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Read some of the comments and you will tell me that blacks are equal to whites

Useless people! Some of them cannot outrightly condemn the incident because it is their kinsman or because of religion. I no even know wetin make me open this thread.

Filthy people!

9japride:
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There is nothing like intelligence there, Nigerian security forces are very intelligent and smart.
They just need the political will to work without being influenced.
I don't think those kidnappers are fellow Nigerians? They act with great animosity towards a fellow man.
They are just wild animals.

Total nonsense!

Scores of people were butchered in Plateau even when the location was close to a security post. You have an elite paying $60K on the Internet to the same kidnappers, and you put out the bold?!

Oh Please! You lots, both supporters and politicians, are NOT intelligent!

Dexy4yah:
God please make a way for me to leave this country 🙏🏻

I was like this when I passed one terrible and horrible road in Imo where I went to write TOEFL. While on the road, I silently whispered to myself "God, please make it possible for me to leave this country".

Work on it and plan assiduously, and it will happen.

Best wishes!

Mandela27:
Yeah and also I believe he will look well built also.

Boss please I really want ur opinion on an issue that is bothering me about my relationship.Youre one of the mature men I respect ur wisdom so much here .

Sor people in some months time,I already showed her to my own parents, this same girl loved me perfectly before I made the decision of settling with her,but now things are beginning to look some how

I am curious and I mean this without malice or ill-thought, how old are you?

Dpharisee:
I can't trust you for any reason, the kind of bigotry and insults you heaped on a lot of Nairalanders and citizens for not seeing things from your perspective as an ardent APC and Tinubu supporter must have led many to depression, you never gave them the chance to express their feelings as long as they are not in your camp.
You are saying this possibly because you have relations in the North including Abuja who can easily be picked up by bandits and the government you spent months promoting is showing total nonchalance, the Wike you called a great guy is busy with Rivers State political crisis to bother about people now doing crowd funding to pay bandits.
I think you are a double faced personality

Don't ever trust any Nigerian who campaigned and voted for Buhari in 2015. Those people are evil. If they have a gun, they will kill you. If they have an opportunity to share with you even if you are the most qualified, they will not share it.

Hold that grudge and hold it till you die. Don't forgive or forget. You are dealing with demons!

omohayek:
And here we see the sort of arrogant, hypocritical tribalist who exemplifies all the sins I've mentioned. By all means, keep indulging your delusions of grandeur about the "millions" and "billions" in deals you're supposedly contemplating, if said fantasies help you get through whatever humdrum existence has filled you up with so much obvious hatred.

Typical Nigerian intellectwat blowing big big grammar. The man you quoted is right in holding grudges. Here you are trying to gaslight him with tribal allegations. What tribalism is greater than that of those who voted for Tinubu because of Emi Lokan? Those who burnt the shops of other Nigerians on the basis of ethnicity? Those who flogged their kith because they looked like Igbos?

I am not surprised how you people think though. I have always maintained that people should understand Nigeria for what it is, rather than what they expect it to be:

Gerrard59:
There are the tribalists, too. As long as it does affect other ethnic groups, especially Igbos, they are satisfied. Their sole aim is never to see an Igbo man or someone who Igbos support in Aso Rock. It gives them an erection so bad!

Organise an election today between Tinubu vs Peter Obi, and the former would win for that very reason. Pit Akpabio vs Kwankwaso, and the latter would win it. Do Atiku vs Jonathan and the Waziri of Adamawa would win. In fact, pit Udom Emmanuel against a goat and your fellow Nigerians would vote for that goat.

You need to understand how your fellow Nigerians think.

Apparently, OP campaigned and voted for Buhari in 2015.

Never take such people serious. Anything happening to them is well deserved.

Don't forgive. Don't forget. Hold the grudge till you die!

dontrulee:
No go do Olosho. I wonder what people get in patronizing Ashewo's. I tried it and stopped because there was no gain in it

So, what do you do now?

P.S. There is no much gain in having sex. But testosterone - the male - hormone is not a m.oron. Remove testosterone and most men would not be interested in sex. But that very hormone is what makes a man who he is.

Jman06:
Stop this rubbish you always spew here!

So, those women who are engaged in other profitable ventures and succeeding in them are not Nigerian women Why must you blame men for the failure of some women to do things right

So armed robbers, kidnappers, fraudsters etc are also justified in choosing such means of livelihood, because many of them have cited failure on the parts of politicians as reasons for engaging in such activities

If you want to argue your point constructively, mention me in any of those threads. I doubt you read them. If you like, don't advocate for black men to develop their societies. Wait for women to do so.

