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Ukuts gp: Without God science is vain. It is God that gave scientist the wisdom to invent those things we are enjoying today.Since you know so much about your wisdom-dishing God, kindly enlighten us as to whether it was God or Satan the Devil that gave scientist like Alfred Nobel the wisdom to invent and patent numerous human-killing devices such as the dynamite, fire-arms for killing humans such as the one the then Pope was shot with, while your Jeovah God stood by watching how surgeons qualified in science operated him. |
Roda94: Well here in London there seems to be more of an interest for Yoruba teenagers wanting to speak Yoruba well. I'd say in the next few years those that speak fluently will increase significantly. The question should be is the quality of the language depleting? As Titilayo rightly said, few of us know what window is in Yoruba. We have become so used to peppering Yoruba with traces of English thus in the process forgetting what some words are in Yoruba. I am optimistic however that the only way on is up and there will be many people who become more fluent and hopefully in the process the quality of the language becomes better. As for extinction? Yoruba could never be distincthttps://www.nairaland.com/1520264/yoruba-language-slowly-nears-extinction |
Roda94: As for extinction? Yoruba could never be distinctWith the way things are going, Yoruba as a distinct language is facing extinction, happening surreptitiously. It's a blare fact that Yoruba folks down here communicate with each other in Yoruba but always speak and compel their children to respond in English. Another instance is the fact that most Yorubas of today prefer to name their babies with foreign names mostly Jewish and English, ignorantly ebbing the Yorubaness in them by throwing a given Yoruba name to the back. I once asked for the native name of someone I met, very dark in complexion male who so proud he wasn't given any native name, as his first, middle and surname are all English. You see, with this sort of pattern trending, it's only a matter of time before it reaches 89% extinction or worst as it is - vitiated. The Yoruba movies who think they are helping are infact one of the instrument jeopardizing the soon-to-vanish language. My attitude towards the Igbo dominated so called Nigerian films used to be the same for Yoruba movies until recently, however as before, still poorly directed, overused cliches, weak plot, unrealistic and predictable story and worst of it all, they both relish profit in the bastardization and demonization of our cultures and traditions, both of which are in tandem with our indigenous language. Check out the so called Yoruba films in respect to their error prone subtitles which will ofcourse confuse and mis-teach the young growing ones and other non-Yorubas interested in the language, that aside, why should it be called a Yoruba movie when all the time, its actors and actresses can't make a complete sentence in Yoruba without employing two or more English words? Is it that we don't have the equivalent of 'but' in Yoruba? There are even two; 'sugbon' and 'amo' but one frequently hear statements like “Chief mofe ran yi but se mope moyin school lowo, mi deni fe ki education mi lo wa affected”. Don't misconstrue me, as I don't mean extinction in the 'dinosaur' sense. What I'm trying to say is Yoruba as an ethnic identity may eventually become de-concatenated from its original true language. Evidence of this is occurring on daily basis, everywhere in Yorubland, it is so subtle that most speaking it don't even realize it. I know this because I'm sensitive to it all the time. Couples of months ago, at a buddy's place, there was this young lady who visited Nigeria for the first, with her Yoruba mum both from Germany. Her mum could speak Yoruba, but she could neither speak nor understood Yoruba at all. Even her English is poor. You see what I'm talking about. These reasons and many more are what made an high profile institution whose name I can't recall for now, classified the Yoruba language among five or so other lingua francas that are fast wiping out, given to which became the sole reason why those 5 Americans decide to major in the study of Yoruba language at the University of Ibadan. Those linguistic experts do observe and analyse these traits periodically. Now to prove their extinction theory right, let me test you. Hope you are ready... What's the Yoruba word for Lion, Mammoth and Tiger? |
macof: Jesus is dead na...wats all this for?Jesus spoke to me through the holy spirit, 3 weeks ago never to stop making these Nairaland religionists look f00l15h |
Ukuts gp: no matter how u rant from now till tomorrow, GOD remains GOD. He is still on his throne. He cant be dethroned by any man. He is just watching u in HD, giving u time to repent and believe in him.If you know so much about God(Jeovah/Yahweh), what was he doing, when his chosen race were been slaughtered at various concentration camps during WWII? Was he slumbering when Hurricane Katrina was manifesting., or do you want to tell us that those living in Lousiana aren't different from those in Sodom and Gomorah, I'm sure they were several parishes and God loving people there. |
