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Subbyshal:
I am in Nigeria, a Nigerian and I have lived here forever.
I have gone to Canada twice 2016 and 2018 on visiting Visa ... So I don't even understand what they mean by that.

Another error on the Kenya Immigration Officer's (KIO) part. Applicant is applying from his home country with a Nigerian Passport. Despite that, the responsible Visa officer is not satisfied about his current immigration status in his home country. This tells how inefficient and callous these visa officers can be as they tend not to be reviewing files in its entirety.

The sad aspect of it all is that even the GCMS notes we firmly rely upon for clarity are also generic!, which leaves prospective applicants in the dark as there is no set out system/standards to follow.

Having said that, you have no option but to order for it and share the notes with the members of this thread.

On the other hand, you can address those reasons that were raised in a well articulated context and file for re-application.

Be strong and hope for the best in your next application.

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Oganammuo:
Hello family,
Hope we are staying safe.
Pls the gurus in the house, advice me on this.
I applied 2nd of March pgd, May intake,
got BVL on 17th April.
Since then till date, no update.
I sent webform to know the status on 10th of May.
Now I am thinking of sending to them my deferred admission letter.

Will it serve any purpose or should I just Mello and continue to wait?

Should I send it or just stay calm?

I think a decision has already been reached on your application. Nonetheless you may have to chill for a while (1 week) since you already raised a CSE two days ago.

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Subbyshal:
Good afternoon Everyone,
I just got my refusal letter based on the following grounds, please help me and advice me on how to tackle the refusal reasons.

I am not satisfied that you will leave Canada at the end of your stay, as stipulated in
subsection 200(1) of the IRPR, based on your travel history.
• I am not satisfied that you will leave Canada at the end of your stay, as stipulated in
subsection 200(1) of the IRPR, based on your family ties in Canada and in your country of
residence.
• I am not satisfied that you will leave Canada at the end of your stay, as stipulated in
subsection 200(1) of the IRPR, based on the purpose of your visit.
• I am not satisfied that you will leave Canada at the end of your stay, as stipulated in
subsection 200(1) of the IRPR, based on your current employment situation.
• I am not satisfied that you will leave Canada at the end of your stay, as stipulated in
subsection 200(1) of the IRPR, based on your immigration status

The documents I submitted are:
Acceptance letter from Seneca College
Statement of Results
Statement of Purpose
Birth certificate of all my siblings
Valuation of Properties
Elder sister is a citizen in Canada (her Birth Certificate)
Waec result
Transcript
NYSC PPA letter (I am finishing this May 2020)
Reference Letter from current employer (I am a finance Intern)
Land document
Letter of support from Dad (my main sponsor)
Sponsors SOA
About 25 Tenancy Agreements (since that's my Dad's main source of Income)
My passport
Police certificate
Money in just savings account is about 10.5 million naira, properties worth 306 million naira

I regret to hear your study visa application was rejected. Before I could provide my assistance, can you please explain to the house where in particular did you file for your study permit application, as I can see from your refusal reasons the visa officer has concerns about your current immigration status.


What is your current immigration status in the country you applied from?


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justwise:
Please don't start this, someone just got denied and you come up with this? How much do you know about this case that you are certain that throwing up $4,000 will win the case?

Visa that cost less than $300 to apply and you want her to spend $4000 to appeal?

I was only expressing my honest matter of concern as regards the applicant's visa refusal which was as a result of an oversight error on the visa officer's discretion. The VO had wrongly alleged an indictment on the PA's application wherein the applicant has never travelled beyond the shores of her home country before.

Well, I have cases like this and applicants who find themselves in such circumstances prefer seeking for a legal support and advice before making plans to file for a re-application.

In view of the foregoing, I only gave a suggestion, I never imposed it on the applicant. Every applicant must be responsible for their application and the onus is on the applicant to decide if she can afford to hire a lawyer or pay fresh application fees by addressing the concerns raised by the VO.

I believe my post haven't contravened the section 6 of the rules and regulations governing this honourable platform.

Let's move onto the purpose why this thread was originally created. Thank you!


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Olayinkaji:
Sorry boss, any idea if it is opened?

