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Gombs: What I am saying is that the law of only Levites would be priests was changed. This law was in the Old covenant.

Now we have a new priest and a new covenant. And that priest is of the order of Melchizedek an order that received tithes and blessed the tither just as Mal 3v8 says. Simple

No sir, you wrong. Lemme present it this way.

Abraham was pronounced blessed BEFORE he gave that tithe. Malachi tithe is bring it FIRST and then God will bless. Do you see the difference?

Malachi threatens with curse if no tithe is brought. Abraham wasn't threatened by a curse.

The law is a WHOLE and carries COMMANDMENTS e.g, 10 commandments, commandment to receive tithe etc. When the law changed, commandment MUST ALSO CHANGE...that's why Jesus said, A NEW COMMANDMENT I give....

Plus, if the old covenant is gone, why do we hand pick only tithe out of the old covenant? The analogy is: I represent the old covenant as an EGG. We can say the law is the WHOLE EGG...that is, you can't pick one and leave the others. So, say the whole egg is the law, the white part is the commandments, the yolk is the ordances etc

When it says the law Changed MUST ALSO CHANGE THE PRIESTHOOD. That's change of a priesthood right there. When it also says, there's disannulled of the COMMANDMENT going before? What commandment? He already to you the COMMANDMENT was to receive tithe. Which commandment is therefore disannulled if 'to receive tithe' is not included in such disannullment? plus any other commandment that may exist.

Now, when or if this egg is destroyed or even changed, do start hand picking the yolk that's what you want to eat? If the former egg was Brown on the shell and another one given to you,(change of covenants), is white shell. Do you peel off brown shell or white? Also, when your high priest already told you A NEW COMMANDMENT he gives, do you still follow the commandment of the old?

Gombs: That's even after spelling out the fact that the changed law was the law that said a priest from the descendant of Levi will only be priest and that law was in the old covenant o!

That Law changed hence we have a new priest in an order that received tithes and blessed the tither.

Bro, some folks just wanna argue

So the law that changed excluded THE COMMANDMENTS TO RECEIVE TITHE given ONLY to the Levites? Is that what you saying?

Bidam: PHEW!! when will you ever agree that tithing predates the mosaic law I ain't the one saying it.It's scriptures bro..Go back to the beginning of the thread abeg.
PHEW

Please change your attitudes. NOBODY here argued tithe didn't predate the mosaic laws but the issue here is, is the tithe before the mosaic SAME PRACTICE AS tithe under the mosaic?

@ All,

I don't know if my observation is right but Zikky is ACTUALLY seeing the 'hidden' deception in Gomb's questions. Gomb is asking questions based on WHAT THE BIBLE DOESN'T TEACH and he's making those questions look like WHAT THE BIBLE TEACHES as regards to ABRAHAM TITHE in contrast to LEVITICAL TITHE.

One have to pay close attention to those questions, read the lines well and point out hidden deception in those questions BEFORE THEY CAN OR SHOULD BE ANSWERED PROPERLY.

So, up till now, Image123 cannot produce ONE SINGLE SCRIPTURE that early Christians gave tithe?

SMH

Gombs: I cancelled the above because its not related to the topic nor my post.....Open a thread if you want to discuss Melchizedek at lenght.

Cheers

I

Why should he open a thread for what is already been discussed here? If you want, you can open the thread but I suggest the discussion continue here so we can APPLY IT TO THE TITHE TEACHINGS.

Gombs: Let me school you a bit

It begins with a quick summary of the story in Genesis
14:
"This Melchizedek was king of Salem and priest of God Most High. He met Abraham returning from the defeat of the kings and blessed him, and Abraham gave him a tenth of everything" ( Heb. 7:1-2 ).

First, the unusual name is explained. The Hebrew word melek means king, and tsedek means righteousness, so his name is explained as meaning "king of righteousness."
And since shalom means peace, he was also the "king of peace" (v. 2).
These titles are significant because Melchizedek prefigures Jesus Christ. Then we are told that Melchizedek was "without father or mother, without genealogy, without beginning of days or end of life, like the Son of God he remains a priest forever" (v. 3).

However, Melchizedek had no parents that are mentioned in Scripture. His position as priest did not depend on his parents or his genealogy (unlike the Levitical priests). His priesthood was a different kind, a different order. Similarly, Scripture says nothing about his birth or death (unlike the patriarchs, who are carefully chronicled). He did not create a dynasty of priests, each dying and passing the priesthood to a son.


