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kode12:
She didn't just up and put that plan forward. She might have been too enthusiastic and vocal about it, especially at a time where there's a general apathy for the government, but she's got backers both within the party and outside who share the same ideology. They're going to come back, just watch out.

At a time when the pounds is down, her rhetoric was heating up the polity unecessarily. She has just been used and dumped Jare.

kode12:
Don’t rejoice so quickly oh. The seed has been sown

Trash can no dey finish for market, na there that draft immigration document wey she send over personal email dey go

hustla:
Any other farmer sef go shall collect wotoporously!

abi

leef2022:
BJ na 1.
RS na 2

Bj go dey sing like wike; as e dey pain dem e dey sweet us

Lexusgs430:
Have you read her resignation letter........

But seriously who are these small children playing ping pong in govt. e shock me o

Lexusgs430:
She is no longer brave o.......

What God can't do does not exist

Na so Truss sef go comot

candidtalk:
Bro, Buhari does not have a cohesive and consistent outlook to solutions-provision that leaders who have transformed nations do.

I campaigned for the man in 2014 and believed in him so much. Even viewed him a father of all Nigerians.

I am not saying everything he did is wrong. I always give him credit for his achievement as President.

Where I fundamentally departed from Buhari was his big failure, as one of the most authoritative Nigerian ever, to implement the fundamental reforms that can move Nigeria forward and set us up as a nation no individual mentality or parochial interest can hijack.

Buhari's biggest failing is his readiness to view the North as victims of Nigeria's reality rather than accept that Northern leaders are woeful, disappointing and the architect of the failure of the North.

No effort to use presidential power to favour the North, and deprive the rest of Nigeria, can ever work because the North lacks even the most fundamental requirement they need to make progress.

Buhari's brief was simple. Give tough and modernisation love to the North. Prioritise education, greater secularism, abolishment of the redundant almajiri system and promotion of gender equality in favour of Northern women. These are fairly simple concepts that have evolved the societies Nigerians flee to today.

Alongside that effort, Buhari can move on to deliver fundamental changes to ensure all Nigerians lives and property are safer.

He could have embraces State or regional policing instead of parochially enduring with our redundant and thoroughly failed NPF structure because he feels central retention and control of Nigeria's policing must keeps the North in charge of armed 'might'.

He would then embrace changes that would mean , if he had Awolowo-type vision, support for policies with far-reaching and transformational benefits in the long term for everyone even if punitive to some in the short term.

That is what fathers of nations, like Mustafa Kemal Ataturk of Turkey, deliver. Buhari did some things right but he failed woefully because he cannot see, appreciate and commit to the big picture on behalf of every Nigerian.

I don't blame him for that because Nigeria is a very diverse nation of very different people.

We will never change for the better until we accept we must devise a system that prioritises productivity and development above our ethnic, religious and sectional differences.

We try to hide these biases but it is in all of us. We should accept and use them positively by creating more autonomy for people to go and make.progress according to their affiliations and core beliefs.

I agree with you that buhari failed completely but that's has been my point earlier, hardly we will have any president to facilitate restructuring as it will whittle down their power. For example for a Nigerian president to allow regional police will be difficult as the IG will no longer take an order from him.

Another issue we must realise is that other regions which you have mentioned too have deep rooted socio cultural issues that negates modern development even in the SS and SE.

We need to create more awareness of these socio cultural issues and make them realise the negative effects to even their regions or else they will keep pulling us back

XerXers:
IGR is not a measure of economic progress. Stop parading ignorance. GDP per capita is the correct measure of economic progress. IGR only shows how the people are taxed. It's a very popular quote that no government can tax itself into prosperity. Heavy taxation is never an economic progress. Only God knows the type of education you people received in SW. See capital importation and GDP data and check Abia and Anambra.

Tell that to the marines

So people just like to be taxed more than their well being. Chai. They are not prosperous because they are being taxed and they keep moving there in droves. Omo see reasoning

I laugh in Spanish. IGR only shows the level of economic activities in any region. You can't tax what does not exist.