No idea, as they are currently waiting for further instructions to be communicated to them by IRCC. Hopefully in the upcoming weeks (by month end or first week of june), they should start accepting biometrics and paper based applications.

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Faith243:
Thanks alot for the advice @dommakavelli, @frankrobbn1, @wunaarroon69, i will put all you have said into consideration.
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Best of luck faith.

Wunaarroon69:
Do we actually know the meaning of masters?? It seems that using it as a means of immigration has slowly diverted the whole purpose of getting a masters.

But no problem our oga, anything you say

We Nigerians see master's as a big achievement. But in the western world the reverse is the case.

To some reasonable extent master degree graduates rarely find jobs measurable with their degree unlike Nigeria that Job advert requires you to have masters, in Canada its only in the educational sector that requires masters degree. Confirm from indeed.ca most of the advert requires diploma, certificate and atmost B.sc degree.

I can list 5 Nigerians in K-W area that graduated from masters programs that are not working with their result.

Please Nigerians pgc/d programs graduates are changing jobs because they have hand on skills from the colleges which employers are looking for not degrees.

Cc:Jephehe

At the bolded, your opinion is always welcomed on this thread and I greatly appreciate your kind assistance and immense contributions on this platform.

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Wunaarroon69:
That’s what I’m saying.

Your reason for apply for Msc is not clear because usually msc is for people that have work experience and want to learn more per say. Also not having a job shows you lack home ties which all boils down to “purpose of visit”. I wish I can see your sop because that’s where you made mistake. If you have explained your reasons well, they would have given you. The only one i don’t understand is this contravened the conditions of admission on a previous stay in canada. First time I am seeing such reason [/b]

Fresh graduates are not expected to be gainfully employed as at the time of application. She completed her NYSC and since then she has been applying to schools in Canada to further her education. I don't think your standpoint on this trending issue is accurate because ever since my 4 years of experience on this reputable platform, I personally advise fresh graduates to declare NYSC as their current employment when filling their study visa application forms and what happens, they get approval and come here to share their success stories. I am not trying to show off, but I'm only trying to let you know that she been unemployed as at the time of application considering her NYSC was completed last year and with the COVID-19 global pandemic has no negative effect on her application.


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Faith243:
If i should go with an attorney will that cover for the other reasons?

Yes, the attorney will cover for the entire reasons that were raised by the visa officer in your application. For crying out loud, you're a fresh graduate, how does the visa officer expect you to have an Asset at this starting stage of your career?. How does the visa officer want you to raise funds for your personal financial status since you just completed your NYSC and being sponsored by your biological mother.

The visa officer went further to raise purpose of visit, does this sound logical on the visa officer's part? since your first degree was statistics and you're going for Msc Statistics. This is an academic progression but the visa officer overlooked it.

Family ties, you included your mom's landed properties to show you're among the beneficiaries of these assets and will be coming back for them. I am very certain that the Visa officer didn't go through your application entirety before making a decision on your file.


Now you can see reasons why I am of the opinion that with the help of an experienced immigration attorney you case can be won.


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Wunaarroon69:
What of people that have been rejected based on travel history despite having many histories of visiting US/U.K. etc. Even people that have been rejected because of ties in Canada. I believe it’s a generic refusal. Involving immigration lawyer na long process. I was previously denied based on travel history even though I uploaded my previous visas and even current US visa. Also based on ties in Canada but I don’t even have a close friend there no talk more of family. I didn’t use any lawyer, but I got the permit after explaining facts in LOE and still uploading same documents. I’m not saying she shouldn’t get lawyer, I’m just saying it’s not very necessary. Not only Canada, other countries reject generically all the time.

almost 1.2m to use on top immigration lawyer that you’re not even 100% sure of winning the case? Me I won’t advise sha/

When you've cogent reasons and stand out FACTS, you can hire an immigration lawyer to handle the process on your behalf. Kenya Visa officers are intentionally rejecting applicants from Nigeria because they know that we are desperate and for the fact that we don't know our right. They know that no matter how they reject applicants from Nigeria with flimsy reasons, people will continue reapplying blindly without seeking for legal advice and support.

