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Christianity Etc › Re: . by gohf: 10:24am On Mar 07, 2025
Tellmeastory:
Of course it talks about a god.

The god is Yahweh.

Yahweh cannot be the Source of All That Is. The Ultimate Intelligence.

How could he be?

He orders massacres and rape in the Old Testament!
wow he ordered rape? 😲🤯
Christianity Etc › Re: . by gohf: 10:23am On Mar 07, 2025
Tellmeastory:
THE BIGGEST LIE EVER TOLD IN THE WORLD IS THAT THAT BOOK CALLED “THE BIBLE” IS TALKING ABOUT GOD.

THAT BOOK IS TALKING ABOUT YAHWEH, A TRIBAL DEITY OF THE HEBREWS OF ANCIENT ISRAEL.

IT IS AN ABSOLUTE EUROPEAN LIE AND DELUSION TO CLAIM THAT YAHWEH IS “GOD”. IT WAS PURE, DELIBERATE MISTRANSLATION OF “YAHWEH”, “ELOHIM” (meaning “the gods”) into a singular “GOD” or “THE LORD”, that was NEVER in the original texts.

JUST 10 MINUTES OF READING THE OLD TESTAMENT IS ENOUGH TO SHOW ANY UNBRAINWASHED PERSON THAT THAT CANNOT BE GOD.

In fact Yahweh is probably the god known as Nyame to the Akan people of Ghana, and Amadioha among the Igbos, since these were among the people constituting the population of Israel and surrounding regions in antiquity.
so you read the old testament in 10 minutes?
Christianity Etc › Re: . by gohf: 10:21am On Mar 07, 2025
MindHacker9009:
No that is a Roman empire invented story in the New testament to justify their destruction of Jerusalem and the second Temple in the year seventy.
You can also claim that Jesus Ben Ananias in referred to in the bolded: "A voice from the east, a voice from the west, a voice from the four winds, a voice against Jerusalem and the sanctuary, a voice against the bridegroom and the bride, a voice against all the people."
He continued this lament day and night for seven years and five months, predicting destruction but never personally cursing anyone.
The Jewish authorities, concerned about his proclamations, handed him over to the Romans, who flogged and tortured him.

No! Isaiah was referring to the nation of Israel.

Isaiah 53 goes on to say:
12 "Therefore I will give him a portion among the great,
and he will divide the spoils with the strong"
it is one thing for you to claim it is Israel Isaiah refers to it is another and more important that you explain and show us how this is Israel, let's start from the beginning of Isaiah 53 shall we

Isa.53.3-4
He was despised and rejected by men, a man of sorrows, and familiar with suffering. Like one from whom men hide their faces he was despised, and we esteemed him not. Surely he took up our infirmities and carried our sorrows, yet we considered him stricken by God, smitten by him, and afflicted.

How was Israel rejected by men?
How was Israel or Jacob despised?

And who are the we Isaiah refers to that didn't esteem Israel?

How did Israel take up your infirmities and carry your sorrows?
Christianity Etc › Re: . by gohf: 10:17am On Mar 07, 2025
MindHacker9009:
Isaiah was referring to the nation of Israel. Even you yourself despise the nation of Israel today.

Jesus Christ was not despise but his fame spread rapidly due to His teachings, invented miracles and his invented authority. Here are some Bible verses that mention His widespread reputation:

Matthew 4:24 – "And his fame spread throughout all Syria, and they brought to him all the sick, those afflicted with various diseases and pains, those oppressed by demons, those having seizures, and paralytics, and he healed them."

Matthew 9:31 – "But they went away and spread his fame through all that district."
(After Jesus healed two blind men.)

Matthew 14:1 – "At that time Herod the tetrarch heard about the fame of Jesus."

Mark 1:28 – "And at once his fame spread everywhere throughout all the surrounding region of Galilee."
(After Jesus cast out an unclean spirit in Capernaum.)

Mark 1:45 – "But he went out and began to talk freely about it, and to spread the news, so that Jesus could no longer openly enter a town, but was out in desolate places, and people were coming to him from every quarter."
(After healing a leper.)

Luke 4:14 – "And Jesus returned in the power of the Spirit to Galilee, and a report about him went out through all the surrounding country."

Luke 4:37 – "And reports about him went out into every place in the surrounding region."
(After casting out a demon in Capernaum.)