And if you check the states with the high IGRs they are the most ethnic diverse states which tells a story that people tend to move to places with more economic activities and opportunities for their well being.

Data cannot lie no matter how anyone want to spin it. Deal with the truth and let the devil be ashamed

candidtalk:
This is sacrosanct. Yet the problem is that most Nigerians are not significantly aware of the problems to then be able to discern solutions.

If, for example, Buhari had come in to insist on the transformation of the North through education of children, especially the girl child, then many of the problems of the North, and indeed Nigeria, could be solved.

The North could move towards modernity and progress that will start to reverse the awful statistics of how people of the region constitute 87% of the most poverty-afflicted folks in Nigeria.

Instead Buhari arrived with a feudal agenda others, mainly pro-Fulani bigots, hijacked as influential members of his 'inner crew' he excluded Southerners from.

We cannot keep going around in circles and waiting for individuals (Buhari, Tinubu, Atiku, Obi, Kwankwaso etal) we continue to hope will get it right.

Why not do what has made Western civilisation great which is to pursue the entrenchment of governance systems that will be resistive to abuse by, for example, a bigoted President and his cabal?

Why continue to leave Nigeria open to a 'winner take all' retrogressive Presidential system meaning any single individual, once President, can hijack all our lives by insisting we must all drink Akamu when some want Rice or Agbado. Lol.

If Nigerians are really productively educated then it is a change of system we must agitate for not the redundant concept of a messiah President.

Tinubu has made recent manifesto announcement about convening regional Committees, to ensure every region get the best out of their peculiarity and competitive advantages, to the glory of Nigeria.

It.was confirmation of what I have always personally suspected that SW Governors never made their unanimous demand for regional system of governance without the approval and direction of Tinubu.

This is why I personally support Tinubu to be President. I don't view him a messiah with a magic wand. No singke Nigerian is.

Me, you and every Nigerian are the messiah collectively if only we gain the system that unlocks out individual talents and potentials while giving us failsafe checks-and-balances options to ensure malevolent interest groups or individuals do not hijack our lives and progress parochially ever again.

For example, we all know State or regional policing can vastly improve our security. Yet we are all comfortable allowing a President resist this on behalf of 230 million people. Senators and elected representatives of their people, like Governors, just let Buhari and his crew do as they please supervising preventable deaths and misery.

We all know know restructuring , resource control, fiscal federalism etal can rescue Nigeria long term, regardless of whose Ox is gored in the short term, yet we allowed Buhari to announce that those agitating for restructuring are 'naive and dangerous'.

One man, because he is President, makes such an arrogant statement, with very detrimental impact, on behalf of 230 million people yet we all 'fem'.

Including legislators who are supposed to host oversight function over the executive arm and over Buhari.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.vanguardngr.com/2021/06/those-calling-for-restructuring-naive-dangerous-says-buhari/amp/

We must get rid of our current presidential system
That is the really fight and not any naive clamour for a messiah inTinubu, Atiku, Obi, Kwnakwaso etal.

Our problem will remain how to get most Nigerians thinking on the same page. Impossible in my opinion, because of tribalism and religious discrimination etal, and the reason I will always back what is shown below because I feel we all should not suffer because we do not have the same awareness. That is fundamentally wrong.

As bad as buhari is he wanted local govt allocations to go to the local govt directly, the state govs fought it even to the supreme Court. Even autonomy for state judiciary was resisted. Na who dey do us like this nah.

dreamxhaser:
One thing I have noticed of recent is, the SW are far ahead of other regions but my beloved north is waking up and doing great things these days. Thanks to kaduna state government for waking all the lazy mrorons we have as governors in the north.

Just look at how jigawa has surpassed kano in igr. Kaduna state government are aiming for almost 80b by 2023.

As for the SE, you lots should wake up and face reality, stop trying to compete with nothing against people ahead of you. Instead you should learn, the way the North learned some economic polices form the SW.

I see some a Abuja-Kaduna-Kano & Lagos-Ogun-Oyo economic belts in the future. The signs are there, just look at the rail and gas pipeline connections been built.

