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Culture › Re: Man Killed In Benin While Testing Charms’ Efficacy by ghostofsparta(m): 4:23pm On Jul 07, 2014

Jakumo: You know that's right. In my own modest efforts to educate people in Nigeria that ONLY a regular Kevlar vest will stop a bullet, I have blown a few chickens to red fragments with my trusty shotgun, to the utter dismay of spectating Juju-ologists who had festooned the test subjects with magic necklaces and other meaningless fetish crap, in the hopes of making them blast proof.

Unless you just so fancy how jakumo sound like to have used it as your username, I assume you are a Yoruba with some degree of Yoruba based knowledge to know that jakumo is a Yoruba word for Hyena which many Yorubas, perhaps Yoruba kids/youths of nowadays in Lagos do not know. To presume this is to as well place you on a level that you ought to be smart enough to have video-recorded your chicken-blasting adventures. Which I'm imploring you to post it on youtube for us to see, if you can't do that....well you need not bust your balls to be fabricating tales all in a bid to discredit what you think is impossible for I hereby ask you to accept an opportunity to witness the real deal. Other disbelieving Nairaland atheists can tag along with their HD camcorder.

To sweeten the offer, I had promised several Juju men that IF their "traditionally protected" chickens repelled my close-range blasts of hot buckshot, I would surrender my gun to the witch-doctors, and enroll under their tutelage as a paying student of Juju-Motive Technology. That shotgun still stands by my bedside in Nigeria, ready for action as needed, and still ALL mine, after all those tests carried out to see if African Magic really works proved ultimately that it does NOT work at all.

Who and who were the juju men you promised your non-existing buckshot if their quackery heresay knowledge of the real deal could have you fooled? Don't bring your fire-arm....if you and the rest are willing, eager and ready, we would seek Police permission and ask to provide us with two or so officer to monitor the test wherein an AK-47 held by an assigned to us will fire a chicken tied down. Two or three shots aimed to your satisfaction should be able to determine if this whole claim on the efficacy of ABP is true or false.

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Culture › Re: Man Killed In Benin While Testing Charms’ Efficacy by ghostofsparta(m): 3:39pm On Jul 07, 2014

Tolexander: Even in the qualitative pharmacological test, it isn't advisable to test the potency of a drug on human directly.

The idìot could have used a fowl for the testing rather than using himself.

Instead of him to rest in peace, he is now resting in pieces!

As a scientific researcher in the study of whatever mechanics various Yoruba Advanced Science eka juju functions...I have come to understand a lot which is just measly 0.5% of all the whole thing. Don't misconstrue me as I am not saying I am a dibia or a certified Babalawo or Onisegun...... I am a passionate pan africanist who has immense interest in the scientific approach our ancient ancestors took to achieve numerous tasks some of which would be deemed irrationaly unscientific in the purview of modern science.

That been said, I can say there are two forms of every given juju aka Youba Advanced Science...I call it

1. Tangible form: A physicallized configuration of an 'energized matter' usually in a belt-form (onde), arm-tie (ifunpa) etc. These types are what some erroneously referred to as juju which should not be so since it is french rendition of woo-woo i.e. Mumbo jumbo.
2. Non-tangible form: A internalized delivery of 'energized matter' mostly in the form of specific powdery-like compounds contactivated with esoteric utterances. Internalization may refer to ingestion of special potions, incision of a specific number of marks to a particular area of the body rubbed with an 'energized matter' and lastly exposure of the reciepient to forces awakened to be super-active at a particular time of the day or season. The non-tangible form often requires specific rites to be made during it process. Most importantly is that either form 1 or 2, they most of the time has consequences, conditions and repercussions if ceertain warnings or taboos have been violated.

That man that got shot and died probably just did a version of NTF which requires its user not to defy it by unnecessarily putting it to test. These sciences on anti-bullets are so numerous that modern science would exhaust if it dares attempts to rationalize how it works. I'm saying this because it is only one version out of many that I have been able to propose a scientific hypothesis to its manner of operation.

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Culture › Re: Man Killed In Benin While Testing Charms’ Efficacy by ghostofsparta(m): 2:43pm On Jul 07, 2014

Before I read this topic I need to say this

There will always be African Science Test failure greasing Nairaland frontpage but no Nigeria forum and media would ever laud or inform the world of any successful African Science test eka 'juju' that worked. All of you have been brainwashed to regard all things pertaining to the ways of our ancestral belief system including its advanced knowledge of mastery of the natural world as reproachable.