Now from the above we can see that the Levite's priesthood aint same as Melchizedek's. But the bible said he had no Parents..how then did you conclude he was a man? Bible also said he like the Son of God will be a priest forever! Hence making tithing a eternal principle.

To go further

We might say today that he came out of nowhere, and then disappeared. Nevertheless, he remains known as a priest even today. "He remains a priest forever ... is declared to be living" v 3 & 8. (A similar thought may be in Luke 20:37-38 —the patriarchs are among "the living." This mysterious Melchizedek is the prototype of Jesus Christ.

Psalm 110 predicted that the Lord would be a priest in the same way: not according to genealogy, but by special appointment. This order of priests was significant in several ways:

1) it was more important than the Levitical priesthood,
2) it implied that the Levitical priesthood was temporary and
3) the new order was permanent. Greater than Levi

Although little is known about Melchizedek, we can discern that he was very important. Abraham gave him 10 percent of the spoils of war (v. 4 of Heb 7). The old covenant required the Israelites to give 10 percent to the Levites, but Abraham gave 10 percent to Melchizedek even though Melchizedek was not a Levite (vs. 5-6).

Heb 7v5-6 AMP
5  And it is true that those descendants of Levi who are charged with the priestly office are commanded in the Law to take tithes from the people--which means, from their brethren--though these have descended from Abraham. 6  But this person (melchizedek) who has not their Levitical ancestry received tithes from Abraham [himself] and blessed him who possessed the promises [of God].

The man was getting priestly honors before Levi was even born.From this, I constructs a hypothetical argument: "One might even say that Levi, who collects the tenth, paid the tenth through Abraham, because when Melchizedek met Abraham, Levi was still in the body of his ancestor" (vs. 9-10).

We all know that Levi didn't actually pay tithes to Melchizedek, but in a figure of speech he did. The point is that Abraham is greater than Levi, since Abraham is Levi's ancestor, and Melchizedek is greater than Abraham, since Abraham paid tithes to him, so Melchizedek is greater than Levi.

Verses 6-7 emphasize Melchizedek's greatness: He not only received a tithe, he also blessed Abraham.

"And without doubt the lesser person is blessed by the greater." NIV

Abraham is the lesser person—but the real point of comparison being made is with Levi. Since Melchizedek is greater than Abraham, he is also greater than Levi, and—most important for the book of Hebrews—his priesthood is more important than the Levitical priesthood. The Levitical priests die, but Jesus has been made a priest forever after the order of Melchizedek, a priesthood that is more important for
our salvation.
Now let's see how a new priesthood implies a new law

Now I observe that "if perfection could have been attained through the Levitical priesthood (for on the basis of it the law was given to the people), why was there still need for another priest to come—one in the order of Melchizedek, not in the order of Aaron?" (v.11). I await your answer o!

Note in the middle of verse 11 that the law was given on the basis of the priesthood. The law was designed with the Levitical priesthood in mind—the law and the
priesthood went together. But neither the law nor the priests could bring people to perfection. That is why
Psalm 110 spoke of another priesthood.

The descendants of Aaron would be replaced by a better priesthood, a better priest—and that has enormous consequences:

"For when there is a change of the priesthood, there must also be a change of the law" (v. 12).

Q: What law was changed?
A: The law that said only
Levites could be priests.

Q: Which law said that?
A: The old
covenant.

Q: Do we follow the new Priest?
A: Yes

Q: of which order is he?
A: Melchizedek

Q: Did the order of Melchizedek receive tithe and blessed?
A: yes

Q: Why then do people say malachi 3v8 was written to the those under the levitical priesthood even tho the speaker talked about blessing u after u bring the tithes?
A:

Q: did levital priests bless the tithers?
A:

But first, let me make certain basic facts clear.

"He of whom these things are said belonged to a different tribe and no one from that tribe has ever served at the altar" (v. 13).

We are speaking about Jesus, of
whom it is said that he is a priest after the order of
Melchizedek—but Jesus was not a Levite. He belonged
to the tribe of Judah, and no one from that tribe was
ever a priest, and Moses did not authorize anyone from
Judah to be a priest (v. 14).