You capture it well. The SE should even be grateful for the second niger Bridge, that can begin to generate some good leverage if they know what to do.

Truth is you can't give what you don't have. We just make too much noise in Nigeria but when true statistics come out, you see folks go silent cos all lies will be revealed. We are still a poor country and we don't have enough economic activities to reduce unemployment. The only thing we do so well are parties and to show off and oppress others. Let everyone get to work and produce more results. Most state governments are not productive enough

happney65:
Lol. I can tell you categorically that Oyo is forcing out Kaduna and Delta out in the next one year and will be in the top four. You can see he is already close to Kaduna with just a few millions. This is 2021 and not 2022. Let me tell you what the Oyo state government is doing that will shock you in a year from now


1. The upgrade of the Ibadan airport to international standard. The Oyo state government is currently doing a massive upgrade of the Ibadan airport with a 500,000 litre capacity aviation fuel tank. This should be commissioned October/November.
With this planes will be diverted to Ibadan and not Ghana when the Lagos runway is full. More international airlines will come and fly from into Ibadan and not Lagos. Because there are facilities on ground to enable their operation.
You can fly from Ibadan to the US,the UK, Dubai etc and travel time will be cut off by going to Lagos. The airport road is also currently being dualised and the major road from Ibadan to Osun state is also being done and dualised. This is actually being done by Oyo and Osun states to enhance travellers coming in from Osun to fly from Ibadan

2.The Ibadan Circular road. This will be completed in about a year from now. The first phase is about 32KM and will also cur travel from people coming from the North passing through Ibadan. You do not need to pass through the city anymore, You are to bypass the Ibadan Circular road and burst out through asejire or burst out to the Lagos/Ibadan expressway way depending on where you are going. The road is currently being done by Craneburg and it will be tolled. And the tolling alone will be making billions monthly for the Oyo state government

3. The Bus terminals. Just two out of four are already commissioned this year and it is bring in huge returns for the government. The other two at Iwo road which is the biggest after that of oshodi in Lagos will be completed before the end of the year. So I can tell you a year from now when all these projects are completed, Oyo will be top four and be competing with the likes of Ogun. Would have left Kaduna ad Delta far behind

These are the kind of stuff I like to hear. Impressive

We are getting there gradually

KGD10:
Will you keep quiet? The creole who were the Yoruba returning slaves only developed Lagos island, not Lagos state which was under the western region under Awolowo.

They will keep muddling up lagos Island and the western region together to justify their false narratives. Its intentional

SouthSouth1914:
Hahaha! You must be lost in your own thoughts and reality! Please go back to your comments and read through completely before I will address your recent comment. I do not want to believe you have suddenly lost your sense of reasoning!

Was the digitization of revenue collection and LIRS not championed by the Tinubu administration?

Do you even understand digitisation? Abi na na the Portuguese do that one too

candidtalk:
Bro, no be small thing. Part of the problem is that others have serious hang ups, the Yorubas do not have, that will make productive nationhood difficult for them or anyone lumbered with them.

I.e over-religiousity, tribalism, clannish proclivities, resistance to modernity, chauvinism, disinterest in educating children. Especially the girl child that has been identified as the bane of African development etc, etc, etc.

I think Yorubas just need to stay focused and consistent. We must never deviate again. In opposition, around 2012-2013, our leaders created the DAWN commision and a well-researched and illustrated thesis, the only one of it's kind in Nigeria, detailing how Yorubas can circumvent 'one Nigeria' lunacy to make progress.

We then jettisoned all that once Tinubu worked to get us to the centre in partnership with the North who, under Buhari, have not been honorable enough to grant concession we assumed everyone would want to adopt per developmental and obvious evolution.

Issues like restructuring, modern policing, better autonomy for tiers of governance that actually cover Nigerian lives more comprehensively, etc, etc.

Yet Buhari and his crew returned us to feudalism effectively where the Norths control of the centre was used to entrench how they want to live rather how it is best for every Nigerian to live.