Rich4god:
As strange as this may sound, let's stop encouraging baby mamas, it's not a good thing to do or to be

This is an HYPOTHESIS...

I have come to realise that most children raised by baby mamas/single mothers are very wild and lack morals. They are usually toxic inside of them and very disrespectful, no shame, no atom of responsibility in them and they always behave as if they have no parental guidance.

It's seems like a woman alone should not be left with the sole responsibility of training a child from childhood through teenage ages. Women do not have the mental capacity to do such and so the child doesn't turn out well.

It is not a hypothesis, but a fact. Children from single parent homes especially those from single mothers perform poorly in all ramifications compared to children from two-parent households. This is a universal fact.

It's a different game when a woman lost her husband and is left alone with the children. In this case, 60-70% of the time, the husband's relatives helps the woman to train the child. But that's not the case of baby mamas/single mothers.

While that is largely true, it is not the case any longer, as many men have been killed as a result of ethnic genocides and worsening insecurity. So we have a growing number of young widows whose husbands have been killed by Fulani terrorists and kidnappers. Go to the North Central part of the country and see the number of widows whose husbands have been butchered. Young women with young children. See the massacre which happened in Plateau recently, where children not more than five years old became fatherless and, in some cases, motherless. Those communities and the numerous ones in Benue, Kogi, Imo, Kaduna etc., would witness a rise in single mother parenting. Not as a result of indiscriminate sexual affairs, but because of terrible insecurity.

It is the reason countries with intelligent elites (the men) ensure the society is peaceful so that the two-parent household systems run efficiently without disruption. Nigerian elites are not intelligent neither are Nigerian men. Single parenting, especially single mother parenting, does more harm than good to any society or group. It is a major reason Asian-American children and families outperform their African American counterparts. In fact, that very reason is a major factor why black African migrants' children out-perform African American children: the presence of a two parent household for the former, and its absence for the latter.

Any man who tells you he wants a baby-mama is an irresponsible, uneducated, uncouth and terribly useless man. There are many contraceptive methods these days, so there is no excuse to wander your smelly preek around impregnating women and abdicating the responsibility of catering for the child (ren).

That said: yet another example to show you how Nigerian men and black men in general have failed their women: https://www.nairaland.com/6643241/nigerian-men-failed-women

Ibrahimlagosian:
What's wrong with people on nairaland.How can you justify the killings of civilians by accusing them of being terrorists.??
Shame on all of you!.

How many times have you protested the killings in the Middle Belt? There are Muslims slaughtered in Zamfara and far-flung Sudan (black people like you and I), Ibrahimlagosian, how times have you been concerned about their welfare?

Regex:
Racism has never offended me. When I came to UK and saw their system, I thought to myself, if this people got to this point in life, who am I to complain I am not given full rights to what the citizens have or not treated right. As much as I want to be treated right and fight for it, I will not make a fuss about it because, resource wise, we are richer than Britain, but see where Britain is and where Nigeria is... It's appalling.

If na when I dey Nigeria, I bin dey consider am small. But now? N to the O.

Two reasons:

- Humans are tribal, and the tribalism we have in Nigeria, considering the poverty, makes me disregard whatever is considered racist here.

- These people have built functioning societies, which we have never attempted to build. For crying out loud, Chinese surpassed us in average verbal scores on the GRE. We no reach. It didn't dey.

The best way is to be humble and learn like the Chinese and others did. This arrogance and measuring ourselves would do us no good. The worst are those living in Lokoja and Markudi thinking they are African Americans.

tensazangetsu20:
To be honest Christianity isn't the problem. We are foolish. Chile is an extremely religious country and even has religion Intertwining with politics and it didn't stop development. You couldnt even get divorced from your husband or wife until 2004 as it was against the bible. At a point in time it was illegal to not be catholic and not attend mass but it didn't stop anything. We are just foolish in Nigeria and Africa. Americans are very religious too and america is still developed. I have met very crazy religious people here and their faith is very strong. Honestly, even back then during the Renaissance periods in Europe a lot of the pioneers were very religious. One very good sculptor was asked why he was so efficient at his work and he said because if nobody is watching, God is watching. These guys did things with excellence. Look at European architecture from the very olden days and try to compare them to today. Religion isn't the problem. We are fools. Our traditional religion was even worst.

