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Olu317:
To be honest, I can only agree with over 95% of your take on Igodomigodo false claim which you've proved beyond reasonable doubt that they were colonised by Yoruba ancestors. While some of them became assimilated through intermarriages, conscription through priests apprenticeship,as servants and votaries.Kudos

Bring proves, mugu nothing like benin-ife relationships in the past prove it coward

Podakejol:
Nice one there. Hopefully others like our slaves from Benin would learn

Ciwards slaves to the grand Master from the north your eldest brothers



As long we are still ruling the yorubas as kings in thier various land and kwara is still been ruled by the north i wilk keep calling you all cowards

TAO11:
H.L. Gallwey notes on pages 127-128 of his 1893 "Journeys in the Benin Country, West Africa" along the following paraphrased lines:

"It is virtually impossible that the word 'brave' should appear in the same sentence with the name 'Edo'." 

Reference: H.L. Gallwey, "Journeys in the Benin Country, West Africa", The Geographical Journal, Vol. 1, No. 2 (Feb., 1893), pp. 127-128.

Cowards......... You dedicated yourself reading our history back and forth just to find a soft landing for your controversy in the long you fell inlove with our history and you have read all benin documents than an average benin person would have
But am glad behind the keyboard you know the benin-ife narrative was made up , it was just a misunderstood narrative supported by ethnicity and political motives and nothing more

Benin-ife was a lie, in my aim to read to defeat yorubas claims i found the truth


Cowards..... History nevers forget how female dahomey warriors ransacked your overrated empire to an halt and the fulani totally destroyed the remains, we bleeped your ancestors aworis from thier lands and drove them to outskirts and enacted our stool



Oba eweka11 made those statements for the benefits attached with the rising country and it should be regarded as that and not taken to far nothing existed between benin and ife, benin oyo war did happen not the benin-ife controversy taken to far......

Every benin person who wants to research on the relationship on benin-ife connection should do it with all available materials


You wilk see, benin-ife was just a controversy formed first by Samuel johson, and oba eweka 11 promoted it. For ethnic and political benefit from the yoruba people in early times little did he know benin could stand in thier own as they are doing today

[quote author=TAO11 post=91578237][/quote]Stop satisfy your tribal ego with controversial history that holds no wright......



The controversy has really helped your history grow than it has help edo people we are putting record straight this time around, and totally debunking the controversy we never once encountered ife till 1914 the word oba is as indigenous as the city edo and the word benin was given by itsekiri to describe benin people to the Portuguese people , even historical document made it known too edo acknowledged their origin to the north and east


My research is still on going wen am done i will create a thread for it


I hope you have found something new since your absence


You're not good at twisting history because you don't even know the truth you're intending to twist if i am to be twisting youruba history i will do it better than you

Olu317:
Awesome insight.

You nor get sense...... Coward

TAO11:
(1) It's not an oath per se, but rather the culminating rites that grants him final authority as King over his Edo subjects.

(2) It's not at the spot of the "Oranmiyan Obelisk" per se, but rather inside the "Oranmiyan House" where Oranmiyan himself is belived to reside eternally.

To be clear, tourists who visit the Oranmiyan grove, may go near the Obelisk. But there is a special place quite some distance from the Obelisk -- called Ile Oranmiyan -- where no tourist may visit.

That place is the "House of Oranmiyan" where a new "Omo N'oba N'Edo", et al., must visit for his culminating ascension rites.

Although I should add that a ram is often sacrificed (at the pathway near the Obelisk) whose blood the new "Omo N'oba" must walk on in procession to the "House of Oranmiyan" where the culmination ascension rites will be carried out.

(3) This is the traditional reason behind why all new Omo N'obas visit Ife. Every other reason you hear of is a cover-up.

A new Ife king have no business visiting Benin on ascension, but it is mandatory that a new Benin King visit Ife.

The internet has some fun memories of at least three of such visits to Ife of Akenzua2, Erediauwa1, and Ewuare2.

And I can assure you 100% that Ewuare2 -- the reigning Benin monarch -- did indeed make it to complete the above-described rites.

During this rite, the signature Ife's "Ada" is re-consecrated and re-presented to the new Omo N'oba as his sign of authority over his Edo subjects.

This is why, among the Edos, the Oba of Benin is NOT praised as the owner of the Ada. Rather, he is praised as the child of the owner of the Ada -- "Ovbi' Ada".

(4) Just for fun, some other interesting praise titles by which the Oba of Benin is praised in Edo land include:

(A) "Ovbi' Adimula" -- meaning: "The son of Adimula".
(Ask them what or who is Adimula in the Edo language).

(B) "Ikeji Orisa" -- meaning: "The Second to the deities".
(Ask them if these words actually exist in their language).

