₦airaland Forum

Aksonman:
In spite of efforts by camera men to zoom in on crowd very close to the podium, a birds eye view showed that Governor Amaechi after spending billions to organise this rally could not muster the type of crowd APC desired.

When Buhari mounted the podium, people began to leave the stadium in droves, even Buhari in his speech acknowledged that he had to round up because people were leaving the stadium. Those in doubt please ask for the transcript of Buhari's speech-dis one no be propaganda, it happened.

Is this a sign that APC has lost Rivers state?

See Bird's Eye view of podium while Buhari was still speaking.

Why do some of you so much addicted to lies? I watched the rally live on channels TV and it was like any normal Nigeria political rally. The stadium was packed with people. Whether they are supporters or just curious observers remain to be seen.

But taking a picture of when the rally was well over and the dignitaries has long gone and channel tv was winding down is not only laughable but silly because that is an abject lies.
Am an eye witness on this one.

berem:
Yes it is true. Amaechi just said it now in the ongoing rally at rivers state.

I watched the rally, although I tuned in after his speech, I must have missed it.

How do you know that this is even true?
We are in the season of lies and propaganda. Too early to judge until it confirmed through a reliable source, until then, it's APC nairaland propaganda

Billyonaire:
I actually pray that APC should carry out their threat. Finally, a great reason for everyone to answer his father's name.

I thought that Oyegun is from? Not Zamfara.

barcanista:
I don't agree with this Sir with all due respect. Any society that disregards its court is doom bound. The job of the court is not to prosecute, it only pass judgement when cases are brought before it based on evidence presented. The Ekiti, IGP Abba and Obj's cases I think they all are in court. The court have procedures and its judgement can be challenged by a higher court. The Judge will only pass judgement base on what is presented by the litigant and defendant. In 2010 defunct AC got her mandate in Osun and Ekiti through the court, same with Oshiomole (2008) and Mimiko of ondo. It is unfair to disregard the court and expect a civil society.

You forgot that, there seems to be an unwritten law in Nigeria that presidential elections are upturnable. If not, 2003/07 would have been upturned or cancelled.
They don't such problems with the governorship or the legislature.

gratiaeo:
Buhari is desperate for power but this certificate saga has really slowed him and his desperate supporters a bit down

Not slow enough stopping him storming Akwa Ibom and Rivers State today. Complacency might be Jonathan campaign undoing, pinning their hope on the certificate propaganda knock on effects.
But how many of the millions of voters especially in the interiors knew anything about certificate saga?

The problem for Jonathan is that there are more other distracting problems, like the economy.
Price of crude fall below $52 this morning. And that is even the benchmark Brent crude.

gratiaeo:
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Lol...

He might, desperate accusations result into desperate measures. If you leave him alone to practice his religion, he will have no business going to a church.
If you go to church, you might as well eat whatever they eat in their church.
Have you forgotten Jonathan breaking fast with some Islamic clerics?
If you are in Rome.....
GEJ till Buhari become a Christian, wasn't it what your slogan is? He is now!!
Wait till they make him a Bishop!

Collynzo9:
Who deported Ghanaians in the famous Ghana must go episode of 1983?
Was it Buhari or Shagari?

Go and read this. Hopefully it will answer your questions.
https://books.google.co.uk/books?id=_sDeDWCnnRAC&pg=PA106&lpg=PA104&ots=zF7ZoNKTbp&focus=viewport&dq=shagari+deported+ghanaians&output=html_text

jmaine:
So you liken a billboard in a foreign soil to Obama [b]major foreign policy speech in Germany . . . Na wao !!!

So your christened foreign policy speech carries less weight than a mere billboard?

kelvin100:
Do you believe in the rule of law or not?
If you don't, you should find your way to Afghanistan immediately.
If you do, what are the constitutional requirements for the office of the president?

You people are pathetic, and you will be the one wondering why Malaysia and South Korea overtook Nigeria in development.

It's because illiterates like Buhari ran this country to the ground!

What do you understand rule of law to mean? Not the literal wording of phrase.

Everfrank:
If a trained zoo keeper is now our president then certificate is useless. Can President Jonathan prove that as a trained zoo keeper if he has ever worked in a zoo, seen a live rhinoceros, ever shake the hand of a gorilla or if he has raised a goat, a chicken or produced an egg? That's what he is supposed to be doing as that's his training and calling. Otherwise you people should shut up.
Buhari all the way

Zoology has nothing to do with animals captivity. What you should ask is: If anyone has seen or read Jonathan's PHD thesis?

iffydave:
What if he was a dropout ??

