=Ou7CUvCKIoqM0AX6v4CYDg&ved=0CDQQ6AEwAA#v=onepage&q=%22His%20hair%20was%20in%20braids%2C%20and%20he%20told%20me%20that%20priests%20of%20Oya%2C%20just%20like%20Sango%20%22&f=false]Link[/url]]

Christy G: dere is nothing to be silly about,dat is d way it is.u do know she is not an oba.she is adele.when a new king is selected,she is out of dere.if d royal crown movews back to her family,she will not be considered.

As I said before, don't be silly. She's the last Oba's first child and has been instated which means king makers back her. Who's going to take the crown from the Oba's first issue? Stop.

ak47mann: Yhe children can be brought up yoruba in some extent but their father will make sure that igbo culture sink inside them....

Like the Igbo men sink their culture into their kids in Lagos? The people of Akure have nothing to worry about politically.

padeolu: By birth, she's fully yoruba and as such entitled to be a regent. None of her "Dike" children is entitled to the throne though.

Don't be silly.

gbosaa: If it happened over 50 years ago when there was little education and civilisation,it sure can happen again now..Enugu is detribalised.Go to Owerri road Asata,richard street behind ogui rd,oba street in ogui..Hausas and fulanis have been living there for more than 40years and there are all happy.

Yes, most people didn't have Western education, (most people today in Nigeria don't have proper Western education), but in no way were they uncivilised.

[quote author=ndu_chucks]That was over 50 years ago. I am talking about modern day Nigeria here. We need to see this kind of gesture in the SE of today, start by giving us an Obi or real Eze of the fulani extraction. Be bold and make it happen today.[/quote]Well the fact that he was the first mayor is significant because it shows that the people in south eastern Nigeria are generally willing to share government. You cannot show me an equivalent of that of any time and anywhere else in Nigeria, is the point. During the war many of the more established non-Igbo communities fled and dissolved and never came back which is why there aren't many viable non-Igbo candidates (unless you can show me people who ran) in the overwhelming Igbo states.

ak47mann: Her name Mrs Dike a Princess in Akure. Her Children will now become Prince even though they are Igbo.

Even though their father may be Igbo, I believe they may be brought up Yoruba. And I'm not sure if she's the first Oba.

[quote author=ndu_chucks]This is the way things should be, we already have a Youruba lady representing a Northern state in the senate, now we have a potential Igbo Oba in the SW. We need similar results in the SE as well, a Fulani Eze or Obi would indicate political maturity.

Here's a phoograph of Princess Adetutu Adesida- Dike, the first daughter of the late traditional ruler of Akureland, who was installed as the new regent in Akure. Are women allowed to wear Babanriga in Akure?[/quote]Enugu's first mayor was a Fulani, and Azikiwe tried to be One Nigeria with his whole Western Nigeria political campaign.

KIRIJI: Is it suffice to say that Lagos is under benin control because the ruling houses of: Eshilokun, Adele-Ajosun, and Akitoye are all descendants of Ologun kutere, the daughter of Ado, a benin prince? Can we also say that Lagos is subjugated by the benins because the Eletu odibo's, Obanikoro's and other king makers in Lagos are descendants of Benin chiefs. CERTAINLY NOT!

The comparison doesn't show us anything, and for several reasons:

1. The Benin kingdom is far less powerful and influential than the high seat of Sokoto.
2. The Benin kingdom is no longer militaristic and aggressive, unlike elements of the Fulani militias that have terrorised Nigeria recently.
3. The Lagos Benin connection is closer because of culture, and the history is also very old so the families have been assimilated.
4. The politics of both relationships are very different, in present day Nigeria where there exists a dangerous extremist Islamic threat to national security and who are funded by the unknown, and where we have dagger-wielding Fulani farmers decimating communities because of one cow, having a stronghold for a kingdom who are suspected to be even close to these threats in your home is not ideal.

Akinmail: OYO state's land mass = the whole SE's land mass.


No fighting o. Just stating facts.

Democratic Republic of Congo = 5 times the size of Germany.

Irrelevant information.

This is why when I talk about south eastern Nigeria and mention Cross River, some directionless people will tell me that Cross River isn't physically in the southeastern corner of Nigeria and that it's actually in the "South South", a completely redundant and illogical term that's probably only used in Nigeria.

aManFromMars: Actually it does. I'm Igbo and have been scouring the web for information on Odinani/Omenala. The resources I've found have been few and far between and I haven't found any practitioners on this board. I was hoping you are one.

Anyways, guess you're not, following your thread sha

Oh, I thought otherwise of your intensions. Anyway, this thread has gone to shit now because of the Righteous Christians of Nigeria™, so maybe another thread.

Well if you call is "self servicing" then that's surely something everybody should be doing, servicing themselves no?

It doesn't matter. Got any posts for us?

Post any images (preferably recent) and recent stories related to non-Judaic indigenous relgions in Nigeria. Any sort of post will do from festivals to rights of the non-Judaic religious.