Shame on you all, except for macof, pagan9ja, folykaze, funtaherb and others

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Christianity Etc › Re: Where Will Mentally Ill People Go After Death? by ghostofsparta(m): 8:23am On Jul 06, 2014

Mad People go nowhere just like everybody else. But if your referring to the non-African concept of a ghost and or spirit or soul, to that of a mad person...then you need to rephrase your question properly before you get my answer.

Foreign Affairs › Re: Frank Onyeachonam, Yahoo Boy Jailed In London by ghostofsparta(m): 2:30am On Jul 05, 2014

@Shymexx and Coogar: What you guys meant by 'selling dreams to chics' and 'flossing' is actually idiosyncratic to defrauders emanating from a particular region of Nigeria. Does Tobechukwu ring any bell? How many years was he sentenced to in the US when he was eventually caught in Australia?

Christianity Etc › Re: Osanyin Worshipers Meet Here: May Osanyin Teach You Medicines Ase by ghostofsparta(m): 6:36pm On Jul 03, 2014

Optimisticgondy: This ABOUT ME is incomplete without your real name and your home or shrine address and I won't encourage anyone to patronise you without providing those information.

I stated to HighPriest nearly the same thing you said here

Optimisticgondy: Remember we are in Nigeria and many people have been scammed with traditional "formats" like this in the past.

What do you mean in the past, lots of fraudsters are still scamming ignorant people today, tricking the gullible with their sweet mouth. Yes I agree with you, anyone who knows he's genuine should provide his name, name of office and its address of operation so it can be verified with Ifa Council or any other recognized traditional council in Yorubaland.

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Christianity Etc › Re: Osanyin Worshipers Meet Here: May Osanyin Teach You Medicines Ase by ghostofsparta(m): 6:32pm On Jul 03, 2014

@HighPriest

Wow! there are uncountable esoteric knowledge surrounding our Yoruba Belief System, in as much as I admire your input in promoting isese on Nairaland, I am disheartened by your correlation of Freemasonry with our indigenous Oriṣa/Ifa/Iṣegun belief system, the both are entirely incompatible. One is centered on a closely-guarded ersatz philosophy only an initiate is privy to, while Ifa and Oriṣa ways which encompasses all subject under the sun and beyond are open to all and sundry to learn and obtain wisdom, guidance, solution to the complex of problems, supernatural powers etc from. Only the really deep and adept knows certain secret not meant for all, which can't be said of the Freemasons. I am not disapproving Freemason and whatever they stand for, but they aren't on the same pedestal with our Yoruba indigenous belief system.

And again, while typing your orikis and ọfọs, endeavor to mark them. It will help.

Can you explain the difference between Osayin and Babaji? Are they still the same deity but with just different names?

Did you read one recent edition of Alaroye where it reported an incident in Ondo about a potent Osayin that went haywire or out of control, and killed I think two people and rendered it priestess insane? If you did, what do you think went wrong? Did someone or the priestess herself mistakenly gave it its ewọ? According to the report, the OPC were asking for a certain amount of money to placate the Osayin energy, but it was another sound Osayin female master who came to do whatever is required to stabilize it. Why are there lots of fake Osayin so-called masters?

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Foreign Affairs › Re: China Bans Muslim Officials From Observing Ramadan by ghostofsparta(m): 12:42pm On Jul 03, 2014

sanandreas: People have the right to worship. China is infringing on Muslims right.

People have the right to worship so you can easily say, and yet you state China is infringing on Muslim right to worship....on CHINESE LAND! Can any Islamist nation like Saudi Arabia, Iran and Pakistan allow or tolerate pagan Chinese to worship their ancestral deities Buddha etc and build their pagan temple on their land?

