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Culture › Re: An Oyo Successor State. by gregyboy(m): 12:41pm On May 19, 2020
Olu317:
The information above just got my bone cracking with more Laughter like someone who won a jackpot.These Oviedos are just too ignorant to realised that the more they contest Yoruba's ownership of Bini, the more ,they get bitter pill of the truth. grin grin grin .

It is so sad, that some e warrior Oviedos had to come this far to be exposed in the public of this magnitude. Edo isn't Yoruba land but Bini is owned, invested on by Yoruba ancestors. Perpetually a vassal kingdom of Yoruba nation because for economic gain and civilization purpose, the Ife ceramic elements in Ilare district during the 13th century was not, however, an isolated de- velopment. Ife ceramic characteristics also emerged in Owo and Benin during the same century, simultaneously with the advent of centralized political structures and ideologies.

The expansion of the Ife ceramic sphere from its homeland around the 11th century to Ilare, Owo, and Benin in the 13th century seems to parallel the political and cultural influence of Ile-Ife in the Yoruba-Edo region. On one hand, the Ife ceramic sphere can be viewed as the re- gional acculturation to the materials of the metropolitan polity with the longest history, and the most elaborate ma- terial forms, of sociopolitical complexity. On the other hand, the ceramic sphere served as the marker of a region- al system in which subgroups (social groups and commu- nities) had access to the material correlates of a coherent system of "ideological structures that established and orga- nized their place in the social world" (MacEachern 1994: 207).
We need evidence oromiyan set foot in benin
Culture › Re: Oba Of Benin, Queen Iyayota Welcome Baby Boy by gregyboy(m): 12:34pm On May 19, 2020
PureFace1:
Lol Ada Ogun that is part of Yoruba culture is what you claim is Benin lol

Do you even know the way Benin king use to dress with beads was how Yoruba kings used to dress in the past?



Read this thread on Nairaland


https://www.nairaland.com/3117938/family-late-oba-benin-tenants
Mad man
Culture › Re: Oba Of Benin, Queen Iyayota Welcome Baby Boy by gregyboy(m): 12:33pm On May 19, 2020
PureFace1:
Yoruba never has a strong empire but I guess dahomey kingdom was part of Hausa empire.

Benin was a Yoruba Colony
You have to prove it.....


When did oromiyan come to benin
Culture › Re: Oba Of Benin, Queen Iyayota Welcome Baby Boy by gregyboy(m): 12:32pm On May 19, 2020
PureFace1:
Benin was a Yoruba Colony go and read your history again
Go and read yours


There was ni connection between ife and benin in the past oba eweka 11 said it just to be under the political canopy with yorubas
Culture › Re: Oba Of Benin, Queen Iyayota Welcome Baby Boy by gregyboy(m): 11:57am On May 19, 2020
PureFace1:

No Yoruba is obsessed with Benin
and want Benin for anything, we are more than enough but it is just annoying when you guys peddle falsehood online.

You will never see a Benin king claiming Yoruba when Benin king is actually a Yoruba man lol, keep deceiving yourselves

Culture › Re: Oba Of Benin, Queen Iyayota Welcome Baby Boy by gregyboy(m): 11:51am On May 19, 2020
diplomat058:
The royal eulogy of Alaafin Sango of Old Oyo was 'Sanjo, Olukoso, OBA areku jaiye' which means 'Sango, Chief-in-Charge, a KING of affluence' I am poised to ask you, did Benin, at any point in time, conquer Oyo?

There is a royal title in IFE called OBALUFON of ILE IFE, its a royal stool, subservient to the Ooni of Ife. Did Benin ever conquer Ife?

Obafemi means the king love me, and the word has existed for hundreds of years. if OBA has not always meant KING in yorubaland, why do we have classical names like OBAFEMI?

Why is it that Benin never had an OBA until ORAMIYAN went there from IFE. That, alone, signifies that it was a borrowed culture from IFE which the Binis were privileged to adopt, courtesy of ORAMIYAN who came from Ife and left his child, EWEKA to be crowed the first OBA of Benin.