(C) "Abieyuwa N'Ovbi Odua N'Uhe" -- meaning: "The son of the wealthy Odua of Uhe".
(Ask them why the praise regard him as the son of a cOrRupTeD wOrD and not son of Ekaladerhan, lol.).

(D) "Ovbi' oven owie no gbaisi (erhan gba iri)" -- meaning: "The son of the morning sun that covers everywhere".
(Ask them where this morning sun lights up from according to Edo tradition).

Bro stop living in dreams you guys are coward we had nothing to do with ife in the past it was a controversial started by Samuel johson and promoted by yorubas bigot like you to get back at us to makeup the shame of we ruling you in the past, we bleeped your ancestors despite being naked as you cowards claim



If you are going to mention me bring your sense aling remember the criteria dont go and be citing
Oba eweka controversial claims made after 1914 that dont owe weight


Oba was always indigenous to benin



You all are cowards

Yujin:
@Gregyboy, the osagyefo you've been quoting is not Igbo but fulani. He always pretend to be Igbo just so he can cause confusion. Do not take anything he writes about Igbos seriously.

Now unto the topic of the thread properly, the observation of the OP is somewhat correct. The Edo people have the semblance of both the Igbos and the Yorubas and it can be considered because of the history of the ancient Empire they ruled. While Igbos settled greatly in the eastern flank of the core Edo areas the Yorubas are found on the Western flank. When you see the Esans and the eastern part of the Binis, you see great resemblance with the Igbos.Settlements in present Edo state like Ekpon, Inyelen and a few others show that Igbos truly had flourishing communities closer to the heart of the capital. I believe a good number of the Igbos who today talk about being from Benin actually moved from these areas back into deep parts of Igboland. Most people from Nigeria don't understand how empires operate. I have much respect for the political maturity of the Binis who ruled that empire. They incorporated lots of other tribes into their political control without suppressing their individual identities. Every tribe could contribute to the advancement of the empire and that was why she really grew. Someting drastic happened to Benin that led to a massive emigration of Igbos from the areas they occupied closer to the Edoid people and since then the empire started to decline. The Ezechima story is very credible. The Igbos of his clan moved from the Benin politically control area and moved into the present Anioma area while some crossed the Niger into present Anambra area. Notice that more Igbo clans and towns in Anioma are not descendants of the Ezechima story. This shows that they were originally settled there and a good number of them never had kings until the late 19th century. These clans were not politically under the Benin empire but were heavily infleunced by it nontheless. Onitsha is exactly a perfect example. After emigrating out of Benin politically controlled area, passed through the rest of the Anioma territory and settled on the other side of the Niger. They tried to create a system similar to what they learnt from Benin but never had any political connection with Benin again. Other Edoid people fleeing Benin after the empires decline moved out both towards the west and east of the empire. The Edoid(mostly Binis and Esans) migrants settled in mostly Ika and Aniocha parts of Anioma. The Ukwuanis had very little influence from the Binis because they're farther to the centre of the empire than the other parts. Let me stop here.

If that is truly is an hausa he is going to regret it, i hate anything north.... I pray he his not

Modified
And he is not is an igbo man who supports Buhari he still not free anyone who supports Buhari is from the norh to me

baby124:
Edo s don’t own anything in Lagos.

Yorubas dont own anything in lagos
and you guys are migrant from east africa your senior brothers the hausa knows this.........

Lagos is owned by edo and aworis

bigpriik:
lies

Loo, yorubas migrated from east africa dem and thier masters from the north.....


The real owners of lagos are edos and aworis who are indigenous to nigeris the others migrated from East Africa .....


Yorubas migrated to to the present nigeria today from east africa since the 15 century thier first settlement was ife were they found those artwork and tried to copy the faces in those artworks but they couldn't properly they could only copy the scarification on the artworks but couldn't copy the crowns untill after the creation of nigeria, thats why they never valued d artworks unlike the benins valued thiers, the only way they could manage in valuing the artworks and protect it was to bury them and worshiped it like thier gods, as s matter of fact at thier first arrival in the then nigeria the then oba of benin sort to colonized them

You wonder why the ooni in the past never wore the crown worn by those ife artwork untik recently or even point out the people who made them, because they meant the artworks there the yorubas were the ones who are the foreigners not the artworks

The original people of those yorubas were the benin ancestors who move down south for a better environment

hollah123:
We all know it's d Igbos, despite d fact that the man hasn't declared his political ambition as regards 2023 election they are already running around

It must be the igbos..... You nor get sense guy

Osagyefo98:
Take it easy on these people
Dem go swear for you ooo

They are too weak for my liking and senseless they will cost us losing 2023 to north again thats is my fear because dem nor get sense even aboki get sense pass them despite they are more educated.......

