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greatdave: brodaly,its nt d object of the cross that draws our fascination but wat the cross represents...that one who knew no sin,who bore no guile was made sin and experiencd a shameful death on the cross! What Love,What Sacrifice! To some,the bible is jst a book bt to the xtians,its a manual for living life to its 'glorious fullest'!

Christianity when Jesus founded it was done to satisfy your fascination, its not about how you feel. Any believe, customs, doctrine outside the confines of the bible should not be taken seriously. Like I said before, neither Jesus himself or his apostles or the 1st century Christian had anything called the cross, let alone the one they are fascinated with.
Only an insane person will be fascinated by the instrument used in killing his beloved one. There many weapon mentioned in the bible that were used in killing Jesus, like nails, Hammer, spears- why is your fascination not extended to them too. I believe that introduction of cross into Christianity has nothing to with Jesus, but rather the Roman pagans that hijacked Christianity, who are already has many triune god, of which the symbol of cross represent. That my opinion, if you have a superior argument, lets hear it.

stankezzy: spiritual war fare is not fought on pages of paper or laptop.there are something i have just noticed,an ordinary muslem can insult christianity ,insult pastors but i have noticed that iman or muslem clerics can instigate ,say any thing against christians or man of God but if you ask him openly for u to quote him ,especially when it involves man of God that is powerfull,he will tactifully dodge it.a muslem cleric that converted to christianity once said ,the last thing they want then is to enter into spiritual warfare with christians because they no they will lose nd they tactifully dodge it.after insulting chritianity mention one great man of God like adeboye,tell him oya talk against him i will quote you ,he will say please dnt quote meooo!.i dnt want to die oo!.

I try not to go into any reasoning with fanatics because they got nothing to over other than making assumptions or abuse another opinion. Who told you that I am a moslem? I raised a question and the descent thing you should do is to provide what you think its the answer in a civil manner or just bugger off. What has the issue raised got to do with the moslem you converted. Those that worship pastors but never try to learn from the scriptures and the author. Get a life!.

thelastPope: I am sorry, but you are very stup1d! You are your kind are the problem of Nigeria.

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Calling someone stupid for just having an opinion that doesn't marry with yours? That is not how life works.

gramci: Prof Ango must be stwupid, he's employing cheap lines that failed in 2011 and ended up garnering support for Gej again. He must be a very dumb professor.

The earlier his type realises that no region can single handedly deliver a president in this democratic era, the better for them. As rotten as Nigeria is, it belongs to all of us, not just me nor prof ango alone.

He is not stupid and 2011 is not 2015, I believe that Jonathan knew that fact.
Ango and his co travellers are protecting their interest of which the positon of Jonathan is making things difficult compare to the way it use to be. Jonathan's only chance is based on the theory of Nigeria that who holds the Yam also hold the knife to cut it and secondly he should study in detail, Nigerians other effective weapon called divide and rule and apply to the northerners,

chiover: If this revelation happens to be the true nature of what transpired in Imo State, then Rochas should be flogged and APC flag shoud also be burnt to ashes. I don't want to buy this story untill the relevant agencies complete their investigation. But never you be a Snitch if really you intends to rule Nigeria Bro Rochas.

This is how many you are deceived and swayed by many english words jammed together with meaningless figures. Can you digest and break down what you think you leant from that long gist that makes you come to your conclusion?
These are Nigerian expert rogue politicians, don't forget that.

[quote author=Itoroetti ]Is that an answer to the puzzle above?
Why don't u comment on the issue raised than look at his personal lapses if at all he has.
@op,I am so happy that d elder agbaso is taking this up personally and he is wiser than they all are.to be convicted,the must be proves and proves.I am happy u are going along way to vindicate ur brother of the alleged allegations.what pains me the most is that,the said company was introduced to imo state by the governor and nobody is raisng eyebrows on this.why!
Who owns "ROCHE GROUP" which I s handling almost all the constructions in imo?
Okoracha has to answer many questions.[/quote]On the issue raised, I did not see the connection with Okorooacha too. They named the beneficiaries/shareholders of the said companies and concluded that Agbaso is not one of them but forgot to mention too that the person they mentioned in the headline, his name equally wasn't there too.

One thing you should know by now about Nigeria rogue elite is this: Even if you caught their hand right inside the pot, they will still claim not to have done anything wrong, they will blame someone else or say that they are being persecuted.
After all Ibori is still claiming that he is innocent, and some dumbos still believe him too.
That is reality of Nigeria, I am afraid.

timbros: @ bolded:

Stop giving half baked info here bro. Mourinho joined União de Leiria with seven games left to be played for the season and guided them to their highest-ever league finish: fifth.

