₦airaland Forum

Etinosa1234:
ohk boss...u dey Newton Abi Edo Street

Armstrong34:
.I just hope they roast his balls and give it to the vultures to feast on



These are one of the few worms eating up the vegetables... Denting our image in the presence of the international communities

Etinosa1234:
Guy u be uniben student

I Dey stay ekosodin def

My house rent jus dey waste

Goldenkrezi:
FG should just open uni's jare... since dis covid no wan leave

House yaff tire me ooo

RedboneSmith:
This is interesting. You have a problem with people returning a 'Hello' from a white visitor on Nairaland. You think it's 'white worshipping' to return a hello. But you use the works of white scholars to learn your own history. You quote the works of white writers as authorities in your own history. You place their work above the work of your own local authorities like Egharevba. What kind of 'white worshipping' is worse than that?

When I told you your outburst that day stems from a deep complex and a feeling of smallness you're struggling with you thought I was playing.

ORIAYO70:
Then u r a ninny

TAO11:
Gregyboy won't let you rest in peace after you've suffered for days at my hands before you managed to finally escape wounded. LMAO!

Anyways, follow this this thread carefully and you will notice that I never for once requested for ocean of your tears and sorrows which you're flooding with.

You and gayboy sound like people with literally just one brain-cell. But I don't need your tears though! Hahaha.

All I have been asking for is evidence. Got it?? Good boy. Lol.

TAO11:
You've been begging this Etinosa boy to bail you out since 1 week ago now or so. LMAO!

All your guys just 'lock-up' saying: face your Tao alone, abeg. Hahaha! I hope you don't hate your people now.

Guess what, I actually chased Prolog/Ghostwon out of Nairaland. Hinm reason am say: Death better pass shame, abeg. ROTFL.

Anyways, I am still waiting for your replies to all the problems I have heaped for you from the 3rd page.

Why are you bent and struggling hard to run away from them with all the foregoing distractive tactics. LMAO.

Go back to page 3 and address every single problem I've heaped for you. You trapped yourself into this mess with your unceassing lies.

The same way your grand-daddies trapped themselves since the 1970s into the "Ekaladerhan is Oduduwa mess" which I am still making you children pay heavily for through your nose till date.

You particularly have endured so much suffering and torment at my hands, and I won't stop soon until you beg for mercy and promise to stop lying around. 

If you refuse to beg for mercy and repent, I will make sure to continue disgracing you until you become so popular that everyone hiss when they come across any of your two known monikers -- both "Edeyoung" and "gregyboy
You think lying around was a virtue, I will force you to reconsider that thought again.

Cheers to your tears!

TAO11:
You dare not tell me that your fuel has finished.



I am still waiting for your replies to all the problems I have heaped for you from the 3rd page up to this page.

Why are you bent and struggling hard to run away from them with all the foregoing distractive tactics. LMAO.

Go back to page 3 and address every single problem I've heaped for you. You trapped yourself into this mess with your unceassing lies.

The same way your grand-daddies trapped themselves since the 1970s into the "Ekaladerhan is Oduduwa mess" which I am still making you children pay heavily for through your nose till date.

You particularly have endured so much suffering and torment at my hands, and I won't stop soon until you beg for mercy and promise to stop lying around. 

If you refuse to beg for mercy and repent, I will make sure to continue disgracing you until you become so popular that everyone hiss when they come across any of your two known monikers -- both "Edeyoung" and "gregyboy".

You think lying around was a virtue, I will force you to reconsider that thought again.

Cheers to your tears!

TAO11:
Stop lumping all kings together like you're dumb.

Correctly dentify your weakling Kings (starting from Erediauwa) who connived in the 70s with his fellow intimidated minions to fabricate an account out of their inferiority complex.

May God bless the soul of his ancestors (from AkenzuaII to EwekaII, and so on till EwekaI) who dared not attempt such sacrilege against Ife -- thier orirun.

Your fInDiNgS?? ROTFLMAO!!

When did illiterates start making findings?? Hahaha. I didn't get the memo. Lol.

For the umpteenth time, Ekerladerhan's story is an ancient Benin story.

It was documented by Roth(1903) (or perhaps even earlier). It was documented by Egharevba also.

But it ended with him founding Ughoton, beating back the emissaries from Ado (Benin), and eventually being left alone.

The additional recent attempt (borne out of inferiority complex in the 1970s) by intimidated Edos to say he is Oduduwa is what scholars regard as an interesting nonsense.

Shut your gutter up! The story specifically says "a WHITE MAN who came from the great water"

It specifically paints the imagery of a Portuguese who f*cked your King's daughter and wife, and then became the progenitor of today's Kings.

Although scholars disregard this story as nonsensical, but it is plain stupid of you to lie (as usual and as expected) that it's nOt wHiTe mAn.