@OP Those issues you listed resulted from the total neglect of native traditions and customs by all............except me. |
Oluwatola5: Does my belief in anyway affect you? Hello!!!Yes my dear, it does. So many, one of which can't help seeing my yorubas brethren being misled into a middle-eastern religion. Moreover, it has never in anyway helped our Yorubaland. Take a look at our society now, does it spell well? Compare it to other pagan west African nations like Ghana and Benin Republic where there is 24hours electricity supply and provision of basic amenities and social infrastructures. Go through my posts and you will see the perspective I look at things. Let me ask you an objective question. Don't you think our government would shape up to the over-due responsibilities it owes us, if it agents were made to swear oaths in the activated presence of Amadioha, Ogun and Ayilala? Check out this thread: https://www.nairaland.com/961735/nigeria-better-off-leaders-swears Again, I ask you, are you a true Yoruba or a Jew wanabe? |
Oluwatola5: Our Bible is complete, our God is a mysteryYour God is a mystery? Are you a true Yoruba or a Jew wanabe? Which God are you talking of that is a mystery? |
I don't care about Hitler nor nazism, but one thing he sure proves was that the Jeovah/Yahweh god of the Jewish people does not exist. Otherwise he would have come to their aid when he was gassing them to death at various concentration camp. |
Ukuts gp: Hebrew 10:31.Slave, are you a Jew? Do you communicate in Hebrew? Do you observe Kosher? If yes, then you don't belong to Africa. Migrate to the middle east. Ukuts gp: I want to warn them to stop as the consequences is so terrible and deadly.what sort of consequence, is it the type that occurred in Katrina while he (Yahweh) sat on his throne sipping blood? Ukuts gp: They should know that God is nt their mate but their maker. So when they are talking concerning him they should be very careful.Really? Where was Yahweh/Jeovah when Hitler was gassing his chosen race in Auschwitz? Ukuts gp: Hebrew 12:29.Your un-llustrated story book said so, well I'm pretty sure The Incredible Hulk would defeat him if they matched. Ukuts gp: No one plays pranks with God.I have naughty Christian friends who did more than playing pranks. One dared him, looking straight in the mirror. But guess what, Nutt in Ha puned. Ukuts gp: I want to state here that all the atheist, satanist, and pagan should embrace Jesus as their personal lord and saviour and believe in him before it is too late.. How does one embrace a dead fiction. Best you go back to your ancestral believe system before it's too late. |
Nothing most Igbos wouldn't do for money. Meaning Janet Jackson too must have come from an Igbo line-age. Lol! |
IG: This is from a book "The Unknown Arabs: Clear And Definitive Proof Of The Dark Complexion Of The Original Arabs And The Arab Origin Of The So-Called African Americans" by Tariq Berry pages 122-123Why not the other way round? |
Logicboy03: Even a secondary schooler can define evolution.Big time. |
wiegraf: but I can tell you that before I'll consider the laws of physics breaking downWiegraf, which law of physics can explain a goat tied down and pumped with pellets, instead of tearing to shreds, the ruminant just they writhe about in pain. Or throwing something up and commanded to remain there with incantations and charm. BTW, let's forget all those Derren Brown, David Copperfield and Chris Angel feats, we a know their technique doesn't involve the supernatural, they are premeditated tricks which are perfectly staged and professionally delivered. The thing is none of you African atheists have seen or experienced genuine supernatural magic that defy all reason and scientific logic and here I am offering an opportunity to bear witness to one where hence we can collectively focus our energy in to understand what sort of force and or energy is involved that is unknown to modern science. How can it be harnessed and used to better our failing society. Check my footnote signature na. But all of you just yari kpata kpata. Una too like arguing. Please let's focus on those first, if you give me a sensible hypothesis, I would accept it or modify it, if be, or look for another. There are lots more I need scientific explanation for. I like Folykaze hypothesis for the explanation of ayeta, I have a better one. But the one where the projectiles touches the body and drops is what I'm asking you wiegraf, even if you don't believe because you haven't seen it, just let me know whay you or any other scientific minded thinker think. |
