Christianity Etc › Re: Happy Birthday Pastor Adeboye; Pls Sell Your Private Jet And Increase Salaries… by gohf: 8:29am On Mar 02, 2025 |
Daejumong: Pastor Adeboye emptied his account as a lecturer to support the RCCG under Pastor Akindayomi. This uncommon selfless love for God brought forth many great blessings including his divine selection as the next general overseer of the church!
In his early days as general overseer,people blessed him with luxurious cars and gifts which he either rejected or sold to help other pastors or put back in the ministry! At that time in the 80s and 90s, you could not differentiate Adeboye from his other pastors. You need to see the raw demonstration of the power of God in his life then! Camp then was like heaven on earth! You need to hear the jaw dropping real testimonies!
Fast forward to the 2000s, he started accepting gifts of luxury cars, private jets and helicopters. I guess his rich members put pressure on him and he sadly caved in and started living a life of luxury while his junior pastors in local branches earned peanuts!
Did u notice that most of Adeboye’s powerful testimonies were things that happened in the 80’s and 90’s. That was when the move of God was extra powerful! What we see now is small compared to the past. Yes the church size might have increased but has holiness, righteous living and the move/power of God increased?
My humble advice to Pastor Adeboye as he enters the twilight of his journey is that he should please sell his private jet,helicopter and luxury vehicles and use the money to increase the salary of all his pastors to a minimum of N300,000($200) a month! He should set up a financial committee to oversee the income of the church and ensure that monies are distributed equally to all parishes to take care of the people( just like the apostles did). If the apostles could eradicate poverty in the church during their time, I believe Adeboye can do same.
God loves all His children equally whether GO or cleaner! A system that makes one person a King and the others paupers is Not of God! Such an environment would limit His power! Jesus and the Apostles lived like common men. They were not superstars or very rich! Abraham, David, Solomon and the men in the Old Testament who were very wealthy were not Christians and had many unchristian behaviours.
Matt 8:20 Jesus replied, "Foxes have holes and birds of the air have nests, but the Son of Man has no place to lay his head."
Daejumong 28/02/2025 lol when Saul gave in to pressure and took what he should not, God rejected him as king and choose someone else. There are certain things like what you wrote above that won't happen in RCCG, I recall when his wife spoke against "ashuebi" it didn't stop any of the women from continuing even expensive ashuebi. Sadly the said "policy" for pastor's payment and priority for their expenses would be different from him personally dashing pastors money from his personal possessions and account. Besides Adeboye has already defended his use of jets that a global church can't be overseed on a bicycle. Same way RCCG can't stop collecting tithe because you can imagine if they repent from it, how will they restitute it 😂. There are some "pasts" that can't be returned to, that's if that past was even built on Christ Jesus and not on personal goal which has now been fulfilled |
Christianity Etc › Re: “why I Stopped Going To Church – My Painful Experience With RCCG” by gohf: 8:15am On Mar 02, 2025 |
immortalcrown: You stopped going to Church because you do not understand that God wants us to always come together to worship him.
Hebrew 10:25 says, "Let us not neglect meeting together, as some have made a habit, but let us encourage one another, and all the more as you see the Day approaching."
Church leaders being materialistic cannot make me withdraw from the congregation unless they point a gun at me when I refuse to give them my money. Also, if I consider the leadership of a Church unbearable and withdraw myself from the congregation, I will join another Church.
The point is that it is biblically wrong for a Christian to withdraw from the congregation and go solo in worshipping God. the kind of people Hebrews was referring to is sadly not the same with those the OP departed from. You can't be fellowshiping with wolves and not get devoured or becomes like one in time and when you say it is biblically wrong, you are actually biblically wrong. Jesus said those who worship God in spirit and in truth. Your fellowship isn't about numbers or people but about the sweet fellowship of the Holy Spirit |
Christianity Etc › Re: “why I Stopped Going To Church – My Painful Experience With RCCG” by gohf: 8:12am On Mar 02, 2025 |
GanagiBitrus: Sad. But Fellowship is still very important to your faith. the right fellowship not the wrong one, better to fellowship with the Holy Spirit than with a den of thieves and wolves |
Christianity Etc › Re: “why I Stopped Going To Church – My Painful Experience With RCCG” by gohf: 8:10am On Mar 02, 2025 |
alphonsojaybaz: My name is Alphonso Olajide, co-founder of EyesOfLagos.com. I’m a blogger and web developer, and today, I want to share my heartbreaking story.