What if, is not an acceptable phrase in any legal framework. Ask any law person.

tit:
is this his certificate?

is anybody doubting he went to US War College?
He should submit his MSc to INEC.
Simple.

What are you awarded after going through a prestigious U.S war college? McDonald fries?
What does certificate means again?
How does one gets a higher without having a level of certificate?
Like I had always said, this issue of Buhari certificate is a mirror of Azikiwe has no income tax in 1979.
They were both driven by bigotry and man's ability to use every ounce in his system to destroy what is not his.
Those trying hard to disprove it are wasting their time because if give them what they are asking for, they will turn around and ask you for another thing.
It's is trying to convince most bigoted Nigerian politicians who hate Ndigbo that an average Igbo do not love money more than his mother. Some lies and sentiment that they were fed from birth.

Southerners has the same embedded stereotypical attitude that most northerners are illiterate including those that even went to school. Thatc every of their academic achievement was as a result of quota system.
They grew up being fed those stereotypes that words like "mallam" is some how a derogatory, when it isn't.

berem:
Female soldiers? Lord Jesus!

They are busy chasing certificate.

masterpower:
i am tired of these irresponsible e-diots shouting "change".
Changing from christianity to islam right?

People from redeem will be the first to cry when the islamization process will commence. Adeboye sold the church for material gains.

What is this new coined word"Islamazation"? How does it work?

BonaVIta:
Just wish APC can correct their mistake and change Buhari who is making the party look unserious.

APC is not the only opposition to PDP, there are at least nine other candidates. Most are young, some has some truck loads of certificate to fill the Lagos lagoon if that was the bottleneck.

Sylva for senate? don't make me laugh.
He was busy build amphitheater when he was in power. Anyway, if Alamesiegha of all people can run for an office, anyone can run.

Omila007:
The secondary school he attended is still with us, most of his class mates are still around. That is why all these do not make any sense.

Who is us? And what school is that .
His biography happens to always omit that part of his life before his military career.
and I am saying that his military career is void without the story leading up to it

Its called Barewa college, also known or called Katsina government college. In fact a nephew of mine did his youth service their in 1989. In this day and age, why you should be asking such a question is beyond me. Do some research, that what intelligent people do, if you really interested in the truth and truth only.

rozayx5:
leave Eziachi , someone that compared ruling Nigeria to running his village is good enough to be an illiterates follower, BUhari followers are illiterates, the very few smart ones and slipping out one by one cause of this scandal, even barcanista their oga is finding it extremely hard to defend

When you decide to leave politics to the politicians, you will see things differently.

Omila007:
Mr Eziachi, please let get this right, I care less about APC and PDP much like you.

Good to know.

Now buhari in his affidavit referred inec to Nigeria Military. Let get this clear, no particular credential or certificate was specified.

Have you seen Buhari's so called affidavit? Has anyone seen it except INEC who are the recipient? Has INEC raised any issue? Not that I know of.
So I don't know what he submitted, unless you do and INEC has not raised any objection so far, so whats the fuss? Tell me.

The Military will only have records of training they sent buhari on much like every other company or employer does no doubt. The question now is what qualification did buhari posses that gained him entry into the military?

Good question. What is army training? Isn't it part of education? Most of this training was in the U.S and the world most respected Sandhurst in England. They all admitted and graduated him, all being blindfolded? Does it make sense to you.
The secondary school he attended is still with us, most of his class mates are still around. That is why all these do not make any sense.

The military have also said that they can only posses photocopies of credentials submitted to them.

Practically if I lie or forge my way into an organization , work and retire after 50yrs, I would still face criminal charges if discovered later in future.

So if they have got any sort of copy, so whats the whole fuss all about then?
Not that it doesn't exist, just the source?
Does it make sense again. You are mixing the whole thing with emotion as no one even the PDP and INEC has mentioned that he lied.
And you and I knew how Nigerian forces serves only those in power that can sack them, if not, army has no legal right to be discussing such an issue but will tow the line INEC towed that they will not discuss individual specifics and if they have to they know who to talk to.

codedguy1:
We know Buhari joined the NA and attended the training college which was later changed to NDA.

