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TAO11:
But what’s his point even if it is true that some Binis were refugees in a Yoruba street?

Benin refugees ha, bring me the source that say so she_male

A tribe that their ancestors were hostorical cowards to their fellow neighboring tribe, and a puppet to the whitemen

A tribe who sold herself to slavetrade and yet today they are happy their language is going to be made official in the lands they sold their brothers to

Same tribe sokd their lands to foreigners who had different skin colors and dashed out their artworks for a bottle of aromantic schnapps


Some how beyond all these shame written all over their history they know no shame, reproach


They have sort to rewrite a better history for their ancestor but its already too late

Balogunodua:
Show me the source....

I don't need screenshots.....

Go search for it, atleast it is not a Benin that composed nor your scared whitemen

Balogunodua:
Just watch him denie it....

He come back to tell us how Benin army with their 5million well trained Expendable Commando force brutally defeated the Ijebu and install Akarigbo has king out of pity....

Benis decided not to remove the Akarigbo but used him as a puppet against his people

Balogunodua:
Screenshot written by who? From which source.... Benin rule Ijebu joke of the century...

By your fellow yoruba brother's

Balogunodua:
Prove it...

Humble ko scramble ni.....

Shinnyseki you again

Nawa just 2yrs

Bleep

When you guys are trying to tie your destiny to north and yet they reject you, you fall back to the south for help they see as north and reject you and now you guys are stock

Instead you guys to work on yourself you still fall back to the north to further plead for doing nothing wrong..


The kogi people are for ever cursed

[quote author=TAO11 post=96695821]I have uploaded the attachment as promised.

Check them out.[/quote

Monitoring spirit

Obsession will not have you ijn


Obsessed freak

Chaii

You need help,

I sent for research rather you hid as a quest snd started monitoring me, no wonder you couldn't present anything after your sudden appearance

TAO11:
Some of the key reasons why I stopped giving him attention are:

(1) I was able to pass my message across and convince every culture-active Nairalander that he is my rag. [See first and second attachment for an example].

(2) He himself admitted that he is my rag, and that he is an empty-headed dullard. Yes, he admitted it. [See third attachment for an example].

I thought i sent you into oblivion how come you were present in that thread doing monitoring spirit on me, ooh Bleep you she-male was viewing as guest
Shame on you,
Obsession would not end you,

Even in your absent you still followed me to ibo threads

Obessed lady sometimes i believe you get sexual pleasure debating bini males


I exoect your brothers to cry for you for this my comment

Balogunodua:
Economic power how

Benin had the political monopoly the ijebu men traded in and collected taxes from their sales


The military weak ijebu couldn't give the binis the treatment we gave to the awori because benin military power would humble them

Balogunodua:
Same account says it difficult to evaluate...

How can you claim ruling over some without prove...

Do yorubas look at prove you making me laugh in the face or proves yorubas wi hijack myth


We ruled the ijebus,

Check d screenshot

TAO11:
I knew you were a dullard, but what I didn’t know is that it was this bad.

It is not a “paper“ like I said earlier. Again it is a “book”. Binis need to understand the difference between these two.

Also, I cited the book and the reference already when I said: H. Ling Roth, (1903), preface. Why did you think I was the cause of your ancestrally low IQ?

And the quotation (as Roth made clear in the same preface) is from the notes of Cyril Punch — a traveller around the Yoruba country and Benin in the late 1880s & early1890s

By the way, I am only responding to disgrace you further. Do not feel dignified at all by my noble responses.

See an obsessed dementia lady throwing shades

Lol are you aware you're a she-male a benin obsessed shame who lies through her teeth

Balogunodua:
Same account says it difficult to evaluate...

How can you claim ruling over some without prove...

Yes i agree with that the bini people account was probably economic powers over the Ijebus

tollyboy5:
Shatter wetin? The Benin never cross their boundaries with ijebus. I'm very sure they've been hearing stories about them for long.
They should have tried their luck then maybe by now we'll have areas like ijebu-edo
So I don't know who is stronger. All I'm saying that ijebu clan was large enough and we don't need anyone to force us to know that were one.
Benin was busying conquering smaller kingdom and expanding territories but we remain ijebus and expanded our settlement. Hope your noting the difference BT the two bah?
Ijebu is know not to have been under the Oyo empire. Oyo empire was popularly know for stopping the expansion of usman-danfodio jihad . if not we'll have Igbo Muslim today.