On July 27, 2024, I lost my beloved brother to kidney failure. He was a dedicated pastor at a Redeemed Christian Church of God (RCCG) parish in Ahmadiya. For nearly five years, he served the church with his time, energy, and personal resources. But when tragedy struck, the same church he gave so much to turned its back on him.
When my family approached RCCG for a burial space at their cemetery, we expected compassion. Instead, they asked us to pay nearly one million Naira to lay him to rest. Their excuse? “It’s the system.”
Where was the love? Where was the support for a man who had given his all to this church? Back in March, when my brother was fighting for his life, he was taken to Pastor Adeboye. All they gave him was anointing oil.
This experience broke me. It opened my eyes. I can no longer support a system that values money over people. This is why I have stopped going to church—I choose to pray directly to God.
To anyone still blindly giving their hard-earned money to these churches, think twice. My brother’s story is proof that when you need them the most, they might not be there for you.
May God judge those who humiliated him after all his years of service.
https://eyesoflagos.com/2025/03/02/why-i-stopped-going-to-church-my-painful-experience-with-rccg/ it's because you now have a personal experience, if you had heard or read other people's experience would you have believed it? Well there system may prevent poor people from being buried on their grounds not like RCCG is a cemetery but as a pastor that response is cold sha, guess 5years is not enough for a graveyard on their grounds. There are other better reasons to stay or leave RCCG, the most important question now is if your brother is resting in the arms of God |
Christianity Etc › Re: Is It Adultery If A Christian Bachelor Marries Two Women Or Virgins At A Time? by gohf: 8:03am On Mar 02, 2025 |
FreeSpirited: Trust me, some of us aren't sharing our comments or views because of a need to fornicate or commit adultery. It's just a need to know the real undivided truth devoid of assumptions, without attempting to pursue an ideal that was never really inferred in the scriptures....which we by ourselves made conclusion for. You will be shocked some of us are heavily anointed and have overcome the spirit of lust and fornication that estranged us from God in our earlier years. I will say make sure you live true to ur claims of perfection and not just glory in perfection in a virtual internet world while being tormented by sexual lust in real life . lol do you mind him, some of us just prefer to have one wife because we just have energy for that one lol but because we don't go round judging and condemning others we have turn "adulterers" |
Christianity Etc › Re: How strong is your faith in God? by gohf: 8:00am On Mar 02, 2025 |
It can go from 30 to 100, depending on remembering God's word to clearly hearing from God which makes one full of faith. |
Christianity Etc › Re: RCCG Offers Free Surgeries, Dialysis To Mark Adeboye’s 83rd Birthday by gohf: 3:34pm On Mar 01, 2025 |
"which have impacted over 166 million lives and executed over 990,000 projects."
166million 😳, can't be Nigerians, maybe globally because hmm 😁 and 990k projects hope church building wasn't counted in that number 🤭
Well millions of Nigerians have indeed being impacted by rccg church project offerings and tithe, with Lagos streets have two or more rccg churchs in some streets and areas |
Christianity Etc › Re: Don’t Be Afraid To Correct Adeboye, Kumuyi, Oyedepo, Olukoya , Jerry Eze, Selman by gohf: 2:22pm On Mar 01, 2025 |
CodeTemplar: What was Jesus' reply to Matt 16:22 ? Matt.16.23 But he turned, and said unto Peter, Get thee behind me, Satan: thou art an offence unto me: for thou savourest not the things that be of God, but those that be of men. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Pastor Enoch Adeboye's 83rd Birthday by gohf: 2:19pm On Mar 01, 2025*. Modified: 9:32am On Mar 02, 2025 |
Front page tomorrow things  May God celebrate you as well on the last day, may you correct and do what is right before you leave in Jesus name. |
Christianity Etc › Re: The Transfiguration And The Identity Of Christ by gohf(op): 8:17am On Mar 01, 2025 |
May your eyes be opened to see the glory of Christ Jesus, the son of God |
Christianity Etc › Re: Abraham Left 90% To The Captives by gohf(op): 8:15am On Mar 01, 2025 |
2Cor.8.12-13 If you are really eager to give, it isn't important how much you are able to give. God wants you to give what you have, not what you don't have. Of course, I don't mean you should give so much that you suffer from having too little. I only mean that there should be some equality.