What does that have to do with working without big budget? Get your facts right before posting, okay?

Even if you are a novice is maths, how many points do you collect from 7 games?
Its like saying that the new Reading manager came with just 7 games to go and is at the bottom and then finished 5th. How miraculous is that?

If Uniao de Leira finished 5th with just seven games to go when the magician arrived, have you asked yourself how many points Mourinho inherited for their total point collection?
Because even if he won the whole seven games, which he didn't, no team will finish 5th without having collected enough points earlier in the season.
Use your brain.

timbros: @bolded:

Mourinho's Porto of 2004 was largely unknown except maybe Benni Mcarthy which we all know because he is an african. In all honesty, do you know about Deco, Maniche, Carvalho, Costinha, Carlos Albeto before 2004?

Maybe to you they were unknown, but they had all won things with Porto including stars you missed out like Jardell. Mourihno did not sign any of them. He inherited them. Go and check.

There is something I never get or understood with Christendom and their obsession with the instrument they claimed Jesus was killed. Lets use this analogy for example. Your best friend or your beloved person was assassinated with a gun, then later you and all those that love this person decided make images of this same gun, make replica of the same gun and wear them as jewellery, as charm and venerate this same gun that killed your loved one.
Would that in any way make any sense?
If cross was used in killing Jesus, why would anyone that love Jesus even touch a cross, not alone kiss and venerate a replica of the same cross. It make no sense at all. And I have search the whole of the bible or the history of the apostolic time in the first century to see where Christian followers of the time used cross of any sort, I still had never seen one.
That left me with the questions:
Was Jesus really killed on a cross or something else?
Is there a link between the cross and trinity?
Can the use of cross has anything to do with one of the ancient artefact of the Roman, which along with many of their tradition was smuggled into christianity after killing off the genuine custodian of that faith and hijacked it? Answers will be appreciated.

CFCfan:
Aimar, Ayala and Canizares.

That is exactly the point. Benitez brought the names you mentioned from obscurity to super players including Mendieta and others

2legit2qwt: What happened to your internet connection? Use Google ibeg, i can provide you the link if you can't find it

If they are well known household names at the time, you wouldn't be needing any internet connection and not google. I never put too much emphasis on managers but one thing I do respect manager s for is those that manage to bring unknown quantity players, polish them into super stars. Hence I do respect Arsene even when he hasn't won what others has won. Because, there won't be George Weah ever without Wenger, buit I can't recall any player unknown player ever used by Mourinho, let alone turning them into a household name.

2legit2qwt: Benitez top manager? Don't give me a laugh.
Yeah Mourinho works best with a huge budget, but he can be trusted with that and not many can. Can the same be said of Benitez, maybe not completely. On that note alone, i don't think he ranks among the top 10 or anywhere close.

I personally never ascribe to this new idea of a top manager, because I maintained that any manager is a good as his player and not only just having huge financial means to acquire them but also the money to be able to keep them too. I don't know how you measure a top manager, to discount Benitez? He has won everything, other you considered as top manager had won.

In my opinion again, I think what most so called successful managers does best is knowing the best time to join a club, the choice of club and the best time to get out, which I believe Mourinho to his credit has a PHD in it.

We don't know any other way Mourinho had worked except with big budget as the only time he worked without big budget in Portugal he came 5th. Just one season he was asked not to spend unlimited at Chelsea, he quickly agreed to walk away. He is a very clever man, no doubt about that, but the magician he makes out to be and one day he will be found out. Mark my word.

2legit2qwt: Liverpool is probably the worst team to ever win the Champions league cup , the league and cup stats points towards that, this is probably followed by Chelsea or so . While i can agree with you that Valencia were impressive earlier on with Benitez in charge, it wasn't long before his failings started showing that he had to resign.

He's a good manager but not a top manager to manage a club like Chelsea and managers do make a huge difference.

Before you comes to that conclusion, maybe you should watch the final between Monaco vs Porto first. In my opinion Liverpool final with Milan is the best finals anyone can ever recall. It has everything. Chelsea is a Mcdonald fast food of football, take the owners money out, they will go back to the mid table team they were for over hundred years.

CFCfan: You're right. Sometimes, good players can make a coach look good. Valencia won the La Liga with fewest number of goals scored in the history of the league - 38 goals in 38 matches. Also, Liverpool captain, Gerrard always gives his all for his team, regardless of who the manager is.

Do you real know anything about football? Who cares about how many goals Valencia scored to win it, the fact is that they were the champions after 38 equal amount of matches? Have considered that, maybe they have got the most solid defence? That philosophy might be, that they won't score a lot but also won't concede much too?