In fact, "white man" is precisely what it says, before the white man then became King.

However, since the story is apparently nonsensical, and scholars unanimously agree that it is, then you are stuck with Roupell(1897) who documented in Benin that Eweka is your first Oba, and that he is a Yoruba man from Ife.

Die in your rage!!

Refer to my reply above. Not to worry, I'd copy it for you. Here you go:

"For the umpteenth time, Ekerladerhan's story is an ancient Benin story.

It was documented by Roth(1903) (or perhaps even earlier). It was documented by Egharevba also.

But it ended with him founding Ughoton, beating back the emissaries from Ado (Benin), and eventually being left alone.

The additional recent attempt (borne out of inferiority complex in the 1970s) by intimidated Edos to say he is Oduduwa is what scholars regard as an interesting nonsense. "

TAO11:
You've been begging this Etinosa boy to bail you out since 1 week ago now or so. LMAO!

All your guys just 'lock-up' saying: face your Tao alone, abeg. Hahaha! I hope you don't hate your people now.

Guess what, I actually chased Prolog/Ghostwon out of Nairaland. Hinm reason am say: Death better pass shame, abeg. ROTFL.

Anyways, I am still waiting for your replies to all the problems I have heaped for you from the 3rd page.

Why are you bent and struggling hard to run away from them with all the foregoing distractive tactics. LMAO.

Go back to page 3 and address every single problem I've heaped for you. You trapped yourself into this mess with your unceassing lies.

The same way your grand-daddies trapped themselves since the 1970s into the "Ekaladerhan is Oduduwa mess" which I am still making you children pay heavily for through your nose till date.

You particularly have endured so much suffering and torment at my hands, and I won't stop soon until you beg for mercy and promise to stop lying around. 

If you refuse to beg for mercy and repent, I will make sure to continue disgracing you until you become so popular that everyone hiss when they come across any of your two known monikers -- both "Edeyoung" and "gregyboy".

You think lying around was a virtue, I will force you to reconsider that thought again.

Cheers to your tears!

TAO11:
You're a hardcore ret@rd who keeps ruining himself every opportunity he gets.

If Etinosa whom I battered almost to death (and who is still on the run till date is your best bet in this time of your suffering and anguish) then I am so glad to tell you that Benin Kingdom is sinking already right before your eyes.

Wait, did you just call my ancestors weaklings. How do describe the same people who conquered your ancestors as weaklings?

Oranmiyan conquered you ancestors, a Portuguese raped f*cked your King's wife, Awolowo marginalized your fore-parents, and Tao is sinking Benin Kingdom.

No wonder Captain H.L. Gallwey(1893) observed your fore-parents and noted that they can't be described as brave by any stretch of the imagination.

As soon as I quote (or cite sAmUeL jOhNsOn in anyway), then be prepared to see me give you the relevant page reference. But until I cite him.

However, YOU've been yapping sAmUeL jOhNsOn (as if you've ever read ono complete page of the book -- you that took 2 days to complete reading one Nairaland comment) without mentioning one page reference to any of your false attribution to thus author. You still haven't done so till now even after being called out.



I can't remember asking you to flood the comment section with your tears and sorrows.

What I asked for is different. You seem to be a first-class angry weakling as Oranmiyan, Captain Gallwey, Awolowo, and I have confirmed.

Like every sane human being, the author described this 1823 story (whereby a Portuguese man who raped your Kings wife and daughter is the ancestor and progenitor of today's Obas) as one to be discounted.

In that case, the account recorded by Roupell by 1897 (that Eweka is the first King, and the he is a Yoruba man from Ife) comes next in line.

Remember this is Roupell we're talking about.

I am also glad to see your 2nd attachment agree that extant Benin sources admits that Eweka is the first Oba, and that he is the son of Oranmiyan.

You clearly can't tell what to attach and what not to.

TAO11:
Nope! Everything there was a devastating rebuttal to every single garbage you typed.

Like I said, everything up there was a necessary and relevant devastating rebuttal to each and every nonsense you vomitted.

If you seek this as an escape route, you're still trapped because I have knocked your teeth off on this under your "gregyboy" moniker and under your "Edeyoung" moniker. LMAO!

I'm not sure where you got this nonsense from.

Moreover, I appreciate your thick skull but I will keep drilling it further down until your brain can comprehend the statement that Oduduwa was not the only human living in Ife.

Hence he could not have stopped others from procreating, nor could he have married himself to procreate.

You obviously have no clue what you're talking about at this point.

You seem more confused than EwuareII who couldn't count numbers correctly and then had to jump from 38 to 40.

Whenever you're sure of what sAmUeL jOhNsOn wrote, then you should state it with the relevant page number(s).

The days of helping you out is nearly gone.