2Cor.9.7 You must each make up your own mind as to how much you should give. Don't give reluctantly or in response to pressure. For God loves the person who gives cheerfully. |
Christianity Etc › Re: The Gospel: Isaiah 53 & 1 Corinthians 15 by gohf(op): 8:11am On Mar 01, 2025 |
R.116 For I am not ashamed of the gospel, because it is the power of God that brings salvation to everyone who believes: first to the Jew, then to the Gentile. |
Christianity Etc › Re: God Doesn't Hate You Because You Are Poor? by gohf(op): 8:09am On Mar 01, 2025 |
Thank God for a new month of march, we are moving forward in Jesus name. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Testimonies That God Answers Prayers by gohf(op): 8:08am On Mar 01, 2025 |
May God in his mercies give you a new testimony in this month of march in Jesus name |
Christianity Etc › Re: Prayer Warrior Or An Intercessor by gohf(op): 8:01am On Mar 01, 2025 |
Happy Weekend and a happy new month, start the month with prayer. Join us as we pray for one hour this Saturday by six pm. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Who is at fault here? by gohf: 9:19am On Feb 28, 2025 |
Nnamdipapa: Now, The Christian God is all knowing, Omnipresent and Omnipotent. He is in the future and the past at the same time. At the time he created Lucifer he knew he was going to rebel and lead people astray, cause so much pain to his creation, why was Lucifer created?
Are we going to blame Satan for being bad or blame a God who knew Lucifer was going to be bad before creation?
Or is the concept of God and Satan a fairytale?
What is your opinion to the above? if you make a knife knowing it could kill it means you have those whom you want to kill and when they are killed, you dispose of the knife as well when there is no more any you want to kill. If God wants to give you a taste of death so that you value life, what better way than to create an agent that brings death in the first place through his own pride and sin, as a vessel into destruction as a warning to those who wish to follow same route of pride and sin. There's no point blaming God or Satan, when the responsibility of the choices you make belong to you, Satan won't be punished for you falling his temptation. God tells us what to do, Satan says otherwise, and you are judged for whom you decide to follow, follow God's word you have life, follow Satan it means you choose not to live. Eternal life cannot be forced on anyone, do you think God wants to force his children to serve him forever, they have to be willing and obedient meaning they have to overcome temptation to be unwilling, disobedient and etc |
Christianity Etc › Re: Salaries Of Pastors In Nigeria! Who Pays More- RCCG, MFM, Winners Or DLBC? by gohf: 8:40am On Feb 28, 2025*. Modified: 9:07am On Feb 28, 2025 |
Bobodee09: Most churches don't employ pastor in full time bases.
They are free to have other jobs and some are entitled to the tithes collected every service day.
Am not in support of the pay cos it low even as that then but on the other hand some pastor preside over churches that the members aren't up to 30 people. entitled to a portion of the tithe for churches where all of it isn't sent to the HQ. Even at that it makes some of them talk about money twice a month |
Christianity Etc › Re: Salaries Of Pastors In Nigeria! Who Pays More- RCCG, MFM, Winners Or DLBC? by gohf: 8:39am On Feb 28, 2025 |
LordReed: 40k in 2017 was still peanuts! How can a family man support his family with 40k in 2017?! it was oh, even with daily transport 15k or 20k may finish |
Christianity Etc › Re: Salaries Of Pastors In Nigeria! Who Pays More- RCCG, MFM, Winners Or DLBC? by gohf: 8:38am On Feb 28, 2025 |
In 2017, a new teacher at a local school could get 30k per month.
It is well |
Christianity Etc › Re: tctrills Says The Bible Has "Few Contradictions" And That The Bible Is Not False by gohf: 8:21am On Feb 28, 2025 |
Ken4Christ: Yes, it is true that not every word in the Bible is God’s Word. But there are no contradictions in its messages. yes there are no contradiction to God's original message but phrases which are intepretated in ways that bring about contradictions and diversion from God's word |
Christianity Etc › Re: tctrills Says The Bible Has "Few Contradictions" And That The Bible Is Not False by gohf: 8:19am On Feb 28, 2025 |
Ken4Christ: The NWT rendered John 1:1 different from every other translation. Every other translation says 'and the Word was God. But the NWT says. 'and the Word was a god, as in small letter 'g'. They deny the deity of Christ which every other translation affirms.
