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davidnazee:
I don’t hate white people, or Asians or Arabs.. I’m instead cautious about all of them because the world is in a competition and blacks should strive to come out on top.
The world has been in a competition since beginning of time and the whites got the better of us. I won’t hate them for that, rather I will be mad at my ancestors for loosing out in the competition. Look at the East Indians, Asians, even Arabs, you think the whites didn’t carry out same policies they did in Africa over there? Those people have moved forward and are mostly progressives but Africans in this modern era are at the bottom of the ladder. Go round all black nations around the world it’s same story. Hopelessness and dejection every where. Is it the fault of the white people that we are still where we are?
How come the black race you claim conquered and ruled the world cannot now even figure out how to build a better and prosperous society for themselves when other races are doing it? We claim civilization started in Africa yet we are the most uncivilized race on earth. Egyptian civilization was more of a cult like thing, restricted only to a few. It wasn’t out reaching, they didn’t spread their knowledge that is why it died out.

My brother thank you ...u see the truth i see i love philosopher like do u knowi actually forgot the reasons why egypt never spread thier civilization...

Your problem is that you have hate in your heart, blinded with hate and wallowing in your delusion and false history so you cannot reason properly. All you can think of is being the Moors that conquered Spain.

It so bad africans want to click to something to remove shame from thier eyes especially west africans they trace origins to egypt even without prove just because egypt had a significant history
Thats thesame thing yorubas do to edo history go on net to any yoruba history they always find away to link thier history with benins twist in away not too obvious but in favour of them ...the fellow yoruba men here are big example of it just see the way obalufon and moorish are claiming ties to the Moors ....instead we making history now to remove the shame peeps like yorubas are busy rewriting edo histories nd clicking to a far away malian empire

Obalufon:
No why did Egyptian technology go extinct why did Asian technology stopped . War, slavery and greatest of evil White man religion. Christian justify the enslavement of blacks........ Portuguese Or Spanish explorer didn't see your forefathers as being backward they were amazed by what they saw on ground learnt from you to benefit themselves and develop their continent.. when your forefathers were busy fighting wars instigate by whites crackers 500yrs is not a joke.. We've lost so many things our ancestor couldnt pass on much of the old wisdom the little they could pass on we see it as demonic..

Asia's is way more ahead everyday im technology
Japan put our colonial masters in thier place...africa is still going to remain down over other Continent because we never fought a real war against the colonials

Moorish:
I am actually going to be in Benin 2mrw

Please let us meet at your location of choice

So u can come and fight i have no strength for that you might win me or i might even mistskenly kill you in the process and my planned life is ruined no i am too civilized for that ...you should go to alaba you can pick a good fight from there...

Animal...... I fight intellectually ....

Is this how you goonna pull yourselve throught this life i bet in a few yrs you will end up in jail with ur atitude and we will get less worry about a Yoruba lier

Obalufon:
No why did Egyptian technology go extinct why did Asian technology stopped . War, slavery and greatest of evil White man religion. Christian justify the enslavement of blacks........ Portuguese Or Spanish explorer didn't see your forefathers as being backward they were amazed by what they saw on ground learnt from you to benefit themselves and develop their continent.. when your forefathers were busy fighting wars instigate by whites crackers 500yrs is not a joke.. We've lost so many things our ancestor couldnt pass on much of the old wisdom the little they could pass on we see it as demonic..

Am no religious person ...but i accept all religion be it the atr as an individual true religion to themselves.... But i hate an exteremist religious person so deeply ...and it seems that what our fathers busy during pre colonial era they were exteremist to religion as a whole they didnt think outside it ...they never philosophized they dwelt purely on religion for thier congnitive thinking ....
Thats what limited africans from going to egypt or even Ethiopia to seek for natural knowledge

Obalufon:
your forefathers were uncivilized take that to you chiefs MONKEY MAN..I am a yoruba we are diferent.. I have always let you suckers know that we are different.. we have history .


go and lick your white master ass

What history do u boost of the colonial era history or d slaves history all are history yorubad should be ashamed to talk when history are said
Ur history if one thing knows it is slavery

