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holatin:
yoruba re d most respecful tribe in d world

They are cowards too, thats were the respect come from

Benin in ancient times were horrific,the British were always greedy people

Two great empire meant themselves and clashed the strongest prevailed benin never knew how it felt to be weak or loose a war, but all thesame both empire of today are shadows of itself nobody reigns forever tho

Dedetwo:
The Oba of Benin never controlled any area beyond the boundary of Benin and Igbanke. Any Oba who attempted anything southeast-ward regretted such dream. Agbo is still loaded with captured Benin people.

Before you begin to lie in public first learn to know what you are lying about, you're a joke to existence..... If this words were coming from the mouth of a dog, i will appreciate them, but i would still have a laff at the ignorance...... But you my friend you're a big joke......

MetaPhysical:
I don take plenty picture as we dey come through different villages. After you pass Onitsha rest of Iboland is like the village my great great ancestor lived in. When we reach Owerri I was delighted, its lively. APC tried for Imo State.

Sam Mbakwe is a great legend here people love him and everything is referenced to his time.

Ibos are bigots. Every conversation is about Yoruba, afonja, iberibe. They are bloody bigots. I dont understand their language but i can pick when they talk bad about Yoruba. I didnt want to show im Yoruba but few of them in the bus knew.

Hey, look here,.....Ibo girls are ready to fvk anything from Westside. Come see as they rush Ibo guys that dropped off at Onitsha. Chai!

I don turn to undercover photographer, i dont want them to know what im doing or who i am. . I go load them when i return. This is Ngwa territory, the legendary Arochuckwu and Abiriba, I want to return home in one piece.

Shut up show your potor poto region, igbos now get mouth you nor go fit try this nonsense with edo dem find you fall you, you go fall like fowl wen cold kill

Even the edo boy wen mention nor know who u b for nairaland... Mumu


Yoruba are cowards

SaintBeehot:
I don't think this guy knows what he's spewing, don't waste your time on people who don't read but listen to stories they're told by their elders.

Funny enough i should be the one saying this am going to make history when thread drop watch out it will be an hit back to back with provea flying in and out....

MetaPhysical:
Really? You want to disgrace your Omo n'Oba? Go ahead, I dare you. Hit it....

I will trust me, i will create lots of threads for it you will be tsgged

But for the main time i want to see what makes you believe our oba is yoruba... Lol

TAO11:
https://www.nairaland.com/5846195/benins-owners-ogboni-confraternity-olokun/22#90642651

TAO11 TAO12 give up you have lost it, i can read through you, you better stop feeding the hate, bro we conquered your ancestors and the oba was not of a Yoruba offshoot, i see how you have to carry all yorubas as brothers in your comment to gain support bro give up, and tell d truth if i was you i quietly find a new hobby

If you find a new hobby, we can both agree on that new interests but for this you have lost it


Maybe nextlife yorubas will conquer benins and sell them as slaves but not in this life bro

TAO11:
cc: Yujin

Gayboy, your so-called "our previous thread" is this same thread.

Notice how your coward slave, Etinosa was rubbished and caused to run for dear life:

https://www.nairaland.com/5846195/benins-owners-ogboni-confraternity-olokun/22#90642651

You not even ashamed you will rather sun your dirty linen in the open to avoid a bigger mess,

He flawed you am not saying just to spite you but he did you had to result to a Yoruba article and held on to it like your bf dick

MetaPhysical:
Call the police...this guy is high!

Mugu show mw how our oba is of benin ancestory i made that statement that way to fish yoyr runaway sister



Show me if there was benin-ife connection like me pour all my evidence here to disgrace you and your people


If you dare me, i will create a series thread every week with evidence to disgrace you and the entire yoruba for lying our king is yoruba

Eweka made those controversial statements for diplomatic purposes it has no historical bases


Please don't push me

OmoOlofin:
According to the weak Edo slave above:

However, Oba Ovoranmwen wasn't born until the year 1857, and he didn't become Oba until the year 1888.

But miraculously, he had been chatting with a certain bRiTiSh CoMmAnDeR since the year 1820. Is God not wonderful??

[I have a screenshot already in case you're thinking of editing your comment]

cc: Trinitykey, Yujin

So what changed, since u corrected the error,
If it was oba ovaramen cant u use your head and accord it to the correct one,


..... You want to force our oba to be of yoruba ancestory to make up for your coward ancestor... Lol in so doing you have lost yourself, while i particpate in various thread politics, romance, culture, you only participate in culture and restricted your self to that pertaining to benin....