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Politics › Re: Bomb Explosion In Kaduna by ghostofsparta(m): 12:17am On Jul 02, 2014

[quote author=Yakubu.A]You are quoting this verse out of context: The verse is referring to the pagans of Makkah at that time. The pagans of Makkah at that time used to attacked the Muslims but the Muslims could not fight back because Allah did not permit them to fight back. This verse permitted them to take revenge. I am sure you have seen the conditions yourself.[/quote][size=18pt]Either it is quoted out of context or not, the reality still remain that religious fanatics can cite any of this instigating verses from their so called Holly Books to justify whatever extremist action they carry out. It is from this so called religions of ~~peace~~war, ~~submission~~indoctrination and ~~absolution~~sin-encouraging that adolescents are continually brainwashed till adulthood to accept a bronze-age method of solving human problem as standard and leaving all things to Yawheh/Allah. That's the point. Solution is - all Abrahamic religions should be extricated off West Africa if not the whole of Africa, for the negroid continent to experience peace. Period. Any brain washed black African who find it difficult to shed off the need to be robo-acting in accordance to the mental pre-programming of the then Euro-Arab slave masters should relocate to the middle-east; Israel, Pakistan, Iraq, SaudiArabia, Iran are among many options.[/size]

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Christianity Etc › Re: Osanyin Worshipers Meet Here: May Osanyin Teach You Medicines Ase by ghostofsparta(m): 11:45pm On Jul 01, 2014

Tell me more about what you know on Osayin - The Deity governing all things medicinal both in herbal-pharmaceutics, supernatural and beyond.

Is this rite of beginning for general ỌFỌ incantation correct?

Mo juba lọwọ Olu bikin to kọkọ jawé
Mo juba lọwọ Ọsọyin to kọ wa lo
Mo juba lọwọ ẹyin Iya Aṣakẹ, Apakẹ, Alakẹ alagogo idẹ
Ẹyin Iya arogba asọ makan lẹ
Mo ṣe iba lọwọ Olugbohun Arikẹ
Mo ṣe iba lọwọ osẹyin gbohun Aṣakẹ

There are many relationship between Orunmilla and Osayin, care to tell me the ones you know?

Christianity Etc › Re: How To Prepare Gun Medicine, Cutlass Medicine & Knife Medicine by ghostofsparta(m): 2:59pm On Jun 30, 2014*

-@F0LYKAZE
I hereby beg you to please ignore Baba(Jeovah/Allah)noni. The more his trolling is entertained by your replies, the more he feels relevant here until he gathers enough attention to draws other Abrahamists blacks to defend their un-African religions of their slave masters.

@BabaGnoni
Unless your plan is to deliberately divert this topic into another boiler of needless arguments where you and other soon-to-join Abrahamic religionists can stir it with pointless and uninformative anecdotes [like which non-African prophets is the truest or which of the three middle-eastern religions is superior], then you should know this kind of thread is obviously not for atheists who do not believe in the Yoruban supernaturalistic possibilities nor our Gods for that matter and judachrisla indoctrinates like you who are bent on blurting their Book based dogmas. By posting Biblical verses has not tarnish HighPriest as it seems your intention is. HighPriest is selfless enough to present to the public ancient Yoruba Advanced Science secret formula that not every Tom, Dick and Harry are meant to know and you think by posting impotent verses from a book that if it burnt or torn to be used as a toilet tissue, the only way yawheh/illah can't defend their fictitious existence is by justifying extremists to kill atheists and pagans.

@HighPriest
First of all, I am 100% certain that those lines of incantations you posted would not make the YAS work unless they are perfectly uttered in the Yoruba language. Secondly, you are not suppose to be doing this. Normally, those who do this kind of thing are not certified practitioners who belong to no cross-checkable Ifa and Ishegun outfit or temples which are numerous throughout Yorubaland, at worst it's only an 'adahunshe' that do those kind of thing you created this post for, in the eyes of the real practitioners here on Nairaland who knows the ethics and norms of esoteric sciences, you could be deem as a scammer/quacks who do this kind of a thing to lure gullible people and those who have tinge for African esotericism but would eventually be blackmailed into diabolic rituals such as those involving human part sacrifice among others that demonize what African Traditional Religion stands for. I will advise you and anyone not to do this kind of thing next time unless you state the name and address of your temple as can be verified by anyone. I am not an enforcer, nor yet a certified practitioner, I just want both side to be cautious when dealing with Yoruba esotericsm.

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Culture › Re: Oduduwa Ateworo by ghostofsparta(m): 7:44pm On Jan 10, 2014*

Shame on all you all.
You are all so inferior-feeling to be analyzing and concluding that these Yoruba deities 'Odudua' etc come from Nubia, Mecca, Mesopotamia, Egypt, Babylonia etc - names of places stated nowhere within the ultimate literal corpus of ancient Yorubas; IFA: The authority of the Yoruba origin and every human race. When in fact it's the other way round. Ifa states in some verses that all human being originates from the ethereal Otu-Ife and not Ile-Ife the physical location in Osun State which many have been led to believe.

