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A king who still respect the rough side of history and make something beautiful out of it

Slawormir:
Damnnnnn niggarrr
Abuja anyday anytime twice on Saturday

Lagos is one over rated place

Went there as a Bini boy last two years. In fact it was the day that tanker explosion happened
And i must tell you Lagos is overrated. Too dirty and noisy.

When i entered Abuja same last two years November because i wanted an instant passport because there was no booklet in Edo state and moreover i wanted Abuja on it because i want use am go dope countries like Oman and Bahrain go run my dope shit that was when i knew the difference between Abuja and Lagos

It was even more obvious to me that Edo was actually bigger than Lagos. It took like forever to leave Edo land when you are going to Abuja. All those Edo north was like forever. So Lagos is just one small shiiit hole place that is overcrowded.
Abuja was just organised. Every body just dey organised. Big boys
No noise. I come down from motor na one gentle man approach me ask me say if i need a car drop

But in Lagos i was hearing rubbish like owo da. The conductors and drivers were speaking Yoruba non stop. No body even approach me for car drop. I was looking for where to hide my head and make call because the whole area was noisy



Abuja is too good to be compared with that shiiit hole called lagos

How lagosians take they praise that slum of a state they tire me

Obaseki is a failure ....


Am glad you can even see it ,but his zombies would come here and troll and even go to the extent of blaming obaseki

It is a fact oshiomole did better than obasekis four years i just wonder if obaseki first four years is like this how would is next four years belike...

Everyone is quick to blame oshiomole for his misfortune and they feel comfortable giving the blame to oshiomole and even praising the useless governor for fighting godfatherism,fighting oshiomole is not a bad idea ,but oshiomole is not the issue ti his underperformance, a governor who is faced with unnecessary misplaced priority

Edo don't need to have its stadium renovated at this crucial times,but yes he is wasting money on the project ,while other infrastructure suffers, no good roads ,the road constructed are substandard,no light,no industry, no job no security,the painful part is obaseki came to my area constructed roads after my street and road before my street but he skipped ours which was in the middle and our road is even broader than this other roads and i still dont know why he skipped it
Abi we nor get connection for the area??.

Oshiomole althogh he didnt construct new roads in benin but he did well to reconstruct existing roads and they were all standard security was maximum

Modified: in all this both of them has failed to protect the edo people its a pity edo state may suffer for thier misunderstanding

Her promiscuousness has cost her this life


Even her children won't even help her...

Sleeping with a gateman...e go pain d man ooh nor be small when she was collecting the dick for attention,when she was moaning to it she didnt call edo state attention, for the good dick, now she is calling our attention because karma is giving her hot ,she is Lucky is not oshiomole rule he would have something to say to her if she would not even be arrested,
God saves us from women who loves dicking and hide under the disguise of attention

Fear women.....

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Why are the modrrators not responding

Are you guys now gods you cant reply complaints....

BluntBoy:
He is a lawyer nonetheless.

Whether he studied civil law or criminology or business law, he is a lawyer nonetheless.

There is not one specialization in law that makes you better fit for the CJN role.

I see you're also s tyrant....

Or an islamist

BluntBoy:
How is the nomination unfair?

Is Tanko not qualified to be CJN?

You people don't even know what nepotism mean.

Cjn

Who studied Islamic law , wtf

BluntBoy:
You are just speculating. Speculations cannot win you a case in court.

As for Tanko, how does his nomination amount to corruption? Was it not the National Judicial Council that recommended him to the president?

Who said the national judicial council did that and even if they did was it right,the President had the power to reject such delegation, but due to nepotism he allowed it and Herr you're defending tyranny...
Am making speculation that's what you call it "

I would again quote you back after he leaves post and the hate speech saga is revoked, I hope by then you won't call it speculation

Afamed:
You still ended up not showing me where his looter fund is kept. Show me his foreign account, his private university. His numerous houses in Lagos and overseas. We know and heard of Obasanjo university, Atiku private jets , Atiku University and the rest.

This man why are you talking like a child,

Is corruption only on stolen fund
How did Yusuf buhari gets the money for his million dollar power ,if not stolen fund, a man who sees it fit to legalized hate speech do you think he will be so careless to allow is stolen fund to be announced or he will allow opposition party published that in the news....

Tanko was installed as cjn is that not corruption....

Corruption is overclouded you ,that you can identify one again

Fareee123:
Hi elders in the house, I'm a lady, I'm 21 years old. There's this guy I've been dating for about 3 years, we got along so fast that it feels like I've known him all my life, he's in his final year and I'm in my third year, not in the same school though.

