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artade:
IK Uche called Keshi first. A sign of a peacemaker. Good. He called Keshi 4 days after Keshi made the list. But during the call, Keshi didn't tell him "Boy, you're in the 25-man list o." Do you sense Keshi's pride here?



Keshi felt a long-standing misunderstanding with someone young enough to be his son should be resolved by having the team secretary call the player. And just hear the secretary... "Uche, do you have South Africa visa?" Uche: "No. Why are you asking?" Secretary: "Bring your international passport." Uche: "What do you need my international passport for?"

Keshi's pride is his greatest undoing. If Uche would take the initiative to call him first and Keshi would 'acknowledge' how good it is to hear his voice, why didn't he go ahead to inform Uche of his inclusion? Why did he have to use the team secretary, who foolishly adopted the wrong approach in asking for Uche's international passport? Keshi needs to grow up. Apparently, Uche is far more matured. If Keshi says he played for Nigeria for over 20 years, would he also claim that he wasn't a bossy player and a difficult one? Anyway, here are 2 key differences between Uche and Keshi:

1. Uche is far younger yet apparently more matured whereas Keshi is older but lacks maturity.

2. If Uche is anything close to being arrogant, Keshi is doubly arrogant. He was arrogant as a player and now as a coach. Keshi just had coaches who were tolerant, but Uche... He's cursed with a coach like Keshi.

Add to the list if you choose... Someday, the Super Eagles would have a coach... For now what we have in Keshi is sh*t...

bigwallace:
Uche dint ask to begged,askin for an xplnation isn't d same tin as I want u to beg me,pls let's get dat straight!!!if I wer in uche's shoes I wud do d same cos u dropped him for players like uchebo,ameobi nd nwofor.nd u still label him as a bad player who doznt play to instructions nd u just want to call him back asif notin went wrong!!abeg make keshi park well joor

ucyoma:
Mr Keshi pride goes before a fall

Swallow your ego n pride n call d young man back. He's good

This useless pride n ego of yours could be d reason u have been failing lately

manjiggy:
When Uche was in the team, what did we win?





Nothing.

ratiken:
Something is wrong with us Nigerians; we just hate progress. Way back we complained about indiscipline in the eagles camp and the influence players have on the national team coaches.
The team admin callled all the players to inquire about their passport status..... Not uche alone. Others responded positively while the arrogant uche did not. If Mikel, emenike, onazi etc would respond adequately, what the heck is wrong with Ike Uche.

He was quick to rush to media to deny the request to beg him, but I ask..... How often does he go to the media against his club coach or he wants to make us believe its been smooth sail in his club.

Uche is neither messi nor ronaldo. His last outing for the national team was extremely poor.. So what is the fuss about?

Umunede:
I watched that programme. He also said that NFF will set up a Technical committee that will compile and grade all our foreign players into Grade A, B and C based on the league they are playing and how regular they play in their club. He said there will be no way of inviting someone in playing in China when there is someone playing regularly in a top league.

thegoodjoehunt3:
He is totally wrong. Following his idea, Omeruo, Oboabona and Mba would never have been given a chance to play at the last AFCON.

If a Coach sees a player on the bench in Division Three Pakistan League and the Coach believes he can turn him into a star, the coach should be given a chance.

Coach Arsene Wenger signed Kolo Toure from Cote D'Ivoire. He turned out a star defender in the Arsenal squad.

The NFF should stop interfering in the Coaches job.

ikechime:
actually siasia has a sound technical ability . the only problem i know of him is that he is weak against Africa teams but give him European and he wound display technical ability .
how i had wished he was appointed as a partner with keshi for the world cup. they would have paired well instead of amodu .
however both of them were too careful with underperforming players. i so love the u 17 world cup iheanacho set .
imagine this pairing
COACH: STEVEN KESHI
TECHNICAL ADVISER : SAMSON SIASIA
ASST COACH : MANU GARBA .
let them just reason and team together for a world cup.
the world go shake!!!!

ikechime:
actually siasia has a sound technical ability . the only problem i know of him is that he is weak against Africa teams but give him European and he wound display technical ability .
how i had wished he was appointed as a partner with keshi for the world cup. they would have paired well instead of amodu .
however both of them were too careful with underperforming players. i so love the u 17 world cup iheanacho set .
imagine this pairing
COACH: STEVEN KESHI
TECHNICAL ADVISER : SAMSON SIASIA
ASST COACH : MANU GARBA .
let them just reason and team together for a world cup.
the world go shake!!!!

this is a very good suggestion, talking about solutions and not destructive criticism

miembamish:
Van-Gaal can equally make mistakes. He's not flawless. Hw on earth would Van-gaal go to de press and openly say dat Welbeck isn't a clinical striker ? It means he got no respect for his players. Keshi had beta start being humble, koz wen he falls, he won't rise again...

mechanics:
why did he recall him now, watch wat he's doing in stoke city, was it nt Moses dat helped us to win Afcon, Why did he nt bench Emenike? Wat has Emenike done afta Afcon? Keshi is bias, take it or leave it.