One day, people will realise that cultural characteristics is the key to prosperity and development. We have too many cultures and cultural practices which are inimical to prosperity, pragmatism and critical thinking in Africa.

I really don't know why some of our people compare themselves to the white man. It amuses me. For crying out loud, you are inhaling generator fumes then believe you and the man exploring space are the same?

Sladem05:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_in_Asia_and_Oceania_by_Human_Development_Index

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_African_countries_by_Human_Development_Index
With the exception of the Middle East and certain parts of Southeast.The gap between Asia and Africa is dramatically more than between Africa and Latin America. Japan alone has a GDP of $6 trillion which is approximately 3x than the entirety of Africa added on to the fact that it’s in the G7 and it’s on par if not superior to Western nations in all forms of development e.g technologically, economically, socially etc and so is South Korea, Singapore and quite a few other Asian nations. Those Asian Tigers are not to be messed up. Even the poorest countries of Asia have a much higher level of development than most of Africa

But that is exactly what I stated: East Asia is the only region that can be compared to the Western world. Nowhere else comes close.

Those ones think that Ikoyi, Victoria Island, Banana Island, Lekki, PH and Abuja are the only parts of Nigeria 😂😂😂😂. Those kind of people will make unfair comparisons between the elites of africa to middle class of the west and think that somehow means Nigerians are richer. Even the much of the rich in Nigeria would fall into upper or middle middle class in the West. It would seem appropriate to compare the elites of Africa to the elites in the other parts of the world and the difference is crazier. The African billionaires do not measure to the billionaires abroad. The richest 10 people alone in America have a net worth that around 2-3 trillion dollars. That’s enough to rival Africa’s entire GDP. It would be insane to even compare the likes of Dangote, Adenuga, Oppenheimer, Johann Rupert,Rabiu to the likes of Elon Musk(though born in SA, his mother was Canadian and he made all his accomplishments in both USA and Canada), Bill Gates, Larry Page, Bezos and Warren Buffet. The elite of Africa are little children compared to those overseas.

It is not even the billionaire size that trips me; after all, India has a large billionaire class, but many parts still look like sub-Saharan Africa. My own is the comparison these so-called our "online elite class" make with the West. I have noticed that many so-called educated black people who manage to have money tend to place their shoulders with the Western world rather than looking inwards and seeing that we are far behind. It is why when they eventually visit East Asia, they are stunned that there is a region which actually measures up to the Western world. Their body dey calm down.

Black people are way behind in every developmental indices.

P.S. I don't consider Elon Musk to be an African. The concept of African in this context is a black man. White Namibians or White South Africans can always point to their richer cousins in the West as proof that they are developed.

Afrocentrics and Pan Africanists are the worst of the worst. They claim everything as their own from Moses to Jesus to the Israelites to the Moors or Ancient Egyptians. Even The ones that compare themselves to the Western world deep down know that it’s a crazy comparison to make. Comparing Africa and The West is like comparing a jungle to a civilisation. They really shouldn’t try that sacrilege. And the worst part is that those are the same people that will still spend more time in the West than they will in Nigeria 😂😂

Those are a bunch of clowns, and we have them even in the US who are African Americans. Always claiming nonsense and sh!t! Today, they want black anime; tomorrow, they are wondering why black people do not fancy Talyor Swift. Tomorrow, they start chanting mumbo-jumbo about certain tourist locations trying to "cancel" it, yet money dem no get. Always wanting to be like the Whites, yet dem no get money and high living standards. You have foolish Nigerian women going to Morocco and Lebanon because it is an "African country", then try to cancel it on the Internet. Meanwhile, the top ten source markets for tourists to the country, Nigeria no dey inside. https://www.hotelmanagement-network.com/data-insights/source-markets-morocco/?cf-view

The ignorance and arrogance which is garnished in chronic privation is befuddling.

Those Nigerians that speak that make those comparisons are the ones that have never experienced real Nigeria. They are the ones in diaspora or are here but wealthy.

Which is exactly the problem. As I write, there are miscreants on Reddit/Nigeria who believe Nigerians in Nigeria don't "warm" their soups. These arrogant ret@rds believe every Nigerian has a microwave and refrigerator. Meanwhile, statistics show that only 1% of Lagosians (where the bulk of the middle class resides) have an airconditioner. Imagine that figure in a tropical country, yet air-cons is the norm in a tropical Singapore.