Benin (Bini) itself was a corrupted Yoruba word from the word, Ile Ibinu. The name was given by ORAMIYAN, in his angry reaction to the conspiracy of the kingmakers against him. He had a child there and departed for Oyo. The Bini Kingdom was formerly called Igodomigido, under the rule of the Ogisos. Portuguese corrupted BINI as BENIN and the new term sticks

There is a market in Ibadan called OJA-OBA, adjacent the Olubadan's Palace. OJA-OBA means THE KING'S MARKET. The market has existed since the 19th century, for close to 200 years.

Lol
We gave the title oba to yorubas when our oba led military conquest to yoruba areas since 1400
During the time of oba ewuare


Ww are researching if truly Oronmiyan really cane to beninas you said but no evidence not evem from the oyo son book history of yoruba writing by Samuel johson in 1897 samuel johson wrote that oromiyan never visited benin


I teied to also find writing record from European in benin on benin-ife relationships but there Was no mention...


Oba title is indigenous


Oba eweka of benin told the story if it's origin to ife for political reasons just the way your oba stole the title oba to raise the yoruba monarchial prestige to the world
Culture › Re: Oba Of Benin, Queen Iyayota Welcome Baby Boy by gregyboy(m): 11:07pm On May 18, 2020
Lastmankc:
This table you are shaking will break on your head oooo
Talk wirh sense......


Your family head..... Ozwor

Ugwogwa vba gbon





Mannerless human beign
Culture › Re: Oba Of Benin, Queen Iyayota Welcome Baby Boy by gregyboy(m): 11:05pm On May 18, 2020
PureFace1:
What is this one saying?

Oba means King in Yoruba Language but words like Ooni of Ife, Alaafin of Oyo, Owa of Obokun etc are all titles.
... Wetin you dey talk guy....

You dey talk nonsense


What does title represent



The benin oba title is

Omo n oba nedo ukwakpolopolo ewuare no gidigan (full title)


In short form he is called omo n oba or oba
Culture › Re: Oba Of Benin, Queen Iyayota Welcome Baby Boy by gregyboy(m): 10:50pm On May 18, 2020
diplomat058:
You are not Yoruba, stop lying. If you are, you wouldn't concur with that ignorant fellow that said that the word, 'Oba' entered the Yoruba royal lexicon in 1970. Lol

I guess Yoruba classical deity, Obatala also existed after 1970. Sango Olukoso Oba areku jaiye, Alaafin of Old Oyo and an immortalised deity also existed after 1970. What of Obalufon of Ife, Obateru of Ugbo, and Obadare, the Prophet? They all adopted the Benin word, Oba, after 1970?

You are a joke, honestly. By your logic, even Obafemi Awolowo used the Obafemi as a name after 1970, cos Obafemi means the king love me. If Oba was not traditionally known as kings in Yoruba land, how do we have names like Obafemi from the olden days

Lol, baba goan sleep. you don't know jack about history
What i said was it was adopted in the 1970 as general title to represent kingship in Yoruba in replacement of sir


Benin got this word oba to yorubas long time ago while conquering you lot
Culture › Re: Oba Of Benin, Queen Iyayota Welcome Baby Boy by gregyboy(m): 10:38pm On May 18, 2020
Sammy07:
You're illite.rate I swear.

At the beginning of the thread, I said its a Yoruba word, a Benin guy quoted me that's Yoruba borrowed it.

I ask for prove by giving you some questions

You're digressing from the subject of discussion.
Pls, don't quote me again.
Ok sir
Culture › Re: Oba Of Benin, Queen Iyayota Welcome Baby Boy by gregyboy(m): 10:34pm On May 18, 2020
Sammy07:
Thank you, you understand the subject of discussion.