We must not compromise or be blindsided again. No government is greater than the people but Nigerians do not realize this. Yet I believe Yorubas do.

We must now dedicate ourselves to taking stands that will ensure permanent change in governance structure so we begin to gain the right to thrive and make progress even if others we share a nation with want to remain religiously extremist, terrorist, uneducated, socio-economically stagnant, bedevilled with insecurity etc, etc.

What is shown below is what we must fight for uncompromisingly.

I agree, but the other regions are still the challenge, will they truly agree? A lot of negotiation and concessions will still have to made. See how they resisted special status for Lagos. The other parts of Nigeria hardly supports any motion moved from the SW. See the resistance to Amotekun. It will just take some baby steps with gradual decentralisation of some things sha. Even electricity na problem, can they even allow even Lagos generate power without sending first to the national grid, lots of questions.

People just dey talk. Lots of pretenders here and there. They want to eat from everywhere shouting restructuring

SonOfEl:
For your mind, na una be the main dudes wey dey generate the IGR for Lagos.....lol..... Self delusion is real

Your question has been answered already. Yorubas own largest investments in Lagos. Market shops are not the kind of investments that increase IGR and that's why the SE is sadly behind. Data don't lie

SouthSouth1914:
Digitization in only revenue collection sounds fishy to me, why can’t this digitization be implemented in every other sector? Lagos could barely dispose its own filth/dirt. You claimed Tinubu built Lagos, this is an insult to past administration and current ones. The development achieved during the Ambode era and Fashola cannot be over emphasized!

Tinubu should apologize to all for making that shorty statement of “I built Lagos”. It is so embarrassing coming from a supposed presidential candidate!

You are sounding petty. This is not about tinubu and the subject was never about tinubu. I didn't even mention his name. Na bad belle dey worry una

PROUDIGBO:
I would imagine the so called 'pretenders from SE' are not the ones standing in the way of you controlling Apapa, Badagry and Lekki ports! You can even add in Murtala Muhammed airport as well, the 'pretenders' would not stand in your way insofar as other aspects of the dysfunctional system are restructured as well: ie, the 'pretenders' owning hydrocarbon resources (gas, oil and coal) found in their own region as well as rectifying the balkanisation of Alaigbo done in the past that saw parts of our territory wickedly removed from the whole and added to other states/regions just to try and undermine Igbo interests....Egbema, Ndoni and Obigbo being cases in point!

You may be daft, but i doubt your cunning and scheming elite like Tinubu are as daft as you, and i'm sure they would realise the consequences of the Yoruba taking over and being in control %100 of said ports in the SW while other regions/ethnicities control things in their own regions as well!

Oga the SW is not responsible for your woes. I remember quite well the resistance from SE folks when national stadium was to be handed over to Lagos during Ambode term. You guys are pretenders and you know it. You claim to support restructuring but within yourselves you know e no go pay una.

When wike was shouting about VAT going to the states, all the SE govs kept quiet, only Lagos state backed wike. I can't be deceived

SouthSouth1914:
The rubbish and ignorance is on you. Before post Tinubu era, there was a template laid out for the administration and collection of tax etc.

15 of 1959; the promulgation of Income Tax Management Act 1961; establishment of the Lagos State Inland Revenue Department; the promulgation of the Companies Income Tax Act (CITA) 1979; establishment of the Federal Board of Inland Revenue under CITA 1979; establishment of the Federal Inland Revenue Service.

It is noteworthy to credit the rise of Lagos to the Creoles who contributed to Lagos' modernisation and their knowledge of Portuguese architecture can still be seen from the architecture on Lagos Island. Electric street lighting was introduced in the city in 1898. Lagos experienced rapid growth throughout the 1960s and 1970s as a result of Nigeria's economic boom.



I am sure Tinubu was an administrator during the military era and also came back as a governor during the democratic dispensation. It is only a criminal and cheap thief who would say “I built Lagos”, a state which comprises of different mechanism to function! Tinubu built Lagos my foot! Nonsense! Agbado eating urchins without brains who are neck deep in Tinubu’s ass would agree without research or question!