You have consumed yourself with self benin hate i decide to write ovaramen in that statement because it was all a bait to fish you out, to talk instead of giving strokes


After am done with you on nairaland you will have nothing to leave for than to only commit suicide cowardly like your ancestors awolowo and Afonja

Yujin:
Lol. So it was the Portuguese that brought the binis to Lagos? What century was that and where was the so called Oyo empire when the Binis ruled over the aworis?

Dont mind him he is fooling himself only if he reads, or visited our previous thread were a benin guy Etinosa1234 disgraced TAO11 to stupor on lagos history he will not mention that Portuguese brought benins to lagos by thier ship, that boy is just a "Yoruba must defendi", a must defender for the yoruba but TAO11 has been the best i have seen so far, she can tell him d disgrace she had recieved on her various petty lies in an act to defend her coward tribe called yoruba
She had read all benin history just to spite us and even to get points to argue oba of benin came from ife, but she found none, her desperation is not of this world she simply hate the benins soley because benins everytime laid claim to lagos her hometown, from there she developed hatred to spite we edos, but it has consumed her so much that she had read all our history back to back and found nothing

OmoOlofin:
Quoting from the foremost authority on precolonial Benin history, Professor D.M. Bondarenko. He writes and I quote here:

"In terms of this, it is remarkable that Oba, Benin Second dynasty rulers' title, is also the generic notion for designating supreme rulers' titles all over Yorubaland (for example, "Ooni is Oba of Ife" or "the Oba of Oyo is Alaafin" ).

In the meantime, none of the Edo-speaking peoples' rulers is called so except that of Bini*. ... Only the Benin rulers could correspond to the Yoruba "standard" in the Edo-speaking world, where other rulers governed societies whose complexity did not exceed the chiefdom level.

However, it looks unreasonable to reject the notion that the very title of Oba could appear in Benin due only to Yoruba origin of its holders.

At the same time, it is known that the Yoruba did not influence the political systems of other Edo-speaking peoples, that is, peoples whose rulers are not called Oba.

... Historically, ethnographic sources and European writings of the early and mid-sixteenth century (based on relations from Benin of the late fifteenth century) and of the early seventeenth century, also testify to the Second Benin Dynasty's links with Ife."

Reference: Dmitri M. Bondarenko, "Advent of the Second (Oba) Dynasty: Another Assessment of a Benin History Key Point", History in Africa, Vol. 30 (2003), p.71.
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In addition to the foregoing quotation, I would add that, the etymological origin of the Yoruba word "Oba" is from the Yoruba root-word "Ba" which clearly means: "[to] reign-supreme". And in that case, the word "Oba" becomes "the one who reigns-supreme". This is neat and straightforward.


An Edo bigot, on the other hand, would pretend that the word "Oba" is indigenously thiers. This argument, however, encounters an etymological breakdown as the only Edo root-word they may adduce have absolutely nothing to do with "kingship", "rulership", or "monarchy". The Edo root-word "Bà" means "red", "shine".

cc: Trinitykey, Yujin

Benin Attache so the coward tribe yoruba repulsed you too so much you just want to make the oba of benin yoruba to hide the shame we colonised you all

OmoOlofin:
According to Roupell's Officials in the year 1897:

The Benin Kingdom was said --- by Benin chiefs and priests whom Roupell interviewed --- to have been established by an Ife-Yoruba man.

Reference: Captain Ernest Roupell (1897), cited in H. Ling Roth (1903), p.7.

cc: Trinitykey, Yujin

Make a screenshot for us please my yoruba attache brother

Even in nigeria the dead dont have right, instead to appease him una dey force am, if govt do una dsame thing now una go dey shout.....


After una bury am for the house, una go wait for wiliwili part 2

tribalwarlord:
I just don't know

I love your boobs, babe we both dont like yoruba
They are dirty, smelly peeps your can tribal change to edo

Czartega:
You are wrong. That is a hasty generalization. Just like saying all Benin girls are prostitutes(even though it's like 95%) you still need to give credit to the few well behaved girls. Urhobogirls are pretty if I dey lie ask venita akpofure(BBN housemate) or kirachaana (Oghenekaro) an Instagram influencer

95% indeed bro you dont want to go that tribalistic road with me bro if you want to bash benin then make sure you say d truth i have made good comments here on urhobo people and i consider them a brother some edo people, bro i made those negative statements from what i have seen neither did praise benin ladies to be fine, i even vowed to marry if i see fine urhobo because i have seen two and i couldnt believe my eyes


But if you are ready for tribal bashing am ready too we can set this thread on fire i hope you won't run bro...... 95% prostitute abi guy u dey mad bomb dey your head craze man guy nor vex me

Osagyefo98:
How can such lead to failure for someone who wants the best for his people.