So in your opinion, Liverpool won it because of Gerrard but with another mouth, you claimed that Inter won THEIRS not because of the players but because of Mourinho is a magician?

2legit2qwt: Exactly my point, it's very easy to tell the difference when a better coach is in charge of things. Benitez isn't good enough for Chelsea

Was't it the same Benitez that won the champion league with Liverpool and Liga with Valencia despite the two Spanish Giants?

CFCfan: Remember that 3 weeks ago, Barca fans were craving for the return of either Guardiola or Villanova, they blamed Jordi Roura for their losses to Madrid and AC Milan.

Barca fan has the right to crave for the return of their manager because Jordi Roura is not a manager but a coach. Some of the players may not even listen to him if he is to say something to them. That can happen.
So if you give Guardiola or Villanova a team like Grenada, they will still be rubbish because they got the bulk of rubbish player they can afford.

CFCfan: You are spot on. A tactically deficient coach can ruin a team.
With all the decent players at Inter Milan, why haven't they been able to win the Serie A since Mou's departure?
It's simple, his successors don't have his coaching acumen.

This is the mistake you people make with Mourinho's propaganda. When he went to Inter, they were at their peak, and had just won things before his arrival, also Inter having inherited the best players from Juventus and Milan, because of their match fixing problems at the time.

He inherited a team with an average age of 27-28 (this is the age of peak of most footballers) and left the team when the average age is over 30 and again both Milan and Juventus are back after their troubles.
Why didn't he stay and build a new team, like the likes of Ferguson. He came and used a ready made team build by Ranieri/Mancini with bottomless money to spend and then ran off.
Benitez was a fool when he took the Inter job, because everyone can see that the team was completely skinned and left with just the bones by Mourinho, it was a disaster waiting to happen.

CFCfan: Maradona was a beast then. Sometimes, great players can almost single-handedly guide their teams to glory. Even some of his 1986 World Cup team mates have said in some interviews that it was Maradona who dragged them to the final.

That is exactly what I had been beating about with you all along that any coach is as good as his players and his clubs wallet. Its Maradona's ability and some good players they got that won it , not because the Napoli coach was a genius.

CFCfan: Porto and InterMilan were NEVER amongst the favorites to win the UCL in 2004 and 2010. No one can with all sincerity say Porto were amongst the elite European teams in 2004. In 2010, it was considered a shock when Inter eliminated CFC at the Round of 16, let alone defeating Barcelona on the way to the title.

Neither were Red star Belgrade in 1992 the favourite, when they sweep everybody to win it.
Any coach can win the champions league with good players, seeding, good draws and luck. Even Liverpool too won it recently with mediocre players in majority.

Shollyps: is dat 1 an amazing feet?if he was so grea,he should have atleast won d portuegeus league 4 dem

Exactly, Wenger won the French league with Monaco when Marseille was one of the giants of europe, Napoli won the Italian league twice in a roll with Maradona, with the likes of Juve, the Milan giants etc watching.

2legit2qwt: How can you explain Barcelona faltering this season compared to the seasons they have been managed by a certain coach or even the one before him?
You have a point about a good manager having his job made easier with better players but you can't take away from the uniqueness of the coaches as well.

No coach will perform a miracle with a prematurely assembled team like QPR or players who are being denied their wages, that's a totally different ball game

If a team still in the Champions league and leading in the league by a wide margin is called faltering, maybe that english word "FALTERING" has changed.

CFCfan: In the early 2000s, he guided another unfancied team-União de Leiria, to an amazing 5th place finish in the Portuguese league.

Ok, ask yourself where the same team Uniao De leira finished the season before that? And what makes 5th place amazing? When the likes Real Sociedad has won the Spanish La Liga more than once in the last century with both giants around?
And how did you come to the conclusion that they are unfancied in Portugal?
When was the last time you watch that team play, if ever? Some of you only talk about just the team that are regular on satellite TV.

2legit2qwt: No denying that the quality of the players matters but you ca't take out the geniuses of coaches like Mourinho, Ferguson, Hiddink et al
This Chelsea team has enough quality to be challenging the title but they have fallen flat when the stakes are high. With coaches like Mourinho, there's the motivation that makes player put in their best even when losing.
Benitez is clueless for the most part and he shouldn't be allowed near a top tier team again

They are not genius, they are good managers, managing the best teams with the best players all over the world, with money to be able to get any player they want and also keep their best players without sweating of losing them to another team.
I don't think a manager buying ready made articles like Van Persie or Ronaldo's of this world is a genius act, even you can do it. He should go to Malaga and motivate the players that are not sure of their wages each months and lets see how it goes. I can just see how he will motivate Ronaldo and his friend, if they are not paid for a week, not alone months.