I hate dem political and not culture wise

Am the truth dey hate if we loose 2023 election to the north i will not hate yorubas i will hate Southern nigeria as a whole and i will start cursing all southern nigeria including my tribe and all other southern nigeria

chiefolododo:
Igbos are the real owners of Edo? Don't disgrace yourself

Coming from chief-olodo..... Tell me why would i take your moniker speaks otherwise

rhektor:
Lol

Gregy the f00l a weakling is also cunning can you see how f00lish you are?

If one afonja weakling is pained i wont be bothered come in your numbers and come bold not as a coward but as an equal man.....

For me the yorubas are cowards and mouth makers period

AristocraticMe:
The same attitude of the Yoruba with Title and Oba entitlement, is the reason Nigeria is what it is today.

When people hear Colonialism, you must think the British just walked into Nigeria and started taking control? No.....

A Yoruba king called Oba Akintoye invited the British to help him dispose the former kings son, King Kosoko in return he will abolish slave trade and give the British access to land, cheap labour and so on...... he signed a treaty he did not fully understand...... thats was how the British came to Lagos, they did the job for him but he lost total control of Lagos to the British and he committed suicide 4 years later........ from Lagos the British started bulldozing their way into other parts..... (There was nothing like Nigeria then... though)... The story is deep.......

Three Things that destroyed Nigeria.
1. Oba Akintoye - The Yorubas
2. The Amalagation of Nigeria
3. The First Military Coup Plotters (The Igbos).......

Hmm, explained it short and better...... Kudos

I just finsh reading it, and from what i can deduce

the two kings are fighting for one pussy, wonder shall never end #fearwomen

I am more pleased to the fact that the oniru is wearing an acient traditional face gear as if d gods saw d future.... And he didnt choke himself by adding western made unlike d agbaya over here

O. P

Better stay in the village or move to china, we dont need you in the city better remain in the village, if all this animal you have ingest has not yet kill you then you musy be the virus.....

Your senior brothers are in china,

gambia:
Late Oniru’s Children And Omogbolahan Lawal dirty fight is not my problem now. My problem is how did Deeper Life Pastor win a car from Heineken Drinking Competition?

That shouldn't be your consign either

UndauntedYOCA:
Afi trubalism na, lol. , bruv what's with the canabalism? Lol, you dey sleep as you dey type this?

Me self nor know, i just dey make rhymes,

Lets leave the rhymes as rhetorical statement

Let me try to put a meaning

Tribalism eats every sense of reasoning

Can we add a little bit trubalism to this post to spice it up

Modified
Tribalism is synonymous with canabalism desist from it.....

Clean the history of oyo, it almost never existed, an empire that some group of female warriors raped their male warriors to a despicable defeat not very long the fula men came and crushed the remains of the said existing empire,
that is not the painful part of it all, the most Shameful and painful part, is that they are still being ruled politically, religiously and culturally, by the fula men from the north
benin at a time crushed oyo forces to protect the benin vassal ekiti, in the ekiti parakpo war, but it failed to rule over the Weakling empire, only if the British didn't put the benin empire to an haut, we would have seen need to rule over the oyo empire

I know yorubas loves the way i tell the truth, behind thier history, i wouldn't say hate, dss will be having my neck kneel on for using the word hate
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IamWonderful:
Are running away from their erosion desecrated lands? they don't want to die of mud slide

Weaklings

Podakejol:
[s]Shut up with your ugly oloribu Oba of Benin wey be like aboki[/s]

Osagyfo98, would agree with me on this too


When nigeria breaks the remains of nigeria will be Hausa-yoruba-fulani coexistence, to the average fulani man yorubas are regarded as slaves lesser than the hausa man......

#weaklers
#cowards
#slaves

Podakejol:
At least yorubas are neater than your olosho women and armed robbers all over Edo State

And remember yorubas are also nearer than your stupid smelly ugly werey Oba of Benin

Hausa-yoruba-fulani, it fit, you all are Alimajiris and sworn brothers for life....


Lol, Let me not start with your ooni you will hate me bro

mystery22:
Google knows better

I hate when you're right

igwegeorgiano:
Being in a relationship with a destination on one's mind is a beautiful thing considering the joy of having the right partner in your world to make things happen. Am beginning to have a rethink about my present relationship with the most ungrateful of all ingrates of a lady on the planet earth.

Am presently in a relationship with a lady from the eastern part of Nigeria while I am from the south-south. We met over five months ago and within this short period I have spent well over 7million naira on this lady setting up a boutique biz for her getting her a befitting accommodation tastefully furnished and many more goodies to ensure she is comfortable including a car.

I don't want to bore us with other issues that cropped up which actually prompted me to share my experiences with this ingrate of a woman. I work so smart for my money as a certified mariner and I made my money from every available legit means am very comfortable to a very large extent but true love and affection is missing.