Daninya1:
There was a guy better than Kelechi iheanancho called bernard bulbwa.. He was putting him to the bench.. But he failed the MRI scan... Manu Garba is not a kind of coach to toy with.. No player in his squad is indispensable.. Taiyo awoniyi fit into Isaac success shoe when he was injured netting 4 goals in the tournament.. He is not Keshi that can't do without mike.. He looks at current form not club side. Iheanancho knows that pretty well and he keeps telling the media about it...

lastpage:
Your post is full of EMOTIONS but lacks substance!
First, highlight one single line where you saw the name of Siasia, in my post which you quoted! yes, go ahead and do so or STFU!
You come across as one of those people who cant set standards for themselves, talk less of doing so for others, you know the typical Nigerian that rationalise failure by saying because APC is a Thief, therefore it is acceptable that PDP too should loot or because Tinubu is a thief therefore there is nothing wrong if Jonathan loots us dry, afterall, he is not the first person to loot!

That is the kind of mentality that got us where we are today and that my friend, does not cut it with me.
if you take your time to "reason" on my post, you would deduce the following.

1.) keshi has tried and has been successful in the past
2.) Keshi's recent performance, since the completion of the Confederations Cup, has been going downwards.
3.) That second reason shows that he needs a refresher course, just like most big time coaches do refresher course (Jose Maurinho and Arsene Wenger was in one, a few weeks ago. if l can get the link, l will post it here). Keshi does not know it all and so has to keep abreast with current trends in coaching ..... l even suggested it should be done with FULL PAY to him.
4.) Any seasoned coach would tell you that at the level of the National team, you are not teaching players how to trap the ball or how to dribble or make a clean throw-in. They already know all these, that is why they are National team players!

What National Coach does is BLEND AND MANAGE FOOTBALLERS under his watch.
Once you as a coach can manage your players such that they understand themselves, become telepathic during play, understand and follow your tactics, then you are home and dry.

Keshi will benefit himself, if he learns how to manage players. Remember that these footballers are not your usual "well rounded/morally upright teenagers" (except for the likes of Odegbami, Adeolu Adekola, e.t.c who are University graduate Engineers). Most of them are very rude, egoistic and selfish. It is he job of the coach to know hoe to manage them (Man-Management) so that he can get the best put of them ...... Instead of taking to Tweeter to denounce your own player or banning your best "Striker option" because of some squabbles that can be avoided. Players will always be players;
Look at how current Liverpool Coach is trying to "manage" Baloteli (The same Player that was almost punching that Italian, former Man City Coach!) .. and we can see the difference already showing in Balotelli as he now marks and works for the team while maintaining a "level head", even in the face of provocation on the field. THAT IS "MAN-MANAGEMENT!

Tactically, no Coach is perfect but some are better than others. Keshi is still a long way off in terms of reading a Match!
Its not just by shouting at the side-line or chewing Gum endlessly that would give you the tactics of somebody like Sir Alex Ferguson!
The best way to learn "tactics" is to understudy those that know and practice it.

That is what my post is all about. I dont get involved in all those childish gang-ups against a coach or try to run-down keshi, just to promote Siasia. Both have the strengths and Weaknesses but anyone of them that wants to go far, will embrace Knowledge.

My take.

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dabossman: And Ikpeba calls himself an ex-footballer? He should be ashamed of himself. Do you ever stop building a football team? Should Keshi just stick to the team that won Afcon in 2013 even if some players loose form or are no longer at their best? Has Barcelona or Bayern Munich stopped building their team simply because they've won their leagues and the Champions League? Why do they bring in new players every season?

How many years did it take Joachim Low to build the German team that won the World Cup? There were at least 10 new players in that squad from the one that played at South Africa 2010.

Ikpeba, are you sure you're qualified to analyses football with this kind of reasoning. A football team is always going through building. It never ends.