I know that Visa issuance is a privilege and not a right. However, when it comes to a situation as this, it is very pertinent that you must do your very best to see that your application is carefully reviewed the second time. The VO had wrongly alleged a false indictment on the applicant's application as the applicant in question has not contravened her immigration status in Canada and have never travelled out of her home country, which is a very strong ground to overturn the visa officer's decision.

According to the subsection 16(1) of the Immigration and Refugee Protection Act of Canada which states;

"16(1) A person who makes an application must answer truthfully all questions put to them for the purpose of the examination and must produce a visa and all relevant evidence and documents that the officer reasonable requires"

The applicant meets this requirement and the privilege to review her application by another visa officer is highly recommended.

Bear in mind that your case is different from hers and according to the Immigration and Refugee Protection Act of Canada, No two applications are the same, every applicant's case is unique and as such treated independently based on the visa officer's discretion.

I have rightfully expressed my concern regarding the miserable mistake from the visa officer on Faith's application. The onus is dependant upon her whether or not she will opt for a legal assistance or reapply by paying fresh application fees.



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Wunaarroon69:
This one na work o.
Where and how can she find an experienced attorney? Plus the money involved and time. Is she not able to reapply and state on her LOE that it was an error because of so so reason. Anyway you know better I guess

I know two experienced immigration attorney Law Firms in Canada that she can use to fight the case with strong arguments and backed up evidence. They specialize in more difficult cases and they know what they are doing and can help.

It is true that the process would cost her approximately 4,000CAD. However, she is doing so because she knows her right and the visa officer that handled her last application will be queried by a senior immigration officer at the Canadian embassy. Due to this miserable mistake from the visa officer's part, IRCC lawyer will not like to go to court but to settle and let another immigration officer go through the application the second time. Believe me, it mostly ends as an approval.

Reapplying blindly and addressing the reasons in an LOE might not be sufficient in her case because there is likelihood that a fresh reasons could be raised or she might not be able to convince the visa officer about her rejection grounds.

@Faith243, Be careful to not wait too long. You only have a certain amount of time (60 days for applicants outside of Canada) to be eligible fight through this process.

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Faith243:
Thanks i will reapply but i need to tackle to reasons for rejection before doing that, so gurus in the house please i need your assistance.

Don't just reapply blindly, get an experienced immigration lawyer to fight your case. Your case has a good prospect to be won by a lawyer. The process would cost you $4,000CAD. If you can afford it, go for it.

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Jephehe:
What is your brother status in Canada? Is he a biological brother or brother in Christ?

Jeph, I don't know you to be a comedian @ the bolded. I believe the refusal is an error from the visa officer's part for having raised such reason when the applicant haven't travelled out from her home country before.

@Faith243, I regret to hear about the rejection of your visa. I would suggest you appeal your case with an experienced immigration attorney. Let even assume that your brother is the one at fault, but that in no way should effect your application as your profile is meant to be treated independantly. These visa officers are human beings and as such are bound to make mistakes.

I am confident with an experienced immigration lawyer you stand a better chance to be approved.

Lekiboboe:
Hello house, Good.morning,

I have two questions


1) When an Applicant has uploaded the POF of his/her Sponsor ... Does it mean , no money can be withdrawn from that account for the main time the Application is bin processed?

E.g a Sponsor showed a POF of 20,452,300 Million Naira, and he wants to withdraw like #50K, Is this Allowed while an Application processing is going on using this Sponsor SOA or its after the application process is over (Approved) money can be withdrawn from such account...

2) A scenerio whereby a a sponsor has Two accounts
First bank (e.g GTBank) has a large amount of Fund, which houses the Tuition and Living Expenses of the Person he/she is sponsoring

The Second bank account (Polaris Bank) is the one he uses for his Business Venture,(which I have shown his CAC and other company documents ) but the money there is not much, cos its when he makes sales , transaction do go on there..

Should I still show the Polaris Bank he use for biz purpose?

Thanks

Lekiboboe:
Anyone has an answer to my enquiry?

Thanks..

It was never a rule of law by IRCC that sponsor's shouldn't make use of their money even though there is a pending visa application for a Candidate at the embassy. Sponsor's are very free to utilize their money at any given time for the smooth running of their businesses but should maintain a steady source of income i.e inflow and outflow of cash in their bank accounts.

Please note that non-withdrawal of funds is only applicable to permanent residency applicants and NOT study visa guarantors/sponsors.


