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TAO12:
You must first demonstrate that the criterion you requested is not as shitty as you yourself before you ask others to meet it.

Your claim is that Benin and not Ife originally owned the royal emblems. You have to prove your own claim first.

A picture or plaque showing the emblems proves absolutely nothing about your claim of original invention.

I will be waiting on you.

While waiting on you to get out of the trap you've set for yourself, be reminded that the Benin account makes it clear that the royal emblems were introduced to "Benin" by Ogiso Ere.

However, we know from the works of the most prominent and prolific historian of Benin Kingdom alive -- D. M. Bondarenko -- that Ogiso Ere was an Ode-Yoruba sent from Ife to oversee the administration of "Benin".

cc: RuggedSniper, lawani, MetaPhysical, gomojam

TAO12:
This is no proof of invention.

Try harder or keep saving face.

TAO12:
I need an article from 1475 to 1914 which says that Ada and Akpe were invented by Benin. Mumu boy!

Binis be adducing their dumbness as supporting evidence for their pathetic positions.

bleeped up people.


... So, as I was saying before I was rudely interrupted by a scum...

TAO12:
There wasn't a single time when a Bini became king in Lagos. Not once. The first king of the present Lagos dynasty is Yoruba. The claim of the Benin account is unfounded. Refer above to see the latest spanking your Lagosian-wanna-be brother has received.

The relationship between the Lagos royalty and the Benin royalty is completely different from what you Edos think it is. It began purely as a political alliance and got consolidated through marriage. You all must stop dreaming.

Moreover, the royal insignia which Oba Akiolu is holding is an indigenous Yoruba emblem of office which were originally despatched from Ife. The Ada & Eben as the Binis call it was obtained from Ife through Ogiso Ere who is an Ife-Yoruba emissary sent to oversee Igodomigodo.

These ceremonial emblems are originally known throughout Yorubaland as Ada-Ogun & Akpe with the Ada-Ogun coming later to be associated with another later war personage in Yoruba history, i.e. Oranmiyan. Thus these emblems came to be know as Ida-Oranmiyan & Akpe.

Other Yoruba kingdoms have variant names for the "Ada"/"Ida" such as "Agada" or "Ele" as is popular among the Ijebus. Samples of the Ada Ogun ceremonial sword can be seen in Museums across the world.

Refer to the attachment below to behold the despatch of Ada & Akpe from Ife to Sir Kesington A. Adebutu of Ijebu-IperuRemo during his installation as the Odole Oodua.

cc: RuggedSniper, lawani, MetaPhysical, BabaRamota1980, gomojam

RuggedSniper:
^^Oba Kosoko a brutal and rich man from the slave trade, stopped paying annual tribute in the early 1800s to the Oba of Benin and he had developed a strong army to ward off any punitive attack from the Bini. A combined Abeokuta fighting force led by Kosoko's uncle (Oba Akinsemoyin, whose birth mother is from Abeokuta) and the British Naval ships removed him in 1850 to stop the slave trade. The ousted Oba Kosoko is Adekunle 'Gold' Kosoko and Prince Jide Kosoko's direct male ancestor.

lawani:
According to Yoruba theology, any where designated as Ife is the first point of human civilization. There are two Oduduwas, the earlier one like his contemporary Imoles all landed from space, the later one came with an entourage probably from the Middle East because he mentioned Nimrod as his ancestor to Ife people who corrupted it too Lamurudu.

TAO12:
[s]Eeerrm ...Mr Edeyoung, I fail to see the evidence for your 'junky' statements.

Do yourself the favour of substantiating your claim (e.g. with an attachment that supports it) -- and also reference such attachment accordingl[/s]

Cheers!

lawani:
A palace, the Iga Alagbaa was built for his progenitor in Lagos who was begged to stay in Lagos when he wanted to return to Ijesa. From ologuntere down to the present oba are all Ijesa. Benin did not conquer lagos by war, they accepted a Benin prince peacefully. The Ijesa man who was called Alaagba also did not conquer Lagos. He married a princess and became the progenitor, hitherto of Lagos kings. How can you say the Lagos dressed like the Benin monarch? The same way you said the owa obokun dresses like the Benin king. Those are not Benin regalia please.

lawani:
we no longer have Benin monarch in Lagos, the oba of Lagos is of Ijesa descent.

Etinosa1234:
Crying Awori gal... show us the one that says otherwise...

u dey fear

RuggedSniper:
^^^Well articulated @TAO12! You are a true omo Eko (Lagos indigene) NOT an ara Eko (Lagos resident)!

davidnazee:
Lilliputs talking trash again..
Edo people weren't wearing clothes till the 19th century and the same naked Edo poeple conquered and ruled your ancestors for over 500years up till the 19th century.. Was it the naked big balls of my ancestors that scared your weak ancestors??

babtoundey:
He will soon come to tell you Olokun is shining okun or red okun (after all red is sacred in Edo culture). He and gregboy think alike. awkward.