Daninya1: I forsee coach Manu Garba superseding their records.. He is better than both Keshi and Siasia technically... We all see what lads did at the U. A. E... they play an all attacking football with flair like the catalonia.. They attack like a swarm of bees.. He is a coach that select players based on present form not on sentiment.. He is still building his team everyday.. I forsee him winning the coveted under 20 world cup that has eluded us for a pretty long time... He will lead the super eagles to Russia 2018 and do better than Keshi and Westerhoof... My two coins though...

lastpage: This is the problem with Stephen Keshi, nay any black man that makes a "little stride of success"... He now feels he is the next best thing after the invention of Microwave!

My own suggestion is that he (Keshi) needs to calm down and stop acting like without him we cannot win any competition; otherwise let him try his luck elsewhere.

But personally, l will prefer that NFF send him on to a sort of "Apprenticeship" under seasoned coaches like Maurinho, Acellotti, Van Gaal, (I would have mentioned the coach of my darling Arsenal but that "Arze Whinger" would only make him worse!

Let him spend Two years understudying them on "tactics and man-management" (especially man-management, which 90% what a National Coach does anyway).
During that time, his salary should be paid in full (with a proviso that he cant work for another country/club within 5years of being trained, else he must refund the country a certain amount equivalent to our loss or his gain, in training him)

He is definitely getting very short on ideas and is taking it out on his players.


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blackchief: I stand by Keshi when he applied for the SE JOb and still sand with he till date.
Nigerians,learn to treat your hero right,if not, we will be chasing our tail all the time. Amodu shaibu did a lot for this country and was push out for chains of white coaches which could not win the nations cup or qualify us for World Cup.

We are heading the same road again

kaorama: Well, am being careful not to attract the vengeance of FIFA upon Nigeria. Am not saying Siasia must be brought back, but when u check the no of matches eagles played and won under Siasia and compare it with the record Keshi has so far paraded u will know am not far from the truth. Untill the present coach of Chelsea wins a champions league trophy with Chelsea, he is still miles away from the coach that won them the champions league. The credit unit of winning a champion league is like that of wining an epl 10 times or more. Silver and gold are not in the same class

kaorama: Keshi's time in super eagle is up. That he won nations cup does not make him a good coach. Chelsea fc won champions league with a coach who has since then disappeared from the radar of the round leather game. I still believe Siasia is a better coach than Keshi, irrespective of the fact that Siasia could not qualify us for nations cup during his spell with the eagles. Keshi is preoccupied with doing business with the players than getting the best legs. How can Keshi say Kelechi is too young to play for super eagles? At what age did Messi start playing for his national team. Keshi took the world best U17 goal keeper, Alampasus to South Africa and never used him. He clung to the goalkeeper that was obviously deficient and caused us a lot of headache in the tournament. What kind of sentimental treatment is that? He should go, please.

mpowa: E,enike refused to raise is game when he doesn't have supplies like before again? throughout the world cup, Emenike played from the wing, and he's supposed to be our top striker. Has and ordinary football fan i noticed this and hoped Keshi would fix it after the world cup, but alas! a coach who gets 5m per month couldn't spot that, he keeps blaming his players.

Enyeama had been saving his as*ses if he make a mistake at anytime, he shouldn't be made to carry the responsibility for the failure of the whole team, when we actually have someone in the middle causing the whole problem for him in the 1st place. if he'll blame Enyeama, he should've blamed the whole squad first before getting to him. When a keeper keeps getting pressurized continuously, he'll definitely make mistakes eventually, but good coaches knows to well to cover there players, if Keshi was Van gaal, i wonder what he'd have said about Rooney's red card.

mpowa: Ok so he removed Ideye and replaced him with who? there are some players people where actually clamoring to leave the squad, but they hoped they'll be replaced with better players that we obviously have, but alas we get more inferior players.

Talking about managing big players, the Nigerian squad doesn't really have such big players that good coach can't manage, Drogba is no more playing full game for ivory coast and there's no problem, you can't shy away from your best legs because you're afraid of managing them.

mpowa: Nigerians did not call for the removal of Ideye, the issue most people have with Ideye is the final ball, putting the ball in the net, he's not a great finisher, but he's very good supporting striker, so people criticized when Keshi went to the confederation cup and our top striker was Ideye. Agreed Eminike was injured but we have other proven strikers, he ought to swallow his pride and call them - Uche, Martins, Obasi, Osaze etc. but none could be called because of one reason or the other.

mpowa: We have good enough players to prosecute African matches and even win the nations cup again, if Keshi has not been picking issues with all of them, if our best player had been playing, we would have picked at least 4 pts of the last two games, for Africa, our players are not too bad, but the team keep getting more inferior by the day. The next on the line is Eminike, he's already having issues with him too, he's even quarrelling with Enyeama, he's just patching it. we are not playing Brazil nor Germany, we're playing African sides and we're better than most of them especially the group we found ourselves.