This is the 5 millionth time I've been asking you to always prove what you say.

You're not in Benin right now. Wake up from your deep sleep. This is Tao of the order of Awolowo and Oranmiyan! Hahaha.

You will be doing Benin Kingdom a great deal of favor by reserving your 'filler' for helping EwuareII with how to count numbers correctly.

Perhaps after your help, EwuareII will realize that right after 38, the next number is not 40.

Moreover, I will love to see your evidence though.

Like I side, whenever you're discussing with non-Edos, always make sure to at least take your dead-brain with you.

Here we ask for evidence, proof, and reason.

Moreover, your 60 million yapping only applies to the "Oduduwa" of your creation who lived alone in Ife without any contemporaries procreating alongside himself, and without any potential inlaw to marry from and procreate with.

Says the same dingbat who fled for dear life till date (under his two monikers) when it was proven from archaeological evidence (dating to the early 1300s) that his beloved Benin Kngdom was (and is still) subservient to Ile-Ife.

Firstly, it's not "Ishekurhe", it's "Esekhurhe".

Secondly, I am glad you now understand that "Esekhure" is not one man's name.

Thirdly, I knew the Esekhure of that final list is a later one because I have read a long time ago that scholars doing early ethnographic field work in Benin met and confirmed this with both Egharevba and this particular Esekhure. Hahaha!

Let me know if you don't know this and you want to know.

Note: You must come out plainly and humbly -- admitting your ignorance. LMAO.

Are you trying to say you won't accept any evidence that date before 1475?? Hahaha!

I suspect this because you've ran away for your dear life (under your two different monikers) when I flogged you to death on the Ife-Benin connection using an early-1300 archaeological evidence.

You went away, sad after so much suffering and torment at my hands, without saying "pim".

Wait, why do you always avoid writing Ife-Benin connection, but write Benin-Ife instead??

Is your inferiority that thick??

For your sad information, no academic article, or renowned historian order it the way you do though. Just making sure you're aware.

I think you should do yourself the favor of always reading what you intend and pretend to be responding to.

Go back and read my reply and re-write your response again.

But to help you: I stated clearly that the Yoruba tradition is clear that Eweka was the first Oba of Benin.

I mentioned that Roupell's list agrees perfectly with the Yoruba tradition on the first Oba of Benin.

I also added that Roupell's list is a source of embarrassment to the Benin traditions

This is because the Benin traditions still cannot agree till date on who was the first Oba of Benin --- Oranmiyan or his son, Eweka.

So, the problem didn't start with EwuareII's coronation confusion. Even two successive Esekhures can not agree to get it right.

Why should I find a claim I didn't make?? LMAO

Well, if you're so serious about trusting Roupell's accounts, then here are some interesting information from Roupell.

(1) Roupell documented that Eweka (the first Oba on his list) was an Ife-Yoruba man.

(2) He also said that the Binis had no clue how to cast bronzes until the Europeans first casted bronzes for them.

Cheers to your tears!

RedboneSmith:
Awww. He's now usng racist expletives on his own people before the white 'racist' has a chance to use them.

Is this how you feel, boy? Do you wake up in the morning feeling like an ugly unintelligent knuckle-walking monkey? Is that really what you're angry about?

That must be it; that's the only reason why you'll see a white person and even before he has said one racist word to you, you already feel so small that you have to go on the defensive and spew racism yourself.

TAO11:
I am still waiting for your replies to all the problems I have heaped for you which you're struggling hard to run away from with all the foregoing distractive tactics. LMAO.

I will make sure to disgrace you until every single person (including Edos) see you moniker and start hissing.

You thought lying around was a virtue. Nope. This is not Benin Kingdom

Cheers to your tears!

TAO11:
I am still waiting for your replies to all the problems I have heaped for you which you're struggling hard to run away from with all the foregoing distractive tactics. LMAO.

I will make sure to disgrace you until every single person (including Edos) see you moniker and start hissing.

You thought lying around was a virtue. Nope. This is not Benin Kingdom

Cheers to your tears!

TAO11:
I am not sure what more evidence you want little boy.

(1) Are you seriously saying that an early-1300 archaeological evidence depicting an Ooni of Ife in the palace of Benin Kingdom shouldn't be talked about??

Are you seriously begging me not to talk about it after you fled for dear life from it on two separate occasions, under two different monikers.

(2) Are you seriously begging me not to talk about Roupell's 1897 Bini account which states clearly that Eweka, your first Oba, is a Yoruba man from Ife??

(3) Are you seriously begging me to ignore the fact that your Oba EwekaII (who died some 30 years before Nigeria) insisted to H.L. Ward that his Lord & God lives in Ife??

I think at this point you may have to use a lifeline of phoning a friend. You seem to be stuck forever.

