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Efesogie:That's why i dont quote the lieing machine again , |
Even the gods can save themselves Or can this be a recounter from the oba od lagos ![]() |
googi:We the benins had built the southwestern nigeria before the arrival if the British we sold the Yoruba's as slaves that's why you as a yoruba Nigerian can be proud of a Brazilian yoruba instead of spilling trash in an attempt to spite me , you should rather be given we benins gratitude.... For all we have done for the yoruba nation Akure the capital of ondo has a benin ruling monarch Ado ekiti has a benin minarch Eko has a benin monarch Osun ife the cradle of yoruba people has a benin monarch |
If jos is this cold how come they are that dark in complexion Over here in benin we dey find cold ooh Benin should be 28c still very hot |
All these yoruba people just dey yarn nonsense Una just dey find how d oba take fit Every nigga with e own explanation Some say na obatala , some say na greeting , some say na god Make una rest |
The benin long oave roads and the architectural designs
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This one he labeled “benin palace: akoko tree gardens” This one I find interesting. I like the strict adherence to the style of building seen in the brass plaques and the photographs. I like the incorporation of the bird of prophecy on the top of the turret as well. And I don’t know if he already knew this, but the depiction of gardens is backed by historical sources: “This compound consisted of about a hundred houses, whose roofs made a good blaze. Behind the buildings there was a huge garden, which we never had time to explore, but it must have been quite a hundred acres, surrounded by a high red wall. It is not unlikely that it was the walking place of the King, and formed part of his compound . . .” – Reginald H. Bacon, Benin (1897) It would be interesting if this thread in some way gave him any ideas or help. grin cool That’s probably just conceit on my part, though. He could have just found out about Benin architecture on his own. Either way, I’m impressed. I really have to give this guy credit. These are some of the best architectural depictions of Benin seen.
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He labeled this “palace of benin impluvial shrine” I like how he incorporated 1) the impluvium 2) the thatch on the roof 3) the open roof courtyard 4) the Benin style of columns (note the difference between the bottom and top of the column) as seen in photographs 5) a known, but not yet seen (due to the destruction of the palace) historical fact that was attested to by Dapper’s informant and multiple other visitors to Benin: “The king’s palace or court is a square, and is as large as the town of Haarlem and entirely surrounded by a special wall, like that which encircles the town. It is divided into many magnificent palaces, houses, and apartments of the courtiers, and comprises beautiful and long square galleries, about as large as the Exchange at Amsterdam, but one larger than another, resting on wooden pillars, from top to bottom covered with cast copper, on which are engraved the pictures of their war exploits and battles, “ —Olfert Dapper, Nauwkeurige Beschrijvinge der Afrikaansche Gewesten Although the type of columns may have been of earth, rather than wood in the case of the type of columns used for his artistic depiction. Still, there were certainly columns, whether earthen or wooden, on which art was displayed.
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“Legroing tells us : ” The city of Benin is situated in a plain surrounded by deep ditches. Vestiges of an old earthen wall are to be seen ; the wall could hardly have been built of any other material as we did not see a single stone in the whole journey The houses for the most part are covered with latanier leaves, and those of the king with large shingles. In front of the king’s houses there were two thick clumps of high trees, and these appeared to us to be the only trees planted by the hand of man (Labarthe, p. 175).” From Landolphe we learn that a ” ditch more than 20 feet wide and as deep surrounds the town, and the soil taken out is made on the city side into a talus, on which a thorny hedge has been planted so thick, that not even an animal can get through. The height of this talus deprives one of a view of the houses at a distance, and one does not see them until entering the town, the gates of which are very far apart ” (II., 48). ” The streets are very broad ; in the middle there is turf on which the kids and sheep feed ; about thirty feet from the houses there is a level road, covered with sand for the inhabitants to walk on ” [ibid, II., 50). He also mentions several spacious courts surrounded by earthen walls about sixteen feet high. Along the inside of the walls there ran a gallery fifteen feet wide, thatched with natanier. The thatching is done by overlapping the leaves which not being pulled apart, fall one on top of another to a thickness of eighteen inches. This roof is supported by large pieces of timber cut into the shape of pillars. They are set up about eighteen feet apart, and carry stout horizontal planks on which abut the sloping joists which carry the roof, which was an ingenious piece of work “ (ibid, I., 111-112). Of the apartments of the king’s wives he says the walls are twenty feet high and five feet thick, solidly built of earth [ibid, I., 335).” – H. Ling Roth, Great Benin ] Modern (recent) concept art by Stephen Hamilton giving his artistic interpretation
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The king’s wall in Benin City. Benin, Nigeria. Silver gelatin print, 10.2cm x 13.9cm (4″ x 5.5″wink. Photograph by J. H. Swainson, 1892. Macdonald Niger Coast Protectorate Album, A1996-190138.” [It should be noted that the angle doesn’t give a good impression of the height of the wall:
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An 1897 photograph of a Benin building. This is not from that article (“Images of Benin at the Pitt Rivers Museum” by Coote and Edwards) above, for the record.
