₦airaland Forum

Ken4Christ:
It's not about whether they belong to PFN or not. After all, churches that identify with PFN are not up to 10% of the churches in Nigeria. Most ministeries are lone rangers. They prefer to be on their own.

What PFN should do is work out the modality to reach out to as many churches as possible and let them see reasons why they should not support the Muslim Muslim ticket.

But pride will not let them do it. They are not good in winning new members. Even most of the old members are living because of the politics they play in the guise of PFN.

Jagaban has a lot of goodwill among many prominent pastors in Nigeria, no matter how hard PFN or CAN campaign against him, he will still get a lot of support from the Christian community.

naptu2:
It is a well known fact that some posts on this site are not based on common sense, but rather, people are commenting based on their biases.

Sensible people in Nigeria know that when a seaport is built, a naval base is also built in order to protect the vessels and facilities that are associated with the port. They also know that most airports in Nigeria have an air force wing for similar reasons.

Even if we want to pretend that they are not so smart, at least they should have learned from the subsequent posts on this thread. The second and third posts refer to the dredging of the river and the siting of a gas industrial park.

But let's just pretend that they are not smart enough and that they really mean what they post.

They actually know bruv, they are just angry when the leaders they don't like or hate are actually the ones attracting the required infrastructure for development cos it makes nonsense of their political anger against such leaders. Another example is the 2nd Nigeria bridge where they try to ascribe the success of that infrastructure to even those that never did anything about it. Na their way, if it was their own person that they like that did this, they will praise him to high heavens but alas no be their person.

kettykin:
What oguta needs is refinery and petrochemical industry and not naval base .
Of what economic benefit is a naval base that would be giving Fulani herdsmen coverage to Imo state and oguta.

Why are igbo politicians commissioning useless projects .

Refinery Will Keep boys out of the street and not naval base

you need a naval base to protect any oil and gas facility that would be sited. Be grateful for once, a naval base is an FG presence you guys complained does not exist in the SE.

JOemmy:
Obi also need to show the pictures of his time in unn on to put doubters to shame.

They said he was not attending classes, you want to see another fake docs again?

nelxxy:
shut up. Buhari and tinubu educational background is questionable but obi certificate issue is mere propaganda.

Indeed, you guys are only mocking yourselves

pquaver:
We are used to Tinubu and Buhari not having certificates according to you so w are only using the same yard stick for obi.. This one u presented is fake look at the signatures and is black and white show us the original.. Is it too hard to ask?

e be like say e no dey o

Amalekki:
Yes. This is what happens when you childishly latch on irrelevant things even when the constitutional requirements are clear. You latch on Buhari’s document, you latch on Tinubu’s, you create your own personal academic requirements for political office. Now your preferred candidate is the subject you are blowing grammar trying to sound learned.

e shock me o

Anybody that mocked Buhari and tinubu about their certificates and is trying to defend Obi on this is a born hypocrite. Make una fear God o.

Broveens42:
The earlier you guys understand that nija politicians will always be nija politicians the better for you.
One thing nairalanders fail to understand is, nija politicians can't do without cutting corners at one point in their life.. because they rose through such system to get to the top; not just certificate issues..
Just look at the 3 main presidential candidates...they also have at least one authentic certificate(whether it is the minimum req or not, is a different discussion)...


None of the candidates can solve Nigeria's problem, because it's problems are rooted in deceit

This is what I have been saying o, no politician anywhere in the world is clean so let no one use integrity to campaign. All na scam o

the average Nigerian is an oppressor and a bully, just give him a privileged position and the beast in him or her will come out.

This is why I don't believe in the end sars struggle cos the police or military is a true reflection of who we are as a people

justwise:
Really? So because you don't earn enough to pay BBC for watching other channels you should not have TV?

There's hardly anything one write here that will satisfy anybody, if I didn't say this, someone will argue that what about those that can't afford it.