I went into a relationship with the sole aim of settling down with my woman whom I have done so much for. Just last night she called me and requested I assist her with with 500k to take care of some personal issues I agreed to give her the money but unfortunately I was able to raise 250k which I sent to her. Just few minutes ago she called to tell me that am a very stingy man. She told me I can't take care of her needs, yet I want to marry her. My people, am confused right now because I can't imagined myself going into marriage with this lady.

I have decided to relaxed any form of assistance to her henceforth so I can take my time to assess the situation of things in my relationship with her.

Bro you spoilt her, with lavishly, come back to the relationship and be a man, it's looking like the money is the man in the relationship.....

Go and be a man in your relationship stop using money to keep your relationship......
If you give a child meat always the day you refuse to give thaf child meat she will call you evil......

Anyway help your bro with work or any hustle

Pharaoh4rin:
As for me, if there's a way to denounce the hausa-fulani of the credit, I'll be happy. One Fulani lecturer once told me in skool that we're a conquered region, that they're d original Nigerians. He claimed that d name "yoruba" was given to d SW by them and the yoruba knows that. I was hurt but had to maintain my cool, though he expected something worse. The point is, the "Yoruba" should be looked into. It may be late tho. I'm not a student of history but it's crazy how these uncircumcised bigots keeps coming up with sh.i.t as this!

Yoruba are thesame thing with hausa-fulani so stop denying your brothers. over here in my states. We call yorubas aboki, if we see yorubas we can't easily differentiate them from an hausa person, unless when they speak thier language, they are so dirty, with cat marks like wiskers on thier faces ,thier brown teeth,and thier color is dirty black......


When you spot an igbo man from anywhere you can easily differentiates him from an hausa man, unlike yorubas

lawani:
The Phoenicians are the ancestors of Arabs. They referred to Europe as I Europa meaning westerners. When Arabs became Muslims and Europe prospered without accepting Islam, the name Europa came to mean those who prospered without submitting to Allah. The Songhai were Muslims and they corrupted Europa to Yoruba giving the name to the oyo empire because oyo prospered without submitting to Allah. The name is proto Arabic being originally of Phoenician origin.

You love talking in myth...... What is europa... With this simple history

I read an hausa ancient book, sometime ago on the description of the name yorubas, it still fits today narrative of yorubas, in the book they describe, yorubas as weaklings, deceptive and cunny fellows, it. all started after Afonja invited the Fulanis to strengthen is army against his yoruba superiors in a cunny manner, he was later overthrown by the same fulani he sought his help from with assistance from his yoruba subjects, before he died he cursed his yoruba subjects for supporting his overthrowment, his curse was Yoruba will always be ruled over by the Fulanis till they will be completely destroyed

Podakejol:
Shut up oloriburuku idiotic son of olosho mother. Your useless mother started prostitution at the age of 8. All your sisters, aunties started prostitution at 10 from Lagos to Ibadan to Italy to Spain. Your men are armed robbers terrorising other States

They can’t operate well in Edo because there’s no money in your wretched small landlocked Edo State

Ask your forefathers how warriors from Ibadan invaded your stupid Edo region then for slaves

A very backward state with no other tangible job other than prostitution, armed robbery and kidnapping

Always remember how boss awolowo cheated you fools and slaves in western region where he used proceeds from midwestern region to build western region and remember how Ibadan used to raid your useless Benin kingdom with your useless Oba of Benin then

Awon alayebaje omo. Awon omo olofo arisunkun.

A state where all it’s young indigenes can’t even stay. The women are all Over Nigeria and Italy trading their stinking useless smelly pussy they inherited from their useless prostitute mothers

The men are only known for armed robbers. No good thing can ever come out of your stupid Edo State with your oloribu Oba of Benin

Pained

After European union, banned flight from worst hit pandemic country, ncdc is taking a new turn, to reduce the live score rate...

Nigeria my country.... Bubu don dey hungry to travel


Everybody calm down next week all case of coronavirus will be cleared in nigeria

Osagyefo98:
The meaning are entirely different.

Before I wrote that I know of all these but the meaning to these ones are different unlike the yorubas that has same meaning with Edos.

Yorubas has no same meaning tell me one

I want one to play the game you're playing i pray you dont loose igboman

Osagyefo98:
There is no correlation or any historical ties between Igbos and binis, anything been paraded online are just invented history that has no back up.


Meanwhile looking at Edos and yorubas we can see that in names Obafemi, Olusegun, Rotimi, Abidemi, oba, Tope etc...shared names, titles and anything to name it.


Such can't be said of igbos. History is not hearsay but rooted that even after years evidences of it can be seen and not just mere look at this, look at that...


The only authentic history remains Edo-yorubas history and with over hundreds of evidence even written by binis themselves.

Truth remains the truth.

Lol

We have names like amadi, okoro, okuta, osakwe, ise
From both igbo and edo