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Christianity Etc › Re: Ifa Heritage University, Oyo & Prof. Wande Abimbola by ghostofsparta(m): 12:35am On Jan 06, 2014

MamiWata: Most certainly. There are a lot of pics of this guy with white "initiates." Suspect to me.

That's her wife, Iyanifa Ajisebo Wande Abimbola. She's speaks seven languages fluently. She currently teaches Portuguese and Spanish in the school. She is the mother of the little boy 'Iroko' in the first picture who is a reincarnate of Prof. Wande Abimbola's father.

Christianity Etc › Re: Ifa Heritage University, Oyo & Prof. Wande Abimbola by ghostofsparta(m): 12:21am On Jan 06, 2014

Orikinla: Forever in Christ Jesus our Lord and Messiah.

Lest you forget, Ifa recognized Jesus Christ as the Word of God that became flesh.
If you doubt me, consult Ifa.

In what Odu did Ifa recognize the Jew Jesus Christ whose existence are debated by certain whites. Ifa didn't recognize Buddha or Shinto both of whom even predated Jesus.

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Christianity Etc › Re: Student's Forced Haircut Caused Death of Teacher. For Atheists And Religionists. by ghostofsparta(op): 11:36pm On Jan 05, 2014

melodies: Fools go where angels fear 2 tread.
Not all kids r really kids, God have mercy.

The issue is not about kids, but about human super-abilities.

Christianity Etc › Student's Forced Haircut Caused Death of Teacher. For Atheists And Religionists. by ghostofsparta(op): 10:49pm On Jan 05, 2014

A female school student, Sekina Adeosun is been discussed right now on 'Akamara', a Yoruba radio talk show on 94.1 Rainbow FM, you can call the show right now on 08099419418, 080080332991, 080078990755. Sekina Adeosun of Ile Oluji, Ondo State warned her teachers that it is abominable for her to have her hair cut when the school requires all pupils to wear a low-cut. Her hair has always been plaited, braided or woven. A teacher by the name Mr. Jacob called six other students to hold her down and forcefully shaved her hair. Within 24 hours, Mr. Jacob suddenly became ill and died while the rest of the students are on their sick beds now. A recorded voice interview of the female student was played on the program and she said when asked how can she explain what happened. "It is the Agbas who are involved". For the six students to be recovered from their illness, each one of them have to provide six goats "whose back can carry igba (calabash)", six pigs and other items.

The presenter of the program can be reached on: 07033301919

Christianity Etc › Re: Can An Atheist Be A Prophet? by ghostofsparta(m): 9:14pm On Dec 13, 2013

What a funny thread. AmanfromMars got good agbalhumour. Especially the ones I liked.

Culture › Babalawos Are Not Supposed To Be Very Rich Nor Are They Poor by ghostofsparta(op): 8:13am On Dec 13, 2013

Madam speaker: Have you ever wondered why all these ritualists and babalawos still remain poor even though they make others get rich overnight?... Many people go to them for help to become rich or get one thing or the other...i wonder why their customers dont ask them this question... Pls why are they still poor?

The number of threads on this forum on topics that distorts and dilute several aspect of indigenous believe system (especially that of the Yoruba/Odudua origin) are so much than I can respond to, it pains me when I imagine the sorts of untruths and falsehood they dish out to those who don't know anything but care to read. I just tried to muster up some strength to type you a respond for the sake of others. Your question is not a new one, it's an old and stale one, it's the most favourite question adherents of Abrahamic religions here in Nigeria love throwing around to score a seemingly logical point, all in their unrelenting bid to discredit and downplay practitioners of ancestral believe system in this part of the world. First of all, I will assume you to be one among the 90% of Nigerians who think they know or understand who a Babalawo is, or what the title 'Babalawo' means. Many always ignorantly refer to an Onisegun and an Adahunse as 'Babalawo'. It's a big error many of you keep making and it is a reflection of how culturally uneducated our peoples are, especially many Yorubas when it comes to true traditional education. I'm not bragging to know all or everything but I conduct my researches deeply using deconstructive analysis to construct an understanding out of the complex believe system of my ancestors. Ever since on Nairaland, I have always detect and point out misconceptions, false presumptions and errors in many statements and interpretations from both those who don't know but think they know and those who know. The problem lies in the impossibility of translating precisely many aspects of Yoruba cosmogony as contained in Ifa, into the English language. For instance it erroneous to say "Odudua fell from heaven", Ifa states 'Odudua atewon ro', some traditionally educated ones on Nairaland may translate it as 'Odudua descended from heaven' which is very incorrect because 'Heaven'; a paradisical abode for the righteous is an Abrahamic concept intrinsic to Christianity, Islam(Jannah) and Judaism(Shamayim) just like the notion of Elysium, Nirvana and Ganghes, Valhalla are only exclusive to the Greek, Chinese, Hindus and Scandinavian respectively. Some may translate it as 'Odudua climbed down from the sky' which is quite up to it but still incorrect because one need to understand that the idea of deities residing and descending from a location that is usually skyward is un- African, it is a concept which was gradually infused into our believe system to which even most native practitioners today, while trying to explain somethings to a questioner unknowingly tend to use English 'terms' that doesn't exactly transliterate to what they indeed want to clarify, hence the listener processing the information within the context of Abrahamic faith. Since Orun is sky, Ofurufu is cloud, the correct translation is 'Odudua manifested from Orun', Orun refers to Ajule-orun which is the same as Ikole-orun. It is not the same as the Christian 'Heaven'.