It's really difficult to write something here that will satisfy everybody, wow

If you're working and earning a regular income, a TV licence is not a big deal, why give yourself unnecessary stress about what to watch when you can just pay for the damn thing and watch what you want on any device any day or time. It doesn't worth all the long conversations here. You can either pay £159 at once or you pay monthly. Additionally, you can use the license for other things like proof of address. And if you don't earn a regular income or you're not buoyant enough to pay for the license, why have a TV in the first place?

Finally, in these days of online entertainment and sports, there's no way you will not watch an online live event for which a TV licence is also needed. Get a TV licence and enjoy yourself to the fullest, simple.

kafeii123:
What you're saying about them all....is true...but you'll agree with me...that at least there's one of them on whom no single stain of corruption has yet been found and stuck... he's not in the ruling party..so if he has skeletons.. I'm sure they would have released it to the open

if we keep voting for our grandfathers...when will it be our own turn.... Tinubu and majorly Abiola were part of those who financed Abacha's coup... while Buhari himself was one of Abacha's right hand men then....

Atiku's corruption is also well established...starting frim his time in customs...to selling national assets etc... I feel these two need to rest...if Tinubu wins.. and Nigeria doesn't get better...cos I don't see any chance that it will....unless if it's not this crop of APC "technocrats" that gets appointed and there's high chance they'll be the ones...then the southwest becomes shamed... just like the north is now being riled for leading us into hell...

The international community will never take us serious...... and our rep is currently more than bad..as it is now....

It's not about if there's a saint amongst them...but I'll prefer a leader we can shout on... and expect him to listen to us...than one who would keep quiet.. even when we're being killed... Fasoranti's daughter was murdered in Ondo by children of mere cattle herders..... How can a boy whose only expense..is the food his parents have given him since birth..murder another one whose parents have not only served this country and region meritoriously...but have also invested huge sums.. raising that child..... And nothing happened......neither tinubu..nor akeredolu could utter a word.. simply because they're seeking the presidency.. if it had been GEJ...even Soyinka who didn't know any chibok citizen personally...let alone being related to or just evn knowing any of the abducted chibok girls ..could rile his mouth .. and nothing was done to him...

I prefer the iboman in this instance.. cos with him in Aso rock... southwesterners would be more than able to talk...if there's notice of any foul play in e.g. appointments... But if tinubu enters.. and they armtwist him into going against the Yorubas interests..no one wld be able to talk..after all na our pikin dey dia... moreover...we don't have any assurance..that he'll be able to finish two terms well...or that they'll allow another southwesterner finish his term..Incase he's unable to do so .. they'll just pay a few guys up.... and the tune will change..

Same way northerners are finding it hard to cry out now... despite losing their children to rampaging bandits and terrorists...it was easier for them... when it was a foreigner ruling... now they must observe table manners...

This is my issue...the easterner will work hard to better the country..cos his reelection will be hinged on him performing....if any of these others get there..na "this is our turn" mentality e go be... and we will have to just wait .. praying for their tenure to elapse in time... without being able to be accountable


Maybe we should return to the regional system...where we have regional premiers and then a president or prime minister...each region will want their own best interests.. and will promote their best hands to lead them... but what we have now is shambolic in some sense...

You are wrong, Obi will be another GEJ that will be hijacked by militants this time by ipob even if he's going wrong cos they will accuse other tribes as opposing their son and don't want him to succeed. You guys should please stop seeing Obi as a youth. For christ sake he's also a grand father already in his sixties. Obi is also among the elites class and he can never go against them as president. Don't be fooled when the chips are down he will still choose the elite class over the Nigerian masses. Buhari before 2015 was seen as a messiah of sort and as someone who will twist the arms of the elite in favour of Nigerians but what so we have now, the greatest oil theft happening under his nose and you think obi can go against the elites into this oil theft thing?