Your anger cannot dispute data. I get am before no be property. The improvement we are seeing today in state like kaduna, in some years to come when they become so prosperous, shebi you will also say its the colonial masters that did it. You made no sense. Lagos does not collect federal revenue. Read my post again. Digitisation is the main reason for the results today. No Digitisation no exponential growth. Is that so difficult to understand?

SouthSouth1914:
Lol.., what a way you hijacked this little convo about IGR and turned it to cheap political motivation for your ilks. Tinubu only introduced and Licenced agberos in Lagos with connivance with the police, to verify this you can check the bridge leading to Liverpool APAPA. It is quite a shame.

Tinubu should stop saying he built Lagos. Tinubu should respect other administrators and governors before and after him. Especially Ambode and Fashola.

Ignorance and pure rubbish, The IGR you see in Lagos is a product of the Digitisation of the collection of revenue and the effectiveness of a state agency called LIRS. That the former chairman later became the Head of FIRS speaks volumes and also the improvement in the data and revenue of the FIRS from when the former head took over is evidence of what truly happened in Lagos. Data cannot lie. Like Obi will say, go and verify

candidtalk:
You're right and this really scares me for the SW. We must make the push to gain regional governance though.

If not the future of our children will be very bleak because of failure they won't be able to escape due to others who simply refuse to do the right things.

Yes, that's the solution, so things like military, border control, and foreign affairs can be managed at the Federal level. It's a big deal and tall order cos mhen imagine the apapa, badagry and lekki ports being controlled 100% by the SW, na there the problem be with other regions hence their resistance including the pretenders from SE. A lot is at stake. If an ordinary National stadium cannot be handed over to the Lagos state govt, it tells you the amount of resistance you'll have to restructuring and resource control. No be small gbege, I feel bad sha as if we are locked and tucked with people who feel they are assets when indeed they are liabilities pulling us back.

plaindealer:
When you see serious states like Lagos, Ogun, Kaduna and others staging economic summits, drumming up investments for their states and the SE states and their useless governors doing nothing, happy that their unproductive states and population are sitting at home doing nothing as dictated by terrorists, you can not help but shake your head in disgust.

you dey mind them? they will tell you say na economic summit we wan chop? Ignorant things

candidtalk:
IPOBians can never hide their bitter nature. Did you note the bolded below and what it means for the SE and future of ala Igbo?

Keep putting hateful mouth in Lagos affair while the SE continues to move backwards.

Just note that Lagos and the SW won't continue to accept refugees from the badly-led and regressing SE because of some redundant 'one Nigeria' nonsense. Fix up or your kids will face a break future..

You Igbos should be weeping at the difference between the SW and her nearest competitor the SS. Almost 700 billion.

Very scary for Nigeria and even scarier for the SW and SS because both are looking like the only viable regions in Nigeria while clearly you loudmouth haters and empty chestbeaters from the SE are just worthless.

Data cannot lie, this is why only the SS and SW are true agitators for resource control. This is also why the entire north can never agree to restructuring including the SE who are pretenders to believe in restructuring. Apart from the SW and SS, the rest of Nigeria is not too different from failed countries like Niger, Chad, Mali or Burkina faso who failures have also become a burden to Nigeria thru Northern Nigeria

Ttalk:
Did you notice that states that comes out of Western region performed better than other states.

The impact of Baba Awo, regional government really have positive impact on these states.

This is a prove that the Yorubas are better administrators.

Let's give Tinubu a chance, he will do better

even delta and edo which came out of the western region are even impressive though with Oil, delta should be doing far better. But my point here is there is a template and model Baba Awo had that is magical that perhaps needs to be looked into again and with some improvements be used especially by SW states to improve. Awo had a complete self-sufficiency plan, especially for the agric sector with dairy farms and farm settlements whereby by now we may not even be importing any farm produce into the SW if we had continued with such a plan.