Can you please tell me their meanings?
After the British left the yorubas monarchy quickly changed the name from ooni of ife, sir Adeyeye ogunwusmi to ooni of ife, oba Adeyeye ogunwusmi


Even the previous ooni carried an ada the love for benin culture

Culture › Re: Oba Of Benin, Queen Iyayota Welcome Baby Boy by gregyboy(m): 10:28pm On May 18, 2020
Sammy07:
Give me 10 Benin words that Has Oba in between and us the meaning.


I can give you 20 Yoruba words with Oba and their meanings.
The word Oba still retain her meaning in those words.


So, give me 10 Benin words that has Oba and tell me their meanings
Even goggle can give you that.......



Even if i give you it wont prove anything



Give me samuel johnson first publication history if yorubas were he addressed yoruba king as oba


I also need a written document from 1475 to 1914 showing benin and ife connection in European account because i believe oromiyan brought obaship to benin


I also need a statement from Samuel johson book saying oromiyan came to establish benin


Samuel johson is a Yoruba man, he had written the yoruba history at oyo in the year 1897 and published it 1921 so his works will be appreciated
Culture › Re: Oba Of Benin, Queen Iyayota Welcome Baby Boy by gregyboy(m): 10:22pm On May 18, 2020
Sammy07:
If Oba means Bright.
I have two questions.


1. What does Obaseki means


2. Give me 5 Edo words that's has Oba in between, and tell me their meanings
Foolish questions


I should ask you why did yorubas not use the word onni for a general word for kingship

Why did yorubas change from sir to oba


Show any connections between benin-ife from 1475 to 1914 on writing documents from European accounts



Words like deji, kabeyesi, ooni, olu couod serve in replacement of oba but why didnt they pick one of this names as generality for kingship



In samuel johnson first book published in 1921 why was the word oba not found in his writeup untill after subsequent editions of his books
Culture › Re: Oba Of Benin, Queen Iyayota Welcome Baby Boy by gregyboy(m): 10:10pm On May 18, 2020
Sammy07:
How come the word Bright didn't appear in your translationhuh

Since Oba means bright.
Every word got its etymology


The word oba is bright (shinny) that is for the etymology of the word oba


The meaning is king


And yorubas stole it after 1970 to rep thier king

Before 1970 the British addresses the yoruba monarchs as ooni of ife, sir Adeyemi ogun....


To give the royal title prestige they adopted the title oba in replacement of the British sir



You lot even fancy our ada too, but you yorubas couldn't adopt it because it was obvious not yorubas too

Culture › Re: Oba Of Benin, Queen Iyayota Welcome Baby Boy by gregyboy(m): 10:05pm On May 18, 2020
Youngjohnosas:
Obaseki means the Oba's favour is more valuable than success in trade.
Well interpreted......


Oba gha to kpere

Celebrities › Re: Sister Afia And Freda Rhymz Nearly Fought At TV3 by gregyboy(m): 9:13pm On May 18, 2020
temptnow:
What does these ugly looking things get to do with Nigeria.

I don't understand Nairaland again.


Is this Ghana land or Naira land
Cedis land
Family › Re: Are Best Friends Worth It? Mine Abandoned Me In The Streets Of A Foreign Country by gregyboy(m): 9:09pm On May 18, 2020
slyfox35:
Best friends or closest friends as some people term it is quite normal in the life of 80% of world population, I had one too.

We grew up as teens together, matured as adults together, he came to our house always and ate all his meals with us. My mom was really nice to him when she was alive. He wore my clothes and never returned them. I did not ask because my parents always provided for me although they were average citizens.

Then the worst thing in my life happened. I lost both my parents within the space of four years.
Things turned downhill for me (orphans do suffer a lot.. Too much suffering for you to believe there is even God in heaven who takes care of the fatherless and motherless).

My friend travelled to an African country. He kept telling me to come over there to work that things are better there. I kept declining but after a year of constant pressure, I decided to man up, packed my bags and travelled to meet him.

Guess what? I did not stay up to 5 days with him!!!