You're stuck because lies don't last.

TAO11:
Hey, gregyboy aka Edeyoung:

I am still waiting for your replies to all the problems I have heaped for you which you're struggling hard to run away from with all the foregoing distractive tactics. LMAO.

Cheers to your tears!

TAO11:
Nope! Everything there was a devastating rebuttal to every single garbage you typed.

Like I said, everything up there was a necessary and relevant devastating rebuttal to each and every nonsense you vomitted.

If you seek this as an escape route, you're still trapped because I have knocked your teeth off on this under your "gregyboy" moniker and under your "Edeyoung" moniker. LMAO!

I'm not sure where you got this nonsense from.

Moreover, I appreciate your thick skull but I will keep drilling it further down until your brain can comprehend the statement that Oduduwa was not the only human living in Ife.

Hence he could not have stopped others from procreating, nor could he have married himself to procreate.

You obviously have no clue what you're talking about at this point.

You seem to be more confused than EwuareII who couldn't count numbers correctly and then had to jump from 38 to 40.

Whenever you're sure of what sAmUeL jOhNsOn wrote, then you should state it with the relevant page number(s).

The days of helping you out is nearly gone.

This is the five millionth time I've been asking you to always prove what you say.

You're not in Benin right now. Wake up from your deep sleep. This is Tao of the order of Awolowo and Oranmiyan! Hahaha.

You will be doing Benin Kingdom a great deal of favor by reserving your filer' for helping EwuareII with how to count numbers properly.

Perhaps after your help, EwuareII will realize that right after 38, the next number is not 40.

Moreover, I will love to see your evidence though.

Like I side, whenever you're discussing with non-Edos, always make sure to at least take your dead-brain with you.

Here we ask for evidence, proof, and reason.

Moreover your 60 million yapping only applies to the "Oduduwa" of your creation who lives alone without any contemporaries procreating alongside himself, and without any potential inlaw to marry from and procreate with.

Says the same dingbat who fled for dear life till date (under his two monikers) when it was proven from archaeological evidence (dating to the early 1300s) that his beloved Benin Kngdom was (and is still) subservient to Ile-Ife.

Firstly, it's not "Ishekurhe", it's Esekhurhe.

Secondly, I am glad you now understand that "Esekhure" is to one man's name.

Thirdly, I knew the Esekhure of that final list is a later one because I have read long time ago that scholars doing early ethnographic field work in Benin met and confirmed this with both Egharevba and this particular Esekhure. Hahaha!

Let me know if you don't know this and you want to know.

Note: You must come out plainly and humbly -- admitting your ignorance. LMAO.

Are you trying to say you won't accept any evidence that date before 1475??

I suspect this because you've ran away for your dear life (under your two different monikers) when I flogged you to death on the Ife-Benin connection.

You went away, sad after so much suffering at my hands, without saying "pim".

Wait, why do you always avoid writing Ife-Benin connection, but write Benin-Ife instead??

Is your inferiority that thick??

Fot your sad information, no academic article, or renowned historian order it the way you do though. Just making sure you know that.

I think you should do yourself the favor of always reading what you intend and pretend to be responding to.

Go back and read my reply and re-write your response again.

But to help you: I stated clearly that the Yoruba tradition is clear that Eweka was the first Oba of Benin.

I mentioned that Roupell's list agrees perfectly with the Yoruba tradition of the first Oba of Benin.

I also added that Roupell's list is a source of embarrassment to the Benin traditions

This is because the Benin traditions still cannot agree till date on who was the first Oba of Benin -- Oranmiyan or his son, Eweka.

The problem didn't start with EwuareII's confusion on what number comes after 38. Even two successive Esekhures can not agree to get it right.

Why should I find a claim I didn't make?? LMAO

Well, if you're so serious about trusting Roupell's accounts, then here are some interesting information from Roupell.

(1) Roupell documented that Eweka (the first Oba on his list) was an Ife-Yoruba man.

(2) He also said that the Binis had no clue how to cast bronzes until the Europeans first casted bronzes for them.

Cheers to your tears!

Savagethe21st:
you're just a waste man. U can't even spell preferential. You are just seeking attention, i wouldn't indulge with u in stupidity

TAO11:
gregyboy is so dry and empty right now. I kind of feel some pity for you poor boy!

Anyways, how does your attachment of "pre-Contents" page and "Contents" page address any of the problems I have heaped for you??

In fact, you must explain how all your numerous attachments address any the problems already heaped for you.

All I have for you right now is nothing but pity.

You seem too sure that your fellow Edos are so dumb, for thinking they will accept your unrelated and irrelevant attachments as replies.

Benin Kingdom is sinking. You can't afford to be sleeping at this moment gregyboy.

Wake up and save Benin Kingdom from my destructive grip!

