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planetx:
They finally swallowed their pride and went for the Punjabi guy If this did not work out and he also resigned, they have the Yoruba girl in standby mode. What a bunch of jokers.

real jokers, becoming like a children's playground

hustla:
A couple of people have asked about BA roles from me, is it easy to get into? Suitable for women? (them no like wahala )

BA roles are quite easy to get into depending on how you're able to combine transferable skills from previous roles or career like one of us mentioned. Doing a course like BCS BA foundations can help as it has so much content on business analysis. Above all, hands on experience from credible platforms will give needed boost and confidence to begin to apply for roles and face up to interviews. The BA job market in the UK is so enormous as the UK is traditionally too process driven across all sectors always leading to increase demand of BAs. Of course for women it's good but make sure you have an investigative, research focused and curious mind which is a necessity as a BA.

HondaLover:
Sometimes leaving people to their miseries will keep them quiet at some point.

The more you grant them audience, the more drama unfolds and start having scenario where insults and tantrums are been thrown around

They are creating false narratives so we cannot keep quiet, is keeping quiet that made nigerians one of the most profiled nationals on earth. Even many nigerians now believe we are the worst out there and it's never true

Coldie:
Governments from those countries are no serious about it and we over here have no control over them or their borders but since this is Within Nigeria, we can do it

The problem is Africans are not too scientific enough to solve problems.

There's a beautiful story of how a dried up sea known as aral sea in khazanstan by the world Bank was revitalised in just like 10 years by building a dam to conserve the sea. Its documented but our leaders here don't read to learn solutions to ecological problems. I just tire

I think there's a plan to channel water from a river in central African Republic known as Chana River if am not mistaken to lake Chad by the African development bank. Whether it had started am not sure.

But this is a great idea, the feasibility is what we don't know.

Need to correct myself the rver name is chari river a tributary I think of ubangi River in Central Africa Republic. Its a proposal by the Lake Chad basin commission and as at 2008 they were looking for bid proposals for the project.

AKALAMAGBO:
Omo!!! The hate on STUDENTS is really strong and pathetic.

It's a shame, most of Nigerian elites in the past who have foreign citizenship migrated as students even with govt scholarships. They are angry seeing Nigerians without govt support taking their destiny in their hands. Even if people fail, who are you to decide for them

Zahra29:
Try to make your point without resorting to calling people names -ignoramus, ignorant, olodos- take it easy lol

You guys are irritating, let people live with their decisions and don't dictate to them. Ok

Zahra29:
Lol, I said that ihs fees is peanuts compared to the actual cost of treatment (obviously if you never require treatment then it may seem exorbitant and an unfair tax which is understandable). Furthermore, student ihs fees are cheaper than the ihs fees on other visa routes.

You guys are ignorant. Ihs is not cheaper for students it's prorated at 1 year and four months for students so it looks cheaper than other visa routes which are more in duration than student visas. Even if it were cheaper you expect students who can only work for 20 hrs week to pay same with those working for more hours. This beef with students is something else. And if you think it's cheaper than cost of treatment, are immigrants not better than citizens not paying at all. Let them pay something too nah.

Munamoqel:
Stems course is what we need ! Are they actually improving their Lives or down grading it ? From a bank manager with a driver an a house in lekki ( 5 bedrooms ) to be hanging inside a 1 bedroom with 4 depandants and be entering bus up and down !how is it improvement ? From driving a benz 2018 ( Automatic ) to driving a dead manual Mazda in the Uk ? From eating fresh organics healthy food to froozen GM food ? From warm free weather to Freezer that you need thousand of pounds to keep warm ? From see you doctor now now to been number 7m of the NHS waiting list? From been respect in your community to be look down upon by right wing oyinbo . It seem your definition of improvement is upside down . If You can maintain the level of life style you enjoy in Najia and add it then na rubbish.