happney65:
Rome wasnt built in a day. You should be grateful it is moving in leaps and bounds in Ogun and that is due to the ingenuity of Amosun. In 2011, Oyo was earning more IGR than Ogun. Ogun was earning less than 800Million or so. 8years later Oyo only added 1Billion in 8years. Instead of trying to increase it,the Govornor then was only trying to fight traditional stools most especially the Olubadan
Amosun came in and took it to about 10billion monthly before he left. Infact his commissioner of finance was called Mr IGR then and states tried to copy the amosun model. Kaduna actually did which payed off for them. Today in less than 3years Oyo has almost overtaken Kaduna and I know by the time that of 2022 is released Oyo would have overtaken Kaduna and Delta and be competing with Ogun

https://www.vanguardngr.com/2014/05/oguns-monthly-igr-hits-n4bn-n730m-2011/

I am grateful but there is something Ogun is yet to unlock. During the Obasanjo era, there was talk about the Lagos-Ogun Mega city project. You can't be having Lagos in your backyard and not taking a good bite of the Lagos Market, Yes am seeing some good movements but the state needs to open up more. The most impressive project I have seen is the Lagos-Ibadan rail track going through Ogun state. I need to see more stuff like that that will unlock the state more. The State needs more express roads (Trunk A roads) entering in and out of Lagos. Easier movement through rail, road, and even by water is key to unlocking the state completely. If the state needs to do lots of outsourcing to Lagos state to make it possible let it happen, no egos it's all about development and everyone benefits which will rub off on Oyo state too, and unlock the entire SW altogether. That's what I want to see.

bayplus:
Comments like this makes the Yorubas who are helping Obi wonder if it is worth it.

Without other tribes, Igbos alone cannot get Obi to Aso Rock.

An untrained youth felt he has the monopoly of insulting other people old enough to be his mother and that is ok.

I will do worst if I was her. Many hypocrites including Oby were all In govt at one time or the other. What did they do to advance the protection of Nigerians in diaspora?

The way the Obedients are going about it, they will hurt the dream of Obi becoming the president than those they cannot hide their hatred for.

For your information I am a proud yoruba and I don't think Tinubu should be our next president.

But I will imagine how the obidients will behave if Obi becomes the president and that is scary too.

Atiku is a no no for me.

So I may have to vote for unknown candidate because more people who could have joined the Obi are not too sure it is the right thing to do with the attitude of his followers on and offline.

You can insult everyone but that will still not translate into votes for you. If anything, it will lead to more votes against your candidate and further reduce his chances of getting the presidency.

You all are indirectly helping other candidates to gain more ground.

They have done the damage long time ago, no be today

abuja007:
I quite disagree with those saying there is little a governor can do to help improve IGR.
This report clearly shows VAT should go to the states not FG . 2. restructuring is needed. 3. Lies of APC is 2nd to none (Crude Oil discovered in Bauchi lol) 4. Many northern governors are billionaires but see poverty in their states. 5. Governors can give 10 years tax relief to investors, protect investors, and give land to investors who can add value to the state. This explains why Nigeria is the way it is.

You're very right, states can do more to attract investments

patrickcollins:
let it happen first, this type of system of Government we practice here is holding some states down, whether they work or not there must be monthly allocations.

What investments are in those states to generate such iGR? IGR no be magic o, na correct hardwork.

No body is holding any state down, they have their own executive, judiciary and legislature but most are sleeping on bicycle

Elliotwaveforec:
Ogun state, I hail o! 99pct increase no be beans

With proximity to Lagos, Ogun should be generating at least 300b am not impressed.

This is my state so am concerned

truthfinder319:
But some children of hate say their region has the highest number of millionaires. Inconsequential

So you believe those lies they will soon be here to tell you na dem they generate the Lagos IGR

patrickcollins:
I don't care about IGR, it does not translate to quality standard of living. Those states with big IGR are still shit hole, some of the indigenes are still very poor and not better off than those states u mentioned. Until Nigeria is restructured keep ur IGR to yourself. Again those u mentioned as landlock want to go their separate way yet they wouldn't allow them.

If they go their separate way, dem no go generate shishi

It's her personal handle so she's free to give it hot to anyone wey no respect themselves.