TAO11:
First of all, do you really beleive that your fellow Edo Nairalanders are so dumb that they will think you've addresed my comment just because you quoted it with some irrelevant and unrelated attachments??

Edos must be really dvmb from this evidence of what you think of your people.

Now to addressing your irrelavnces, while my actual comment itself still await you:

I had all those lists long before you could understand the difference between a "book" and a "journal article".

So, it is pointless sending me a pdf of what I already have in different early versions such as Roth(1903), Bradbury(1959), etc.

(1) According to Yoruba traditions till date, Oranmiyan never ruled as King in Benin.

He simply established the new polity and instructed your ancestors to instal his son, Eweka as king -- first Oba.

(2) For the Edos, on the other hand, your parents (and their rulers) are still struggling till date with the confusion of identifying who their first king was -- Oranmiyan, or his son Eweka.

This confusion also played out embarrassingly during the 2016 coronation of EwuareII -- whi was crowed 40th Oba instead of 39th.

I am sure the Ooni of Ife and other Yoruba monarchs must have had a very good laugh that day.

(3) In the light of this, I am not sure why you think Roupell's mention of Eweka as the first Oba is some point against Yoruba. Lol.

No! That agrees perfectly with Yoruba traditional accounts, while it embarrasses the Benin accounts which could not agree (from the beginning till date) on who was their first Benin King. LMAO!!

(4) However, you seem to be threading the path of dumbness as usual, by weirdly remarking that the absense of a name from Roupell's list means the same thing as the non-existence of the bearer of such name.

In that case, consider the following non-existent audio-Obas of Benin:

Ehenmihen, Edoni, Udagbedo, Egbeka, Orobiru, Uwaifokun, Ewuare, Akenzae, Akengboi, Akenkpaye, Ore-Oghene, Ozuere, and Ogbebo.

How did the Edos (and their rulers) manage to get themselves trapped into this mess of audio kings??

[You can't even spell Esekhurhe. Are you sure you're not an Igbo working hard to tarnish the image of the Benin Oba?? That's by the way]

(1) First of all, contrary to what I already see that you're thinking, please note that "Esekhurhe" is not someone's personal name. LMAO

(2) Esekhurhe is a priesthood title for those who are dedicated to sacrificing to past Benin Obas during the annual Ugigun rites. Their duties also included memorizing the dynastic list.

(3) In fact, Egharevba truly did make it clear that his list here (which has Oranmiyan as the first Benin King) was from an Esekhure.

(4) However, another Esekhure from another generation after Egharevba's gave the last list which has Eweka as the first Benin King.

(5) This buttresses my point that the Edos are deeply drunk with confusion as regards who their first King is. They can't tell even within the Esekhure priesthood of just one generation apart.

So, no one should blame the reigning EwuareII for being confused and jumping from 38 to 40. The confusion among the Edos didn't start today.

babtoundey:
This your post shows you've been crying all your life. I can't help your predicament. It's either you drop your bitterness for the chosen nation or you end up being a worthless and brainless nicocomp that you are

And should I bring bring you your own posts where you blame your past and present miseries and generational plagues on your ancestors? You are a worthless and an incurable liar.

Osinbajo too gives you tumor. it has always been so and forever it will be. Osinbajo is only a dwarf in height, the height of his success
and intelligence beat what your entire generations (dead and alive) can amount to.

Oranmiyan colonised you
Portuguese brainwashed you
Awolowo colonised you
Tao daily flogs sense into your dead cranium

Savagethe21st:
quit with this trolling. U sound bitter,the white man isn't the cause of your problems

babtoundey:
Lol..
The same weaklings that have been making you curse your entire generations, wishing they were not dubious, unreasonable and daft to have sold you and your heritage to... (You know those men. You can fill in the gap)

Oranmiyan brainwashed you
Portuguese enslaved you
Awo colonised you
[s]Tao is colonising you (makes you loathe your existence)[/s]

TAO11:
Make sure to do so at your best convinience.

Well, you may break it down to one word per day if tou wish.

But remeber that your fellow Edo-slaves will be disappointed to see that you simply made noise and then ran away.

Yes, all distinguished Yoruba personages and leaders (including Alaafin Shango) are deified and admitted into the Yoruba pantheon after their deaths.

Maybe you meant to say he was never a human being.

Well, if that's what you meant, then you know what to do -- evidence.

What an interesting u-turn from "he never existed" to "if he existed". Are you trying to impress me that you aren't an un-teachable illiterate??

Well, regarding your statement "only ... the Ife people ... worshipped [Oduduwa]", this is blatantly false because even the Benin court continues to worship Oduduwa as a honor to the "paternal ancestors" of Benin Kings.