Luke 5:15 – "But now even more the report about him went abroad, and great crowds gathered to hear him and to be healed of their infirmities."

Luke 7:17 – "And this report about him spread through the whole of Judea and all the surrounding country."
(After raising the widow’s son in Nain.)

John 12:19 – "So the Pharisees said to one another, 'You see that you are gaining nothing. Look, the world has gone after him.'"
(His fame troubled the religious leaders.)

The Roman empire crucified many people at that time so your quote applies to them too:" But he was pierced for our transgression; He was crushed for our errors. He bore the punishment for our peace, And because of his wounds we were healed. "

May you know the truth.
but do you know the truth?

You speak of the nation of Israel but fail to realize that the nation of Israel ended and was scatteted but the nation of Judah who were exiled returned. And to be frank there has been no nation of Israel ever since, even the nation Jesus was born in were Jews, the Jewish nation.

Now where is the truth taught through the verses you quoted? How do they relate with you disagreeing that Jesus bore the punishment for our peace?

Were you expecting a ritual to occur where a nation sacrifices a man to fulfill the prophecy in Isaiah 53 and then proclaim that this is the sacrifice that brings us peace?

Here is a question Isaiah asks
Isa.53.8 From prison and trial they led him away to his death. But who among the people realized that he was dying for their sins--that he was suffering their punishment?

Do you even understand the scriptures you quote?
Christianity Etc › Re: . by gohf: 10:10am On Mar 07, 2025
MindHacker9009:
God Almighty of the Original Torah did not send any Jesus christ to cleanse sins with human blood, that's pagan ritual.

God Almighty of the Original Torah has already provided a way for cleansing of sins in Isaiah 1:18: “Come now, and let us reason together, saith the Lord: though your sins be as scarlet, they shall be as white as snow; though they be red like crimson, they shall be as wool.”
There is no Jesus mentioned here to come and wash away sins with his blood.
the same Isaiah who also wrote Isaiah 53?

Well the blood of Jesus was to pay for our death, while we are to repent from our sins.

Jesus carried the punishment for our sins and God is the one who cleanses away our sins, not us, what we do is repent and return to God.

God never provided us a way to cleanse our sins, He only commanded us to repent and come to Him and He would cleanse us, and in chapter 53, God reveals How He would do so.


So are you saying God performed a pagan ritual?
Christianity Etc › Re: Jesus Lied by gohf: 10:01am On Mar 07, 2025
ogaemeka:
If you did not spot it, I can't be of help
was it a spot it yourself puzzle? 🙄
Christianity Etc › Re: Jesus Lied by gohf: 8:22pm On Mar 06, 2025
But you did not show the lie 🤥 🤔
Christianity Etc › Scientific Belief Of Evolution Makes You A Racist And An Atheist by gohf(op): 4:44pm On Mar 04, 2025
Common guys, what is the purpose of defining humans into racial groups, is it not to differentiate those who originate from different climates and regions.

Whereas the Bible teaches that we all come from the sons of Noah, meaning we all come from the same family but branched off into different regions over time. Meaning that though we have our differences we are all humans. Apart from these evolution teaching a difference rooted deep into ones origin, meaning those in different continents have nothing in common other than that they look like others and speak languages. Infact to some they may even see you as some mutated animal.

When one looks into the subject of evolution, the classification of humans, we see the racist undertone of it. The basic message of evolution is that species evolve into more advanced species but such an open ended statement leaves room for many interpretations and one of which is for those supremacists racists.

Think about it for a moment, imagine a child saying or asking, that are the "middle asiifeens" like that because the organism and apes they evolved from where of a lower species? Obviously I made up a nonsensical continental name, but you can still see that one cannot truly stop racism without believing in God and His word. It is highly pretentious that some governing bodies claim to fight against racism while the root cause of it, which is the so called scientific teaching of the evolution theory is still being taught even to children in schools.

We moved from diverse theological and religious beliefs of different gods forming different people and cultures and each one claiming that the god who formed them is greater and therefore they in turn are greater than others, to evolution. We moved to evolution, where some believe they are the most evolved and are at the top of human evolution and are world leaders based on that.

Don't you know who you are, who you father is, who your ancestors were, how great, how mighty, such pride is ingrained even if it means diminishing and looking down on others. We are the true owners of the land, the "gods" who made this particular land gave it to us. And those "gods" were probably just great men and warriors who lived in the distant past, winning victories and conquering others.