We are not fighting remember. We have always been good neighbors.

I am just trying to adopt convenient history.

Bro i want you to think deep because you don't see what i see am not here to support benin supiority on igbos or its influence i for sure gbadu your zeal but i want to contribute to it, bro
I have made more igbos friends fighting the yorubas than i have made made enimies with igbos i see the yorubas as the problem in Southern nigeria

But i want to tell why i dont support your idea
Contact me 0815502481four

Yujin:
See how Yoruba people lie up and down. I've challenged your people to bring proofs of the so called Oyo empire as written by European explorers but non of them showed face. All that's written about the non-existed empire was concocted by Yoruba scholars just to promote your people. Firstly, you never conquered nupe nor the Fons. At present I don't know about the Borgus but I'll research about them soon.
How can Yorubas claim that Oyo was an empire when a huge chunk of other Yoruba clans were under the Benin empire. Were the Ondos and Ekitis not under the political influence of Benin? Was Oyo ever politically known in Ondo or even Ijebu? Does the moat in Ijebuland not tell you that they once were affiliated with the Binis? Only the Binis in the whole of Nigeria were known for constructing moats for defensive purpose. That one is found in Ijebuland shows the Binis once had some activity over there. This makes it easier yo understand how the Binis got to Lagos. Yorubas never had kings with the title of Oba but after they heard about the title of the Benin King, they had to copy the title and are even trying to claim it at present.
If you don't want me to release more missiles on your empty head, desist from calling Igbos in your discussion on this thread. If you persist, I'll return with bigger guns.

Lol he will be thinking you are edo, if not for the last statement.... Lol but everything you said there is blunt truth

I will add to what you said on the oba issue

Yes is the truth the oba of benin didnt come from Yoruba from my research i carried out the benin had told the Europeans in 1480 that they originated fron the middle belt no wonder some middle belts are still very diabolic the truth had some weight unlike the connection that trace it origin to yoruba
In 1820 a white British commander in lagos visited the oba he was an ethnographer he visited the then disposed oba, oba ovaramen who told the white British man that the obaship was established by a whiteman probably a whitegod who had criped into the palace unnoticed and slept with ogiso daughters, who got pregnant and birthed the obaship dynasty, oba eweka 11 after his ascension in 1914 made some unfounded statements for diplomatic reasons linking the benin dynasty to ife, purposely making the statement in the open, but the statement remained diplomatic then with no historical connection, but trust the yoruba community, they began bringing the controversy into life then more controversies came in to tackle the other controversies brought by the yorubas by the benins , after oba eweka death is son oba akenzua brought his own version to tackle the yoruba rising ascertion claiming the throne, this time he rewrote his father diplomatic remarks on benin-ife connection and wrote it in a way to favour the ife origin from benin, because historian had infringed on his father's statement and the benin people didnt like it, after the death of akenzua, Ereduwa the son of the previous oba before rewrote his fathers story linking it to an acient benin story of ekaladeran to spice the benin narrative up to support the ife origin from benin, to what we have today
The truth is if you go through the European documents of benin origin it always traced it to the middle belt and there was never a time it was accorded to yoruba or even the dynastic origin, yorubas in benin history were regarded as slaves
And less human, there was never a benin-ife or benin-oyo father and son connection. as a matter of fact benin displaced oyo invading soldiers on ekiti during the ekiti kparakpo, until oba eweka11 made those statement it was never in existence European traded with benins for 500yrs and they never documented any benin subjugation or homage to another king, what we had in history the Europeans documented was benin influence on yorubas state

Again ogiso(sky kings) in benin history never existed it was told by the royalty to make the benin royalty Divine, the obaship was the benin title of kingship
oba ewuare the first benin warrior king had expanded the empire from benin in early 1400 to yoruba and igbo areas and placed his stool over the areas, the name benin was called and given by the Itsekiris to the edo people when the Portuguese inquired the information of thier overlord they describe the edo people as land of vexation to the Portuguese warning them not to step to benin or they will be killed

If you need all proves dont be afraid to stage me here openly


Even foreign historians of today disprove benin history to ife and find it fishy and even disprove his artwork to ife some even believe ife people didnt make the artworks

Osagyefo98:
Young man Bendel is a state.