He used to call and text often until middle last year, he stopped calling like he used to, I still do the calling, but I got tired, he wasn't reciprocating, when I complained, he said he's always busy, I feel that if he loves me like he claims, he will always check on me, whenever we're together, the vibes of the relationship is still there, but when we aren't together, he's a different person.

There was a time I broke up, I blocked him, he found a way to reach me and we ironed things out, he changed for 2 weeks before he went to his normal self. He answers to my needs guys, he has been paying my rent since my first year in school, he gives me 10k every 2 weeks, he pays for my hair when I need him to + other stuffs too.

Do you think he can change or do I just leave the relationship?? Please ignore the errors, I'm not perfect.

Maybe he has taken a deep down thought on the relationship...

Maybe he asked himself if you would have been with him, if he had no money....
And maybe the answer is capital NO"

Maybe he loves you that's why he still payiny all the bills or he is fed up but can't stop paying the bills so has not to make it obvious

To win his heart back you need to give him double attention and get to shower him gift too and also show him you're not in the relationship for the Billings

Niggas might have issues weighing him deep down and what you do the help him is Billings if I was him I go don't pack you since,

Una

Dey

Find

Trouble

Even buhari himself is not proud of Nigeria not to say the hungry angry youth

Biko.go and burn DAT shirt

nextstep:
Same as Hollywood. 50% guns (mostly cops and robbers), 10% thrillers (haunted house or serial killer), 30% romantic rubbish (my boyfriend didn't propose, or my boyfriend proposed), and maybe 10% autobiography (small town lawyer against large corporation). Tell me the name of a new Hollywood movie, I can probably predict the script for you.

We all just want to forget our troubles and escape into fantasy.

You are right,

I can have 50 Hollywood movies and I get to watch just 5 and the others are boring and are easily predictable and are full of the same story line
But Nigerians don't mind as long is an American movie its good to go
And the funny thing is holloywood end up repeating thesame old storyline continuously and yea they don't complain because it's america"

Opiletool:
From Ooni cat walking, to Oba of Benin dancing shakushaku. Seems the gods have introduced a new 'highing' substance to their representatives.

You must be the high one,

I smell jealousy and hatred from your comments it shows you're from a land with no regards for kings probably the land were the children wake their elders with legs in the morning,

A king dances in it's palace dance's a step of a Nigerian musician instead of you accolading his effort to entertain the children but you saw it as an opportunity you choose to rain insult on your head, good for you

Lemme call tao11 on your head for insulting his king

princeking2:
Please mention one thing, you have died for.
If you can't, then forever remain silent.

Yes, I died in my former life for this country lemme not go into details

Really must i die first before i can trash youe stupid comment people who willing to die for a better country ,your insulting them

princeking2:
Protest + gunshot = Death.

Use your head this 2020.

You live before you protest.

See coward talks you will remain a slave forever

People died for what you are enjoying today i mean almost everything you enjoy today

Be there making coward speech

TAO11:
Debunk? "Theriously"!? No, you didn't

You only complained about your cluelessnes regarding how the internet works in verifying academic references, and that I should help you.

Nigga post the link ...

TAO11:
Shsharap!

It was Oranmiyan who changed your village's name from "Igodomigodo" to "Ubinu" which the Portuguese came ---- some 300 years later --- to pronounce as "Benin".

Otherwise, explain how the Europeans will suddenly ---- for strange reasons ---- call your village "Benin" instead of its actual name "Igodomigodo".

Your logic is obviously leaky.

Nigga as i said earlier it is a Portuguese name and you admitted to the fact it is

Ile binu =does it sound benin i guess no

Portuguese could have coined the word on thier own from their own language

If i am to accept the word is a yoruba word then the binis were correct when they said oduduwa was their son

cbrass:
See lies o, after now, you will be abusing somebody for lying, imagine!!! Every Ibini person knows that Ibini is Yoruba word, even Ewuare 1 tried in vain to eradicate the name

Ile binu

Does it sound benin"


Ile ife on the otherhand absolutely sound Benin...

Ile( hide) ,nife( to succeed)

TAO11:
Firstly, what do you mean by cunny, you dummy??

Secondly, you lied again (as expected) where you wrote that the Europeans' writings was not from the words of Bini authorities, but only from their actions that they observed. I wonder how this even make any case in your favor. But nevertheless a refutation of this lie is attached below.