Look as long as you believe in evolution you believe and say yes to racial differentiation and you may say you don't support the resulting discrimination but you support the basis for that very discrimination.
Christianity Etc › Re: How To Be "Rich" According To The Gospel by gohf(op): 10:12am On Mar 04, 2025
Work hard even if people do not approve nor appreciate your hard work and honesty, there is good news for you, God will reward you.
Christianity Etc › Re: God Doesn't Hate You Because You Are Poor? by gohf(op): 10:10am On Mar 04, 2025
God loves you 😊
Christianity Etc › Re: We Teach Them To Obey Christ by gohf(op): 8:38am On Mar 04, 2025
It is more important to obey God than it is to talk to God or hear from God.

So if you ask me praying or reading the Bible which is more important, I ask you in turn what is the purpose of praying and reading the Bible, if it is not for us to do God's will, if you do not pray, God still knows what you need, if you do not read God can still speak to you, but if you do not obey God, who will obey Him for you?
Christianity Etc › Re: Who Owns/controls The Earth? God Or Satan? by gohf: 7:43am On Mar 04, 2025
delkuf:
you are just fooling yourself then
I am fooling myself, because I tried to peacefully resolve two people's views and wrote that
"well you both are right, Satan does control the world which is made up of unbelievers and God's children are no more of the world.

And even though God owns our lives, the devil seeks to control and ruin it, and does he controls he has blinded."

Then you jumped on the post and started talking about something else, even when I showed you the very verses Jesus said we are no more of the world, obviously showing you what I meant and I in no way meant children of God are no on this planet.

But somehow you found a way to insult and ridicule. Hmmm, 🤔 you know Paul wrote knowledge puffs up but love builds up, even when I told you to calm down you refused insisting you were right in your own eyes.


Well if you believe completely that what you did was right then let God judge you for it, but if you don't let God be merciful to you concerning it.

Only God knows what went through your head, if it's a mistake or it's deliberate.
Christianity Etc › Re: Who Owns/controls The Earth? God Or Satan? by gohf: 9:27pm On Mar 02, 2025
delkuf:
this is simple English. They are not of this world doesn't mean that have been taken out of the world. They are two different thing. Not being in world simply means they don't subscribe to the things of the world. They don't like the world do. They is what it means not to be in the world. I don't how simple you want it to be. After we give our lives to Christ, we are still in the world, but don't subscribe to things of the world. Don't do things like the world does is thing. We are two different entity but in the same world
but did I tell you I didn't know that?
Christianity Etc › We Teach Them To Obey Christ by gohf(op): 7:29pm On Mar 02, 2025
We use God's mighty weapons, not mere worldly weapons, to knock down the Devil's strongholds. With these weapons we break down every proud argument that keeps people from knowing God. With these weapons we conquer their rebellious ideas, and we teach them to obey Christ.



I hope you will be patient with me as I keep on talking like a fool. Please bear with me. I am jealous for you with the jealousy of God himself. For I promised you as a pure bride to one husband, Christ. But I fear that somehow you will be led away from your pure and simple devotion to Christ, just as Eve was deceived by the serpent. You seem to believe whatever anyone tells you, even if they preach about a different Jesus than the one we preach, or a different Spirit than the one you received, or a different kind of gospel than the one you believed. But I will continue doing this to cut the ground out from under the feet of those who boast that their work is just like ours. These people are false apostles. They have fooled you by disguising themselves as apostles of Christ. But I am not surprised! Even Satan can disguise himself as an angel of light. So it is no wonder his servants can also do it by pretending to be godly ministers. In the end they will get every bit of punishment their wicked deeds deserve.


Our responsibility is never to oppose the truth, but to stand for the truth at all times.


I am shocked that you are turning away so soon from God, who in his love and mercy called you to share the eternal life he gives through Christ. You are already following a different way that pretends to be the Good News but is not the Good News at all. You are being fooled by those who twist and change the truth concerning Christ. Let God's curse fall on anyone, including myself, who preaches any other message than the one we told you about. Even if an angel comes from heaven and preaches any other message, let him be forever cursed. I will say it again: If anyone preaches any other gospel than the one you welcomed, let God's curse fall upon that person. Obviously, I'm not trying to be a people pleaser! No, I am trying to please God. If I were still trying to please people, I would not be Christ's servant. Dear brothers and sisters, I solemnly assure you that the Good News of salvation which I preach is not based on mere human reasoning or logic. For my message came by a direct revelation from Jesus Christ himself. No one else taught me.