His attitude changed by the second day, he yells at me at every given opportunity, from his best friend, I turned to his boy, the heat he was given me was so bad that when he leaves the house and he comes back, I get scared just by hearing his footsteps. I virtually turned to a nonentity to him. I had no money on me because the little I had left, he collected it when I arrived. I knew no one, I felt so miserable and alone and I started regretting why I left Nigeria.

On the fifth day ,I woke up early in the morning and shook him up. I don’t know what got into me (but I am glad it did), I told him I can’t stay with him anymore and I want to leave. He did not even feel bad about this, he did not think of the fact that I know nothing and nowhere in this country. He let me go.

I packed my bag amid tears and went into the street. Mind you, I had no one to call back in Nigeria... It was tough on me but as a naija guy and as God will have it, I did not spend even a night on the streets. I was shocked that a total stranger took me in, clothed and fed me. He taught me everything he knows. I worked for 6 months and was able to make 2 million Naira. This was like a dream to me (If you get money ehn, to praise God Dey sweet o)

I came back to Nigeria, rented an apartment, furnished it and continued working from here.

This so called best friend of mine saw my posts and pictures on Facebook and video called me to check on me (I guess his eyes did not believe what he was seeing) he asked me if I am in a hotel, I said no, I am in my apartment. He was shocked (me I nor keep any grudge against you) he told me he was coming to Nigeria and that I should please forgive him and forget everything that happened. I told him I can forgive but can’t forget.

What surprised me most are this exact words he said “my guy, if I come, na your house I go relax first abeg”

Now my fellow Nairalanders, I am asking, how should I go about this?

I have forgiven him but should I allow him into my home?
Lesson are learnt everyday you learnt yours....

Now you have seen life in different directions while you consider him best friend he didn't consider you one

In a nutshell totally be blunt with him never to call you or have anything with you and at thesame time advice him to change for good that is the only gift you can give him gift of sense

But if you decide to let forgiveness play and you dont teach him lesson by cutting off with him tomorrow he may do thesame to someone else because he never learnt any lesson from you ...

Las las e go see you as mugu.. And no lesson was learnt by him


I beg you for all oursake who may oneday encounter him. please punish him for us abeg, by teaching him a lesson of life and don't be soft with him at all, cutoff any relationship with him. and before you do that speak words into his skulls on how he can be a better man then tell him to go kill himself
Also tell him thank you for letting you go out to find success for yourself
Culture › Re: I Had A Dream Last Night by gregyboy(m): 8:23pm On May 18, 2020
Oga have you tested of covik 1 9 birus


If not, go take some Madagascar liquor
Culture › Re: Do You Like An Edoid Nation? by gregyboy(m): 8:18pm On May 18, 2020
Armaggedon:
That's not the point. Igbos don't need them. Ever seen an Igbo campaigning for urhobo and itshekiri or Edo to join Biafra? while I don't hate them, I don't want them also.

my point is Ipob already included them and many of them hate the oodua republic idea while having no dream of their own. It follows that the available which is Biafra could become desirable for them.
Crack me
Culture › Re: Identify By Your Benin Greetings Here by gregyboy(op): 6:58pm On May 18, 2020
kentsozy:
"Lawe" is my family way greeting
From which family tree are you guys still found in that family tree today

Example i greet lani but from the family tree we were from igun but now from uselu....


Your local govt
Culture › Re: Do You Like An Edoid Nation? by gregyboy(m): 6:48pm On May 18, 2020
valirex:
We will be waiting for you, and while we are doing that plans we be laid on how we will take Onitcha cheesy

By my calculations 10000 Ogun warriors should be able to take and retain Onitcha grin
Lol
Culture › Identify By Your Benin Greetings Here by gregyboy(op):
Identify by your benin greetings your village and your local government area