You have lost touch with the current realites in Nigeria, who told you there's enough organic food in Nigeria, foods that are laced with poisonous pesticides and all. If you've been away for too long from Nigeria let me burst your bubbles, all na buga. Those people living in lekki don't have confidence in the sustenance of their jobs or business in the next five years. They have witnessed their peers crashed from grace to grass is split seconds due to bad economic polices leading to loss of jobs and businesses. No one wants to go down like that you hear? So all those lekki bank manager thing are not sustainable with nothing to fall back on.

Nigerians are not stupid. Those who know are truly comfortable and who in the next 10 years or more they are still fine are not making these moves and not all Nigerians live in lekki or even Lagos.

Munamoqel:
lies most Chinese coming to the UK are self sponsored by family ! They plan for it hence don't breed like rats ( 1 child policy) in Nigeria we have ptdf ,nndc ,amenesty office ,state scholarships boards , common wealth .all sponsor Genuine students that don't have to start selling pots , pans,towels to JAPA . This are real student's

Lies they are not self sponsored, there are current allegations that they are sponsored by the Chinese govt to steal Western technologies. Reason most are studying tech and engineering courses.

We are here to debunk your narratives. Even in India there are govt backed loan schemes for their people to study in the uk. Na naija govt mumu pass, how many of those govt scholarships are accessible to the large Nigerian population. Your problem is you are not happy seeing fellow Nigerians making sacrifices to improve their lives without govt support.

AlphaUno:
You dey mind them?

The gatekeepers trying to sound politically correct. Now I know why the likes of Suella are doing too much - offspring of immigrants herself.


Reminds me of decades back when few Black Americans were opportuned to rise up the wealth ladder. They started feeling n acting like whites looking down on their fellow blacks. Now, after realising the folly of their parents, the children of these wealthy ones and other new entrants into the Upper class are now ‘ buying black’ - making a conscious and deliberate efforts to support black businesses and communities.
Because, if they don’t support their own, no one will.

It's the typical Britico arrogance and hypocrisy. Imagine someone saying ihs is chicken change. If dem born dem well make uk govt cancel ihs fees and stop receiving international students, all the gatekeepers here will remember their original country when hunger go wire them. The standard of living in Western nations will drop once they want no foreigner on their soil any longer. Is it not the amount of borrowing to fund tax cuts that cost Liz Truss her Job. That tells a story of the true position of things. The gate keepers don't know how bad the uk economy is which they are trying to even out with net migration. They thought Boris didn't know what he was doing. Olodos!

HondaLover:
Edakun what's all this drama filling the pages of this thread báyìí.

Shey admin can't mute everybody for like 24hrs make everybody rest small na.

People will miss the aim of this thread birthed by Aunty Fati ooo

It's difficult to keep quiet when some folks wants to present Nigerians as the worse humans in the world. Kolewerk

leef2022:
@ bolded is by their govt. not parents. Most parents that do,take loans, sell stocks and put their properties up as collateral to secure loans unless they members of the elite or ruling party that again would be from the govt. cofers.

Don't mind all these ignorant Nigerians spinning lies and spreading what they don't know about.

Munamoqel:
this is bitter truth ! Suddenly Matured Nigerian luv Masters program they sell everything including cars , furniture ,cloths ,gas cooker ,plates and pots just to attend this Masters in the UK ! They mirror the UK student visa = immigration and settlements visa .any real student will not behave in this manner ( the Chinese don't go about selling pots and pans to UK Masters ) ! The Master is so rewarding that Nigerians now used arrange POF ,fake marriages ,Fake dependants ,borrowed money just to attain this HIGHLY REWARDING UK MASTERS ( like is life and death matter ) They say they have JAPA to PARADISE !

Ignoramus, most of the Chinese if not all are sponsored by their govt as a deliberate effort for them to learn western technology and go back home to develop their ever expanding economy where ready jobs are available. Does Nigeria have any plan for that.

AlphaUno:
The old saying says “He who pays the piper, dictates the tune”
As a LEGAL migrant, I should have a say too, you know?
That IHS no be beans to come by.