If you're in doubt, then ask Benin traditions through the "Art Institute of Chicago". https://archive.artic.edu/benin/rituals/

Which YoRuBa hIsToRiCaL aCcOuNt??

Why are you pretending to be someone who can completely read even a 3-pager. I am not even yet talking about understanding what was read yet??

'Ordinary' the few words of Nairaland comment is a lifetime hustle for you. Lol.

Anyways, I will be waiting for your nollywoodYoRuBa hIsToRiCaL aCcOuNt.

I noticed you have shifted, over time, from a full blown lie (such as Yoruba never had the word "Oba" before 19XX) to an half truth (such as Yoruba had the word "Oba", but ...).

I am not sure whether or not to regard your shift here as an improvement (after much schooling from me).

Moreover, are you trying to pretend that the word "Oba" even exists in the Edo language. No it doesn't, and you have been exposed to this already even under your "Edeyoung" moniker.

The closest Edo word to the Yoruba word "Oba" is the word "N'oba".

And this Edo word has absolutely nothing to do with "kingship", "monarchy", "rulership", etc.

Regarding the word "conquered", you have once admitted that nothing of such ever happened anywhere. You truthfully admitted that it was only an imagination in the head of your Edo fore-parents.

But I cam still vividly 'recollect' how Benin Kingdom was raped at different times by different Yoruba sub-groups -- Aje's group from Ibadan, Ogedengbe's group from Ilesha just to mention a few.

Wait! Are we even going to pretend like EwuareI existed?? /s.

Didn't Captain Roupell's records already prove to you and davidnaaze that Ewuare (just like some others) is only an audio-Oba of Benin?? /s


Modified : i have read what you wrote, your brothers cried on your behalf to You must be really terrible at reading emotions. babtoundey was only being nice enough to give you a befitting funeral. Hahaha.

But you're such an unappreciative buffoon. Hahaha.

please learn to keep your write up short.. Reading shouldn't be any problem to you 'na'. Remeber you're a potential international referent. 'Don't fall your international followers' hands na'.

Anyways, you can reply to one word per day. That also is allowed.

I will respond to all what you have written in due time, am currently busy.... But i will drop this Yes you will respond after "1÷0" days of preparation.

Anyways, everyone knows that 'dead' people don't respond. Hahaha

------------------------------------------------------------------------------


Funny fellow he samuel johnson the yoruba origin to oduduwa who migrated from egypt and settled at ife What an interesting u-turn?!

You had said: Ife was the origin or root according to S. Johnson.

But then suddenly: Egypt was the origin according to S. Johnson.

What has suddenly changed?

Anyways, you're allowed to make up your mind before your next comment.

Moreover, do you still hold on to your ret@rded comment that S. Johnson was simply falsely uniting the Yorubas to Ife (or Egypt)??

And if you still do, then I still stand on seeing his page reference from where you read that he said he was only trying to falsely unite the Yorubas to Ife (or Egypt).

Or did you simply make this up again as usual? Lol.

Am not discussing oduduwa familues with you rather is descendants under a short period a thousand years it descendants had a population of 60million, You must be the dvmbest thing that has happened to the Edo-group.

Did you just say you're not discussing Oduduwa's families but only his descendants??

How again do descendants come about without families? Only in Edoland I guess. Lol.

In a way, I like the fact that you're not smart. Otherwise, you would have since realized your mess.

For the umpteenth time, Oduduwa was not the only human being living in Ife.

He had contemporaries whom he ruled over. He had ancestors and parents. Gosh!

get sense it will take millions of centuries to have that population oduduwa if he had existed lived millions of centuries ago First of all, the whole of humanity past is only some 200,000 years old even according to science. [I thought I should leave this here as a side note to educate you on your repeated yapping of millions of centuries for only Yorubas].

Now to your interesting Oduduwa who had no ancestors, no parents, no contemporaries, no potential in-laws to marry from, no wife, no children, but somehow with descendants:

If I go by this kind of "Oduduwa" (which lives rent-free only in your plastic Edo head), then I am inclined to conclude that such "Oduduwa" will not even have any (Yoruba) 'descndants' even if he lives for quadrillions of centuries. Hahaha!

When keep telling you oduduwa is a myth believe me No that's not how it works in the real-world of sanity.

In the real-world of sanity, we don't "believe" others just because they've 'opened their mouths to talk'.

No! Instead, we agree with peoples' assertions when they prove what they say. You get the difference between our world and yours? Lol.

However, I must admit that the only exception to this is the Benin Kingdom where when the Yoruba-Oba of Benin talks, you Edo slave-subjects must nod along screaming out your lungs saying: "Oba gha to kpere"!

No proof is required there.

Tracing them to one Ancestor was a work of fiction by Samuel Johnson I am still patiently waiting for the page number of Johnson's statement from where you read that he wrote that Yoruba traditions before him never claimed common origin.