"And what we have said"—that is, that the law has been
changed—"is even more clear if another priest like
Melchizedek appears, one who has become a priest not
on the basis of a regulation as to his ancestry but on the
basis of the power of an indestructible life" (vs. 15-16).

Jesus was appointed as priest not by a law that focused on genealogy, but because he lives forever at God's right hand. From this fact alone, we can see that the
Law of Moses is no longer in force (levitical priesthood and their law of tithing).

"The former regulation is set aside because it was weak
and useless (for the law made nothing perfect), and a
better hope is introduced, by which we draw near to
God" (vs. 18-19).

Why then Melchizedek? Why do we tithe in the faith of Abraham to Mechizedek?

Because his priesthood continues forever
Because Jesus is of same priesthood
Because Jesus and Melchizedek are priests with no genealogy
Because Melchizedek is not a levite whose priesthood were truncated
Because though Levi was from Abraham's loin folks though he paid to Mechizedek (Heb 7v9-10 AMP), hence reference was still made to Melchizedek, Why? Cos he has no roots, no genealogy, he was immortal


Don't come here and lie that he was a man!

This is exactly what I've been waiting for from tithe teachers.....to be discus later.

MostHigh: Who else could he be?

Are they not both same high priests of the most high God?

Who else can occupy that office within the order

Its called inspiration.

Gombs: Nobody said Jesus is same as Melchizedek

But Jesus is of SAME PRIESTHOOD as Melchizedek

Ask your brother, Image123

MostHigh: His teachings is all about obeying the LAW OF MOSES MATH 23:2 The teachers of the law and the Pharisees sit in Moses’ seat. 3 So you must be careful to do everything they tell you.

The sermon on the mount is pure LAW and that is why you cannot Identify with it.

Yashua quoted from the book of deutronomy more than any other book in the torah, fact.

Deutronomy is a reminder of the LAW.

Dont be the Lawless man.

You're dishonest in handling the word. Why can't you finish quoting what Christ said in that verse?

Saying, The scribes and the Pharisees sit in Moses' seat: All therefore whatsoever they bid you observe, that observe and do; but do not ye after their works: for they say, and do not.

What then are they doing (as works) that Christ said disciples should NOT do?

christemmbassey: may be we should do a teaching on this, sm ppl think Jesus is Melchizedeck or shares d same rank. God bless u bro.

Seconded!!! I'm actually hoping on this too. Infact, Image123 and 'some' hold that Christ is Melchizedek.

debosky: Goshen this is unnecessary - we do not need to insult our fellow brethren because we disagree.

I implore everyone to refrain from using abusive language - let us focus on the subject of discussion.

I do not say endorse what you consider to be wrong teaching, but the language amongst brethren should not be so.

OKAY bro. Please unquote me as I edited my comment. God bless you. You are one of my respected brothers in the Faith. You are blessed.

You don't have to go too far. Ask the Corinthians CHRISTIANS. Were they taught to CONTINUE to sin or in their acts of sin? NO!!!

Candour: My bro, watch them perform an Houdini act now. They'll say God only gave the ten laws on mount Horeb when he spoke to Moses and they obey the ten forgetting that Sabbath is one of the ten and they don't observe it.

When you remind them tithe is not part of the ten commandments, they run to Abraham for defence saying tithe came before the law. When you tell them Sabbath even started in Eden and God himself observed it, they'll run to Heb 7 and say they pay to Jesus directly now through sales agents on earth of course.

When you tell them Heb 7 actually nullified tithes, they'll say it is revelational knowledge and the thing dey work o

I hope I didn't pre-empt anybody sha?

and rolling on the floor.

Bidam: You see how you re filled with pride abi? That's why Ayoku is poles apart from you because your post always reeks of pride and ego..It is not the number of years that you've been in the faith that matters but actually the quality of time you've spent with the Lord.Your other post are not worth replying because they are full of errors and misconception about me.Thanks.

Don't worry. The Spirit of the Lord will help you and me too. Go and pray about my advice. I still love you as my brother. I will never dislike you because we are brethren but allow the Spirit to speak to you when another brother gives a godly advice. Again, I don't mean to discredit you, we all function as different parts but one body.

Alwaystrue: And that is why we spoke of righteous requirement of the law....the law in our hearts. The Pharisees thought Jesus had broken the law of Sabbath, what they did not realise and many do not realise is that is a deep law. Jesus said all the law is summed up in love. How can keeping the Sabbath be a law of love? Lol.
If we check our bibles well and study it with eyes of the spirit, we will see why Jesus actually did not break that law at all and how it actually relates to love.