Like I said before let people make their choice but to point out that one person is different from the rest is the biggest lie of the century. Forget the international community they don't really care about our reputation as their own citizens are equally corrupt if not more. The difference is that western nations take care more of the welfare of their citizens and that's where they are wiser. We here are bunch of greedy fellows and hypocrites forming saints. No Nigerian politician currently will work hard for Nigerians, it's a lie. Regional govt is actually the way forward but the politicians don't want it either from the south or north. They are all lying. No Eastern politician wants restructuring or have you heard Obi said anything in that light, Never. It's all rhetoric.

kafeii123:
Ekiti is locked for APC already... there's still much work to be done in Ogun..Oyo and Osun..but APC is still very strong in those areas too....but you see Ondo...APC will fall flat in Ondo if tinubu doesn't work hard..and I think Akeredolu's appointment may go a long way in fixing that....let's hope it'll work tho..my problem is just that salient fact that this man is too feeble to rule ...plus the fact that we can't keep handing this country to people with links to murderers, money embezzlers and drug pushers... It won't speak well for us internationally..that we are being led by people with identity crisis......andour intelligentsia will bear that scorn over the world that someone with such dark a past...is the one directing our nation's affairs...

What message do we want to pass to the upcoming generation...that crime and criminality can get you into the presidency.... Which correctly functional country has ever had a president with the type of pedigree that some of our current leaders have...how can we expect to move forward...if we keep doing this to ourselves in this country...these are the fears....

If we were running a regional government...will the Yorubas have let someone like Amoda Ogunlere near any government post at all?.... will the Igbos have lowed someone like Ngige...and this imo governor lead them ...will the south south allow ameachi..and an an ex cultist be their best foot forward?.... Rather than just being cabinet members for use in cases that demand such hardness of character?...maybe we should go into 2023 thinking this way...

I believe we've reached the stage where all of those who ever had any direct dealings with the military should be made to take a back seat....it was the military who led us down this path we're now trying to veer off from

you guys should stop deceiving yourselves, there is no saint as a politician anywhere in the world. Do you think the politicians in the Western nations are all saints? Buhari rode on the mantra of integrity and we have seen the result. Obi wants to ride too on the mantra of integrity and saving money and you think people will be fooled again? Please wake up, the western nations defining saints for you are all deceivers themselves. Anybody telling you he will not embezzle money in office is a deceiver. No Nigerian politician today including all those who are contesting can beat their chest that they had never committed one crime or the other. Both the Military and the civilians are all criminals who had let us down one way or the other. Vote for your preferred candidate but don't tell me which one is a criminal cos you will never find any clean politician, all na scam

ajayiopy:
IF YOU ARE COMPLANINIG ABOUT THE TOLL FEE, IT IS NOT NECESSARY YOU CAN DROP AND JOIN CANOE TO CROSS OVER

You dey mind them? They will surely pay and use the bridge, who like suffer to remain in traffic for endless hours. All na shakara

ogascomax:
Do not allow APC deceive you this project is not just Federal government project it's a combination of groups. Delta State government and Anambra state government gave 10% for the project. Also it's an investment by both private sector and the federal government both have their percentage. Those money will be realized through tollgate. PDP government had already invested money for that project and the commuted huge resources so APC government should not be claiming glory for project that was ongoing before the came and invested their portion. It's a collective effort by past and present administrations.

The money pdp invested, where did it take the bridge to. This is why many people will never believe you guys that are trying to spin narratives to discredit APC.

It's not compulsory to like everybody but don't give credit to those who don’t deserve it. It makes one look stupid

franchasofficia:
British people left their developed country to come down to Africa covered by forests to colonize you all.


France did same.


Netherlands did same to South Africans.


Americans did same to Liberians.


Chinese are leaving their far developed country to African remote areas and here is a bush man from Ikirun village bragging about not leaving Southwest because Southwest is filled with milk and honey hahahahaha


Cowards, we understand the usual excuse of cowards

Oh you want us to colonise you? so you will blame us again in many years to come

franchasofficia:
The usual excuse of cowards

The real cowards are those who move enmasse from their region to escape the tragedy caused by their own kinsmen

Small by small their true nature will come out.