Back to the topic, a BABALAWO is a strong title whose meaning encompasses lot of privileges, in my book, I describe the title as The Keeper of Secrets and Custodian of esoteric knowledges while ONISEGUNS are Practitioners of Supernatural magic.

Madam speaker: Have you ever wondered why all these ritualists and babalawos still remain poor even though they make others get rich overnight?... Many people go to them for help to become rich or get one thing or the other...i wonder why their customers dont ask them this question... Pls why are they still poor?

What's your definition of poor? If by poor, you mean stupendous wealth, well then I would say that there are Babalawos who do have, although very few, and some who doesn't desire wealth as such. Another thing you are obviously ignorant of is the underlying complex principle guiding the conditions getting rich without any legit effort. Check out this link for more info.

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Culture › Re: Why Do Babalawos And Other Ritualists Still Remain Poor? by ghostofsparta(m): 8:10am On Dec 13, 2013*

Madam speaker: Have you ever wondered why all these ritualists and babalawos still remain poor even though they make others get rich overnight?... Many people go to them for help to become rich or get one thing or the other...i wonder why their customers dont ask them this question... Pls why are they still poor?

Christianity Etc › Re: Pagan9ja, Macof, Ifeness, FOLYKASE Why Do Most Think Low Of Our African Sciences by ghostofsparta(op): 3:17pm On Dec 10, 2013

Logicboy03: Lol.....this is madness.

You are even brainwashed more than some christians.

Guy, the only alliance I have with you is that I respect ur traditions out of heritage.....other than that, your local advanced science is BULLSHITE!

You are confusing an aspect of our ~~religion~~ ancestral believe system with traditions which are two entirely different qualities, it's quite difficult for those who have some ground knowledge on ATR to quickly grasp what I have been espousing all this, much less of a self de-converted catholic convert who surely must still have traces of imbibed Abrahamic worldview regarding anything metaphysical. Vodka is traditional to the Scandinavians and Russians just like 'emu' (palm wine) is traditional to us here. Tradition, to me, is a collection of customs, rites and culture, altogether identifying into a uniqueness of that particular group. Having state that, it is completely different from supernatural effects made possible through the application of certain esoteric knowledges owned and developed over the centuries and passed down among qualified few of succeeding generations, something of which I have come to see as the African approach to science, for which as a Yoruba, saw every reason to term that of ours 'Yoruba Advanced Sciences' mistakenly called magic (i.e. the supernatural type) and of which is still derogatory been referred to as juju.

By “brainwashed” I'm sure you are doubting my consistent believe in the efficacy of these said Yoruba Advanced Sciences. Have you so soon forgot the 2 or 3 threads I created for you and other admirable atheists on this forum to discuss and agree on one of the several listed advanced sciences you all constantly express disbelieve in, base on superstitions, irrationally unscientific and first hand eye witness verification. I specifically asked you to honour my offer where an up close and personal demonstration would be performed to you accompanied by one or more atheists on this forum where you may shoot with your camera for other Nairaland viewers. But instead all your atheist cronies fled only for you to come at last and typed:

macof: new thread?

No, cos not necessary. It won't change their mindset of striving to make the Abrahamic heaven.