The question is how did he enter the NA?
What qualifications did he present before he was accepted into the NA?

Good question!
Isn't that why army would had been the best source of verification
You guys will kill me.

brownlord:
He directed his employer to the institution that awarded the certificate and not another employer, are asking Guinness to go verify your credentials from First bank? is that what you implying?

Of course Guinness can call First Bank, its called referencing. Its even more authentic that calling your school as far as the Nigeria corrupt society is concern.
All our employees, I got everything about them with their own authorization from their previous employers including their qualifications. Its done everyday as we speak. What is the school no longer exist, like my old missionary primary school, what then?

brownlord:
Oh well you know i'm among those demanding for this certificate, not because i need it to vote buhari as you already know i'm not voting Jonathan nor Buhari, but to prove how honest and incorruptible buhari is.

Now tell Buhari to tell Nigerian's the school he went to, If the military are frustrating his effort as you and his paid worshipers are making us believe, WAEC can issue result or statement of result, This is what we need.

Why is this a big issue berem?

He went to Barewa College. Every elite in the north went there in the 50s and 60s. You can now go to their website, get their number, call the school, make an appointment and let hear what you find out. Next question?

presido1:
Here you go again, is the military the school that awarded him the certificate? it just like you referring your new employer to go and verify your certificate from the your old employer. Does that make sense to you?

Yes the military do award certificate all over the world. How you don't know that by now. What do you think they give you after you finish your course in Jaji? A bottle of Gin and Tonic?

PointB:
Cool. Then let him present whatever certificate is required of him so that Nigerians can move to discussing more salient election issue. Why is it taking him so long to shed the toga of 'semi-illiterate' hanging on his neck? In whose interest is he delaying on this matter?

Gosh! He has, it called affidavit.
That was what the law required him to do under the circumstances and thats exactly what Sambo did too because he said that his own certificate was consumed by fire.
No matter how much semi or total illiterate you call him, there is a 50-50 chance he will be you head of state next month.
Moaning on the internet, won't make any change, rather it might energize northerners who are listening and reading all of you calling one of their elite son an illiterate irrespective of their party affiliation.
Can Jonathan still win? Of course he can but you guys are not helping him.

mazzi:
then help ur demi-god with only one thing to do to get his cert.

He is not qualified to be my demi god. I already had one- my late parents.
If Buhari certificate is your cure for Ebola, do something about it and stop moaning on the internet, while he is busy campaigning tomorrow at your backyard.

PointB:
I never collected my SSCE certificate; my first degree certificate still reside with the university. My employer are satisfied with the statement of results I provide and have done necessary verification. However you and I are not running for political office. If we are and the system requires we must present our certificates, then it become incumbent on us to do the needful.

So what is the difference between what you did with your employers and what was purported that Buhari had done with INEC?
You used your statement of result which were acceptable to you employers and he used affidavit acceptable to INEC.
You must have directed them where to verify your qualification and he directed INEC to the military to verify.

Whether its a job selling akara or a job being president, doesn't make any difference. Running for office is like looking for a job and the election is the interview, vote/winning meant, you got the job.

If the law said that affidavit is not acceptable, verification not acceptable, he has no chance than he cannot run, but he has done what the law required of him and that is why those that matters (INEC) are not getting involve.
That is why PDP are not taking him to court yet. Use your tongue to count your teeth. There is difference between emotion and law. You are being carried away by emotion because Buhari is not on the list of your Christmas card.

If you think the certificate issue is not a problem, why then is the APC issuing discombobulated statement here and there to that effect? Why do you think Nigeria are shouting from the rooftop asking for it? Or perhaps you are right, Buhari doesn't give a damn about us asking for his certificate, and you think he's going to give a hoot about anything we say if he inadvertently wins?

APC are fighting because your throwing some mud on their beauty queen. Political fight is like a beauty contest, if the PR for Miss Ghana started saying all over the media that Miss Nigeria has some smelling stuff under herself, what do you expect the PR for Miss Nigeria to to? Fold his arm hoping that it won't affect the outcome. He won't give a hoof whatever you are saying because for four years, now, you have said worse than certificate. In Igbo, we said when a king kept shouting hoax about his fictional lion that is coming, the day the real lion will come, everyone will ignore him thinking, it's one of his wolf cries and the lion will eat him.