I am from uselu and we greet lani or delani, egor local government



So let every other benin drop thier greetings here and lets know ourselves


Oba gha to kpere
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UKHU NA TUE VBEDO SOME TRADITIONAL MORNING SALUTATIONS IN BENIN KINGDOM
These greetings are only peculiar to the Edos (Binis)
It is the juniors in Edo that usually greet their elders in family morning salutations
In the mornings wives within the family greets members irrespective of their age
FAMILY NAME FAMILY SALUTATION
OGISO LAISO
OBA LAUMOGUN
IYASE LAVBIEZE
OLIHA LAOGELE
EDOHEN LAUVBE
EZOMO LAGIESAN
OLOTON LAMEHI
OGIAMEN LAIRE
EHOLO N’RE LAIRE
ENOGIE OF UTE
N’ IYEKORHONWON/EHOLOR OF IGIEDUMA LAGIETE
OBAZUAYE LAMEHI
ELEMA LAGBA
OGIEFA LAIDU
INE N’IGUN/ISI OF UTEKON LAINI
ENOGIE N’UGBO N’EKI LAKUN
OLOGBOSERE LAKUN
OSA LAIKI
OSUAN LABO
CHIEF EDOGUN LAGIEWAN
IYASE OF UDO LAGIEWAN
OSEUNGHA LABO
IDUNMNUN-EBO LABO
ENOGIE N’UGBO N’IYEKORHONWON LABO
ENOGIE T’ UTE LAISO
ISE N’ UTEKON LAYERUVBI
IYASE N’ USELU LAYEDE
OLU-AWUREN USEN DELAIHE
OLOKHUMMUN DELAGUN
ISIMWENRO LATOSE
OKENGHIDE DELAKEN
UMODU LAMODU
EMEZI LAMEZI
ENI OF UZAE (IJARE) LAMORE
AIDE LADE
OLOMORU LAMORU
OLOKE LAUOKE
UGHE LAUGHE
IGIE LAIGE
OHENUKONI EVBIEKOI DELAIHE
ENOGIE OF IRHUE DELALU
EMERI LAMERI
AGIA LAGIA
EZE LAMERO
EMEHE LAMEHE
AKPAN DELAKPAN OR LAKPAN
OMOKUN LAMOKUN
URENI LAIREN
IDU LAIDU
IREN LAIREN
IGIEWA LAIGENA
EMAKON LAMEKON
IZIMA (OJIMA) OKELLUHEN/ CHIEF OROBATION OF BENIN LAYERU
ENOGIE N’VBE LAUVBE
ENOGIE N’EHOR LAUMOGUN
EHOLOR N’IGIEDUMA LAIHON
ENOGIE N’ERUA LAGIERUA
ENOGIE OF EGOR LAUGHE
ENOGIE OF OBEN IYEK’ORHIOMWON LAVBIOBU
ENOGIE OF EVBOEKABUA LAGBIUWA
ENOGIE OF UGHA LAUGHA
ENOGIE OF OKADA LAVBIEKEN
Culture › Re: Benin Was A Yoruba speaking Empire. by gregyboy(m): 5:25pm On May 18, 2020
lawani:
I am not saying the edo are Yoruba. No they are not, but the Benin palace and empire were Yoruba speaking in the past. The palace was a city on its own, home to over 50 thousand people and all these people were Yoruba in language. Oranmiyan did not found Igodomigodo but renamed it to Ife ubinu. I just want it acknowledged that Benin in all its extent was Yoruba speaking officially and not edo speaking.
Samuel johnson never mentioned Oronmiyan begotten edo monarchy but he instead they were brothers and oromiyan was far way younger than benin who was is older brother ......


If oyo people couldn't tell samuel johnson they established benin monarchy to samuel johson in thier history then the history was all made up.....


Was there any brother relationship btw benin-oyo in the past the only document about benin and oyo was when they clash during yoruba war when edo had to protect the instrest of yoruba vassals state under them


Eweka 11 said what he said for political reasons


If benins couldn't identify oghene location till today who ruled over them in the past but luckily eweka could identify ife the founder of the obaship that was way other than ogene which was told by the edo to Portuguese centuries after establishing establishing the oba monarchy


Nigga think i know you want to take ethnocentric pride, but before you do make sure all doubt are cleared



I can't even take info from a tribe like yoruba who thier first history wss documented in the late 19c



Go and read the book of Samuel Johnson history of yorubas original copy unrevised
Culture › Re: Benin Was A Yoruba speaking Empire. by gregyboy(m): 4:05pm On May 18, 2020
lawani:
The edo have hijacked the history of the Benin empire, trying to ease out everything Yoruba in it when the empire was Yoruba in and out. We must always remind them at every given opportunity that Benin was totally Yoruba.
We wont change history if there is no doubt....