Obalufon:
you people are ignorant ..i can't blame you as MR Moor said you've been programmed to hate yourselves..but I'm yoruba with values and history..i don''t worship crackers..empire rise and fall..technology is universal that is what is bursting your heads..blacks made lot of contribution in science and technology to humanity ok

No one said blacks didnt contribute a thing like favour guy said benin kingdom is a recongnised institution in the world....
The way they planned themselves amazed the whites they were organised if not for tribalism benin spatial planning would be taught in the entire country ...which is only taught in university of benin same as egypt africans are beginning to speak out the real Egyptians were blacks not white and they made civilization to the world

But the question you should be asking is why did african civilization stop especially that of edo which is recent...only that we can find ourselves
Logging to the past to feel pride while our present is a mess is rubbish is like a drunkard telling he was once rich

Moorish:
Let us meet then

I would gladly love this meeting

Do not b.itch out

What da Bleep....youre an uncivilized animal

Philosophers of olds argued all through out thier lives even to point thier lives where a stake they never fought because of argument....the argued for life and truth thats why u can leave on earth now....
If you want to pass ur information speak it ...as long as you're saying its the truth it wont be difficult to reveal itself out ....unlike lf youre lying
So why call a nigg to fight over it ...if u aint a black monkey this is how we africans disgrace ourselves outside the shores of africa especially nigerians am ashamed of you....
People die protecting the truth ...while u wanna fight protecting what we hvnt confirmed its truth...by the time you go fight with him he kills you you're stupid arguments ends there...be wise yorubas

davidnazee:
Keep deceiving yourself. That is how you deceive gullible blacks instead of helping them face and overcome everyday struggles facing them your lies leave them in self loathing and hating the rest of the world.
If I catch you I will sacrifice you to the gods.

For once i agree with you on something....

Now do u see d way u go against and the obalufun guy wants to even doubt ure an african or deluded

jmoore:
The problems with most Africans is that they hardly accept responsibility. They always look for who to blame for their own misfortune.
Invention of machines may have ended international slave trade. But white people were never the ones that started slave trade. Africans were already selling themselves.
They bought what you offered them. And Nigeria was a hub because that's what Nigeria could offer in large quantity.
Nigeria/Benin Republic- Slave coast (source of slaves)
Cote d'ivoire -Ivory coast (source of ivory)
Ghana- Gold coast (source of gold)

. Thanks bro well said africans like blaming people and not themselves anything done towards a particular african is seen as racism ...the white dont fucking care if africans are blaming them for thier misfortunes they are doing thier best to make heaven on earth in thier places while africans are busy using 5000yrs to cry slavery .....

Many reasons made british abolished slavery not because africans spoke but because they had a goods system of government who considers humanity before anything same people who van protect animals will do more for his fellow humans tooi still have that believes africans didnt need liberation from colonization early

Moorish:
You suffer from self hate

and

you are in love with your slave master

there is a lot you do not know/understand

I can't begin to teach you, there is not enough time

but keep doing what you do; perhaps the truth will descend on you one day

The truth is africans still see themselves as slaves to the whitemen i would never use the world slave master to a black because he was never a slave he was weak and could be strong if he decides to

Obalufon:
Yes your forefathers were involved in human sacrifice and cannibalism in your little jungle village but don't generalize it to all Africa we are different... Look your nasty mouth boastfully said British colonized China you are out this world..

Yea they did so ur fathers bloody lier ....


Lol have u been to the fore walls of any school


The richest wealth is wisdon and you need some

Obalufon:
Yes your forefathers were naked running around in the forest but not us the Yorubas. Is your people that are curse not all Africa..

Ur fathers were unclad bloody lier malaria killed so many of them the yoruba race will always be remebered as a slave race and a ritualistic state

U wanna prove to me ur fathers were clothed theb show me prove ...what was onni wearing originally before the crown and its regalia

Benins could be proven they were clothed as well as the fulanis

Because i say africans are caused then you direct it away from yourself ....there is a parable that says dont call a witch a witch even if she is a witch