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Note the beams, identical to those that can be seen in that 1897 photograph of one of the courtyards of the Benin palace. Also note the impluvium
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This painting of a section of the Palace (occupied by British officers) was by Egerton after the fall of Benin either immediately after (in 1897) or shortly after from memory.
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This painting of a compound somewhere in Benin was made by Egerton or one of his aides in 1897 after the fall of Benin. Captain George LeClerc Egerton, “King’s Palace, Benin,” 1897(?). Watercolor on paper, image 15cm x 32.5cm (5.9″ x 12.8″wink. Dumas Egerton Trust Benin Collection, Pitt Rivers Museum, University of Oxford, PRM: 1991.13.29. Acquired on long-term loan in 1991
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Some of the houses in Warri are described by Olfert Dapper in 1668 in this manner: “It has fine buildings, particularly the houses of the nobility, roofed with palm leaves, and like those in Benin, but made of grey earth while those in Benin are red. The court of the King is established in the manner of that in Benin but very much smaller.” The houses of Benin and Warri would have had some similarity so it was not that big a mistake on my part
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This images shows the building structure of the benin houses the walls are lined with horizontal lines as a form of beautification the houses are made of red clayish sands and the roofs are made from fine wolds and dry palm leaves
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[size=8pt]First dynasty( bc- 9ad) ogiso[/size] Benin City started as a cluster of thirty-one villages which were aggregates of family units, at the the beginning of the kingdom this various families where autonomous, with no strong central power or authority,though they were ruled by a king ( ogiso) the ogiso poses little powers over this villages . it is belived that the ogiso was the father of the various clans ,during this early times they were guided by laws and taboos ,The kingdom was said to have had 36 ogiso or more before emerge of the obaship,the ogiso at this times yielded little power, as powers rested more on the various clans than the ogiso,the last ogiso during( 9AD) before the era of the obaship reign had only one male child from one of his wives he got worried ,as the other wives pressured him to seek sloution to thier male barrenness which he called the chief priest, one of the oba favourite wives begged the oba to accompany the chief priest to seek the solution for the other wives, the ogiso allowed ,when the priest consulted the gods he was told the favorite wive had bewitched the other wives from having male children out of jealousy, right there at the shrine she begged the guards and the chief priest for mercy and also bribed them not to tell. which they agreed she went ahead to further plot with the chief priest and guards to assassinate the young prince, the chief priest later returned to the palace and informed the oba that his only son was the reason he couldn't have other male children and that he was needed to be killed, so he could have other male children,the ogiso without having second thought ordered his guard to kill his only son (ekaladeran) to appease his other wives who were pressuring him for thier male barrenness,the guards knowing fully well it was a plot decide to allow the young prince ekaladeran go free into the forest,the ogiso later died after some years ,the story of the plot unfolded to the whole kingdom , Second dynasty ogie( 9ad to early 10ad) a man who had defeated a deadly beast that once terrorized the kingdom stood in as the ogiso sucessor after his death ,some chiefs were in support of him ruling most chiefs was against him because he was not of royal blood they belive since he is not divine like the ogiso it will spell doom for the villages and they sort all effort to fetch ekaladeran with the help of the priest who informed them ekaladeran has seeked refuge at ife,the chiefs later went to ife were they found ekaladeran has a king at ife, and was now old of age he instructed his son oromiyan to go with the benin chiefs ,oromiyan getting to benin found that the benin people were always angry at slight provocation and were always fighting in disagreement, he sought to go to the palace but was scared of being assinated by the present ruler ogiemen" who placed a bounty on his head,ogiemien had put a Bounty on him to be captured if he steos to benin because of the political system at then his army couldn't enter the village ekaladeran settled to capture him Oromiyan got tired one day and left benin back to ife before he left he had impregnated the enogies daughter of that village, who later gave bith to oba eweka the first, Third dynasty oba( 10AD till present) Eweka grew and had to fight the old ogiemien which they later came up with a diplomatic resolution at the end ,it was a new era eweka refusdd to takd the title ogiso, or ogie .ogiemien had earlier crowned himself ogie and not ogiso oba eweka neglected to the two previous tiltes and took a new title o- ba ( shinning one) He was crowned oba Oba eware Oba eware had ascended the throne shortly before the arrival of the Portuguese he is praised has the man who truely united the kingdon into one and expanded the kingdon into an empire he was a warlord at the times the benin obas were still warkings, and before his ascension, benin was still very disorganized and the various villages lived autonomously the oba power was limited to the varioua villages after his coronation he brought all