With regards to your subsequent question, You can include the Polaris bank statement as a supporting POF in your application. However if the funds in that account is just 500k, I wouldn't advise you to include it because I have seen a scenario whereby an applicant submitted two bank statements (one is company and the other personal), the visa officer refused the application on the basis of financial insufficiency. Thus in order to have a clearer insight on the refusal, the applicant decided to order for the visa officer secret file (GCMS notes) and comments obtained from the notes narrated that;

"Sponsor submitted POF of 500k, which shows a modest/low financial support to cover for the PA's planned studies in Canada. I am not satisfied that you have the financial resources to pay for your tuition and upkeep without working in Canada"

Mind you, the applicant included two bank statements but the Visa officer neglected the personal statement but used the company statement which had huge inflow and outflow against the applicant's application. In view of this, I would suggest that you should provide the bank statement that has the adequate available funds to cover for your tuition and living expenses and leave the company statement.

I have noticed your moniker lately and how passionate you're to the members of this thread. Keep it up.

I hope this information satisfies your enquiry.


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Evergeen22:
Good Evening everyone
I’m a Nigerian with 2.2 from a federal university who’s currently in China studying Chinese language and photography. But I’d love to goto Canada for Msc in logistics or business management. So I have some questions please
1 is it better I apply from China and have my interview here in China ?

2 or is it better i apply from Nigeria ?

Thanks in Advance

You can apply from China if you've a valid study permit, work permit or permanent residency permit. Aside this, you will have to return to Nigeria to file for your study permit application.

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Ujeinijobog:
Hello everyone

Please I'm on the verge of submitting my application for study permit. I'll like to verify if some of my sponsor's details (her passport, travel history and company certificate of incorporation) should be attached with her bank statement and uploaded on the window for financial statement or it should be attached to my sop and uploaded on the window for client information?

Thank you

All financial documents including proof of identity of sponsors should be uploaded on the window of Proof of Means of Financial Support.


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gettingbeta:
Hello everyone, I have followed this thread closely, reading through all the advices from the gurus here. God bless you all for what you do, I have made some good friends offline who have been helpful in one way or the other, learning a lot from what I read here also, its been a learning process all along. You are all doing an amazing job. Thank you all.

I intend submitting my application this week, kindly see my documents below: Gained admission for an MBA at UCW Vancouver, BC for July intake{MBA foundation}, main program starts in September 2020.

Client Info : Birth Cert, Family Passports and Marriage Certificate {Married with 2 children}, Family photos, Education Plan Insurance for my 2 children, School certificates{graduated in 2008 - Business Admin & Magt}, Resume & Professional Certs, Tax card, Employment and promotion letters {been working for 12 years}, Relocation letter, Wifey's Letter of introduction from work, Family birth certs, Police character Cert, S.O.P, Life Insurance Plan, etc.

POF : My 6 months Payslip and Statement of accounts {using the authorization ticket from GTB}, Pension statement till date, House Insurance Certificate worth#21.8m with rental incomes, 2 Landed properties with documentation and cost evaluation, School's scholarship letter and grants, Employer letter of introduction stating my study leave approval, Cooperative account statement of #6.5m, My business C.O.I, Mutual Fund investment letter of #8m plus, Payment receipts of CAD16k {school first year is CAD21k}. Wifey statement of account, etc.

Other study documents have been duly filled and uploaded already online.

This is my first time applying, I don't intend going with my family as wifey has to take care of business while I am away. I work and do business by the side too. I am 35 years old.

Please honorable gurus, kindly scan and skim through if I omitted an important document as I intend submitting this week.

Please help as I am at your plea.

God bless you all.

@frankrobbin, justwise, just mellow, lekiboboe, etc...

Regards.

Having reviewed your profile, the list of supporting documents, family composition and intended program. I am optimistic that everything is in place. Nonetheless, make sure you get any of the knowledgeable gurus on this thread to glance through your SOP to ascertain that you've been to cover every loopholes in your application.

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Daum:
Thanks
What's an MEng program

Master in Engineering program. It can be in Civil Engineering, Mechanical engineering, Computer and Electrical engineering. It depends on your area of speciality.