(Ref: 2Cor.10.4 - 5, 11.1 - 15, 13:8; Gal.1.6 - 12)
They don't want many to know the one true God.
They want many to obey them but not to obey Jesus Christ, so your devotion is to what you can gain instead of devotion in what Jesus tells and teaches to do, you follow them.

The question is, do you know God, the one true God?

Jesus in John.17.3 Now this is eternal life: that they may know you, the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom you have sent.

Did they tell you knowing Jesus is knowing God, and you assumed you know "God" based on the Jesus you were taught? But who did Jesus come to reveal, and restore us to?

If Jesus is the way, to where or to who is he way to?

We wage war against the doctrines of nicolaitans called the Nicene creed, trinity which teach a different gospel where a Jesus is a god, where there are three gods instead of the one true God. So you are taught a different Jesus and receive a different spirit. Yet many ask, "why is the church so different from what is actually written"?

Ask yourself is it the truth you follow or popular opinion? Is it human logic or the gospel from God?

Following the crowd isn't always a wise thing to do
Luke.6.26 What sorrows await you who are praised by the crowds, for their ancestors also praised false prophets.

If the fate of those who led others astray is sealed, what about yours?

Who do you follow?
Christianity Etc › Re: Who Owns/controls The Earth? God Or Satan? by gohf: 7:25pm On Mar 02, 2025
delkuf:
they are not of the world doesn't mean we have been taken out of the world. When we gave our lives to Christ, our spirit and soul is purify spiritually but our body is still here on earth. John 17:12, And now I am no more in the world, but these are in the world, and I come to thee. Holy Father keep through thine own name those whom thou hast given me, that they may be one , as we are. So don't get twisted. We belonged to Christ and we are in the world. If death did not happen, we would taken to heaven when he comes the second time
🤦 calm down and ask yourself who was the one who said, "we have been taken out of the world"
Christianity Etc › Re: Who Owns/controls The Earth? God Or Satan? by gohf: 3:02pm On Mar 02, 2025
delkuf:
pls sir we God's children are still in the world oooo. Giving your life to Christ doesn't takes you out of this world rather God empowered you with his eternal life to live through this world.
"God's children are no more of the world" is what you read

John.17.14 I have given them your word and the world has hated them, for they are not of the world any more than I am of the world.
Christianity Etc › Re: Who Owns/controls The Earth? God Or Satan? by gohf: 10:46am On Mar 02, 2025
Who owns and controls the earth? GOD does.
Christianity Etc › Re: Is It Sin That Takes A Sinner To Hell Or Not Believing In Jesus? by gohf: 10:38am On Mar 02, 2025
OlofofoCorner:
😏😏😏😏😏

😃😆😆😆

Brainwashed blackman practicing religions of their masters.......
Also speaks the language of their masters ....embrace the culture of their masters .....Is that not a sign of foolishness?

Even answering the names of their masters......when their masters sees them as subhumans.......
sign of foolishness is when you can't engage properly in a discuss. All I asked you was what does religion mean

[s]You can't be foolish and acting like you are better than others[/s] actually fools behave that sameway 🤦
Christianity Etc › Re: Who Owns/controls The Earth? God Or Satan? by gohf: 10:35am On Mar 02, 2025
GOD subjected the world to bondage by giving Satan control of it, who through the fear of death subjected men to bondage. Besides Jesus is after the kingdom of God and not the kingdoms of this world.

Satan mixes truth with lies, saying he was given but denying the one who gave him at the same time, then asking Jesus to worship him as God and he, Satan, would give them to him was a lie because Satan can't and wont hand it to Jesus. He tried to use what Jesus knew was true to deceive him.
Christianity Etc › Re: Who Owns/controls The Earth? God Or Satan? by gohf: 10:29am On Mar 02, 2025
Celestialsword:
How can Satan control what God owns.
Satan only control unbelievers and not the earth,Satan has his own children while God has his
well you both are right, Satan does control the world which is made up of unbelievers and God's children are no more of the world.