If you're not satisfied with these I'll ask you to go tell oba of Benin to send Benin warriors down to to ijebu let test something
Our closest brother the egba people will be the one to stop the Benin warriors while ijebus will be doing their normal partying and flexing.

You saw the Europeans writeups and your mouth is still running like dat tap

You saw samuel johson writeup but your mouth is still running faster than a running tap

You will be humbled bro


Your ijebu was compared to a avillage


The same ijebu who traded on benin river and accepted benin laws governing the trade

Why didnt the strong ijebu send soldiers to benin river to remove benin influence on its trade like the benins did to the aworis


Your pride is learning when it comes to mine so humble yourself and put your ijebu scattered clan
Below the benin empire

Instead of giving it an undeserved overrated claims

davidmarker:
You still haven't provided access to the paper which you claim to quote. There is no possiblity to discuss a paper which nobody except you can see. For all I know, the paper might not even exist, or the quote might not be from the paper... Like the crook you are, you quote papers which you do not provide.
Also, once your claim is defeated like usual you modify your claim and put something additional on it.
Now you are not only quoting a hypothetical paper, but also saying the paper is quoting an even more hypothetical paper...
You guys really like fairytales.
The guy who took that photo of the ancestral shrine in the King's compound in Benin city (1891) was admiratif of Benin city enough to take the photo, whereas I am yet to see a photo (of that period) which that guy took of ibadan or any crappy néo-yoruba village. Your fabrications can only work with incredibly stupid people.

Intelligent people like me shouldn't be allowed to waste time talking to retards.

Lol, retard is her name didnt you noticed she stopped mentioning me, because am found of sending her into oblivion for her lies

And when she tries to lie i follow bumber to bumper and discredit it

She claimed ife made those artworks, i asked her
To prove it till this day i have never seen her back

Balogunodua:
Migration indeed...
Painment.....

I dont even know what you're contributing in all this debate


What of your first account why did you drop it, in that first account you were more sensible and tried to contribute this new account you look miserable and useless

I could identity you with foolish questions you always ask


What does the name oba mean in benin

The most foolish question ever, you're just empty
Headed thats why you keep asking such question

Funny dude

Your nickname is shinnyseki

Mugu

tollyboy5:
[s]As you can see the statement has to be treated with reserve[/s]. It was an exaggeration rather than political fact bro according to your post.
Ill repeat myself. We have no records of Benin in ijebu land. Strong nation mostly trample of softer ones.
I came to know about ijebu British war and some other fact, when I noticed my grandparent don't refer themselves as Lagos, instead they say their ijebus. Ijebu are good preservers of history thats why some surname in Nigeria are only attached to ijebu race.
For this kind of preservation of long ancestral surname I belief our history should be carefully searched and I'm going to do that very soon.

So i should belive you, that ijebu military was stronger than bini or could be matched because you said it


We should disprove a European account who had observed things by themselves than you who ia typing from lagos


Drop you self ego before i shatter them

tollyboy5:
I've not read the Samuel Johnson account , but I know ijebu were rumoured to be popular with human sacrifies.
But I've not seen evidence of that. All the ijebu history the ijebus themselves know has nothing to do with Benin.
Its like you don't know how large ijebu people are?
Down to lekki, Victoria island, going down to Lagos Ibadan express way then their bothers with ondo state , even some ijebus fall under ondo state. Down to osun state, ijebu-ijesha . we are not talking about a small society bro.
The ijebu clan is far larger than the Benin.
Though I can't say of Benin empire.
No one has ever brought the ijebus under their power.
After the British conquered awujale a treaty was signed.
If ijebus be the biblical jebus then from ancient time there has never been a total conquerer of the ijebu clan.
Because the jebus still lived in their land and practice their pagan lifestyle. They knew themselves as jebus despite the change to Jerusalem .
Just the way ijebus maintain their status despite division by colonialism.

All this striking similarities are not coincidence. Apart from the pagan practice of the jebus I'll like to do research on their ancient practice. I've seen some tablet but I don't have that time now.
I created this thread to know if others did their findings but it seems people here are just after chest beating not research actually

Lol, you're making up myth bro were all this ijebu in this various areas ruled by a sovereign king

Or they ruled themselves individually

tollyboy5:
Lol are blind to read that today Lagos land is larger than it was?
The other land added to Lagos has nothing to do with Benin.
If I should go by the geographical settlement , the ijebu-epe people has been on their land occupying eti-osa before the aworis came.
It was later ijebu land became part of Lagos state.
We don't know who is Benin or what is Benin. Only aworis know what they have in common with Benin.
We remain proud ijebu people

You Claim ijebu military power with benin


Now isago is a kindom benin had waged war with and subdued, and isago in European account seems to be military stronger than smaller kingdom of ijebu


Lets start saying truth and not myth

tollyboy5:
By the way who is Samuel jonshon ?
I'm not just talking about random historian. These are ijebu natives telling their stories. If you can't pick some little oral words from natives don't compile rubbish!