You're alwaysLIAR!!! Did the Apostles teach righteousness of the law to the church? When the law was written, was it written in their heart of the children of Israel or on stone? The same law that was ministry of death and condemnation? And who told you Jesus did not break the law? Christ broke the Law BUT SCRIPTURE SAY HE DID NOT SIN. Keep deceiving yourself. You are on your own but we will keep refuting you when you make such statement above.

Image123: ~ First century christians gave tithe and the Bible never ondemned tithe, deal with that. No one has said google and wikipedia are rubbish, you misunderstand the scriptures, i'm not surprised at continual attempts to twist words.

If you can't produce evidence of the above from the word na wha for u.

theoctopus: You have posted this before and I asked you a simple question which you deliberately ignored.

If you are ok with practicing Malachi 3:10, why dont you also practice all the other things in the law like observing the Sabbath, etc? Why did you choose only tithing and leave the others?

Simple question bro!

No, BIDAM will tell you those are done away in Christ as SACRIFICIAL laws. Challenge Bidam to produce ONE SINGLE VERSE, FROM GENESIS TO REVELATION where bible says some laws are moral, some are sacrificial and some like tithe ARE CARRIED OVER INTO THE NT, I can guarantee you, he will never show up in this thread with one single proof but dodging and trying to change the game.

Bidam: Lol,all because i believed in tithes.olboy stick to your revelations let me stick to mine.Point of correction i am not a law keeper.You are actually going way offline here. I do things as instructed by the Holy Ghost.You are also derailing the OP.

Not only because you believe in tithe but also you are dishonest. On this thread, you praised and embraced revelation shared by Ayoku777 because, you can gain from it, selling it to your tithe customers and use it to cajole them, you didn't embrace that revelation because you appreciate it as God's truth hidden in the law. You will embrace one and discard the other because it affects your oil source. Let same Ayoku777 teach on tithe, you will say oh, nooooo, it was before the law and eternal principle as if tithe is God or don't you know the meaning of 'eternal'?

Since, you been studying the law, how come you haven't shared kind of revelation like that of Ayoku? You application of the law is, you teaching it as a means of perfection to Christian and that's why I often challenge that your teaching. I do not say all the above to discredit you as a brother in Christ but to call you to order. One day, you will remember and perhaps thank me for this advice when you become a great teacher in the body of Christ and the advice is, stop studying NT with the lens of the OT but rather, start studying the OT WITH THE LENS AND REVELATIONS OF THE FINISHED WORKS. PUT ON THE WHOLE ARMOUR OF GOD AND GO BACK TO STUDY THE OT, YOUR TEACHINGS AND CHRISTIAN LIFE WILL CHANGE.

Thank you!!!

shdemidemi: It remains a miracle how people miss the gospel of Christ or mix it with that of the law. Apostle Paul through the inspiration of the Holy Spirit presented a gospel that imputed righteousness apart from the law. A righteousness separate from the law but mankind would fight all they can to allude righteousness to themselves.

The law could not nail sin, it couldn't reveal the sinfulness of sin but Christ came in the likeness of sinful flesh and nailed sin once and for all.

The truth is, many of our Christian brothers and sisters are still carrying the Law consciousness and using that to interpret or live grace in the new covenant.

And this is my fight, you have to first remove this consciousness of the law mentality from church people before you can ground them in the Grace of Christ otherwise, one will be teaching grace to law conscious audience and all they will see or interpret is, everything is sin.

Imagine a Christian asking if it is sin to sit at the back in worship gathering? What do you think it's going on in the mind of such? In deed, the mind needs to be renewed to RECKON with the finished work of Christ.

ayoku777: Yeah, we are led by the Spirit into the spiritual realities they represent.

What people like Bidam and most law keepers don't understand is what you doing, bringing out the reality or substance out of the shadows of the law. What they do is they teach the law as good things to come instead of shadows of good things to come. I'm late for work, just to quick type. See you later!!! That's what I'm out to destroy or tear down!!!

MostHigh:

Thought you said you are out to destroy the LAW.

This your song is a new tune I never heard before.

Never heard you say "study the law"

And before I forget there are millions of christians (Easten Orthodox and Oriental orthodoxy) please note "not christopagans" that still observe literally and physically certain feast days, the sabbaths and vows as is commanded within the torah.