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kaylov12:
@geosolomac
Can you please help me with a sample of ielts exemption letter issued from University?

A typical English proficiency waiver letter is attached with this post.

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Kabz:
Hello my people, I need your opinion please. So I got a conditionally accepted for PhD, the requirement yet to be met is copies official copy Bsc university transcripts and certificate from my university. Problem is Uni is on lockdown and there is no sign of reopening as a result of the Covid-19 wahala. I have talked with the University in Canada and they’ve asked I can send electronic copy but still my Naija Uni say e nor possible.

I also applied to a different university and I had submitted all official documents there and haven’t gotten any decision at this moment.

My Question: Is it possible to cancel my application at this university I have not gotten any response and ask them to send these official documents I have sent to the other Uni where I have admission.

I’m also open to any other suggestions that could help.

Thanks

It's totally not possible and unacceptable. Note; that any document you send to a school abroad has automatically become their property and will be kept for reference purposes. At this point, you will have to request for a new transcripts to be sent to the other University you applied to in Canada. No University in Canada would incur the cost of transferring or using the courier service to send documents on your behalf to another school.

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Godsblessings:
Ameen ,
thanks for your response, really appreciate, it's really getting frustrating now ... she had C4 in English language and C6 in English literature . The school is also requesting for course outline and transcript but the issue is that we have declare that she just got admission into a university here in Nigeria and now has never completed her first semester and as a result, she doesn't have any transcript because of this reason and the school has insisted that we should send her course outline and transcript . please how will she /we overcome this , please house attend to my request, please

You shouldn't have declared that she is enrolled in a University in Nigeria since she hasn't completed any semester yet. I think you were the one that shot yourself on the foot. Nevertheless, I am of the opinion that you should try your best to explain your current situation (inability to obtain the first semester transcripts) to the school in Canada and see if they could see reasons with you. On the other hand, while waiting for the school to respond with their decision, also apply to the University of Regina for any of the undergraduate programs that is reasonably inlight with the applicant's interest. I must tell you that Visa chances are higher with University of Regina for undergraduate studies than Winnipeg (this is something I have practicalized with few applicants).

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Jasiro:
Please could you throw more light on the federal skill workers program?

Federal skill workers program is otherwise referred to as Express Entry. It requires three years or more experience, IELTS score - 8777 and POF of 13kCAD for single applicant.

In order not to derail the thread, I would suggest you check this forum EXPRESS ENTRY THREAD NAIRALAND for more information.

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ohizzy:
Hi @Frankrobbn1,

Thanks for your input as well.

But my only issue now is my ex-company already terminated all workers including our so-called HR, which now makes things a little complicated for me.

If I may ask what do you suggest I do?? I can have a one on one convo with her but don't really know how far CAC goes with their verification process.

Please any input would be highly appreciated.

Cheers..

You can get a letter of introduction from her. However she must be aware of your intentions to travel abroad for an advanced education, so should in case IRCC calls the number on the reference letter to verify your current employment with them. Meanwhile, it's very rare for IRCC to do that for a regular study visa application.

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Luckymama:
That’s the family information form right? That’s the form I advised someone to download, print and sign, then scan back. They were shouting on me. Oya Frankrobbn and Anon123 come and explain to her how to sign family information form without printing it o.

My sister as for me, I printed it, signed all the portions for signing, scanned it back and attached it. Note that there is more than one place for signing. If you are not married, you have to sign the part that declares that you have never been married. Same with if you have no kids.

Sorry my response is coming late. I have been occupied lately.

As I said earlier, you don't need to sign any of the IMM forms if you're using the online route. After successful uploading of documents into their various columns on your MyCic account, you will be prompted to electronically use your full name as written on your passport to transmit the application to IRCC for due visa processing.

Cc:NwanyiOkpa.

@Luckymama, did I shout on you? I'm sorry if i did but i was only trying to put the applicant on the right track.

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Qudkom:
Your CGPA is a quit low to be considering msc program in Canada. The msc programs are very competitive so I think a Graduate Certificate program will be a good fit for you. Also you can make use of 2 sponsors it only makes your application strong. You can also declare you have family members in Canada it improves your ties to Canada.