Na so dem do event for America collect gate fee

Make dem no bobo us, these ones go give shishi tire

Okealaaye:
Why do Igbo boys always resort to abuse and name-calling whenever the narrative is against their opinions and held views? It's like you're all sired by the same father and born of the same mother! Just imagine His Excellency Peter Obi becoming president - may God forbid a bad occurrence - then you'll convert all other Nigerians into slaves and confiscate their constitutional rights to free speech and their right to hold alternative views. In any case, it's been said that the fool resorts to abuse when he loses the argument. (Think a dimwit could write as I wrote up there? Either you don't know the meaning of Dimwit or you're preparing your own dictionary already!)

They don't have a healthy competitive spirit as they find it difficult to counter superior argument hence they resort to abuses.

Backpedal:
Nothing dey east for Yoruba indeed

But na dem full relief and Ochanja market

Even Nnewi

When you are well travelled (with an unbiased mind).
You will know the country is more diverse than you think

Indeed let's hope when one of them want to contest, we no go hear another story. You guys only believe in true diversity outside Igbo land

Dmacqh:
Truth hurt. How many Hausa/Northern state are been ruled by original Hausa people ? Even some Yoruba states like Kwara is been ruled by Fulani. You guys have invaded South West, next is South South. We Igbos have seen the trick, we will resist you guys.

Nigeria problem is Fulani. The Fulanization of Nigeria will never work. You guys have twisted other regions ( especially South West ) to hate Igbos & see them as problem. We are laughing. Funny you guys are minority.

Soon we will separate Hausa from Fulani. We will keep you guys in your position. Hiding behind religion to fight will be in vain soon. Ndi Igbo will forever be obstacle to your evil divide and conquer schemes.

Oga you guys are not that accomodating. Stop hiding behind Fulani wahala. Igbos are also very good land grabbers as well all in the name of developers

43Ronin:
Yes and it is good like that. You want to hold crusade in a land where there's violence and attacks. Let kumuyu & adeboye go to bornu for crusade nau. Abu sambisa no need prayers

I see Tolerance indeed, make we dey deceive ourselves

Truthdeypain:
You are a bastard God punish you and your uncle where did you see anyone asking for apologies because of soldier's, wars are fought by soldiers you useless pigs of morons pretending to be daft stupid and thoughtless.

Awolowo starved millions of women and children to death they died of kwashiokor those babies were the future of BIAFRA those are the war crimes we are talking about I couldn't give a Bleep about my grandfather who perished in the war they were men and men fight wars, they could kill each other. Soldiers kill soldiers, but by God you do not attack Civilians, you don't bomb unarmed people and systematically prevent food from getting to them, you do not starve the populace, little babies and children died. That is the fucking Genocide those are the people deserving of every form of respect and empathy.

The starvation of those millions of babies and women and children are the GENOCIDE that happened to BIAFRA

Cry from today till tomorrow it doesn't change anything my dear. In any war there are casualties of all kinds. If you choose to remain bitter, wetin be my own. If you choose to become a prisoner of war you never witnessed that is your damn choice. Your parents and forefathers feeding you with all sorts of narratives and you guys not asking them right questions but swallowing any info given are the ones to blame. Only you guys can heal or save yourself. Blaming, cursing, abusing others will not make anyone respect or show empathy. Everyone everywhere are all victims of all sorts. Only the Igbos feel the entire world owes them. smh

DCONE1:
Igbos are so dumb and entitled , as if the Igbos didn't kill other Nigerians during the war .we are also asking for apology for the people the Igbos killed during the biafra war.

don't mind them jare, My uncle died in the same war, I suppose dey ask for apology like so many non igbos.