Bini is part of expansive Yorubaland..It is right to state that Edos are yorubas...

If i have your time on nairaland you will hate everything you fight for

Osagyefo98:
They won't..

And yet they are already kneeling on it, bro there is a better cause you can fight for, for the igbos if you choose this part as a leader then i see you a failure already bro, the world most useless leader can tackle ethnic struggle with ease, you really dont think better for the ibos i wont advice anyone to vote for you, you would simply be a dictor and an anarchist what you dont like you eliminate untill you fuel series of unrest and tensions in your beloved country ,

You will fail like Mugabe and i would read it with my children and laugh with them when you failure is aired in the news.... Lol

You have already failed


Pm let me school you why you will fail like Mugabe

If you want me to school you better pm me, because despite your philosophy been irritating it
Will lead to an uprise an dictatorship

AreaFada2:
Lol.
Whatever they say, Benin princes have been Lagos monarchs since about 500 years. Alongside Lagos high chiefs from Benin like Obanikoro, Eletu Odibo, etc.

That was exactly Benin colonial goal. To be the rulers over new lands. Not to disperse regular Benin citizens across the empire anyhow.

Yea, omo you senior me for nairaland ooh bros i remember when i newly signed on nairaland i never saw that retarded fellow called TAO11 untill two years later, i had always seen your comments and appreciated your commitment and zeal

We go soon many

What happend to this

Benin are longtime migrants warriors in lagos and even gave it the name Eko the yorubas are the migrant not benin or awori, like the man from osun who had pressed the kneck of Lagosian

mustausman:
You need to pray hard against spirit of setback. Whatzup :07025605848

Religious fanatics, las las na tithes u won collect

Do they dance with the spirit like that of the urhobo if no then i would pasd

Mrlucky81:
Says who?
I'm a typical Bendel man

. Dont mind the yoruba who wants to to do attache by fire by force with benin if dey stand wit benin man can dey understand him wen he speaks

Efewestern:
What part of Urhobo? very unlikely for you to hear even 30%, maybe you understand the Urhobo language as well.

I understand only few Bini words, but when they speak, I'm lost, not matter how attentively I listen.

I think isoko, they sounded edo, we could understand him

Mystiquefia:
Lol.. okpe still get some kind words wey align reach now sef like
Osunobugwe Okpe= Osonobwawe Edo

Whenever Any orodje of okpe passes on, the tradition has it that they must inform the Oba of benin. Infact na Oba Of Benin dey coronate any new Orodje Of Okpe... And there are some strategic decisions the orodje of okpe may want to take that he'd need to consult the oba of benin. like there was a time when the former orodje wife flirted around and when she was wearing her royal bead she collapsed. it was the Oba of benin that told the orodje of okpe to divorce her when he insisted on keeping her.

I'm pretty sure the former oba of benin would have a first hand knowledge about okpes

In benin it is called osanogoduwa the god almighty

The word oghene was found in European documents from benin people in 1590, it was used to mean king in benin, farback then but today the word is almost unknown to the benin only present in urhobo and auchi people of edo north

Efewestern:
You are right, AreaFada2 once told me that in those days, a Bini man could easily understand the Urhobo, but not anymore.

I myself can pick one or two when a Bini man speaks.

When we went to bury my urhobo aunt who her mum happened to come from benin from my paternal family, when the urhobo elders were speaking i could understand everything they said with no stress not just me but our benin family families that accompanied her there, some Urohobo words we didnt understand were words in benin we would call vocabulary in the now benin language, without interpretation from them we understood what they said..... And we laff at how they sounded speaking a form of benin

SmartPolician:
I once dated an Urhobo girl

That babe was so loving, hard-working, caring and beautiful

But I got worried when I learned that the Urhobos don't bury the corpse of their wives in their husbands' hometowns

Sincerely, I didn't like that. It was as though I was just borrowing their daughter to bear kids for me.

Anyways, we broke up when I moved to Lagos and she refused to join me because she is a single mom.

We are still friends and talk till date. I will never forget the way she makes me delicious Banga soup

Migwo!

Same with esan obasanjo hail for esan own, my Urohobo aunty was taking home to Buhari someone who had a benin name, throughout her life i dont think she spent up to an hour in delta state she grew up in her mother place benin till death,
The culture is nice sha i think it is an ediod culture but Benin did away it is own