And by the way, as we speak, hundreds are coming in illegally thru the British channel and the high seas .

those ones don't put a strain on housing o cos they walk and live on water

Zahra29:
I see where Gemma is coming from in some ways.

The majority of Nigerian immigrants might be hardworking and resourceful, however Nigeria does have a bad reputation for a reason because there is a fair number of people who look for ways to fleece the system, thereby making it a lot harder for genuine people.

All the POF scams for example. Applicants using chicanery to show that they have the required funds even though they know that they lack sufficient means to sustain them and their dependents.

There have been numerous posts where people have to be "convinced" that they do not qualify for 30hrs nursery funding or other grants/benefits as they count as public funds. To British citizens/residents who pay taxes and do not even claim these benefits, it can be very annoying to hear or see immigrants who have not yet contributed to the system (and students who do not pay tax) trying to claim these benefits. It can also make them wonder what benefits these people would go on to claim as soon as they have obtained citizenship. This is what easily stokes resentment in Brits - feeling like they're being taken for a mug

Also, the complaints. No country is perfect. While everyone is entitled to their opinion, it can be quite grating hearing migrants complaining about the NHS and other aspects of British life. The obvious response would be "why don't you go back then, if it's so wonderful where you're from!"

are nigerians the only ones abusing the system, what's wrong with you guys and nigerians, British citizens themselves are angels abi, they too don't abuse the very system they benefit from? do you know how british citizens themselves took adavntage of all the covid grants for businesses during the pandemic, oh I see it's very legal for British citizens to fleece their own system but immigrants should not come near abi.

There are criminals everywhere on the surface on the earth and it's down to human behaviour. This idea of painting Nigerians bad while other nationals are painted as saints is so dumb and I advise we all begin to act and speak more wisely in matters like this. No one has the right to dictate to another person how to conduct his or her affairs whether as a immigrant or a citizen. There are laws in every nation that deals with anyone who breaks the law whether citizens or immigrants. Let the Nation and their institutions decide who is right or wrong and let's stop all this manner of self righteousness. No one has made anybody in this forum a judge over people's choices in life. Live and let's live

justwise:
Nigerians that came in with their families paid thousands already into the system even before they use any social amenities or NHS.

Those on dependant visa work unlimited hours to pay into the system, after one year the student will start working unlimited hours to pay into the system. So your argument hold no water.

To your point that Indians comes in to take highly skilled jobs is far from the truth as they come in to take just ANY job that give sponsorship.

Indians abuse the system just as Nigerians, just that they do it and keep it within their communities but Nigerians are the loudest and far too boastful.

Thank you sir. I rest my case

Gemma11:
Those ones who pack themselves in houses are illegal immigrants.

We are talking about those Nigerians who are abusing the student visa route by packing their whole families to the UK. It is putting a strain on housing and schools. Please stick to the topic.

Shebi you say they are abusing the system, How do people abuse a system by bringing in their families legally? Are Nigerians alone bringing a strain on housing and schools. The Syrians, Ukraine who came in with huge families nko. Na only Nigerians waka come?

Gemma11:
Does this type of thinking also apply to British born children of immigrants?

Or what about Boris who was not even born in the UK and who has Turkish ancestry?

The late Prince Philip nko who was born in Greece and has German ancestry?

Maybe that's why Boris opened the floodgates

Gemma11:
Yeah her focus should be on Nigerians because they are abusing the system.

Students are normally single people

Students consisting of a grown man/wife & partner with 3- 5 kids is not normal and taxing on the system. Yes they are paying for healthcare but are they also paying for school places, books, pens, free food and all the other amenities that these children use? It is something when British Born children can't find a place in school because a new Nigerian immigrant child has taken their place.

There are more Indians and Chinese coming in as students than Nigerians but these are genuine students coming alone to study. It is the Nigerians who are packing whole families here.

Suella will be back. She probably only resigned so that she could do so before the PM.