Logicboy03: Sorry Ghostofsparta.......I have been running away

African jazz aint my thing

Naaah! You don't need to be sorry. Just didn't know atheists too can be scared of advanced African sciences, erroneously called juju.

https://www.nairaland.com/1510778/all-atheists-once-all/9#19643756

Christianity Etc › Re: Questions And Answers For Atheist by ghostofsparta(m): 1:41pm On Dec 10, 2013

Divepen: They can,if they change their ways and accept Jesus as their lord and savior.

So therefore your forefathers who were into their ancestral believe systems that the same foreigners whose religions you're into, labelled 'pagans' are in hell just like the pagan Asians are going to be, just for not knowing and accepting Jesus as their personal lord and savior.

Divepen if you are looking for a strong atheist to debate, I doubt if you can stand 'rudedough' take your challenge to him. He's always looking for someone like you to chew.
https://www.nairaland.com/rudedough

Christianity Etc › Pagan9ja, Macof, Ifeness, FOLYKASE Why Do Most Think Low Of Our African Sciences by ghostofsparta(op): 2:04am On Dec 10, 2013*

DK Jaleel: 250yrs ago, our ancestors had the ability to travel anywhere within minutes, before those guys even dreamt of using ordinary wagon...

maclatunji: But...but even with all of this "superior technology" of our ancestors, the Europeans still defeated them.

DK Jaleel: how that happened is still a mystery...

DK Jaleel: 250yrs ago, our ancestors had the ability to travel anywhere within minutes, before those guys even dreamt of using ordinary wagon...

That's a misconception. Not everyone constituting as our ancestors could do those feat, if I'm right about what I think you are referring to. Only very few members of clan under a tribe under an ethnicity belonging to a race who are master or have mastered or have been initiated into certain aspect of a particular aspect within a branch of what I am sure should be termed African sciences.

maclatunji: But...but even with all of this "superior technology" of our ancestors, the Europeans still defeated them.

And I thought you were intelligent, does technological superiority assures victory and even if it does, must it necessary be channeled for conquest? Subdue those perceived to be weak? Go and read Gwen Dyer 'War'.

DK Jaleel: how that happened is still a mystery...

There's no mystery. Folks in southern part of Nigeria just acquire education, only extremely few can analyse. You and MacLatunji should process this:

Premise 1: (FACT): America/Europe have nuclear arsenal today.

Premise 2: (SUPPOSITION): Invading aliens from outerspace armed with antiquated technologies and weapons, but used a kind of manipulations and deceptions never experienced before to invade, subdue, colonize and brainwash Euro-america.

Premise 3 (A FUTURE MUST):
Bob: “Our ancestors had means of fast transporting themselves using aircrafts, some were even developing means of nuclear powered types to safely covers lengthy distance in seconds”
Harry: “Shut up, if our forefathers had nuclear capability, why then were they
defeated?”
Bob: How that happened is still a mystery.

Point is, not everyone had access to powerful African science such as the teleport juju which the Yorubas call 'ofe' just like not every European or American person have access to nuclear warhead. Another fact is most of ancestral forefathers hoarded numerous esoteric knowledge (african science eka juju)

Properties › Re: BBC Replies - "Ever Seen A Well-Built African House On BBC?" by ghostofsparta(m): 1:32am On Dec 10, 2013*

DK Jaleel: 250yrs ago, our ancestors had the ability to travel anywhere within minutes, before those guys even dreamt of using ordinary wagon...

maclatunji: But...but even with all of this "superior technology" of our ancestors, the Europeans still defeated them.

DK Jaleel: how that happened is still a mystery...

DK Jaleel: 250yrs ago, our ancestors had the ability to travel anywhere within minutes, before those guys even dreamt of using ordinary wagon...

maclatunji: But...but even with all of this "superior technology" of our ancestors, the Europeans still defeated them.

DK Jaleel: how that happened is still a mystery...

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Christianity Etc › Re: Inviting Tithers To A Theological Discuss with Miwerds and Candour On Tithing by ghostofsparta(m): 8:55am On Dec 08, 2013

rudedough: Sure. Feel free to answer any question. It's an open discuss after all and hey, Rudedough is an Atheist who likes to learn about religion.

https://www.nairaland.com/1544485/nelson-mandela-dead/24#20071206

Foreign Affairs › Re: Nelson Mandela Is Dead by ghostofsparta(m): 3:33am On Dec 08, 2013

rudedough: ... cos I have greater respect for Mandela than your God.[/size][/b]

rudedough: You don't get what we are saying here.