the various village under his rule and strengthen his military he was also a warlord and referred to as oba ewaure the great ,he was very strict king and he made strict laws ,he was always at the war front with his armies ,at his time benin took upon the look of a city he was the king behind the ancient city planning of benin ,after his death in 1453 the portuguese arrived shortly to meet the city he had created the Portuguese arrived at 1474,at thier arrival they ment a planned organized city ewuare had left behind ,they had visited some other kingdoms other neighbouring kingdoms but were not as impressed when they meant benin this alone amazed them which made them call it a city and compared it to europe... They did well to invite othef European to the shores of benin The empire The empire unlike other kingdoms was totally built on military power for economic contrtrol , after ewuare had built a powerful military city he expanded it for political power and not necessarily for economic power other oba before ewaure had done the same after the arrival of the Portuguese the kingdom needed to be expanded for economic power to control trade around neighbouring kingdoms, the benins will go into territories that had potential economic power colonized them inorder to control the economic potential, places like lagos, itsekiri were colonized for economic power rather for political motives, the arrival of more Europeans into the city led for more expansion of the empire but the empire had difficulties expanding beyond its control,l it had the military to conquer large territories but was mostly faced with internal rivalry arising from thr palace over sucession this caused political instability and the lack of vast political knowledge to efficiently rule over large vassal state under it ,as most vassal had to be reconquered on several bases like the benin anomia war in the 17century, though the empire didnt cover over large areas of the present southern nigeria but it had economic power over it,independent state who refused the oba economic monopoly were conquered to acess full economic potential the control of economic power over southern nigeria by the British from the oba had resulted to the fall of the empire which is known as the Benin invasion of 1897... Philosophical belief of the empire Like everyother kingdoms and empire the benin had its own philosophy they belive thier king( ogiso) had come from the sky and he was a god king who came to rule among them he was Reverend like a god on earth they belive any mortal who sat on the royal stool without a linage to the ogiso dynasty spelt doom for the kingdom on some very few occasions wher it happened it was corrected like the time an oba rebuked any of his sons from being king after his death the man who became king was forced to marry the oba daughter to continue the lineage and that of the story of oduduwa who he son later returned to become king to secure the ogiso dynasty ,the kingdom practice it own unique animism were prayers were first made to oba as a god then to the ancestors of the family The kingdom was purely purely patriarch in nature and not on economic wealth,various villages had thier own special gods and foreign gods were also brought in the gods remained foreign and was never accoladed like the original deities of the kingdom they belive the oba owned the earth and sea ,some foods were very scared to the kingdom like yam they belive yam was a divine food brought by the gods to men and were food to the gods they offered boiled yams and oil to the gods as sacrifice ,egusi and pounded yam offered to the gods on regular bases the kingdom was full of pride and praises to the oba they believe the language was a pride to them and vassalz state were not alowed to speak the language this pride had made the europea traders unable to influence them religiously and culturally, The benin architecture and planning design Like every great kingdom had their own separate and unique architectural design where the city was surrounded by moat for protection this was done for fear of unseen invaders to the kingdom the walls surroe the moat all houses were arranged in a straight anx orderly manner with a long straight road along it the houses were built in court ,like a square shape the open space were called ugha( sitting room) The palace was located at the centre of the city close to the kings market(oba marke) the city grew around the palace in a concentric pattern around the city |
babtoundey:I dont know what you're trying to coin up there but am not buying it , Iye is mother in benin, Oba is alien to yoruba last time i remeber benin conquered half of yorubas Influence almost 60 to 70 percent of the yoruba people Here is a sculpture made of a benin chief in ife back in 16c The ife people adorned us that they made a sculpture of our chiefs we even fought in the ekiti in Ibadan war ... The word oba came as a phrase for kings because of benin influence over yoruba nation, they soon forget this word oba" was foreign to them over the years as they used it to reference the great king of benin it became a word for a general term for king Even if we had words like obatala in yoruba lingua that also do not connote the word oba cane from there We benins did the influencing on Yoruba's Dont try to twist it around because of one man who came to Benin, before oromiyan arrival ekaladeran had already made effect the worship of ogun, and olokun in ife