Lincoln burrows: Ok then, yours is a different ball game.No I prefer Pro Evolution Soccer, because it's more dynamic than Fifa. Ode Lincoln burrows: You are not an atheistAgain, I'm only atheistic towards Abrahamic religions (Judaism/Islam & Christianity) Lincoln burrows: you only chose to serve the devil.Hahahaha! Devil ke, hope say no be that character wey de for that storybook? Cos I don't believe he exist just as Doomsday don't exist which is even more fearful it makes your the devil so nice. And if by any chance you're referring to D12's track: American Psycho, yeah I like Eminem a lot, but I don't serve him. Go figure. Devil's Night went platinum too. Lincoln burrows: And you are looking for more people in the kingdom of darkness.Hahaha! Guy stop cracking my rib na. Going by your shallow statements, thus Nigeria harbors more people into the kingdom of darkness. Electricity supply has been lacking in my locality for a year and some months now. Lincoln burrows: So there is no need to argue with you.Like you even made any point. Lincoln burrows: I argue with atheists because theirs are more of human reasoning and logic.Na lie. You enjoy them poking @ your Jewish religion. You are a faith sadist who relish in atheists making you feel pain inside. If it was for their reasoning and logic you like arguing with atheists, what about polytheists, taoists, pantheists, Shintoists, henotheists, Hindus, agnostics etc ? Are you saying they don't have logic and reasoning to not accept Jesus and acknowledge the desert deity of the Jews: Yahweh/Jeovah? |
Lincoln burrows: just like there are countless proof that Jehovah God exists.Proof such as those who killed infidels and sacked countless settlements during the Crusades, all in the name of God (Jeovah/Yahweh). Yeah you right, proof such as the torturings, hanging and burning of thousands of women believed to be heretics for using herbs to cure diseases and ailments, all in the name of God. Proof such as those who justified black enslavement citing passages in the Bible to back it up. All in the name of God. You peeps aren't so different from your looney cousin reigning now. Lincoln burrows: We are talking about a compelling proof that will erase all iota of doubt and not just mere proofs like you claim.I'd like to know. Don't go mentioning mountains and seas else you will have to explain why he'd (Yahweh) allowed hurricanes, tornadoes and earth quakes to kill unjustly. Lincoln burrows: Don't even know where u stand. You believe that Sango, amadioha and ogun exist yet u don't believe that God exists. For your information, atheists don't believe all those stuffs including supernatural occurrence.I articulately know where I stand and have stood. I believe in a God, not just your megalomaniacal, misogynistic, blood-loving, infanticidal, plague-causing, antropomorphic bully inside that popular book of tales called The Holy Bible. Bonus: If you want prove of Shango, Ogun or Amadioha. It's very simple. I'm sure you ought to have spotted their shrines in the public somewhere around. Just go there alone, or with your most faithful Jesus believer, example of desecration you could do is to spit, stone it or urinate over it. Nobody, not even their devotee and priest will hurt you like you religionists always do to defend your blood sucking Middle east idol. But, I assure you the deity will give you a reply. PROVED. |
RSAMAN: That is not a sub-genre of rock. It's a genre of music and it's called Heavy Metal. Thrash Metal and Death Metal are not synonyms of Heavy Metal as i see you describe it as Heavy/Thrash/Death Metal Thrash and Death Metal are sub-genres to the genre of music called Heavy Metal. Other sub-genres of Heavy Metal include :^Ye kpari-kpa ! Na wetin? Omo guy, you craze gan o for this metal sheets.....I swear. How can one tell the difference between these ^ sub genres? Are they measured in terms of how ghoulish and noisy? Which one be Viking metal? What about Pirate metal? WTF is the difference between black and dark metal? And where in hell did they get technical death metal? Christian metal ko, Muslliim metal ni. Abegi metal na metal jo, meaning senseless noises generated by repeated banging of kpangolos with iron rod. #AbokiMetalBuyers. Lol!. Joke aside, I stand corrected. However for a long time I was confused as to which is which. I even bought some rock magz back then, which still got me more confused since they mostly advertise, gisted, review and interview more metal heads than the sort of hard rock bands I like listening to. Up till now I still find it quite hard to relate to metal music in general. BTW, Cypress Hill, to me lack luster, infact their wacky counterpart Limp Bizkit are a tad better by style and delivery than them, though over punkish. I mean, after buying their bones and skull album, I felt stupid to have been swooned by the glossy artwork of their cover, na growsy tracks full the 2 CDs, original album for that matter. D tin pain me dat time I no fit break am. Ehem! Back to the Head Bangers, So ma guy, yarn me how una take dey feel those noise and growling for metals? Aside from few of their beautiful application as soundtracks to action movie scenes, car racing games, wrestling jingles and wrestler's intro into the ring, how does one or how do you feel metal music? I bought Metallica DVD, which I still do have, very clean, d tin never scratch cos I no dey hear am. I have tried and tried. E no be like Linky and 3daysGrace or A7X or Adema etc. And also, I know some of these 'mentalo' deliver sensible messages just like my hard rock bands, but how do they expect listener to hear when their instrumentals is so chaotically noisy such that it blots out their lyrics? And come to think of it, don't you think they ought to be Chaos Metal? If not, maybe we should start it. |