I keep writing it, Nigeria exists outside leafy parts of Lagos, Abuja and Port-harcourt. Apart from Abuja, the elite areas in Lagos and Port-harcourt don't compare to the elite parts anywhere in the Western world. A place where there is no publicly piped water system cannot be described as an elite neighbourhood.

Sladem05:
So Yes, Latin America is far beyond Africa. Latin America is really not even that far behind Asia and it rivalling Asia doesn’t seem so far fetched either.

Depends on the part of Asia. Comparable with parts of Southeast Asia. Better than South Asia. Far behind East Asia.

Countries like Brazil and Mexico really have the potential to be global powerhouses. But whether that actually occurs is yet to be seen
Africa is by far and large the poorest and least developed continent in the world. And it’s not close. Not by any stretch of imagination
Latin America is far ahead of Africa

Some Nairalanders say Nigerians are richer than Americans and Europeans. https://www.nairaland.com/7937278/why-nigerians-think-whites-richer/1#127517217

The West is light years ahead of Africa to such an extent that they make Africans look like a lower form of humans 😂

People don't know how terrible it is. My annoyance is the ignorance and arrogance our people have. I shudder when they compare themselves to Western countries. The only people who should do so are East Asians. Everybody else should not try that sacrilege.

tensazangetsu20:
Honduras is safer than Nigeria. Crime rate in Nigeria is underreported. People are kidnapped and ransom is paid and it never makes it to the news. What of the killings going on in rural areas all across Nigeria. Many of such incidents happen and are unheard of in the news. At least when it happens in Honduras we all hear it.

Still does not make Nigeria top five worst countries.

tensazangetsu20:
Honduras is far better than Nigeria. Nigeria is amongst the top 5 worst nations on earth and that's me being pitiful. Nigeria should be compared with Haiti, Liberia and the likes.

Entirely untrue. If Nigeria is one of the top five worst countries, what about other sub-Saharan African countries? Honduras is a murder capital for crying out loud. They shoot there for a living.

tctrills:
Oga is life better now that our currency is falling?

When life was good in Nigeria, the price of oil was high, ditto production. The population was not as large as today. What we are suffering is the persistent reliance on oil as the major source of foreign exchange.

Are our companies getting more competitive now? The answer is No. We both know this so why are you finding it hard to say so.

The best way for our firms to be competitive is via a devalued currency. About the bold, how am I finding it hard to say so? I clearly agreed with you in my last post.

Many manufacturing firms are reporting a loss but somehow, you don't see it as an obstacle.

Because of over-reliance on imported materials. In 2016, during the recession, many companies had to resort to local suppliers to replace imported supplies. Unfortunately, this could not be sustained because of those factors you listed, which I agreed with you.

This is no longer about your opinion or mine. Let's look and see how the falling currency is affecting business and the economy.
Are businesses rejoicing and celebrating the falling currency or are they counting their losses? You know the answer to this so why the argument?

Businesses are being affected by falling demand and rising costs of inputs. We literally import petroleum, so our foreign reserves have dwindled over the years coupled with low production even below OPEC quotas. But how you believe a stronger currency devoid of an increase in oil price and production rather than export of non-oil products will help Nigeria is what makes me confused.

What and where exactly do you have a problem with the naira?

tctrills:
It would be unwise to encourage manufacturing without making it easier for the manufacturers. We shouldn't just ask people to go into manufacturing without removing the obstacles that previous manufacturers have faced.
We already have industrial clusters but that is not the solution.
Start from the basics
1. Electricity
2. Good roads and other transport infrastructure
3. Security
4. Make it very easy to clear goods at your ports.
Oga, do these and the argument is over. You would see industries from China, Europe, and America begging to set up shop in Nigeria.
At present, we are a disgrace.
We should be asking, why are businesses leaving Nigeria for Ghana.
It's a big shame. But take care of just these 4 things I mentioned and you will see many of your importers going into manufacturing.

But aren't those items I mentioned even when this thread was posted? I clearly stated that those measures should be put in place to further encourage manufacturing. But saying the currency is the obstacle is where I disagree with you.

tensazangetsu20:
Honestly since you are married you should consider childbirth in countries that can offer you citizenship after the child is born like Brazil and mexico than to suffer through the school route o

Are those countries offering tourist visas to Nigerians living in Nigeria?

If no, the best is to lock up on childbearing and plan for the children's education to good schools abroad.