Then those people are simply following SHADOWS, not the SUBSTANCE!!! And with the SHADOWS, the worshipers are never perfect, coming to maturity and they keep repeating same rituals year-in-year out!!!

Bidam: And goshen is telling us to tear out the OT..see RHEMA!!!! olboy' who taught you these revelations abeg?

You be olodo!!! Quote me where I said the above. That's why you read both scriptures and people's comments BUT YOU DON'T UNDERSTAND. I have always said READ OR STUDY THE OT WITH THE EYES OR LENS OF THE NT. That's when you get the revelation of the word. The law was a SHADOW of GOOD THINGS to come, so when u studying it, don't interpret as ENFORCEMENT OF IT'S PHYSICAL ACTS ON BELIEVERS but as good things that is to happen to believers. Do you physically or literally carry out one of the feasts today?

^ Okay bro. I'm off to sleep now, just for 4 hours. It's sleep o clock. Enjoy the thread.

idumuose: Bro I also noticed it. Ɣ☺u are right.
Can I ask this question.I thought there is a high priest in israel(using
Present tense) how does he receive his tithe or is the bible silent
on whether a high priest receives tithe or not.The priest(s) receive
A tithe of the tithes of the levii correct?I assume the priests who collect tithe
are not one but many priests,right? But at any given period,there is only ONE
high priest,right?
I await your answer please.
God bless.

Hebrews 7:8 is another thing I will love to discuss soon. But for now, it's sleep o'clock for me here. I will help my brother christemmbassey attend the question later but no rushing o.

Tgirl4real: 1. You and Goshen are fond of asking funny questions. You come with the attitude of a teacher all the time and never willing to learn.

2. The simple question is "how do we know you are saved without showing fruits of righteousness?

1. You must ask questions to learn and query what you learning. In fact, to understand the bible, you must question and reason with the Holy Spirit. That's how you\we learn. I question every verse of scripture and its application to understand what it means and\or says. You shouldn't be afraid of being questioned in what you teach or say, that's how we know you understand what you saying and that you well grounded in the word. Peter said, you should be ready to explain reason for why you believe or for your faith.

2. On this question, we're on same page but, since you're saved; have you sinned? Will you sin in future? This is different from showing fruit of repentance, yes, you will live out Christ and people will see the new life of Christ and the light of Christ in\through you but does that mean you can't sin anymore?

Tgirl4real: @ Goshen,

Continue what exactly? I'm not ignorant of what you posted, neither did I say I don't know what scriptures say about Grace n salvation.

I will only leave you with this scripture:

Ephesians 2:8-10King James Version (KJV)

"For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God:9Not of works, lest any man shouldboast.10For we are his workmanship, created in Christ Jesus unto good works, which God hath before ordained that we should walk in them."

It's a complete package. U are saved so that you will do the works of your father just like your master Jesus Christ.

I agree with you on this one that something changes in the life of a Christian when he\she comes to the Lord. Such Christian is now carrying a new life of Christ and should live it out to people around him\her but the question is, will he or she never sin till death? If he\she will sin, should he\she continue to commit same sin over and over again?

Tgirl4real: Very well sir.

You are free to post it.


@ Drummaboy,

If we are preoccupied with pleasing God, we shouldn't be bothered about those preaching tithe. Don't you think so? After all, we should leave God to judge the works.

If you know the danger of believing a false gospel, you wouldn't say that.

The ONLY false gospel is the one OTHER THAN THE ONE AND ONLY GOSPEL OF GRACE. The gospel of Grace is what was handed down to the church, you and I. That is, the gospel of preaching and teaching CHRIST and his finished works the more. The more Christ and his fullness is taught, through the gospel of Grace (of Christ), the more sin vanishes. You insult the blood of Christ if you infer the gospel of Grace as poison.

Why do we have many churches and still, ashawo plenty, armed robbers are uncountable, corruption even in the body of Christ and all manners of sins abound? Is it because people are not hearing the word of God? No! But the word of God people are hearing from the pulpit today are GRACE + LAW. One one hand, they preach we're under Grace and on the other hand, to live by works of the law, thereby FALLING from Grace, that saved in the first place.