You and your friend may be right but this is not the right time nor the right thread to voice this opinion.

Have some respect for the dead.[/b]

Rudedough, in as much as I follow and agree with many of your brutely unapologetical well-informed responses on various threads on this forum, I think you've unknowingly shot yourself in the leg regarding your quoted and bolded reply above. First of all, as you may know-I'm not an atheist but I naturally conceive reasoning that are atheistic in respect to semitic deities, likewise I do share many atheistic viewpoints towards abrahamic religions and claims. Regardless of my stand, I'd like to point out that you have goofed without realizing it as I'm very sure atheism rejects all eschatological doctrines based on the unavailability of proof hence considered scientifically illogical; particularly the ressurrection of the dead for judgment on judgment day (Christianity) including any other model of life after death expressed in other believe systems. Scientifically I agree that when any life form dies, no matter how complex, all it organic components cease function. As a scientist which I believe you are, and an atheist for that matter, why treat a corpse (Nelson Mandela's) as though he would continue on living somewhere unknown to you and I (perhaps maybe known to some religionists). By stating "Have some respect for the dead", just like many who say it, have knowingly indirectly acknowledge or knowingly assume that a departed person somehow, somewhere still lingers on in another type of existence by mere usage of the term "the dead". This is not about how credible an atheist you claim to be, since I sure think it was probably borne out of fandom, hope you do get my point because there are very sensitive member like me and Obadiah777 who could get a wrong signal.

Christianity Etc › Macof, Let's Discuss. by ghostofsparta(op): 7:00pm On Dec 05, 2013

You said: "Islam and christianity would soon be a thing of the past in Nigerian territory" I'd like to know how that could ever happen in a country where these Abrahamic religions have turned majority of its citizens into androids who are programmed to think nothing makes sense if not derived, inspired and approved by the Bible or Quran. Today, in a teaching environment, a physics teacher, during an argument said "all scientific attempt to know about things only God can do is satanic" he said if science so much believed in evolution, how come did sperm come to be, further said "make scientists kon create sperm na, if dem fit explain everything". We argued over several issues, including the atheist's view concerning the existence of God, and as I expected, he assumed I am one to be using certain logic (I'm sure he has never encountered before) to debunk many of his christian religion based claims.

After we wrestled over several subjects bothering on science and technology. In yet another digressed religious argument, I had to bring him to 'human cloning' to score a point, but it was when he pointed to the office desktop PC that I realised all the science terms and topics which I've been dropping here and there while all the arguments lasted where things that turned out he knows nothing about and some he obviously misunderstood, even in it basic. It took a lot while for me to explain that 'biological cloning' is not the same as the cloning of a desktop PC he pointed to. You can see that these are the types of people that constitute majority in this country. His counter argument had been that no way could scientists create humans being by duplicating humans (he's understanding of cloning). Now imagine explaining to the same guy about 'akudaya' or 'omotunde' from Ifa corpus, he'd reject it since it doesn't filter through his christian brainwashing.

I tried to explain why atheists (here and abroad) won't believe in the possible existence of a God, is because they too, are making the same mistakes Christian and Muslims here in Nigeria are making in assuming that all believe system referring to the idea of a G O D all share the same conception of God in terms of known attributes, which in fact they unknowingly don't. Without delving into that, let me know how you think our people would one day shed off their addiction to semitic deities, and I will tell you why they possible can't.

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Christianity Etc › Re: Some Muslims Will Make Heaven While Some Christians Will Not. by ghostofsparta(m): 1:11am On Dec 01, 2013*

macof: God approves all religions, and we all worship God; just through
Different paths, that is why Ethnicity and culture should go along wit spirituality, everyone should be pagan and free themselves from foreign brainwash and sire.

I slightly disagree with you there^ as we don't worship the same God. Even if so, our pagan God(whose name differs ethnically; Eledua/Osanobua/Ubangiji/ChukwUorChineke/Abasi) is far superiorly well ~~conceived~~ revealed to us via Ifa and its messengers (Orishas and the Irunmoles) and unlike theirs male-gendered God(Yahweh/Allah) who always require believers to defend his existence through killings as it is historically described in the crusades, jihads, inquisitions, heresy, slavery, dogmas, creed, doctrinations, proselytizings. Our pagan God don't require any malevolent means nor theatrical shrines (churches,synagogues,mosques) to prove it exist, all anyone need do is to just desecrate any of his messenger's shrine like Ayilala, Amadioha, Shango, Eshu and Ogun etc... May I remind you, as you all know for sure that not a single devotee nor priest will shout "Shangoakbar
" and slaughter you....but it is assured something supernatural would happen to the desecrator.

macof: paganism is simply practicing the beliefs synonymous wit ur ethnicity, that OIS how it was when God created man, why are men destroying the world?