macof: Yes anything just to discard and disregard the ancestral spiritualityIt's our people who are responding to colonial programmed instruction using a micro-pocessor (mentality) made for slaves. What do you think about those Americanos at UI studying Yoruba language. Do you think their motive is a genuine one or something else is behind it as many have speculated, conspiracy. Let me know what your thought. |
IfeomaVanessa: Rock is just like baseball, it's not a Nigerian thing.I'm dead sure your favourite must be A Thousand Mile, abi? What about Kelly Clarkson? My sis made me appreciate her Breakaway track, as I did them Linkin Park's 'Faint'. |
emk4lif: I doubt rock is a genre most nigerians appreciate talkless of heavy metal rock, doubt it'll be commercially viableI don't really think so. I think it depends on how it is packaged and showing originality. Do you know there are heavy rock bands in Saudi Arabia? Besides, would you agree that majority of music listeners in Nigeria don't know there are mainly three types of Rock music; Soft rock The likes of Daughtery, Greenday, Coldplay etc whose songs are always mild and sonorous. Too Hard rock Like most of the tracks from artiste/bands I listed^ who rarely compose soft, melodious strings except for Linkin Park who now do that a lot now. Heavy/Thrash/Death metal Una know them na. Dem de tok sense o, but d noise 3 much. Mastodon, Childeren of Bodom. Cradle of Filth, Korn etc . This sub-genre of rock is what an average Nigeria thinks of, when the word 'rock music' is mentioned. I've asked females before severally, do you listen to rock music? And it mostly: "ehn! God forbid, I don't listen to all those devilish music, me I like Celine Dion and westlife". Though, that was back then, I wouldn't know about now since I've stopped bothering to ask. One day I'm going to write a piece about Nigerians mis-reaction to rock music as a chapter within the topic: A Critical Look of the Nigerian Entertainment Industry. BTW I like this soft rock track by Kasabian or so, the track is: Processed Beat. You all should check it out, very cool and sweeeeeeet. |
@A L L Do you think Nigerians would appreciate a genre of heavy rock instrumentals blend with rhythmic local-type percussions laced on top with senaible lyrics. @Vanessa Have you heard Vanessa Carlton? |
^ there are lots of factors causing it. But mostly is after effect of colonialism and our continuous denigration of anything relating to our |
I still don't understand why many of you both on NL and out here, like mild rock trax? As for me I listen mostly to H A R D R O C K, cos they fuel my imaginations and fires my creativity. Mine are: Nirvana Smells Like Teen Spirit only, the rest na noise. Linkin Park 90% of all tracks in Hybrid Theory, Reanimation & Meteora are the best Adema Giving In, [The Way You Like It, Planets, Cold and Jaded Foo Fighter Pretenders only, the test na noise. Three Days Grace Home, Animal I've Become, Pain, Never Too Late, I Hate Every Thing About You Breaking Benjamin So Cold is the only track of theirs I like. A Perfect Circle Outsider (Apocalypse Remix), Weak and Powerless Avenged Sevenfold After life, Brompton Cocktail, Almost Easy, Nightmare, Seize The Day, Scream, Unbound The Wild Ride, A Little Piece of Heaven and Gunslinger. CrossFade So Cold, Colors Rammstein Ich Will Cavalera Conspiracy Killing Inside Lacuna Coil Secret, Heaven's A Lie, Swamped Within Temptation *can't remember for now* Evanescence Most of 'Fallen' and some of 'The Open Doors' album Disturbed Down With The Sickness, Forsaken, Inside The Fire, Static-X Cold, Not Meant For Me, Destroyer https://www.nairaland.com/1397333/let-share-hard-rock-tracks @Logicboy03 Na u I dey find wey I take reach here. You be coward o, I swear. Juju no dey kill na. @Vanessa Kai, you fine no be small. Hope say you dey lie for your Christian folks say na only gospel music full your iPod sha o. |
After you post your update, would reply you. |
peterphd: @ghostofspartaReplied. https://www.nairaland.com/961735/nigeria-better-off-leaders-swears/3#19530049 |
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Rossikk: Rubbish. All religions claim some sort of powers for their gods. Does your 'Jesus' not claim you can move mountains if only you believe? Oya go move mountain make we see na? Your bible even claims far many more miracles and magic occurrences than any African or Melanasian religion. including folks walking on water, rising from the dead, raising the dead, flying 'up' to heaven, virgins giving birth, men living inside whales for 40 days, men splitting oceans apart with walking stick, 'angels' flying around etc etc. Not ONE of these claims has ever been proven true.Guy, Abrahamic religions aside. With juju those feats are more than possible. If you no gree....oya here: https://www.nairaland.com/1510778/all-atheists-once-all. Hopw you won't do as logicboy03 and his mate did. |