They also deny the existence of literal hell. And so many other things time would not permit me to mention here. for me o, both translations of the John1:1 are wrong, one is trying to show that the word is the same God and the other is trying to show the word is another God, whereas that is neither the intent of John nor what he wrote as one reads more of what John writes. |
Christianity Etc › Re: tctrills Says The Bible Has "Few Contradictions" And That The Bible Is Not False by gohf: 6:16pm On Feb 27, 2025 |
Truthseeker10: Kindly tell us the contradictions in the original text. Do you think you deserve an answer? Is it that you don't read or there's something wrong with you that you usually ask the same questions even when you have been answered already? Guy all is well with you, or were you just impatient? |
Christianity Etc › Re: tctrills Says The Bible Has "Few Contradictions" And That The Bible Is Not False by gohf: 6:12pm On Feb 27, 2025 |
Truthseeker10: Oga we are not talking about translators errors or additions. Do you agree that the bible contradicts itself? Yes or no? are you okay? Isn't this what you asked? Truthseeker10: So can you tell us the contradictions of the bible? It's not your fault you don't worth been answered, isn't the only thing you deserve questions? Is disrespect something you grew up with or that's how you were brought up? Or please calmly this nonsense response you gave here? |
Christianity Etc › Re: Is It Adultery If A Christian Bachelor Marries Two Women Or Virgins At A Time? by gohf: 6:05pm On Feb 27, 2025 |
vdestro: See madness o, how can one put Christian and two wives together.
Christian: the law of He made them male and female (not male and females) thus 1+1=1 (not 1+1+1 or 1+2) which Christ Himself from which the word Christian was coined, restated when they asked him about divorce o, is it now polygamy which is male and females? They dared not even ask.
How then you can you ask if a Christ-ian (1+1) can marry two wives (1+1+1 or 1+2), ha haba.
This is gross mismatching and can not stand together.
If you want to do polygamy abeg be your pagan self and be responsible for it.
There is no hiding place for you in Christ-ianity, you are trying to do math with scripture that you don't even understand. What makes them one, is it because they are two? You say God didn't create two females, did God ask Adam to marry one wife? You speak about divorce like God didn't permit it. Lol, God made one man, he failed and God replaced him with another. Instead of you to use God's word, you are trying to use theological logic to answer a simple question God has already spoken concerning but noooo, you think you are a child of God by contradicting God? Do you even understand why Jesus quoted what Moses wrote in Genesis that they become one flesh, as to answer those who wanted to divorce their wives for just any reason, instead of staying faithful to the wife of their youth and not treat her wickedly and treacherously like Malachi wrote. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Is It Adultery If A Christian Bachelor Marries Two Women Or Virgins At A Time? by gohf: 5:57pm On Feb 27, 2025 |
StillDtruth: See teacher has turned serpent trying to Lie and twist to change his post as if The Law God gave Moses, applicable only in Isreal, and administered by Isreal's king, an Isrealite, for Israelites, in the land of Israel. was working and applicable to king Ahasuerus, in his own foreign land.
Oga, teacher, stop embarrassing yourself. You do not have any valid thing to say again. Bye shhh shhh 🐍 come let me swallow you up like the rod of Moses 🤣🤣🤣🤣 |
Christianity Etc › Re: tctrills Says The Bible Has "Few Contradictions" And That The Bible Is Not False by gohf: 5:54pm On Feb 27, 2025 |
Truthseeker10: So what translation has the statement that you made below?
"Doesn't the bible record Ahaziah being both 22 and 42 years old?"
Which is correct, is it 22 years old or 42 years old? lol so you even know this one and you are asking me By the way, why are you people arguing if there are contradictions or if contradictions are errors. Like if there is an original text and later copies deviate from it, that's a contradiction and an error, be it by coping or by interpreting. And usually when it doesn't align with what God has been saying and revealing. Infact this later one is one of the main reasons some books are not in the Tanakh even though some claim they are from God, books like Enoch. And even that book quoted in the bible, Jasher, it's a wonderful read as well but it's also record which may have been twerked by some people over time, who knows. But the main consistency and purpose of the scriptures which is to reveal Christ and call men to repentance has served it's purpose and that's why Jesus gave us the Holy Spirit to teach us, and not a book |
Christianity Etc › Re: tctrills Says The Bible Has "Few Contradictions" And That The Bible Is Not False by gohf: 5:43pm On Feb 27, 2025 |