Thirdly, regarding the bolded portion of your crossed-out rant, can you then quote the write ups that doesn't suit me which I often avoid?? What have you been waiting for?? That's the whole point of this exchange, isn't it??

Lastly, regarding the foremost and world-renowned indigenous Bini historian, Chief Jacob Uwadiae Egharevba --- The aspects of his accounts of Bini history which does not go down well with the 1970s revisionists are ...... wait for it ...... ...... Those that describe the undeniable primacy of Ile-Ife and its supremacy over Benin kingdom among others.

The next logical question to ask then becomes:

Why will Chief Egharevba (a Bini man, a Bini chief, a curator of the Benin Museum, and a consultant on Benin traditions whose knowledge of Benin history, laws and customs was used in Native Court cases) come up or accept accounts which he knows to be false and which demeans his own heritage?? ---- Read up on what is known as the Criterion of Embarrassment.

The answer is obvious though:

This illustrious Bini historian was simply collecting accounts of Bini history, as well as the Ife connection, from Bini informants such as the Esekhure, the Ihogbe, et al. (whom he listed and referenced in his works). He collected them into writing for posterity regardless of how uncomfortable some of the accounts may have made him feel. For example:

(i) That the Edo Ekaladerhan is an entirely different person from the Yoruba Oduduwa or Oranmiyan.

(ii) That certain late Obas of Benin have their heads exhumed and buried in Ife, etc.


Other interesting information to consider about the so-called Bini "scholars" who disagreed with Egharevba on the Ife connection are as follows:

(i) The so-called Bini "scholars" (namely: S. B. Omoregie; Edun Akenzua; D. U. Edebiri; and Air Iyare) who FIRST came up with the Ekaladerhan is Oduduwa/Oranmiyan theory did so at different times during the early 1970s; whereas Chief Egharevba collected his accounts of Benin history in as far back as the early 1930s. Whose account then is closer to the sources, Chief Egharevba's or the revisionists'??

(ii) These so-called Bini "scholars" are actually no scholar or historian, but amateur revisionists with no formal training. And as is to be expected in their amateurish "historical works", no attempt is made to cite the sources of their strange information, nor did they make any attempt to name any informant.

(iii) Like I have demonstrated earlier, their revisionist attempt has be unanimously debunked, time and time again, and forgotten by historians of Bini history worth the name all over the world.

(iv) In sum, it is not for amateurs to decide who is an authoritative historian and who is not. No, that is the job of experts and scholars. And as I have once shown in the words of Dr. R. E. Bradbury, Chief J. U. Egharevba's account of Bini history was collected "from well selected informants who had grown to maturity before 1897. The memories which they retained of past traditions had not had much time to be overlaid and distorted by pressing interests and the new problems of the modern world."

Elsewhere Dr. R. E. Bradbury, writes in relation to Chief Egharevba's work that it "has become something of a classic, known and relied upon not only in Nigeria, but by scholars all over the world, (as) ... a valuable, indeed an indispensable, pioneering work."

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Obalufon

I have debunk that screenshot from our previous argument but you still decide ti bring thst edited page ....

Share the link of the page so your fellow brothers can see is fake...

I will to also debunk it here again

First thing first share the link

Olu317:
Oviedo well done with the fairytale of Igodomigodo's revisionism. Beside, Bini is a Yoruba word.

Bini is a poutuguese word dont mistake it

Edo is a benin word

If you believe the short devil is the master mind behind apc atrocities

Click like or share otherwise

TAO11:
What about citing the work of the earliest and world-renowned indigenous Benin historian, Chief J. U. Egharevba, whose account shows that Ekaladerhan was exiled to Ughoton where he then lived and died??

Will that be neutral and fair to you?

I don't seem to know any non-Nigerian African historian of ancient Benin.

Moreover, the so-called "whiteman" visited Benin in as early as the late 1400s, and documented some Benin traditions that has formed the foundation of most of their works which I cite.

Lol, very funny and cunny fellow you're
all written records on the whitemen in Benin were account wriiten on what the whitemen saw and not what they heard ,
You see why you can never be good is because one you will akways find ways to cover the loop holes in yoruba history becauss of so much lies in it ,and the painful thing is you will find way to drag benin into it, the second things is you always quote writeups that suits you and neglect other ones that dont suit you....