macof: No, Ifa cannot be bribed. Orunmila cannot be bribed either. You know nothing about paganismPlease we shouldn't assume all paganism are the same by nature and outlook. You should have typed: You know nothing about Yoruba paganism. Truth be told the word paganism among several terms I hate to use because of their continual usage of it to connote evil, infidel, Satan, demon, juju etc. If you study my post in recent time, you will notice I use energy/forces/entities instead of spirit (because I don't believe in spirit), ancestral believe system instead of pagansim etc. Yoruba Advanced Science instead of juju or charm. I only use those alternatives when they more expresses an explanation given the context. We should not retain word taggings that have grown to be associated with the misconception of the true meaning of the native concept. For instance we don't the equivalent of demon in Yoruba, but today, even some pagan/traditional practitioners who have been persistently influenced by foreign religion, would tell you, if you ask, that an anjonu (an arabic revamped term derived from Al-jinn, inserted into the Yoruba vocab through Islam) is responsible for the function of certain jaz. Some christianly influenced one would say spirit. peterphd: There'll be so many dead men but how can one swear by a god that isn't of his origin? Does ayilala have power over an idoma person or even a white man? @ghostofspartaIf we can't use our native namings for them, I believe the best and closest we can use from the English language is deity. If I, a Yoruba swore an oath by an Igbira or a Calabar deity, or even at the presence of both. I believe I'm bind by the vows contained in my speech to them. But, however as it seems, it's like many of the deities whom are native to various ethnicity, possess higher level of authority within themselves. For instance, Ayilala, who is native and unique to certain locale, and responds to cases within the premise of, mostly indignation, can affect any human irrespective of race, ethnicity and tribe. But, since she's an Orisha would be less powerful if compared to the NB: if I were a Idoma I'd say Idoma Advanced Sciences. I'm saying this so as to not insinuate only the Yorubas have African Advanced Sciences known to the majority erroneously as juju. |
Mr Aboki: Funny stuff..Mr. Aboki you funny o. Appreciate your rib-cracking analogy. But come to think of it sef. Shebi all those feats you cited na tricks and illusions. People dey for Yorubaland here wey fit do pass tenfolds of wetin Jesus do. I have seen an illiterate with no education in a village sort-of-like environment proved his doubters wrong by claiming he also can walk on water. And he did it the next day. My brother he didn't use plexiglass o like them Criss Angel. This one na African Advanced Science wey some brainwashed people prefer to dey call 'juju power'. As for your Clifford Orji reference, he's too recent. Ever read about the Infamous Scottish cannibal by the name 'Sean Bean'? |
Ozichim: Jesus is God and He has prooved that there is God by the things He did.Where you there or told about the things he did, I would rather believe OdinAllfather who fulfilled his promise to wiped all the Ice Giants than Jesus who promised the end of all wicked people. ebonylady4real: wat religion do u practice? or u dont @ all?Must everything living practice a religion? IF your answer is Yes, then I'll like to know which religion do reptiles practice? Lincoln burrows: Is there any actual scientific proof that God does not exist?. O yakpa. There a countless scientific proof that Yah.weh aka Je.Hov do not exists. However, there are proof that will convince even the Pope that Sango, Amadioha and Ogun still exists. Lincoln burrows: Nearly every scientist agrees that the universe had a beginning. The most widely accepted explanation is the Big Bang theory or some variation of it. The question is: What made the bang? If you hear a noise you look for the cause for a little bang, then doesn't it also make sense that there would be a cause for the big bang? Stephen Hawking states, "Almost everyone now believes that the universe, and time itself, had a beginning at the Big Bang." Now let me ask you, "Suppose you suddenly hear a loud bang... and you ask me, 'What made that bang?' and I reply, 'Nothing, it just happened.' You would not accept that.".Okay if I get you correctly...So you are trying to usurp the efforts of science abi? Una no dey get shame sef. Haba! So na your Jewish God kon make big bang abi, a God that can't even defend his chosen people when the Nazis were gassing them death at Auschwitz, na him go kon dey responsible for big bang. Ode buruku. O ma kpinu. Why didn't your Abrahamic God revealed, or at least hinted about the Big Bang to those |
peterphd: Lol. I don't get the whole issh about orji.yes, I'm idoma and my village gods are so vindictiveThere are vindictive ones too in the Yoruba pantheon. Don't you think vindictive would be good for the Nigeria government as describe here: https://www.nairaland.com/961735/nigeria-better- off-leaders-swears |
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