And even though God owns our lives, the devil seeks to control and ruin it, and does he controls he has blinded.
Christianity Etc › Re: Who Owns/controls The Earth? God Or Satan? by gohf: 10:27am On Mar 02, 2025
vybzkartel:
In Matthew 4, Satan told The Lord Jesus that he could give Him all the kingdoms of the world since they were his:

Matthew 4:8
[8]Again, the devil took Him up on an exceedingly high mountain, and showed Him all the kingdoms of the world and their glory.

In Exodus 19 however, God told Moses that the earth belonged to Him.

Exodus 19:3-5
[3]And Moses went up to God, and the Lord called to him from the mountain, saying, “Thus you shall say to the house of Jacob, and tell the children of Israel:
[4]‘You have seen what I did to the Egyptians, and how I bore you on eagles’ wings and brought you to Myself.
[5]Now therefore, if you will indeed obey My voice and keep My covenant, then you shall be a special treasure to Me above all people; for all the earth is Mine.

What's your take?
devil is a liar na
Christianity Etc › Re: How To Be "Rich" According To The Gospel by gohf(op): 10:20am On Mar 02, 2025
RealityKings1:
3 seems to be logical than scriptural.
Its a basic fact
🤔 then what about number 4

4. Success is not independent of others.
Be trustworthy and use your resources to serve others, so as to have godly associates, it may benefit you later when you are in need and much especially when you return to God, it will definitely benefit you then. And the only way to be trustworthy, isn't to love money so as to keep it out of greed but to love God, keep to his word and make use of what you have to benefit others. People will depend on you and you have or will depend on others later, so selfishness won't lead to success - invest in others.


Luke.16.9 - 14
I tell you, use your worldly resources to benefit others and make friends. In this way, your generosity stores up a reward for you in heaven.
10 - "Unless you are faithful in small matters, you won't be faithful in large ones. If you cheat even a little, you won't be honest with greater responsibilities.
11 - And if you are untrustworthy about worldly wealth, who will trust you with the true riches of heaven?
12 - And if you are not faithful with other people's money, why should you be trusted with money of your own?
13 - "No one can serve two masters. For you will hate one and love the other, or be devoted to one and despise the other. You cannot serve both God and money."
14 - The Pharisees, who dearly loved their money, naturally scoffed at all this.
Christianity Etc › Re: Is It Sin That Takes A Sinner To Hell Or Not Believing In Jesus? by gohf: 9:56am On Mar 02, 2025
OlofofoCorner:
Anybody that doesn't believe in your foolish Jesus na Muslim abi?

Na only Christians and Muslims dey for this world?

Brainwashed blackman........

Religions are created by man . To fool , scam etc........

Which religion God dey practice?
if you knew what religion means, you would realize how dump the question, "which religion God dey practice", is?
Christianity Etc › How To Be "Rich" According To The Gospel by gohf(op): 9:51am On Mar 02, 2025
1. Do more than is expected and demanded of you, even if it may seem unfair
Matt.5.40 - 42
If you are ordered to court and your shirt is taken from you, give your coat, too. If a soldier demands that you carry his gear for a mile, carry it two miles. Give to those who ask, and don't turn away from those who want to borrow.

2. If you have give without expecting it back. But surely God will reward and return it to you for being merciful.
Luke.6.30 - Give what you have to anyone who asks you for it; and when things are taken away from you, don't try to get them back.
34 - And if you lend money only to those who can repay you, what good is that? Even sinners will lend to their own kind for a full return.
36 - You must be compassionate, just as your Father is compassionate.
37 - "Stop judging others, and you will not be judged. Stop criticizing others, or it will all come back on you. If you forgive others, you will be forgiven.
38 - If you give, you will receive. Your gift will return to you in full measure, pressed down, shaken together to make room for more, and running over. Whatever measure you use in giving--large or small--it will be used to measure what is given back to you."


3. Invest and be faithful with what has been given to you and with what is in your hand. Dont ever think God is hard and wicked and after what you earn

Matt.25.16 - The servant who received the five bags of gold began immediately to invest the money and soon doubled it.
20 - The servant to whom he had entrusted the five bags of gold said, 'Sir, you gave me five bags of gold to invest, and I have doubled the amount.'
21 - The master was full of praise. 'Well done, my good and faithful servant. You have been faithful in handling this small amount, so now I will give you many more responsibilities. Let's celebrate together!'
29 - To those who use well what they are given, even more will be given, and they will have an abundance. But from those who are unfaithful, even what little they have will be taken away.