Do you therefore mean, Allah of Islam is a paganic to the Arab race/ethnic just like Yahweh/Jeovah is paganic to the Jews? Because nevertheless both of 'em are still fake for needing humans to defend their existence and one of which couldn't come to the aid of 6million Jews getting gassed during the holocaust. Such a thing can never happen to the then pagan Yorubas, a mad fascist dictator would be ordering them to enter gas chamber to die in droves, awon temi oni fi oruka gbagbo gbo won ku danu...the knowledge of the oruka is from one of our pagan god (Osayin) who like the rest in the Yoruba pantheon, is a subject to our pagan supreme God (Eledua/Eleduumare/Olodumare)

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Christianity Etc › Re: Some Muslims Will Make Heaven While Some Christians Will Not. by ghostofsparta(m): 12:40am On Dec 01, 2013

macof: This is precisely wat I am saying.

Imagine a Nigerian(of wat ever ethnic origin ) requiring an Arab book to think.

The same way some idiotic yorubas live to die for koran and bible when their fathers used Ifa to understand God, and here many of you are arguing about christianity and Islam.

Had yorubaland never been open to foreign evangelistic mobs we would all be glorious pagans serving the Gods of our ancestors.

If you hate ur ancestors change ur identity and relocate to Saudi Arabia, where Islam is of the land.
Here in Nigeria, We pagans shouldn't have to deal wit such degrading insults from bastard children like u

@bolded^

Not only that, they (Yoruba Christians and Muslims) all should stop their hypocrisy by refusing to continue eating our ancestral foods (eba/amala/iyon etc) which are all associated with our orishas and irunmoles. Afterall they prefer and are glad to bear and give their children foreign Christian and Arabic name. Then, they should desist from eating native/pagan foods.

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Computers › Re: Unlock Huawei E303 Modem And All Stubborn Modem Unlock Difficulties Solved! by ghostofsparta(m): 1:35pm On Nov 29, 2013

femi4: Glo e303 can't be unlock

What about MTN E303-1s ?
Here is the info:
IMEI: 867648010065959
S/n: U9CBYA9270709658

TV/Movies › Re: Will You Pay To Watch A Nigerian Cinema Movie? by ghostofsparta(m): 9:53am On Nov 27, 2013

rudedough: [b]I'll ignore your questions, they're irrelevant.

My take is that Nigerians don't know how to run a business. Nigerians still think business is all about buying and selling to make profit No knowledge of business continuity or improvement.

NTA for example still uses the same cameras since 1960.

Nollywood don't send their actors for training exercises. No profession development courses etc.

No partnership with foreign film makers to understand how the industry work in the 21sr century.

They don't care about logistics (Movie review, suggestions, end user complaints, movie screening etc.)

Plagiarised scripts are a norm in Nollywood when producer A has the same movie script with producer B.

Producers don't like to spend money in film production despite that they have produced more that 100 movies in the past and made a lot of money from it.

They don't improve their equipment, same ol'cameras, costumes, tomato sauce blood.

Any jobless man can just port into acting as long as he knows someone in the movie industry.

No specialisation in acting roles in Nollywood. Emeka Ike can act love today, armed robber tomorrow, police man the next day, ritualist another day etc.

No use of green screen software / effects. Same white garment wearing powdered face spirit that looks left and right before he crosses the road.

Nollywood just doesn't know what business continuity means. I'll rather play baba ijebu with my money than buy/rent/see a Nigeria movie.[/b]

^
SO

ON

POINT

Nigerian moviemakers are in it for the quick money, no passion to deliver quality stuff. Tade Ogidan and Tunde Kilani are exceptional.

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Christianity Etc › Re: Woman Gets A Call And Text Messages From 'Satan' by ghostofsparta(m): 6:48pm On Nov 25, 2013

ifeness: I doubt she would panic if she hadn't been brainwashed with the bible. If satan now calls people,yahweh should reveal himself if he truly exists.

SIMPLE

LOGIC

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