So Indians are not abusing the system ba? Who are the highest overstayers according to the former home secretary. Please let's stop this political correctness of of agreeing with world that Nigerians are the worst offenders.

With what I have seen with my eyes here, the Indians and Asians including Eastern Europeans are worst offenders when it comes to abusing the systems. Do you know how the Indians, Pakistanis and bengalis from Bangladesh pack and overcrowd themselves in a particular house even against council regulations, with their names that look alike do you know how much immigration fraud they perpetrate here? Compared to these folks Nigerians are still holy.

All those Indian students that came alone are still bringing all their families and grandparents in due time, you never see something. Their kit and kin with established business here with sponsorship licences eventually switch them to a work visa and before you know the whole family is here.

On top of all these the Indian govt want more students visas for their people, is Nigeria asking for such?

TheGuyFromHR:
Suella Braverman's actually not an immigrant.
Her parents were immigrants. She isn't.
Nor is she a naturalised citizen. She's native born, i.e. she was born a British citizen.

If her parents were stopped at the border, she will never be a native born

koonbey:
What's 'screaming all over the place'? They have raised concerns and said they are looking into it. What's the screaming in that and isn't that a perfectly reasonable response?

What's Robin Hood about what they're doing? What have they announced? Do you know what checks they plan to put in - or are you just speculating?

It's until they implement it and then make it retroactive to disadvantage people who have already paid that you can call them that - so far there's no basis for it.

There are antecedents and am not trying to be politically correct

hustla:


I am guessing you did not see the parts below -

There has to be a reason for people to go there. Money is an excellent reason!


Luckily, we were in a position to change jobs and quickly scale up.

But Australia and by extension NZ is a land of opportunities in terms of small businesses and risk taking. All sectors pay well. Very well because that is the biggest drawcard. People then stay for the lifestyle.

Do you read her entire story?

koonbey:
The system is being overloaded on various fronts - healthcare and housing are the most obvious ones.

It's not just about money either, because even with more immigrants with more money, limited infrastructure will not magically appear, and things like house rent will continue to shoot up because of higher demand and bidding wars.

So there are legitimate reasons for brits to be concerned - it's not about racism. Also, people want to protect their cultures and the makeup of their countries, and that's not racist either.

No Nigerian would be happy to return to their hometown and find that the majority of people there are foreigners whom they don't recognise, or from other countries entirely even, and speaking an entirely different language with different cultural practices. Even inside the country there's so much animosity against people of other ethnic groups who move to or through communities dominated by other ethnicities but we somehow go outside and act shocked when we see others expressing similar concern.

We must admit the way people are approaching the dependents thing is absurd, including sham marriages and all. Just look at that chart and see - that's clearly abnormal.

They were not forced to open the borders as they were the ones complaining about shortage of workers and international students. Its up to them to close the borders but unfair to open up and start screaming all over the place. There is need to be decisive and set a standardised immigration system once and for all. If folks are cheating the system then put checks in place to reduce fraud This Robin Hood style of opening up to collect people's money and complain to push them out again will only continue to cast the country in a bad light of being hostile to foreigners

LagosismyHome:
The thing is Indians are using trade deals and other ways to flood UK disproportionately more than other nations. In 2020 they had the highest number of overstayers yet they are giving deals to make them stay more

If Nigerians had that much over stayers they will be noise everywhere. How come even with right to work / right to rent they still have such a high number disappearing into the system

So me I like her that she put her eye on why are Indians flooding her so much and she has planted that seed . However yes that means she truly forgot where and how she came here. Immigrant

So why so much noise about naija dependants, we kill person?

Ticha:
Have you seen the cost of living in Australia and where it is located? There has to be a reason for people to go there. Money is an excellent reason! We just made a trip back to the UK from New Zealand. Flights alone for 5 of us cost us $18k and that was the cheapest flights we could find in low season.

Salaries in Canada are only high in Tech and Finance. It's average in other sectors and almost on par with the UK with a higher cost of living. Then for those in health and education, you need different licenses depending on province, same as Australia.