Moorish:
The white man made us hate ourselves

The whitemen never did anything wrong africans decided to hate themselves. we never had the cordial relationship within ourselves before the British came but europeans did overtime they had the cordial relationship within themselves what happens in a particular European countries spread over the entire Europe but africans were different no cordial relationship overtime no single soul in africa wonder nd explore the seas to other african countries what happened in edo remains in edo no relationship btw Nigerians nd other African contries overtime we isolated ourselves from ourselves thanks to white who brought africans out of the shadows of themselves i wondered when egypt was at its peaks then other african country didn't hear of it to go learn from them but the Europeans did and impacted on the entire Europe but africans never
Even presently there is no cordial relationship btwn west africans nd north africans...so were is the love going to come. Morrish

Why would a yoruba lie oduduwa lie aint from edo bit from sky does that not bring hate

Favor99:
They’re the ones that caused the enimity between the different ethnic groups. They are the ones that cause self hate from blacks. They created Ebola and aids.
They are the ones controlling Nigeria and other African nations. Our leaders are their puppets

Hmm...which enemity .an choosed to have enemity its in man innate attitude ....the white man never did any harm to the blacks we did harm to ourselves a whole black race was completely naked and having numerous human scarifice before the whitemen came
We had no civilazation we were using bow and arrows while they advanced from that to guns and bombs u wanna blame it on them ....blame it on your forefathers who saw religion as a means to all solution they never thought beyound it ....china Indian got same independence from britain and they are numbers is more a billion times ours but the white dont come to segrete them ....indians jas d largest religion and diverse ethnicity but we dont hear tribal segeration.... The egyptians at thier peaked looked the people around them inferior the romans looked the pple around them inferior at thier time same as greeks sames as germans Adolph hitler looked the jewish race as inferior ....everyone sees the black as inferior they are ...if i was a whiteman i would be a racist to the blacks but am not i would help them grow

The blackrace is cursed and i am going to rip it off the curse someday

Favor99:
Yes bro I would love to connect with you and meet you. We can pm each other and exchange contact. Im based in America.
Are you in Nigeria?
Yea the evil one have killed our past leaders Malcom X, Dr. Martin Luther King, Kwame Nkrumah, Patrice Lumumba

But despite the white man evils, we should still love them, we still shouldn't hate the whites. We just got to be aware of them.
What are your religious beliefs?
And we have to be patient with Yahweh, after all the Israelites were slaves for 400 years. Nigeria has been under problems for just 30 years. We have to be patient, positive, loving, obeying Yahweh's commands, being Christians, abstaining from evil/hate, being hard-working, optimistic etc
we do all these things, everything will work out in our favor and success is ours. This will lead to us developing all the necessary things to run the nation.
When we do good and follow Yeshauh(Jesus), everything will fall in place

Nigga leave the white alone and come build africa....africans are suffering youre blaming the white ...africans are killing africans you blaming the white ...africans has made themselves backward u blame the white for it...
If you come and build africans and all africans from all over the world come back home is it bad?/

African and asians had a sore on thier bodies caused by the europeans the asians did everything to heal the sore but africans are peeling thier sore everyday and blaming it on the persons who caused the sore....

prolog2:
What you are doing is pointless, we all know you are Igbo. Even the way you talk betrays you. You know nothing about the Edo, crowl back to your Igbo identity and stop foolishly pretending to be Edo. Whatever you are selling, we are not buying, now get lost.

Anything that suit you....

davidnazee:
This your analysis is very funny lol.
How can u call Anioma “lost tribe of igbos” when they are just some few kilometres away from eastern Igbo land? How are they lost when they can see each other?
Do you know history of itsekiris? How they came about? Please go read history of itsekiris you will find out they were never Yorubas. They migrated out of Edo to Yoruba areas of ilaje. Years later descendants of the migrants came back home bringing Yoruba language with them and settled in present itsekiri areas.
What do u mean by the original Edos?

The original edos are in edo state ...

I want to ask you a question why did the itsekiris migrate to illaje nd migrated bxk to thier present location

prolog2:
please try and stop posting, you are a real annoyance. You are the only person claiming to be Edo who keeps posting contradictory stuff, and contrary to what you think, you are not being smart at all. Try and stop going against every single Edo and stop accusing other Edo of being "tribalistic".

Hmmm those who study history blindly
Am a pure edo as ure both parebts are benins ...
I have travelled to few places in edo and i can spot an esan man from auchi ...