Good luck to everyone involved.

fullclub:
Which Cv? I have almost 8 cvs collected from various people.. You won't understand unless you are in this shit..
I was able to land a job after I did a forklifting certification which cost me over... Let me not mention.

So please stop attacking me. I did everything humanly possible and even the impossible I did.

even all those people that said I should contact them.... I did non respond to my mail

Unitil you find your self in a distance land you will know that no one has your time everybody are chasing either to renew their residential permit, or one immigration stuff or the other

I am not surprised. Ever since one Indian dude with degrees from Caltech and Yale Business School went on Twitter seeking for jobs, only to return to Trinidad and Tobago, I know say na every man to himself. People quoted this guy's tweet asking him to send his CV and all, nothing comot. They offered assistance and well wishes, na lie! Bros returned home and returned to the US as a student. This time at Harvard. https://www.nairaland.com/7535720/nigerian-students-now-americans-how

In this life, na all man to himself, God to us all.

tctrills:
So today, I decided to give a more detailed explanation why your suggestions don't just work.

The military regime of Buhari ban the importation of so many products.
Then Babangida came in and introduced structural adjustment program. This also made it illegal to import certain goods.

Both men failed.

P.S. In 2015, Nigerians voted for one of them because he told them "I will phight kwarruption", and they believed.

Again, the civil rule of Buhari also ban the importation of rice.
Now let's talk about the effects of the rice ban since this is the most recent.

In a period of 8 years, the cost of a bag of rice went from 7k to almost 50k bringing untold hardship to the people.
Imagine what this did to the 105 million Nigerian living in poverty.

He did not just ban foreign rice, but closed land borders. That was the major problem. Well, he was voted to phight kwarruption.
Let's not forget how he emboldened his brothers (Fulani herdsmen) to go on the rampage destroying people's crops and slaughtering farmers across the nation.

Then, the government spent 100s of billion in local production. Till today, the CBN's anchor borrowers program has not been able to recoup 10% of the loans it gave for rice production. Billions were stolen.

Part of the reason why local production did not take off as expected was because of Buhari's brothers, who went about destroying farmlands, waylaying people, kidnapping them and butchering them. Buhari wrecked havoc.

As of today, foreign rice still dominates our markets.
I remember the last governor of Ogun state had to create fake rice pyramids to justify billions spent on the investment.

Foreign rice dominates because many people who invest in agriculture have their hands burnt because of Buhari's brothers. So, local production could not keep up. This thread exemplifies it: https://www.nairaland.com/7723312/nigerian-kidnap-gangs-drive-big-time

Buhari and his brothers did everything. People like Alore are extremely proud of their decisions and have no regrets. However, after installing the incompetent feudalist, they fled as cowards!

It was a total disaster so why do you want us to repeat the same foolishness again?

Please don't misquote me. I never advocated for the closure of borders or ban of imported goods, but the naira is good at where it is. You are the one advocating for a strong naira, but I am saying it is not possible due to low oil production vis-a-vis our population. Oil like you mentioned is our major export , but we produce too little to cater to everyone's needs in the country. The naira cannot be strong as you want. That time don pass.

CaveAdullam:
This has been my stance over time.

And the author is about to shake my belief.

Cc. Gerra.rd59

When Efosa promoted the book, he outlined examples of countries and instances where prosperity begets institutions. The same applies to developed countries. They had ongoing prosperity, which necessitated the creation of strong institutions as time went on. The institutions did not come before prosperity. They came after.

tctrills:
There are only few profitable export businesses in Nigeria. In fact if you remove oil, export becomes an almost intangible percentage of our GDP. Those who import are making many times more and the data proves it.

I agree with the bold.

Have you been to any of our big industrial estates from Agbara in Ogun state to Aba in Abia state. If you have, you will see the number of manufacturing firms that have either fully or partially pack up.

Does this mean we should continue importation? Should we not look towards aiding manufacturing in the country?

Manufacturing is not as easy as you make it seem.
155 textile industries have collapsed in Nigeria.
Many manufacturing firms of the 90s are no more.
Please don't let anyone fool you that manufacturing in Nigeria is doing great.

Obviously, manufacturing is not easy anywhere as it costs a lot and takes a long time to break even let alone make profits. Also, the involvement of PPE makes it more difficult. This is why people target service and trade industries since they can produce profits faster.