Or did you just make this up again as usual? Lol.

and there was never a time ife or oduduwa overlord the yoruba communities This too must be an interesting read. (mocking laughter).

You should always remeber to carry your evidence alongside your claims. This is Tao you're talking to remember. I am not an Edo. (mocking laughter).

In samuel johnson book all yorubas were direct descendant from oduduwa including benin the third to the last and oromiyan who happend to be the last, he never mentioned oromiyan venturing into his eldest brother territory i. e. benin First of all, no where does S. Johnson mention in his book that "all Yorubas were direct descendants from Oduduwa". Arm yourself with the relevant page number(s) if you must insist.

Secondly, in his listing of descendant Kingdoms from Oduduwa's, S. Johnson did not mention Oranmiyan (Oranyan) as Oduduwa's son. Again, if you must insist otherwise, then do so with your page number.

Lastly, the account of S. Johnson whereby he treated the King of Benin as one of the brother-princes from Ife have no root in Yoruba traditional accounts.

However, a little bit of reading reveals the source of this tradition which S. Johnson incorporated into his "The History". This account is from the Binis themselves.

The Binis themselves told Captain Roupell that "the [Edos] sent to Ife, in the Yoruba country for a King. [And] Eweka was sent to them".

On the conrary to this early, forced (but confused) desperate attachment to the Yorubas -- by the Binis -- the repeatedly consistent account of the Yorubas is that Eweka is Oranmiyan's son (born on Edo soil) who became the first King of Benin.

I will be overstating the obvious to say that you're an unteachable illiterate

I know you want to satisfy your ego that oba of benin is yoruba lol..... In other to overide the shaming edos are giving to the yoruba people The only shame I see here is on your Edo people.

They kept insisting to the Europeans that their Oba's ancestor is from Ife.

The Binin palace also admitted to Gallwey that all the Edo people are honoured to be considered and treated as slaves by these Benin Kings whose ancestors hail from Ife.

Anyway even if we have to argue on myth
Oba eweka 11 made it known ekaladeran who escaped to ife was crown king and ruled ife as his kingdom First of all, Oba EwekaII did not make any such nonsensical statement about your dead-beat Ekaladerhan.

Rather, Oba EwekaII informed H.L. Ward-Price in the 1920s that his Lord & God -- "Oghene" (in the flesh) -- is a 'Yoruba' King who lives in Ife even in the 1920s.

However, I understand that this Ekaladerhan thing is the genesis of all Edo pains and misery on Nairaland.

You all have been in pain from the day 1 that I've demonstrated how the attempted equation of Ekaladerhan as Oduduwa (by intimidated Edos in the 70s) is regarded in academia as an interesting nonsense.

Since then, you all have been fighting tooth and nail to pull a "we are going down together" stunt. LMAO.

Nope! No one is joining you in you gutter. Enjoy the sewage alone.

After all, I didn't force your people to publish a fabricated account in the 70s out of inferiority complex.

So we should believe you instead of the king of ijebu because you are what a nairaland historian. No where did I ask you to "beleive" me. This is not a religious discource. Lol.
I am only educating you to know what you didn't know.

(1) There are several (almost innumerable) Ijebu Kingdoms, not one.

(2) IjebuOde is only one of all these several Ijebu Kingdoms.

(3) All the Ijebu Kingdoms assert their ancient traditional accounts which recognizes Ife as the origin of their respective kingdoms.

(4) The only exception to these traditional account of Ife origin is NOT even IjebuOde.

(5) IjebuOde's traditional account also asserts Ife as its origin.

(6) The only exception then is the currently reigning monarch of IjebuOde.

(7) In fact, before this monarch was born, the ancient account of IjebuOde's IFE roots have been published into writing by the indigenous D.O. Epega in the year 1919.

[s]You love talking..... It keeps you busy, even when you dont have a point you still want to talk, i know you already.[/s]

babtoundey:
Lol.
O ya, face front. Don't let me add salt to your injury.

RedboneSmith:
A white man makes a post and people reply non-aggressively, and that is equal to licking his ass?

You have a complex. You don't see it yet, but maybe someday you will. Or not.

TAO11:
What an interesting u-turn?!

You had said: Ife was the origin or root according to S. Johnson.

But then suddenly: Egypt was the origin according to S. Johnson.

What has suddenly changed?

Anyways, you're allowed to make up your mind before your next comment.

Moreover, do you still hold on to your ret@rded comment that S. Johnson was simply falsely uniting the Yorubas to Ife (or Egypt)??

And if you still do, then I still stand on seeing his page reference from where you read that he said he was only trying to falsely unite the Yorubas to Ife (or Egypt).

Or did you simply make this up again as usual? Lol.