We worked out we would need about $140k (70k GBP) joint income to live comfortably in either NZ or Australia. Till we got here... we were managing to get by on that joint income. Luckily, we were in a position to change jobs and quickly scale up.

But Australia and by extension NZ is a land of opportunities in terms of small businesses and risk taking. All sectors pay well. Very well because that is the biggest drawcard. People then stay for the lifestyle.

PS - taxwise, there's no tax free allowance in Canada, Australia or NZ. Pensions are fully taxed as well. There are no ISAs. No paying into pension to reduce your tax exposure. Canada has state and federal taxes which makes taxes over all higher. NZ's lowest tax band is 33% with no tax free allowance. Australia lowest tax band is around 30%. On top of this this, there is a medical levy of 2%. They also have CGT even
when selling your own personal home.

PSS - even children's accounts are taxed in the 3 countries! . It was a huge shock to us hence why the kids investment accounts are all in the UK.

Follow the opportunities, make the most of those opportunities and retire somewhere close to home!

Thanks for saying it all. @hustla I told you earlier that most folks don't tell you the entire story but here is a credible one. And it's same with all I've heard from different folks with same experience

hustla:
Netflix and Twitter too, I think

As for the currency part, they spend in their currency and not GBP, so I dont think the GBP vs CAD or AUD comparisons hold water

If minimum wage in AU is $20/hr and Im getting $80 - $110/hr, isnt that going to be very decent salary?

Gotta chose one's poison

Truth is some of the stuff you see online are not reality. Folks too don't tell the entire story. Do you know the cost of housing in a place like the US especially in the big and expensive cities? I know folks who make the move to the US from the UK and then complain about the economic realities.

Apart from IT jobs and medical doctors, most other occupations using the economic of scale are not really better off in comparison to the UK.

hustla:
But then, in UK you still have to pay taxes without plenty salary. If the standard of living in other places is high, they have the salary to cushion the effects

I'm on Reddit now and someone said entry level salaries for his role is the same as he was paid 9 years ago despite inflation and all. No be juju be that?

There's recession now so things are more difficult including the other nations.

Also remember in an economy like the us is pure capitalism so wages will be higher as it's a survival of the fittest thing but in an economy like that of the UK that tends to socialism or welfarism you can't expect salaries to be that hight. Two different economic systems

hustla:
Sorry to divert from the topic but why are salaries crazy low in the UK compared to other countries?

I was doing some research on Youtube and found out that what people get paid at Microsoft (US/Canada and Australia) in entry level roles is basically same as what a Director/Manager makes in the UK

I am checking Glassdoor now and £25K / £30K roles in UK = $120K in Australia (Tech). I think the same goes for those in healthcare as I have been researching mental health nursing / social work too

Someone mentioned it to me on Twitter about a year ago and I dismissed his claims citing healthcare and GBP being more than the currency of most countries but having checked now, its weird

Just cant seem to wrap my head around the reason

Taxes are higher in North America and Australia including cost of living. Until in recent times the pounds is still higher in value than the other countries. Considering the economy of scale, folks still argue that the standard of living is still a bit higher than the other nations though many still debate this.

From my own personal research sha there are still some advantages of working in the UK compared to others.

tonyshine01:
How high is the bridge from the water, what is the water-ground clearance?

Can a ship go through it, or is this a systematic cutting off of River Niger from hosting ships.

Communities in Kogi, Imo and Anambra won't be able to have ships bring cargo closer to them.

Half bread is better than puff puff

Nothing can never satisfy you

OldNairalander:
Just to remind us that Tinubu is not Lagosian He is from Iragbiji in Osun state

He's still a Nigerian and does not have relatives either in Cameroon or Mauritania

phyl123:
This is more likely the case…. Everyone for themselves, typical tories. Same as Jumping from a sinking ship.

But honestly when will they just stop all these child's play. It's beginning to look like a Fuji house of commotion and not good for the economy in the long run.