CFCfan: Err.. Mourinho once won the Champions League with an unfancied Porto team in 2004, and he defied all odds to win the UCL with Inter in 2010.

Porto is one of Europe elite clubs before and after Mourinho and it was also an unfancied Monaco that beat in the worst European cup finals ever. Don't buy the propaganda. Which team did he coach before he came Porto and how did the team do under him? Have ever ask yourself that?

CFCfan: Yeah, after winning this season's Champions League, Mourinho has to come back to CFC.

Before, he descend on Chelsea with his magic touch,maybe, he should retain the La Liga first. Cup competition is anybody's on your lucky day, after all Millwall is still in the F.A cup and Malaga still in the champions league. What about Monaco in the champions league final?
That what cup games are about.

2legit2qwt: Nope, i can't wait for the season to be over to have Mourinho back, we need him now more than ever before we become liverfool

Open your eyes clearly, he was playing with his pen

Playing with his suit and tie/pen on the touchline/bench, not with a blue shirt on the pitch.
Mourihno is not a magician, every coach including him is as good as the player she has and the owner millions available to him to get whoever he fancies. If he is a magician, then his train should stop at Loftus Road to save QPR or even Reading.
Its funny how the so called good coaches only coaches the top teams with the best players and owners money to spend.

2legit2qwt: Advantage Tottenham
Thanks Bentiez for destroying Chelsea and Abrahimovic for giving you the opportunity to do it

I didn't see Benitez among the 11 well paid men wearing the blue shirt on that pitch, did you?
It easy for the bandwagon satellite TV football fans not to have imagine that before Abrahimovic arrived, Chelsea was just a middle table cup team hanging on for their existence with Ken Bate.
I look forward to the day the real chelsea fans(not the bandwagon TV ones) will start hanging placards calling on the Russian to go.

eko ilee: According to who? According to a can't read and comprehend WAEC reject like you? Is Osun defender now Vanguard?

1. The story has nothing to do with Aba or the rubbish the poster posted.

2.This is about power outage and how 2 states handled similar situations, one took care of the situation by being proactive while the other did nothing so tell me what the Aba nonsense got to do with the story.

3. Fake news is irrelevant news that has nothing to do with the topic of discussion
Now go back to elementary school and re take your reading and comprehension class...

Maybe, they never told you that paper qualification is not a mean to no end of man's education? After all, The oga at the top fame guy was a graduate like your honour too.
While I will take your advice and go back to primary school, you still haven't told me what makes the news from Aba a fake news, while the one from Osun defender is a real one?
While I am not a PHD holder like you-your majesty, it might be better if educated ones like you shows us the unlettered ones the way of reasoning like learned people, rather than thinking from a small box that anything outside of your village is immaterial.

DMainMan: I hate this governor. I thought he is competent. He hated the deputy has they had issues.

Why waste your treasured hatred on someone that doesn't even know of your very existence? What A WASTE OF ENERGY!

eko ilee: Wrong thread.


You people don't get tired of all your fake news paper, internet delusions and pronouncements with zero reality?

I thought the two stories of both Aba and fortunate Osun people came from the same source-Vanguard Newspaper? How does one become fake news, internet delusional with zero reality and the other isn't?
Some of you are seriously in trouble, that only our creator can attempt to cure.

bloggernaija: Jonaduh has alienated those who can give him political cover. He only has yoruba politicians without political weight,come and chop northern politicians,close to the grave octogenarians,thoughtless midgets without critical thinking skills from the south south and ibo politicians who will sell at the right price quicker than you can Hail Mary.

You very right.
Jonathan should have recruited trustworthy Yorubas like OBJ, Arisokola Alao, Shonekan, Lateef Jakande, Olu Onagoruwa, Babatope, Oladipo Diya, they are all known for not selling out even for the right price, no matter how quick you hailed Mary.
I am trying to forward your advise to Jonathan now through new breed trustworthy Yorubas of Reuben Abati and Doyin Okupe.

Welcome to one Nigeria!
The north is putting its act together-not Nigerians are putting its act together.
The north allowed Obasanjo 8 years-not that Nigerians allowed OBJ 8 years.

We will see how this pans out in the end. Jonathan doesn't know that he can solve all this problem by just few strokes-
1. Call a referendum tomorrow on One Nigeria.
2. Start a process of 100% regional govt/Confederation/total resources control.

Ango and his brothers can then rule from Kaduna as much they wish, Jonathan can become the king of Otueke kingdom to eternity if he so desired.

But just like Ironsi, Jonathan believed in his own fallacy of one Nigeria, until he goes home in a box.