You are more likely to lose money going into manufacturing than importation.
Talking about the solution, first we need to stop lying to ourselves. Manufacturing in Nigeria is terrible. It's a risk that usually does not pay off. After we tell ourselves the truth then we can explore solutions.

As I earlier mentioned, I listed solutions to enable manufacturing work. Another solution is to create industrial clusters in each senatorial district in every state. Let each state attract businesses that can produce based on the comparative advantage they have.

tctrills:
Hi bro, I just saw a post on Nairaland and I remember our discussion.
It says Cadbury, Guinness, Others Lost N472bn To Naira Depreciation.
This should tell you that a falling currency is not necessarily good for industry.
Again imagine the faith of small and medium scale industries.
How do you expect them to cope. It may not be a wise idea to ask Nigerians to invest in manufacturing right now

Because they sell to Nigerians. Japanese and Korean companies which sell to residents experience the same. Those who export generate billions in profits. The solution is to reduce imports of raw materials which can be sourced from within the country. Target the export market. It is good to invest in manufacturing provided you are selling to foreigners.

Let's take cassava: invest in processing it into ethanol and export every drop of it. Labour is cheap in Nigeria. As I mentioned, the issues are logistics, security (for farmers & outgrowers) and high import levies on equipment.

Originalsly:
No doubt. But what are the conditions under which foreign companies operate in the US? The US does not lay out the red carpet for foreign companies like they do in Nigeria ... neither can they just pack up and leave overnight. What we refer to as foreign investment is almost always foreign exploitation. Question to you ... how many Free Zones in the US?

So, what is the ChipsAct all about? Besides, the US is already the world's largest economy with the deepest pool of financial capital. So, she is already attractive to foreign investors. However, in areas she needs investment, carpets are rolled. Very long carpets.

It is a lie to say the US does not roll out the carpets for foreign investments.

jedisco:
I think we need to see language for what it is- cultural and dynamic. Words are added yearly to the English dictionary and what constitutes right and wrong moreso at different times in history is never white or black moreso for a language like English.

I could go on and list tens of English words or phrases used only in certain countries or even subregions even within the different countries that make up the UK that are not used elsewhere. Same thing with spellings. E.g When did sick become vomit

I understand country-specific context, but using "there" for "their" and "borrow" for "lend" no follow. Only Nigerians do so. Only us, even an elite.

benalvino3:
I cannot help you. you don't have analytic skills. you don't know what par capita is.
UK allows 500 Indians in, out of the 500 only 100 bring in dependants.
UK allows 150 Nigerians in, out of the 150, 125 bring in dependants.
this reflects what I said, India is still 2nd but the ratio is 1 in 5 Indians bring in dependant compared to Nigeria.
So what is the Ratio for Nigerians bringing in dependants with the example above?

Next time, you should state "By sheer numbers, Indians hardly bring dependants compared to Nigerians". This is because according to the stats from the Home Office, Indians come second in dependant ratio. It is that ratio which got the Home Office alarmed, not actual students' numbers after all, amidst the geopolitical brouhaha, the Chinese were at the top as of 2022.

tensazangetsu20:
As in eh but you can't blame them to be honest aside the UK there's no country in Europe that's easy to go now. The affordable countries won't give you visa. Even Bulgaria no gree give people visa.

Why can't they invest the money into a business in Nigeria?

MavisEleanor:
Which is more lucrative?

No idea. Lawyers are best positioned to answer the question, but they should come with empirical evidence.

I no fit lie give you is not an evidence.

benalvino3:
you don't understand how numbers work but let me help you.
as you can see from the above, Indians entering the country was more than 3 times compared to Nigeria, Yet they are still second behind Nigerians bringing in their family. if you still don't get it then I suggest you improve your analytic skills.

with the numbers above for Indians and Nigerians, Indians should be a distant first if they have the habit of bringing in their families. Like i said, most of them moving to the UK, Canada etc are young. 17 to 24 make up the majority of them.

benalvino3:
Nigerians and Indians too like to abuse any small opportunity they see. At least the Indians moving abroad hardly bring in their family members as most of them are young. Nigerians, Na the old them they travel these days.

Nigerians brought more dependants, and Indians came second. But you lied that Indians hardly take their families along.

I have already told you, accept that you lied. You won't die if you do.

P.S. The debate is not who gets the most visas, but who takes the most dependants alongside the primary applicants. Nigerians and Indians do so very well.

benalvino3:
you will not understand.

I don't need to understand people who lie branzely on the Internet.