My logical thinking cant be hindered by my tribe nd my religion.... Never so if ure blaming me for my comment it shld be me ....
As the matter of fact other edos are tribalistic to benins so as benins to other edos ..

Can nigeria not take first in something for once ...hmmm always last in everything of the country is bad it should be number one ....


Some countries would not just nigerians take first even in bad things

U mean she died in another country and those country couldnt do anything to save her....niger republic must be blamed for this

Favor99:
Yea the Yorubas having been some sort false superiority complexes on this thread and on nairaland in general. Calling people peasants and mongrels in every post.
The Yorubas on this thread like many Nigerians on nairaland are tribalistic and quite ridiculous if you ask me.
I don’t understand why someone can repeatedly insult and put down another group of people without any sort of provocation.
But their not our enemies. There are groups and entire races of people millions and millions and millions of times worse than that.
Those are the people we should be careful of. Not senseless tribalism and banter on nairaland.
There entire groups of very wicked evil people that so detest us Africans and oppress and exploit us.
These people have a sick obsession with oppression and marginalizing the African race.

These people originate from Caucasus mountain.
Europeans and people of that extraction are our real problems not our fellow African

Are u blaming the white for african failure ......i guess we are really a monkey the white can blame the blacks for thier development

Wven if there is a slightest reason to blame them it should be that reason that should provoke our development.... Camerrons killing themselves for language difference you still wanna blame the white.....
The whiteman do everything not to live in anarchy's not to be like africans but we do our best to live worst than animals .....fellow whitemen died to liberate the blacks in america ...as an edo man died to liberate yorubas for anything ?

davidnazee:
History of itsekiris origin says that itsekiris were originally Edos who migrated to Yoruba areas of ilaje.. Over the years offsprings of those migrants decided to come back home which they eventually did and settled in the present locations.
So you cannot call them Yorubas in the past.

Stop been dogmatic and try reasoning out of prejudice and false information ....the truth is that
The original edos werent much in pre history times and they didnt spread thier languages to build up populations like the igbos ,yorubas and hausas....even uptill date benins dont speak thier language offshores or to strangers......
Benins in pre colonial times migrated in few to established places like ,lagos,warri,itsekere etc they only occpied thier royal stool and they ruled the indigenous people there ...just the same way oduduwa migrated and ruled ife is the same way benin migrated to itsekeri and ruled them ....this is why the names didnt sound like an edo name compare to places in edo like eshan,uromi you could read a meaning to this names....
Itsekiris i belueve were yorubas who got influenced by edos ....
For god sake did you know how mny yorubas slaves they took and they are still way more than the entire edos ...they are way more more than us itsekiris is a lost tribe of the yorubas,aniomas are the lost tribe of igbos as a matter of fact benin had records which note they were different from the indigenous people they ruled ...sime of this indigenous people where used by sacrifice by the edos.... Britain influenced nigerians but we aint British...

BabaRamota1980:
How did you measure greater in the picture?

Tell me your idea of greater from this picture. When i say you descend from the dimwit Owodo you will get upset but you are exhibiting genes that only Owodo would display.

Show me the dimensions of greater in the picture.

Why do u blind ur eyes with tribalism u cant see anymore
The Benin says “because u dont want to see you enemies you blind your eyes which eyes would you use to see your friends”

See u dont wanna see here is the difference
Oba of benin is sitting in a stool bigger than the itsekere king in size this is purely evidence of who is superior while the onni his sitting at the stool of a chief or subject and far distanced from the oba......in.past times itsekeres where yorubas but benin came and rule them this is how benin ruled down to ife....


Osagangan is an edo name and he ruled in ife oduduwa is an edo name same as ogun ....

The yorubsd get osagangan as their past onni edp always dominating long live oba of benin whereever is descendant goe to he establish a kingdom ....his son went to ife nd established a stool,he went to itsekeri nd established a stool

What am emperor

Umugun gha to kpere isee...

Great uniben

Obalufon:
god of the sea olokun.. are you people closer to the sea..Ogun deity of iron. ..What is the difference between Olokun and Olosa ...go and meet your high priest he will enlighten you more

Mhen ure born to be stupid....i cnt take it anymore
U lie for every little thing ...god ure born lier i wonder how your families coupe with u

Sijo01:
No sir.