You must be the dvmbest thing that has happened to the Edo-group.

Did you just say you're not discussing Oduduwa families but only his descendants??

How again do descendants come about without families? Only in Edoland I guess. Lol.

In a way, I like the fact that you're not smart. Otherwise, you would have since realized your mess.

For the umpteenth time, Oduduwa was not the only human being living in Ife.

He had contemporaries whom he ruled over. He had ancestors and parents. Gosh!

First of all, the whole of humanity past is only some 200,000 years old even according to science. [I thought I should leave this here as a side note to educate you on your repeated yapping of millions of centuries for only Yorubas].

Now to your interesting Oduduwa who had no ancestors, no parents, no contemporaries, no potential in-laws to marry from, no wife, no children, but somehow with descendants:

If I go by this kind of "Oduduwa" (which lives rent-free only in your plastic Edo head), then I am inclined to conclude that such "Oduduwa" will not even have any (Yoruba) 'descndants' even if he lives for quadrillions of centuries. Hahaha!

No that's not how it works in the real-world of sanity.

In the real-world of sanity, we don't "believe" others just because they've 'opened their mouths to talk'.

No! Instead, we agree with peoples' assertions when they prove what they say. You get the difference between our world and yours? Lol.

However, I must admit that the only exception to this is the Benin Kingdom where when the Yoruba-Oba of Benin talks, you Edo slave-subjects must nod along screaming out your lungs saying: "Oba gha to kpere"!

No proof is required there.

I am still patiently waiting for the page number of Johnson's statement from where you read that he wrote that Yoruba traditions before him never claimed common origin.

Or did you just make this up again as usual? Lol.

This too must be an interesting read. (mocking laughter).

You should always remeber to carry your evidence alongside your claims. This is Tao you're talking to remember. I am not an Edo. (mocking laughter).

First of all, no where does S. Johnson mention in his book that "all Yorubas were direct descendants from Oduduwa". Arm yourself with the relevant page number(s) if you must insist.

Secondly, in his listing of descendant Kingdoms from Oduduwa's, S. Johnson did not mention Oranmiyan (Oranyan) as Oduduwa's son. Again, if you must insist otherwise, then do so with your page number.

Lastly, the account of S. Johnson whereby he treated the King of Benin as one of the brother-princes from Ife have no root in Yoruba traditional accounts.

However, a little bit of reading reveals the source of this tradition which S. Johnson incorporated into his "The History". This account is from the Binis themselves.

The Binis themselves told Captain Roupell that "the [Edos] sent to Ife, in the Yoruba country for a King. [And] Eweka was sent to them".

On the conrary to this early, forced (but confused) desperate attachment to the Yorubas -- by the Binis -- the repeatedly consistent account of the Yorubas is that Eweka is Oranmiyan's son (born on Edo soil) who became the first King of Benin.

I will be overstating the obvious to say that you're an unteachable illiterate

The only shame I see here is on your Edo people.

They kept insisting to the Europeans that their Oba's ancestor is from Ife.

The Binin palace also admitted to Gallwey that all the Edo people are honoured to be considered and treated as slaves by these Benin Kings whose ancestors hail from Ife.

First of all, Oba EwekaII did not make any such nonsensical statement about your dead-beat Ekaladerhan.

Rather, Oba EwekaII informed H.L. Ward-Price in the 1920s that his Lord & God -- "Oghene" (in the flesh) -- is a 'Yoruba' King who lives in Ife even in the 1920s.

However, I understand that this Ekaladerhan thing is the genesis of all Edo pains and misery on Nairaland.

You all have been in pain from the day 1 that I've demonstrated how the attempted equation of Ekaladerhan as Oduduwa (by intimidated Edos in the 70s) is regarded in academia as an interesting nonsense.

Since then, you all have been fighting tooth and nail to pull a "we are going down together" stunt. LMAO.

Nope! No one is joining you in you gutter. Enjoy the sewage alone.

After all, I didn't force your people to publish a fabricated account in the 70s out of inferiority complex.

No where did I ask you to "beleive" me. This is not a religious discource. Lol.
I am only educating you to know what you didn't know.

(1) There are several (almost innumerable) Ijebu Kingdoms, not one.

(2) IjebuOde is only one of all these several Ijebu Kingdoms.

(3) All the Ijebu Kingdoms assert their ancient traditional accounts which recognizes Ife as the origin of their respective kingdoms.

(4) The only exception to these traditional account of Ife origin is NOT even IjebuOde.

(5) IjebuOde's traditional account also asserts Ife as its origin.

(6) The only exception then is the currently reigning monarch of IjebuOde.

(7) In fact, before this monarch was born, the ancient account of IjebuOde's IFE roots have been published into writing by the indigenous D.O. Epega in the year 1919.