Pogracious:
Hello Ancestors on this forum.I hail you all Please I want to ask a question and it is an observation.I noticed that anytime a colleague of mine help with transportation he always wants to drop me at my doorstep.Dont get me wrong as I don't have any issues with that but recently myself and him travelled to a far distance to go and work and on our return I felt for him as we have been driving for almost two hours,so I asked him to drop me in a near by road that I can easily access my house so he too can go home to his family and rest but he still insisted on taking me to my doorstep.So this arouse my curiosity if it is wrong to drop people on the road in the UK or any other consideration for this culture shock.
Pls what do you think?

It's called safeguarding. That's the culture when someone offers to give you a lift most times they take you right to your doorstep especially for your own safety and his own as well. That's why most folks don't want to do it, not that they are not nice but it's seen as an extra responsibility on their own part which they may not be too ready to do.

franchasofficia:
Yoruba men should please relocate to Anambra in their numbers and join in developing Anambra state by investing in Onitsha main markets, Awka markets, building material markets, by building schools, houses for rents, hotels, bars, filling stations, night clubs, industries, mechanic workshops, logistics companies, shopping malls, boutiques, babbing salons, real estate companies, spare parts retailing shops, pos centers, Transport companies, fast food restaurants, oil firms, manufacturing industries, farms, etc in Anambra and watch how Igbos will massively support them to rule Anambra.



Or do you expect Governor Soludo to provide free luxurious buses that will go to Osun, Ogun, Ekiti, Ondo, etc to pickup Yoruba people to Anambra and appoint them into his cabinet?

Oga nothing dey east wey go attract yoruba people there. If there was nothing in places like Lag, ogun and oyo, igbos will not be there in their numbers. Cost of living in the west is even cheaper than in the east which continue to make the west pull more people there. Doesn't make economic sense for people to migrate to where their hard earned money wil be totally wasted and life unbearable. Finally when a yoruba man wants to aspire higher in terms of luxurious living, the east can never be a consideration. Na to japa or go to places like Abuja or pH to chop oil money to flex

43Ronin:
Not only igbos if you look at most western countries there is a serious apathy to Islam because of what it brings along with it- terrorism/disregard for rule of law. As long as you are Muslim you are not getting any vote in SE or SS not because of tribe but because of religion. If Islam was as peaceful as christianity thered be relative peace.

Indeed a land where kumuyi and adeboye where threatened not to hold crusade. Una own kind of Christianity get k leg abeg.

OROSUNBOLB:
Igbo too won't allow it in their land and even when they are given such opportunity in a foreign land,they quickly term the land a "no man's land" ! Igbo are worse than the fulani, that's a fact !

Very true

Dmacqh:
That’s new Nigeria but if she’s Fulani... Calabar people need to be careful. All the original Northern Hausa State are ruled by Fulani mercenaries. They hide behind religion (Islam) & displace original land owners.

Already they have filled & occupied everywhere in Nigeria through Hausa/Fulani. Yar’Adua, Buhari are Fulani. 2023, they have presented Atiku, Datti, Kwankwaso, and to an extent Shettima.

Should we not be careful about the igbos filling up everywhere too? Hypocrites

Zeekaycn:
If she is a typical Hausa no problem but Fulani is a No!
Those people are the biggest problem of Nigeria go and verify.

I'm not a religious bigot but the body language of most Muslims in Nigeria especially those who claimed they have the most voting power obviously shows they ain't joking with their religion. To them every thing that should happen in and to Nigeria must favour their religion first. I pity for Christians.

You all think the hate on Ibos is about tribe? Hell No. It's the difficulty to penetrate with their religion through that region. The same way Muslims in general don't like Strongest Christians Nation like Israel and US. Read carefully their statements and body language.

Shame on you! Buy you won't mind an Igbo person taking up a political position in the North or west

Shettima needs serious coaching on public speaking.

The other day he referred to the VP as someone selling ice cream. They guy may just be another liability