Preachers strengthens and REVIVE sin through their messages instead of revealing the Grace of God in Christ that cures sin. The SIN REVIVAL messages of the Law of Moses is the cause of pollution in the body of Christ NOT the Gospel of Grace. When every Christian understand (and not abuse), there will be empowerment through Grace (Christ being exalted) to live a Godly and righteous life.

For I was alive without the law once: but when the commandment came, sin revived, and I died. Romans 7:9

The sting of death is sin; and the strength of sin is the law. 1 Cor 15:56

The above ^ scriptures revealed the reason why there's revival of sin that we see today, not the preaching of gospel of Grace. In fact, when you truly understand Grace (fullness of Christ), it is Christ and his fullness in you, teaching you to live Godly for God.

For the grace of God (Christ) that bringeth salvation hath appeared to all men, teaching us that, denying ungodliness and worldly lusts, we should live soberly, righteously, and godly, in this present world; Titus 2:11-12

^ Christ (Grace) is the CURE for sin!!! Teach Christ (Grace) the more, sin fades away. When you see people sinning, it is because they have the strength of sin or have empowered themselves to sin through the Mosaic teachings.

@ theoctopus,

Great job !!!

Tgirl4real: Goshen,

the intent of this thread is clear from d OP.

It's a call to repentance. A call to check ourselves and what we truly believe.

I didn't post my response to Debosky to say he is preaching a distorted gospel of grace, we were having a discussion, so you will do well not to conclude hastily.

I really don't fancy your style of throwing questions that can be easily deduced at me, but I would indulge u. To answer your question briefly, there is nothing like the gospel of grace.

The ONLY gospel I know preached from Gen to Rev is the message of God's kingdom which can be simply put as:

"repent for d kingdom of God is at hand"

John 3:16 sums it up.

1. Response to the highlight in RED. You said, there's nothing like the gospel of Grace.

But none of these things move me, neither count I my life dear unto myself, so that I might finish my course with joy, and the ministry, which I have received of the Lord Jesus, to testify the gospel of the grace of God. Act 20:24

The gospel of Grace of God is what Paul, the Apostle RECEIVED of Christ Himself. How then did Grace of God became a gospel? It's very simple. In the OT, it was Christ CONCEALED and HIDDEN. In the NT, it is Christ REVEALED.

And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth. For the law was given by Moses, but[b] grace and truth[/b] came by Jesus Christ. John 1:14 & 17

Now, let's follow the precept. Paul said he received a gospel from Christ and called it gospel of Grace. How did he call it 'gospel of grace'? if not the Lord Himself that gave it to him as he said he 'received' it from the Lord.

John 1:17 said grace and truth CAME by Christ. BUT, Law was GIVEN by Moses. It can GIVE you a gift without you seeing me or knowing me. I can send you something without COMING to you. BUT when I COME, I come in my fullness and I come for a relationship - so you can KNOW me beyond giving you something.

This is the an analogy. When the Law was GIVEN, the people did not know God as a way of RELATIONSHIP. But when Christ came, he said, I am the TRUTH. John said Grace and truth. If Christ is the TRUTH, it also means he is GRACE in person who have appeared to us from the Father. When we hear gospel of Grace, it is not a teaching, it is a revelation of Christ because Christ is GRACE OF GOD wrapped in TRUTH. Jesus also said, you will KNOW the TRUTH (me, Christ) and the TRUTH (Christ) will set you free. This Grace, preached is the gospel of CHRIST preached. It is not being preached as a compliment to the Law that came by Moses.

2. The ONLY gospel I know preached from Gen to Rev is the message of God's kingdom which can be simply put as: "repent for d kingdom of God is at hand"

The ONLY one gospel is the Gospel of Grace given BY CHRIST Himself TO THE CHURCH AFTER HIS RESURRECTION, starting with the Apostles.

I marvel that ye are so soon removed from him that called you into the grace of Christ unto another gospel: Gal 1:6

Another gospel means there's ONLY ONE - the gospel of grace of CHRIST. He says, removed FROM grace of Christ unto ANOTHER GOSPEL. This means, grace of Christ is a gospel we are not to be removed from UNTO ANOTHER GOSPEL.

Lemme hear your view, if necessary and we can continue.

shdemidemi: @ alwaystrue and Tgirl

Are we under any covenant as Christians?

Welcome my dear brother. I was just thinking of calling you on Thursday or Friday. As you know my job schedule, it's still the same. Anyway, I will still call you anyway.