We edos will even be happy to be called yorubas


But we cant be so insensitive and oveelook the loop holes made by eweka the 11,



Just know two things


Edo would be happy to be yorubas if there was no doubt in oba eweka ascertion

2) if ife and benin history was not a matter of debate by both the oba and yoruba people maybe they wont be need of this controversy if all oba of benins had said say yes to oromiyan establishing obaship not ekaladeran finding ife


And yet in all tgis the earliest yoruba writter never said oromiyan founded benin
Culture › Re: Post Samuel. J Article Written In 1897 Supporting Oromiyan Arrival In Benin by gregyboy(op): 12:02pm On May 18, 2020
TAO12:
Worthless gay.
Am gregyboy dummy not gayboy if you're looking for gays you can go to the search button on nairaland to find them.... You slut
Culture › Re: Post Samuel. J Article Written In 1897 Supporting Oromiyan Arrival In Benin by gregyboy(op): 12:01pm On May 18, 2020
TAO12:
Worthless gay.
My dog slut
Culture › Re: Post Samuel. J Article Written In 1897 Supporting Oromiyan Arrival In Benin by gregyboy(op): 11:58am On May 18, 2020
TAO12:
Yes, I always cry after exposing you to be a clueless gay.
I will still rather die than let my dog Bleep you
Culture › Re: Post Samuel. J Article Written In 1897 Supporting Oromiyan Arrival In Benin by gregyboy(op): 11:57am On May 18, 2020
TAO12:
Anyone who thinks you are normal is not normal.

(1) S. Johnson was born in 1846.

But gayboy (aka gregyboy) insists that same Johnson was writting Yoruba histories in the year 1820 --- that is, more than 20 years before his own birth.

Should gayboy (aka gregyboy) still be allowed to freely roam the streets?

(2) Oba Eweka II of Benin Kingdom ruled from 1914 to 1933.

Old Western Region of Nigeria was established in the year 1967.

But gayboy (aka gregyboy) insists that same Oba Eweka time-travelled into the future to become a member of the Nigeria Western Region.

Should gayboy (aka gregyboy) still be allowed to freely roam the streets?

(3) Fun Fact:

Same Oba Eweka II of Benin Kingdom informed an European visitor, H.L. Ward-Price, sometimes in the 1920s that his (i.e. Oba Eweka II's) ancestor and lord lives in Ile-Ife. grin
Worthless pussy
Culture › Re: Post Samuel. J Article Written In 1897 Supporting Oromiyan Arrival In Benin by gregyboy(op): 11:55am On May 18, 2020
TAO12:
Says the clueless one who got exposed by my humble self. grin
Fake laugh.... Beneath the meme there is a flood of tears unseen
Culture › Re: Post Samuel. J Article Written In 1897 Supporting Oromiyan Arrival In Benin by gregyboy(op): 11:54am On May 18, 2020
TAO12:
I know you will be triggered that I'm exposing you to be a clueless dummy.
Fraustrated bitch..... Lol......



This is the best you can get from me
Culture › Re: Post Samuel. J Article Written In 1897 Supporting Oromiyan Arrival In Benin by gregyboy(op): 11:51am On May 18, 2020
TAO12:
You already unknowingly admitted being gay, don't you remember?

I know you're mad that I keep exposing you!
Lol.... E pain her
Culture › Re: Post Samuel. J Article Written In 1897 Supporting Oromiyan Arrival In Benin by gregyboy(op): 11:50am On May 18, 2020
TAO12:
You already admitted being gay, don't you remember?
I pity you.... Soon we will be seeing you creating thread on nairaland adressing the search of husband

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