Pa Eziachi, if you must come to equity, please come with clean hands! Don't trade your age and integrity for those who cares not!

Don't blackmail me with your age. Everyone is equal here as long as you are able to form an opinion. I respect every opinion, even when we sharply differs. What I am saying is my opinion, and your is your, we don't have to like them both and we don't have to be invicible enemies about it to. (Remember that we are invincible to each other?)

presido1:
Nothing like a weak consolation, As you said Zik's directed them to IR, where did Buhari direct those seeking for his certificate. Who failed short in law? The same people you are supporting today. They initiated the quota system and they will die to keep it running. So you have no argument.

What makes you think that I am supporting anyone?
If you believe that Buhari did not attend secondary school, then he fall short of law requiring him to become a president of Nigeria. And instead of moaning about it on the internet, I am asking you to do something about and I will back you up.

Quota system is based on the crude system of tribalism, where people in power look after their close friend from their tribe when they get to power and that is exactly what Jonathan is doing today, so what the difference.

Who initiated the abandoned property? Wasn't it Ijaw people where Jonathan come from? if you are really looking back on who did what. But that is not my concern, because based on what I had experienced, an Igbo man is no safer with an Ijaw than he is safer with a Fulani, despite Igbo/Ijaw close heritage.

Matthewbriggs:
@ first bolded my brother you are still living in denial.
@ Second bolded PDP carries out character assassination and APC is the saint. Barcanista the master character assassination is a revered father abi.

Chai One of the first diagnosis of an APC supporter is hypocrisy ... I am afraid you are still living in denial prove me wrong.

We have to agree to disagree. I don't in honesty even believe in the this project Nigeria, let alone supporting any of it's political party. Why would I deny I support something if I do? I was hoping that by now they will be talking about issue related stuff but never. You don't have to be partisan to know that PDP is just the reincarnation of the old NPN. They don't believe in free electoral process, even when they had no serious challenger, its in their blood.
APC has lots of barggage that can be trashed out, like the issue of deporting Nigerian in their own country, but those doesn't interest PDP and their supporters because it doesn't involve Buhari. I want to hammer APC on real issues but PDP aren't giving people like me anything but useless propaganda and negative tactics based on lies on personalities.
Most of my family, in fact almost all my family are in PDP including a former elected governor, so it not about party politics for me.

BrokenTV:
Papa Ezeachi you are a man that I respect a lot but your utterances this time around is not good for your personality. Call a spade a spade , if Buhari in actual real sense which I don't believe lost his certificate why didn't he state it at first instead of lieing his way around, somebody that cannot tell his people the truth how do you expect them to believe him. Was it not the same Buhari that told us that his certificates was with the military.

I understand, but that is life. We are bound to disagree sometimes and also agree some other time. Hopefully by March, all our sanity will return and we can find something more to agree upon.
You believe he is lying and I honestly don't believe that there is anything for him to lie about. That the sharp difference between us.

PointB:
Thank your for sharing with us the depth of your history knowledge and and experience. As they say "those who fail to learn from history are doomed to repeat it." Is Buhari not aware of these happenings? Is Buhari not aware of the law requiring SSCE as a requirement for contesting election in Nigeria? What stopped him from arming himself all these while with the necessary requirement? If he's ignorant of the requirement of running for presidency in Nigeria, what make you think he won't be ignorant of the problems he's coming to solve? If he's unprepared for election what's the guaranty that he's prepared to lead?

Even as we speak Buhari can make necessary move to (re)acquire his certificate, what's stopping him?

I am sure Buhari appreciates your deep concern for his wellbeing.
The fact remained that, who told you that he has qualification problems?
I heard or read that he will be campaigning in Akwa Ibom and Rivers State tomorrow. That doesn't seem to me that he is worried or ignorant that he got a problem.
I for one had no idea where any of my own primary school or secondary school certificates are. If you ask me, I will simply refer you to the school I attended. Whether they got a copy or a record, I don't know.

AlfaSeltzer:
The real story is that APC is seriously bleeding.
Even market women are now gossiping and laughing about Buhari's illiteracy.

That what you wished and also the wishes of those that started it. Market women are more concern with whats for dinner tonight and if there will be any tomorrow? They are concerned about their soup in the hot fridge that has gone bad because power has gone again.