Do you want more? 😊
Christianity Etc › Re: Pastor Kumuyi’s Wife Esther Looking Good In A Stylish Gown With A Cool Hat & Bag by gohf: 9:28am On Mar 02, 2025
If my mum dresses like this, no problem but not my wife o 😁
Christianity Etc › Re: Pastor Kumuyi’s Wife Esther Looking Good In A Stylish Gown With A Cool Hat & Bag by gohf: 9:26am On Mar 02, 2025
hisexcellency34:
He married a Virgin and she is still one
😂 no way you didn't
Christianity Etc › Re: Sexual Temptation Is Everywhere Today by gohf: 9:08am On Mar 02, 2025
APOPTOSIS:
You were there when God did all these and you saw God wrote the Bible himself.
Just reexamine your conscience again.
Sometimes stress your brain to think out of the box.
What is sexxx first ? How do humans get attracted to each other..?
Is it only humans? Who orchestrated such feelings?
Why would a cock chase a hen? Who instigated such and why?
If you don't ask "why" in life then you're not exercising your brain.
Did you know there was a time humans walked naked on planet earth?
Did you know there was a time siblings slept with siblings for human preservation?
Hope all those humans made it to Hell?
You are asking if I was there, are you not the same human being with a brain who wrote this to me
APOPTOSIS:
Can we channel issues of sexx back to the God that created us. God made such for humans and every other living thing. I don't know how humans would multiply without having sexxxx.
So you believe that God created us, how do you then believe? Did God tell you Himself?


You are talking about a box, did you create the box? Who created the box?


You know that sex is for procreation then use your head, why would more humans be needed, is it just to create more humans?

All this your nonsense reply is because I said we were made to work and not to fornicate

If indeed you read the Bible, then you would know that sex and child birth is spoken off and occurs after the fall, but before the fall, they were formed to work in the garden.

The OP is discussing immorality and having sex with just about anybody or when tempted into it. Would you eat whatever was served in front of you.
Health › Re: RCCG Offers Free Surgeries, Dialysis To Mark Adeboye's 83rd Birthday by gohf: 8:46am On Mar 02, 2025
Happy birthday, hope he stop collecting tithe and restitutes all of it before he goes back to meet the Lord, whom he claimed was an evangelist and not a pastor because as he Adeboye who is a pastor needs the tithe.

Hope they change all those doctrines and teachings that are not from Jesus and go to the truth of God's word. So that heaven will celebrate him and he will have eternal life and not just 80+yrs.
Christianity Etc › Re: Sexual Temptation Is Everywhere Today by gohf: 8:38am On Mar 02, 2025
APOPTOSIS:
Are humans not supposed to have sex or what?
Who created this flesh we keep denigrating and preaching against?
IF the flesh is gonna be filthy and ladened with sin, why did God create it?
God created your flesh for you to work not for you to lust
Christianity Etc › Re: Sexual Temptation Is Everywhere Today by gohf:
APOPTOSIS:
Are humans not supposed to have sex or what?
they are not supposed to fall into every sexual temptation and be immoral and have sex with just anybody, every king of thing, body, even animals because they have an itch.

Just as we are not to eat everything because some plants are poisonous
Christianity Etc › Re: Sexual Temptation Is Everywhere Today by gohf: 8:34am On Mar 02, 2025
Flee every appearance of evil, 1.Thess 5.22

2Tim.2.22 Flee the evil desires of youth, and pursue righteousness, faith, love and peace, along with those who call on the Lord out of a pure heart.

1Cor.6.18 Flee fornication. Every sin that a man doeth is without the body; but he that committeth fornication sinneth against his own body.


Run run run but some people won't hear when the Holy Spirit tells them to run nor see when He reveals the appearance of evil. You can resign from the job, God who can bring Joseph out from prison and give him the best job in a global power can give you a better job.
Christianity Etc › Re: Attending Church Crusades by gohf: 8:33am On Mar 02, 2025
Fibey69:
So I'm new here and you all should pardon my poor method of relaying my post embarassed🥺
you are pardoned 😊 but do share some of the powerful sermon you heard

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