Guy if you ever talk about egharvbas writeup again after all benin scholars have pointed out the writeup was false account ,
You will never get a reply from me again

TAO11:
If I had cited you the earliest and most prominent Benin historian, namely: Chief Jacob Egharevba ------ whose writing was to the same effect as the above ---- you will have reverted with the shameful and counterintuitive excuse that he was deliberately lying against his own Benin heritage because he did his first three or so primary school years in Yorubaland.

If I had cited you any prominent Yoruba historian who agrees with what I have earlier found in the writings of these Western researchers, then your excuse would have been more obviously predictable.

And I am left with the most fair and rational alternative of citing you a neutral and authoritative observer who has no stake in the superiority banter of the Yorubas and the Edos.

Yet, that somehow wasn't fair. "Theriously!?"

If you have are to be nuetural then cite from an african author or our closest neighbours like the igbos or other tribes in Nigeria that would give a true reflection and not from a whiteman

TAO11:
Does the following look familiar to you??


This false Bini forgery and propaganda of the 1970s (that Oduduwa was one and the same person as a certain wandering Ekaladerhan) have been debunked, again and again, by historians the world-over.

This myth has long been busted and have long been dismissed and forgotten in academia (as apocryphal, pseudo-historical, and unauthentic), except among Benin Nairalanders.


For example, the world-renowned scholar and expert of Benin History, Dmitri M. Bondarenko, of the Institute for African Studies in the Russian Academy of Sciences, writes and I quote here:


"Finally, there are the APOCRYPHAL versions of Benin oral tradition. ... (wherein) Ekaladerhan ... Some time later ... left Gwato for Ife."

D. M. Bondarenko continues:

"According to other versions of the kind, after leaving Gwato, Ekaladerhan founded another settlement, Ile-Ife and became her first ruler under the name of Oduduwa."

After having thoroughly combed through the different versions of this Apocryphal account, D. M. Bondarenko wrapped up his assessment of this account by noting that:

"However, a student of ancient Benin might feel obliged to REJECT the APOCRYPHAL versions without hesitation as deliberately UNAUTHENTIC. There are no their records made before the early 1970s ..."

This Apocryphal and unauthentic account which says that Ekalederhan became king in Ife are non-existent before the 1970s, he said.

He then puts the final nail in the coffin by submitting that:

"There is no doubt that the APOCRYPHAL versions are NOT AUTHENTIC and are not popular. Their authors are representatives of the nationalistically-minded part of the Bini intelligentsia who are seeking to ground the idea of an exceptional antiquity for their people and claims for its exclusive part in the socio political life of independent Nigeria ... Behind such PSEUDOHISTORICAL studies by intellectuals, as if harmless, one can make out serious problems for the country ..."


Refer for details to: 

Dmitri M. Bondarenko, "Advent of the Second (Oba) Dynasty: Another Assessment of a Benin History Key Point", History in Africa, Vol. 30 (2003), pp. 67 - 68, Cambridge University Press.

You should be ashamed for quoting a Whiteman on african history....

Thats why your kings surrendered thier balls to the whitemen on a platter of gold

Efesogie:
Don't allow his trolling get to you.
You seem tired of talking to the troll and you are now ready to make a deal with his lies to avoid his trolling.
1) Chief Agho Obaseki was Iyase, not Oba.
2) Being crowned means being made king.
3) There was no palace when the actual palace was burnt down.
4) Nobody in Benin empire left his sit "when they heard ooni of ife" was summoned to Lagos.
5) stop trying to cut a deal with liars, if you are tired of talking to the Yoruba trolls then just don't talk to them. Their main thing is to try to talk about a period which is mostly unknown and then claim things took place in that period without bringing any proof whatsoever.
This is an easy trick. Unfortunately for them, this period of time is very well known, just not to most I'll educated Nigerians.
Google will never replace education.

Yea you're right am sick and tired quoting this guys my hands hurt and my eyes

I doubt if such occurence even occured ,even it occured it is likely for the oba if it happened he was present to even show a form of respect to the oni as sympathy father to son but is very unlikely for your greatgrand dad to make such move he will be so irritated if such news even get to him
As for the agho obaseki we know in history is very unlikely he wouke respect the ordeal....

I keep telling the Yoruba's that history is empty for them they shouldn't bother rewriting the little ones they made, because it will totally damage the ones they made ,and they will end up left with non to say at the end of the day , a yoruba person can never write ,Yoruba history without including benin to top it,
If benin is not added the history wont have weight

They keep using the oduduwa history to tire thier history to ours ,benins have made history leave it like that , the present world has giving yoruba upper hand to write a good history they never had but instead they rather remain slaves to the fulani people ,

Someone should tell them if benins had the population they have the fulanis would have longed pack to thier original homeland or the country would have been way longed divided by now

TAO11:
You are the same fool yesterday, today, and forever.