Ok what skul

Sijo01:
First female V.President. The marginalization nor be here o. Here in the south, that's a position reserved for the females. Uniben already had her first female president.

Do u skul in uniben

Favor99:
I don’t know the origin. What I do know is that we can’t let topics like this divide us and derail our relationship. Yorubas and Edo have been debating this for years. The debate used to be respectful, but now it’s turning into all out tribal bashing.

Unity is more important. We need to just settle this, that of course Edos are going to believe that Yorubas originated from them, and Yorubas are going to believe we Edos originated from them.

We don’t have written history so it’s just one of those things we will have to leave to science to figure out. For now it’s just he say she say. And that’s what we should leave it as and move on.

We have a country and people to build. Let’s stop this ethnic bashing and e-wars, things like this kill national pride

Nigga ure peddling the issue here be bold ...to say ur mind this is why nigeria is like this we all scared to say our minds ..you want this thread to end then make it end if u dont know the history go start from page 1 of this thread it will guide you to know who is right or wrong ....ure a scientist and philosopher here now....
Nevertheless even if we had written record is not all things we would have put on books such as this....even if we did put it on books like you said our counterpart would still deniel it by thier false stories ...benins had a documented method which they keep records of event but never bothered keeping oduduwas because he didnt play much relevance in edo untill he was requsted back....... And again who said we are fighting we are nit we are just arguing for the truth if you have been on this thread since you probably find the truth no coming here to tell us to end our research..... That is been a lazy youth....
Pls go do research and tell me the stories which seems logical if i was a yorubaman and edo seem right i would wholeheartedly say it to my yorubas counterpart that's is been truthful

Favor99:
I haven’t been or read the comments on this thread for almost 2 weeks. Didn’t care much for the level of disgusting tribalism on here.

But both sides, let’s put our differences aside. This fight is unnecessary and it’s not intelligent of us to be fighting each other. Instead let’s uplift each other up, respect each other’s cultures and unite.

Our ancestors got along and lived and respected one anothers tribe

Ever since the coming of the Europeans and their divide and rule tactics we’ve had animosity with each other.

We shouldn’t fight one another. We’re Nigerians, we’re Africans, we’re black

If you go to church and your a Christian then practice what your pastor preaches to you and spread love and unity and bonding.

Be optimistic and positive and show love to your brother regardless of tribe

Hmm u could simply end this thread for me by telling me the story that suit oduduwas origin benin or yorubas

banku:
The problem with Bini peasants is that they lack knowledge and totally ignorant of Yoruba history. They only make up and fabricate stories day by day.

Now they want me to teach them about Sugbon Eredo that existed before Oba you begged for from Ife civilized you.

Another Yoruba dynasty older than Bini is the mountain in Ile-Oluji where mountain was caved into tall building before Europeans built stairs.

Research is easier these days my friends.

Banku u have joined your brothers in the lies

Eredo that was formed not recently by this present ooni ....nevertheless i wanna see all the proves you all talks about even the so called chain oduduwa used in comming from sky...

But are you aware your brothers having been lieing about ogendegbe that he came to benin fir conquering nd benins begged not to

Are you aware ile ife had no name untill oduduwa named it ile ni fe ( i ran to success) corrupted to ile ife (land of love)

Are you aware the ada and eben is older then ife art as whole which dates back during the ogiso era


Are you aware when the europeans are talking of african kingdoms ife or oyo kingdom is never mentioned untill when linked to benin issue

Are you aware benin were way more organised than oyo kingdoms ...we had symbol of authority, flags,guild's, moat walls

Lastly are you aware youre a benin descendant

prolog2:
the Yorba of ife have no art work, please don't confuse excavation with actual fourniture decorating a palace. Edo artwork was stolen from Oba palace whereas "ife artwork" was excavated and nothing indicates that it belongs to the people who were living in ife when the excavation took place. It is more likely that it is a remnant of Benin empire. If the yorubad had artwork, then it would have been found by the brits without recourse to excavating .

That could be very true my brother .....very very true
If it was an art to show relevance why werw the excavated why weren't they kept scared like other art works ....it could be it was made by different people but got lost while travelling through ife ....they werent even found in oonis courtyard and do we have pple that made those art like seen in the benins