Truthseeker10: So can you tell us the contradictions of the bible? there was one someone asked here on Nairaland about the wives of Esau, which he felt was a contradiction due to interpretation till I clarified it. Because to him the names mentioned previously were different from the ones mentioned after. There was another about the name of the Messiah in Isaiah 7, where the Septuagint and Masoretic translations were different in interpretation and gave different meaning of the text. There is also Job's friends like I mentioned. Then there are some records which are said to have been added or edited which makes the Jewish calendar of in 5,000 something something meanwhile it should be 6,000 something something. Erm which one again, can I remember now self, any ALL the ones you will find even online are like I said due to translation or misinterpretion of the text, or misunderstanding. I think there was one about king reign duration or age, and another about the names of priests and the like, some say this some say that. And this issue is usually associated with the Ezra-Nehemiah returnees record and book they are said to have written chronicles, 🤔 Honestly apart from all this, none of what is recorded as what God said was debated to be contradictory or false. Then when we look at the new testament, where more examples are, we have Matthews few quotes that are not directly referenced, but not contradictory. Same with author of Hebrews mentioned the altar of incense at the most holy place inside of holy place And other minor errors which most don't take seriously because it's like they were writing it from memory and what they had been taught by the teachers of the law. Then the differences in the gospel accounts, as well, which shows Luke actually did his own research and didn't copy Matthew, Mark probably wrote what Peter and co remembered and human memory isn't as strong as we want it to be. Then Matthew who may have kept notes as a tax collector wrote his gospel account. Now some parts of Mark were said to be added later on, that's the ending part and the story of woman caught in adultery in John was said not to be in some gospels. The Father word and holy Ghost are one in 1 John was actually proven by much scholars to be added to the original texts. Erm what else, ah forgive if I too don't remember all of them but the truth still stands the test of all this |
Christianity Etc › Re: Is It Adultery If A Christian Bachelor Marries Two Women Or Virgins At A Time? by gohf: 5:24pm On Feb 27, 2025 |
FreeSpirited: What's the meaning of this jargon u put up here?  . My God...so Leviticus 18 v 8 is what u complicated to this level? Haaa. Mogbe...egbami ke...lol Which one is wildernes in Leviticus 18.......smh... 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 I have laugh today oo |
Christianity Etc › Re: Is It Adultery If A Christian Bachelor Marries Two Women Or Virgins At A Time? by gohf: 5:21pm On Feb 27, 2025 |
MaxInDHouse: OK so i can now see that you won't admit trying to learn hence i won't even respond to your post again on this forum.
I have saved this post of yours as proof that you don't want to admit that you're looking for means to hear from me.
Farewell!  Oga before you run, answer the questions. Don't use all this, you don't want to learn from me and run away. 🤣🤣🤣 |
Christianity Etc › Re: Is It Adultery If A Christian Bachelor Marries Two Women Or Virgins At A Time? by gohf: 5:16pm On Feb 27, 2025 |
StillDtruth: Says teacher who could not counter as he did not remember that Esther, was no longer in Isreal where that Law applies nor under the king of Israel who has a duty to enforce that Law.
But was a slave in foreign land with a foreign law, under a foreign king.
So, teacher go and do your homework well else student go embarrass you. Bye bye. oh so the law concerning marriage only applies in Israel 😏 stilly stilly StillDtruth: Even these your words "women from idolatrous nations" shows that by God's Law, Isreal's women did not marry their men as second wives.
AI overview ....
Nehemiah's Actions: The book of Nehemiah describes a situation where many Jewish men had married foreign women, (obviously because no Isrealite woman wanted to marry them and break The Law.) |
Christianity Etc › Re: Is It Adultery If A Christian Bachelor Marries Two Women Or Virgins At A Time? by gohf: 5:13pm On Feb 27, 2025 |
MaxInDHouse: You know i stopped chatting with you on this forum for long but i did because it involves this guy otherwise i won't even respond to whatever you typed.
At least you have come out openly that you don't know that's why i opened the scriptures to explain.
So if you as in you want to know anything further go and ask for a free home Bible study with JWs that's all i can do for you but if you feel you don't need it it's fine by me!  Your pride sha, what I wrote "I don't know o, I have answered you" and you took it as me asking to open scriptures and explain. You are just a proud liar, you didn't give me all those mentions, I didn't question you on other things you wrote here in error abi. It's only posts that you see as opportunity to use to do advert that you reply to, even when you don't have anything good to add you will still post even if it's off point and do advert |
Christianity Etc › Re: Is It Adultery If A Christian Bachelor Marries Two Women Or Virgins At A Time? by gohf: 4:55pm On Feb 27, 2025 |
StillDtruth: Off Point! Now you talking rubbish because you real eyes that your Esther no work because she was no longer in Isreal where that Law applies nor under the king of Israel who has a duty to enforce that Law. 🤣🤣 stilly stilly See leave teaching to those God called to do so, so that your judgement would not be harsher than it should be |