You talk about players running to the media, what does Keshi run to when he wants to criticize his players or Nff, how does he announces his resignations?

Some players will definitely give the coach problems, but in the case where you're having issues with most of the players, especially those who'll make your job easier, then it's not the players but yourself, if we're playing with our best legs we won't be discussing qualifying by now.

spanzed: dats tru''does does players show lukworm attitude mayb b'cos dem no get competitor...just take mikel for example if someone is benching him small small...he wouldn't be forming Rambo on the pitch.

thegoodjoehunt3: It is funny how easy it is for people to criticise Coach Keshi and put the blame on Mikel.

Let me start with Mikel, he was clearly Nigeria's best player on the pitch against South Africa. Explain to me why Coach Keshi should criticise him to make Mikel haters happy?

As for Emenike, he was terrible. As for me, he was our worst player on the field.

If Coach Keshi complained about Emenike's performance, Emenike should hit the training field and improve his game.

Coach Keshi criticised Moses for losing form. Moses hit the training pitch and today, he is one of the best wingers in the English Premier League. He has been recalled by Coach Keshi.

Going to the media and complaining and threatening quitting is not the solution. Emenike should train, improve his game and team work play and the Coach will sing praises of his improved performances.

#TeamNacho.

abatically: I couldn't have said it better. Nigerians see emenike as a 'God' and that he is indispensable. So they always blame the coach when the team is not performing. He ad a good afcon but since then he has really dropped form and his ego on the pitch cannot be over emphasized. He sees himself as an automatic selection and that is affecting him. Its time he gets the stick so he can sit up and play at the level we all want. We can't keep defending underperforming players. Mikel has been made a scapegoat, but Mikel is not the only underperforming player in the super eagles.

No manager, I repeat.. No coach will do wonders with this set of players. Ever since the class of 1994, we haven't had a solid team. It has been from one manager to another , always blaming the coaches and we haven't kept a coach for 3 years. Tell me how can we build a team? The likes of lagerback, bora milutinovic, siasia, onigbinde, etc were all fired. It is time we give coaches a chance and accept we do not have the right players to make us play the way we want. For 20 years now we have put the blame on coaches, how about we accept the players are the one underperforming. Sack keshi today and we are back to square one because the next coach will be sacked after the nations cup and the cycle continues.

No player is indispensable. Redondo was dropped from the 1998 world cup squad for Argentina. I can remember Ferguson dropping Rooney to favor welbeck in champions league. Even Joe Hart was dropped by by pellegrini and it made him sit up and come back stronger.

naijanoni: Just stating d fact.
You were like he is also experiencing a drought at fenerbahce.
And i replied that 1 goal in only 3 starts this season isnt a drought.
He scored about 15goals in total last season.
I strongly criticized keshi for not inviting abiola dauda who is our most in-form striker in europe or uche/martins.
But i tell u put any of these strikers in our current team without creativity,they won't score too.
If emenike has been getting chances in matches and fluffing them or missing 1-on-1s/open net like ideye,that would be another thing.
But i cant remember when last emenike was provided a clear-cut chance at goal in the national team.

naijanoni: The turkish league season is only a month old.
Emenike has started 3 matches this season and has scored 1 goal.And thats Not bad.
No fenerbahce player has scored more than 1 goal this season,including his strike patner Moussa sow.

naijanoni: The op didnt post the complete story.Here's d pther part:-


I agree with emenike on this.He aint no magician.when theres no creativity in the team,it would be hard for him to score.though he didnt score at d world cup,he was one of our most important players.Who created d goals we scored at d world cup ?.We scored 3 goals,emenike created 2 out of the 3.
Due to lack of supplies and creativity from d midfielders,emenike who is supposed to be d finisher,takes up d creative responsibilities.
also its wrong to say emenike didn't perform after afcon.Emenike almost single-handedly qualified us for d world cup.Forgotten d brace against ethiopia and goals against malawi ?.
In all i think if we sort our creative problems,emenike would start scoring again.
its not as if he's had clear-cut chances and he fluffed them.Right from last yr to now, emenike hardly gets a single clear-cut chance at goal in all the matches we've played