Please point out where I had claimed that he wore a crown?

Please point out where I had claimed that your edonet said he wore a crown?

You're obviously responding to a strawman and not to my argument.

As I have repeatedly written, the article clearly says he "acted as the Oba of Benin during the interregnum, 1897-1914".

How clearer must I and your edonet article be before you realize that crown has absolutely nothing to do with my argument??

For the umpteenth time Agho Ogbedeoyo was installed (by the British Governmnet) to act in the capacity of Oba of Benin just immediately after Ovanramwen's expulsion.

And this lone fact destroys the sentiment you were trying to push (with your second moniker) that Benin kingdom had no palace and no ruler around the year 1903.

No, Benin Kingdom did have a palace around the year 1903, from where Agho Ogbedeoye ruled, and from where Eweka 2 also later ruled prior to his rebuilding of the ruins of the razed palace.

You've obviously been blinded by your prejudice which obviously resulted frim the hell that you've been made to go through at my hands in the past.

May you be alright and be able to forget the past!

Find attached below from your own indigenous source:

That part is settled now , i felt the your panic when i mentioned you ,you were so carefull not to misinform,

Anyway the ordeal has been settled obaseki wasnt the oba but acted as one in the oba absent so vacating his stool for the ooni for a protest was is own personal doing and can't be equated to the throne or the oba of benin, and even if the oba was on sit
And carried out such action it will be because of father( benin) to son (ife) sympathy

The benin war between the britsh ended not because the britsh had won the city or the benin surrendered

Aftet the captured of the oba ,the war then escalated and the people were ready to free their oba by all means , the captured oba knowing fully well it will spill more casualties for benin told his young son to abducate any further war in other save benin, before the benin surrendered

The war was still pending until benin people were finding the suspicious activities between obaseki and the britsh
When the British brought the idea to the Benin people , it ignited the pending war the britsh saw it coming and quickly made peace and made obaseki a close rank to the oba and not the oba

TAO11:
It is an abomination for the British Government to appoint an (interim) Oba over Benin kingdom, but it's no abomination for the same British Government to exile an already ruling Oba of Benin, right??

Keep deceiving yourselves and each other.

And regarding the name of the interim Oba of Benin appointed by the British Government, Obaseki was the chieftaincy title he held in Benin kingdom prior to his appointment to serve in the capacity of Oba of Benin.

His actual name is Agho Ogbedeoyo. You may like to argue with your own people in the link below:

https://www.edoworld.net/Obas.html

Scroll down to just after Oba Ovonramwen Nogbaisi to read up, from your own indigenous Edo/Benin sources, on the man whose name is Agho Ogbedeoyo, who "acted as the Oba of Benin during the interregnum, 1897-1914".


You all obviously know next to nothing.

Lol...you're full of shit and lies

Am going to make it simple by sharing the screenshot of that same edonet you qouted you should have read the article to the end to get what the writer was saying
Obaseki was never crowned oba in benin
It was simply a mistake by the wriite crom the beginning of the article,
Like they say never judge a book from the start"

Efesogie:
There was never any "replacement oba".
And "Agho Ogbedeoyo", your quick google research failed you. This happense when people are trying to pretend they know something while they know nothing.
When the Oba of Benin who fought a war against britain was in exile, Chief Agho Obaseki, the great grand father of the current governor of Edostate ruled as Iyase (prime minister), not Oba. The british tried to make him Oba but such is an abomination in Benin tradition, therefor the Edo resisted it and were ready for an other war which is why the british gave up the idea. In 1914, after the demise of Oba Ovonramwen, his first son, the crown prince of Benin Kingdom returned and took over the title of his father.

Also, you seem to not understand what the word "interregnum" means. It means there was no king, which contradicts your claim of a replacement Oba !
Basically you went on google and typed here what you read in the internet. What you wrote is out of topic and the fact your earlier writeup is a bunch of lies still stands. In 1903 the Oba of Benin was Oba Ovonramwen, he was in exile and his palace was burnt down. The palace was rebuilt in 1914.

So you are a bloody liar.

For the Yoruba people if you dont belive anything he says please believe the bolded , if you understand benin traditions you wont debate in it ,it was almost thesame occurrence we had between the ife and Benin people


For the recorded toaf ,it is agho obseki and not the other imaginary name you called him up there