TAO12:
As expected, I knew you were set to clown.

Wait! Why does Edeyoung have to log out for you to log in??

You weren't even smart enough to use two devices. Lol ... Now, I look forward to a change.

You've been exposed in details at the following link:

https://www.nairaland.com/5846948/benin-yoruba-speaking-empire/12#90427617

Edeyoung:
Bro how do you have time do all this and still not make any sense am just baffled ok am gonna add gregyboy to my mention.... I know if i had included him at first you will still go ahead and find it fishy
Bro you see. Pained by the guy

Edeyoung:
Those skulls are that of the yoruba slaves in benin like i have always maintained...... Sacrificing the yorubas as slaves to our gods was ideal, We didnt use those skulls to make festish money.... Like you all are doing.....



What is the importance of the image you uploaded there. Bro? is it for me to see more reasons to bash your tribe, bro no one denied the fact benin did human sacrifice with the heads of the yoruba people but bringing it to my face, when you know it will turn to favour my stance in insulting you.... Simply shows your act of despiration


You need a check up bro, you complain i was gregyboy because i brought an article against me while you simoly doing thesame


Bro you need sleep

TAO12:
Hahaha!

Gregyboy being agitated and on the defensive for being exposed to be one and the same person as Edeyoung. lmao!

Moving on, your claim that the deity "Olokun" is indigenous to Benin is just as absurd as claiming that "Samudradeva" (the Indian deity) is indigenous to Benin.

Just as the words "Olokun" and "Samudradeva" have absolutely no meaning in your Edo language, they therefore can never possibly be indigenous.

The former (Olokun) is indigenous to Yoruba, and the latter (Samudradeva) is indigenous to India.

I challenge you to break down the word "Olokun" into its components parts and then give the Edo analysis of each component (if any).

cc: BabaRamota1980, MetaPhysical

Edeyoung:
Ooh am now gregyboy because i am saying the truth.........

I probably would just be avoiding you now just the way gregyboy has been doing

You accused ayoola account as fishy now you call me gregyboy....

I see the yorubas here have become insecure particularly you TAO11 you are going nut per minutes....

IkpuNnegiEwu44:
See who dey talk erosion. Benin na erosion enclave, go see agbor road by Ogbeson quarters, check Ekehuan road erosion near open university, abi na Ugbowo where flood dey swallow motor, uwelu nko?

Anyway rain fall for Benin, every house na swimming pool.

IkpuNnegiEwu44:
They are deceived by the City in Benin City. Not minding that city was put there in the olden days. Benin is retrogressing, the leagues of Ibadan, Enugu, Portharcourt, Owerri have left Benin behind. The Village is obviously cursed by their fetishism. No one progresses by involving in such level of jujuism

Slawormir:
Damnnnnn niggarrr
Isoright

Oshiomhole and his fuckkking loyalist are wasting their time.
Na Edo state we dey
Obaseki is gonna fuckkk oshiomhole up anyday anytime twice on election Day
Oshiomhole don't know what he has put his hand into
You don't fuckkk with the wake and see governor and go Scot free
Edo people and their ancestors got obaseki's back

MetaPhysical:
Come and tell us about clothes.

Tell us clothing styles, dyeing arts, weaving styles and cultures you Edo people traded clothes with.

MetaPhysical:
You are wicked!
I already told you.

You have completely humiliated and destroyed all the Edo witchery and mouth in front of the whole world.

Even Ibos that once had no clue to face them now have a full collection of materials to flog Edo with.

...and you did it singlehandedly.

Mmmtchheww, I bow for you!

Edos go and gather your witchery jujus and all your elders and birds and night broomstick flyers ....gather here and surrender your brromstick and otumokpor. Your witchery has been defeated!

MetaPhysical:
They have witchery!

MetaPhysical:
Yoruba has never claimed to have connection with Edo.

We told you we own you!

Ownership of your land is different from a fraternal link with you.

In other words, Bini belong to Yoruba and Bini is a suzerain over Edo.

Why are you asking for that quotations to be put here? Do you doubt what TAO said?

Do you doubt what RC Law said?


We own you, end of talk!

MetaPhysical:
Yoruba has never claimed to have connection with Edo.

We told you we own you!

Ownership of your land is different from a fraternal link with you.

In other words, Bini belong to Yoruba and Bini is a suzerain over Edo.

Why are you asking for that quotations to be put here? Do you doubt what TAO said?

Do you doubt what RC Law said?


We own you, end of talk!