Overall 3.57 CGPA is a second class upper division (2.1) which is the minimum requirement for admission into a master's program in Canada. @Daum, can go ahead with his application, but must write a well structured and articulated SOP that will substantiate him considerably as a good candidate for the program. However, MSc programs as suggested by Qudkom is very competitive, your best shot will be to opt for an MEng program.

Cc:Daum take note.

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Chimzy4real:
I have applied to mun with a 3.59, does it mean i don't stand a chance. I am feeling feverish right now seeing this

Don't be frightened, your CGPA of 3.59 which is 2.1 is acceptable for a masters program in Canada.

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SetZ:
Hi beautiful ladies and gents please I am faced with a dilemma OK a very close brother of mine applied for study permit same as me around February but has not gotten any response from the embassy I have asked him to send mails but the real issue has to do with the fact that his admission was for may 1st he has been trying to defer but the process seams too slow and proving abortive due to covid issue please need advice on what we can do next

Plz would really need an urgent and nice response thanks

Your friend should call the school since they seem not to be acknowledging his email. The visa officer might request for an updated LOA prior to a visa is issued.

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Jasiro:
Please, is there no legit nairaland thread for working in Canada? Help a brother.

Securing a job offer is almost impossible from Nigeria. Beware of any compensated agents or consultants that will guarantee you a job offer in Canada. As a matter of fact, due to the ongoing COVID-19 pandemic most companies in Canada are not recruiting foreign workers instead some employers are laying off workers as a result of decreased business capitalization.

Your viable option to emigrate successfully to Canada is to apply for the study permit (which is the most expensive route) or through the express entry (federal skilled workers program).

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wunmi38:
Good day all,
I need someone to assist a requested for help but I have googled for days to seek for assistance but no luck. He was to go for a post graduate program in canada, his last education was 2011 and he has worked for 10years plus in administrative area and wants to go for Msc but wants to know the which school he can apply through and will be able to have a POF of 10M ninja money. The journey will include his small family of three

The 10M as POF is insufficient to pursue a masters in any administrative programs in Canada considering that his family of three (3) will be accompanying him to Canada. MBA programs and other related administrative programs are very expensive in Canada and the tuition fees range is between 28k to 36k for a entire duration of the program. With that said, the applicant should consider applying alone while his family remains behind in Nigeria as a tie in his application. More so, applicant should increase his POF as the stated funds might not be able to cover for his fees alone in Canada.


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silvamania:
Hello All,

Please who is going for MBA at University of New Brunswick September 2020

Please reach out to me


Also , can I use a 4 month electronic bank statement as POF ??

Thank you

At the bolded you can use 4 months electronic signed and stamped copy of your passport as POF.

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hamzat55:
Unfortunately you can't use conditional offer to apply for study permit. You will have to fulfill all the requirements including registering for the ACTW test after which you will send them confirmation of registration and then you will also pay the compulsory $5k tuition deposit. As for the study permit, that one can be submitted after you have landed in Canada.

So many misleading informations going about on this thread. Please can you quote exactly where you got this information?

Are you insinuating that applicants with conditional offer letter can't be approved of their visas? Let me tell you why that suggestion is not right. IRCC clearly stated that applicants with conditional offer of acceptance can apply for their Visa provided that they can meet the conditions established on their acceptance letter. There are so many applicants who doesn't have strong academic background on their proposed program probably because they didn't study a course related program in their first degree, as a consequence the university issues them a conditional offer on the account that they must complete some prerequisite courses prior to their full acceptance into the main program. This has never pose to be a problem and majority of these applicants were approved because they have shown that the conditions can be met once they get into Canada.

In summary, applicants with conditional offer can apply for their visa and will not face any issues at the Visa processing office.

To support my claims, please see the attachment with this post from IRCC offical website.

Also see links to successful testimonies that got their visa on this thread with conditional acceptance.

I think it's more logical to advise the applicant to pay the compulsory $5k tuition deposit before applying than saying conditional acceptance is not eligible to apply for Visa.


SUCCESS STORY WITH CONDITIONAL OFFER 1.

SUCCESS STORY WITH CONDITIONAL OFFER 2.

Cc: DeeWan, please be properly guided.

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Onweke:
Please must the governor of the state sign the deed of gift ?

No it's always be left blank

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