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babtoundey:Happy new yr Is called olokun not olukun Orimyan didn't stay upto delivery of the child oromiyan was a Benin Prince from ife He carried the ogiso bloodline that why he was invited if he difnt we could have let ogiemen continue as king The truth is only fellow Yoruba's like you that is buying all this lies to claim oduduwa yoruba when he is benin, we know the tiny benin people messed your beautiful history up but there is no need to denial it... Atleast yorubas have a edge over edo peoole now to have a better history instead of rewriting the past that cant be changed Yea we gave ife king benins didnt loose their religion to Europeans over the years they traded with them but yorubas lost thiers with little influence from outsiders that can only happen if they didnt originally own the religion Happy new yr again |
dayskid:This glasses can shade your destiny in 2020 pls becareful |
Opiletool:
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babtoundey:Lol...funny enough benun was political disorganized and villages were still autonomous politically and ogiemien was the king the king in Benin at oromiyan arrival he placed a bounty on his head he couldnt attack the village he was because the villages were still very autonomous at that ti.e in Benin not untill oba ewauare reign bsnin was fully politically united his reign was centuries after oromiyan had left Again oromiyan didnt rule as king his followers had all left with him back to ife Even if oromiyan managed to had ruled his influence wouldn't be felt in the autonomous kingdom... At then |
Opiletool:Do you know agbado market is in Benin Agbado is a typical benin word when you come to benin ask were is agbado market ,they will show you I hope this my explaination help you understand that the people were speaking the benin dialect when they called that place agbado, when oromiyan left its logical that his follower's accompanied him back to ife leaving the child behind No benin record mentioned oromiyans acompliance stayed behind all account says oromiyan let with peopls who they had come with |
babtoundey:How would the conquered influence the conquerors tell me The only yoruba man who came to benin was oromiyan ,tell me can only oromiyan ulter the benin lexicon, But on the hand benin had visited the heartland of the yoruba people of ife ,they decide not to conquere them because thier son is already on the throne, Some fraction of benin population are found in yoruba state I spoke with a girl in Uniben she is from ondo state i asked she bears both yoruba and and edo name she explained to me her family's is benin who migrated to ondo by the order of the oba of benin before the arrival of the britsh From this you can tell who is going to influence who by words |
O p kudos But for ogun ,osun and ekiti you forgot to add they have phd in head hijacking Aka ritualism |
Yujin:Oyo kingdom that highly disorganized and were continually trashed by dahomey female warrior and Fulani, they should be ashamed to mention it amongst if it even existed from the yoruba account it looks like state under the oyo kingdom were politically autonomous no war was fought to bring the vassals under it ,it was strictly on social gathering the oyo kingdom was weak militarily because they were not used to war ,when the alafin wanted to extends is kingdom to another yoruba kingdom under it,that's how everything went south and a war broke out the new political power after the war rested on ibadan were they attempted to wage war on ekiti a benin vassal state at then ,words was sent to the oba of benin ,and thousands of soldier's were disperse to ekiti to fight the new political power of the yorubas which ekiti won in the war At the early 18c ogendegbe from ijesha ventured to edo north with his fierced warriors he had already conquered some part of edo north when the oba get to here of it he disperse warriors from edo central esan warriors who waged ogendegbe at edo north and defeated him and his army his head was later brought to benin |
CaptainMeks:Hypocrate..... Is america the only white nation... Does it happen in canada Spain or dubai But come to africa ,ooh i forget the headlines reads “sars kills woman only child in edo" Better stop petting africans into this your dillusion to spite the white for your own intrest the crime rate in africa is worse than the ones in hell |
Please dont go ahead and start laying hands on her it would make it worse and it may lead to a bigger issue someday if you have to hit her not frequently let her know she had gone beyond her boundary... Everything you listed here i don't even see it as a problem she just need attention and you need diplomacy with her ... Did you read the posy a nairaland made late this year were is wife wouldnr speak to him or have sex with him that is an issue not yours |
Is oduduwa the true identity of the yorubas A better name should be coined to reflect all yorubas...before another mistake is made again This happens when about 5million tribe couldn't organised themselves before the whitemen arrival .... Just common religion diffeence is pulling the roofs over thier head Modify: a yoruba man called the edo people angry land" and they still bear the word as a tribe and even a country adopted it ,the yorubas were called deciet and bastard i think there is no nedd to change the name a name is given as a reflection of perception to be truthful the fulanis were not wrong calling yorubas Yoruba" it showed what all tribes sees glaring today about the yoruba people... Until the yoruba people change the name would remain unchanged |
lx3as:You have come up with another one... I thought you said i was saying rubbish abd now you saying most of our culture come from owo.... Nigga wont just quit |
cbrass:Am saying what you need to hear And what your people had denied you of
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oga go find something reasonable to do. Compliment of the season to you