Samuel johnson is a retard but they are some truth it could be saying do youany evidence of ijebu describing their origin pre1900

Samuel johson never claim benin as origin of the ijebu clan but rather how the name was gotten and and they way he wrote it was more like he got the fact from an ijebu or a benin informants

So waiting for your evidence

tollyboy5:
For you to understand better . I'm not from Lagos I'm from epe. Im ijebu-epe Lagos is a political name.
If I'll provide you some evidence. If you don't have counter evidence against the biblical jebus don't tell me story.
Ijebu never brought epe to Lagos. British named ijebu land which is epe as a province of Lagos.
Go and check how epe became Lagos before spewing what you don't know.
Is it because benin kingdom was popular you think there was no ijebu kingdom

Anyway

tollyboy5:
[s]Ijebu fought the British . they saw the British invasion as danger to the ijebu culture. Ijebu were known to be fetish.
After defeating the ijebu army and thousands of life were lost they brought Epe under lagos province The new Lagos later included badagry epe and ikorodu. Some part of Ogun state was later added.
You're the first person to spam this group and divert attension.
I was trying to link ijebu with the jebus in the bible who according to the bible were punished for unrepentant pagan lifestyle[/s]

You have started in myth tracing ijebu to the bible

And an ijebu war with the britsh please provide a European document to this


Again how did the Ijebu bring epe into lagos


Bro dont get me angry here


Samuel johnson wrote the world was gotten from bini using them as sacrificial lamb

You should know who you're dealing with bro i dont just accept what people say because they say it

TAO11:
In reply to your long epistle of CRAP!, see link:

https://www.nairaland.com/6234931/why-ikwerres-not-igbo-logic/33#96641344

However, the point of my comment here which you’ve failed to cover-up is that:

The Ga people of Ghana are from Ife.

Says who? Says Ga King.

Stop lying for relevance.

Mr small tribe syndrome.

Cheers!

Lol see what you're proud of acclaiming population, lol, we benins acclaim to conquest of an area, the yorubas acclaim migration and population, i keep telling people Tao11 is sick in the head probably all yorubas


The same Tao11 who boasted they gave their artworks willing for a thank you gift for colonizing them and not forcefully like binis, that very day, i wept like jesus did

I have never seen an inferiority complex of such magnitudes, obsession is really a disease, it eat every part of self reasoning

tollyboy5:
Boss. People cant just come and start debating like that now .
Everybody needs time. Me myself I have a lot on my desk. And tao with others will be up to something or another .

Ok, any prove you find bring it here, we will debate it

Balogunodua:
Nobody is forcing Ile-Ife origin on anyone..and not all Yorubas are from Ife but Ife unites us and I don't see any Yoruba complaining.. me myself an Okun guy don't see anything wrong with it.

And as for the Benin boys they should provide evidence that the word Oba is of Benin origin and it meaning with prove just like TOA did..

So you ancestors is not from ife, neither is Tao11
But you killl yourself and defend for a land that your ancestors known nothing about, or have any
Connections to, lol all for what to troll

tollyboy5:
Okay good. Lets us all stop this kind bending of history and try to trace truth and fact. Many area in Lagos has Benin name origin.
If Eko means war camp I'll stand by the history of Lagos I once read. The aworis were attacking the Benin traders and the oba of Benin sent his army down to Lagos. On getting there they were fully accepted by the aworis.
It just shows the aworis were not strong enough to dominate the Benin soldiers so that accepted peace treaty with the benis.
I don't want any distortion in my head for now until I do more careful findings.
The egun of badagry fought the aworis and took over badagry area. Since the benin republic are close to badagry I will accept the fact that the aworis were the ones who went to settle on the egun axis. And they decided to chase them out.

I'll contact my badagry friends from Lagos state indigene union to know what they have to say. I guess thats a better way of getting through fact not one sided story favoring one sect of people

The aworis didn't peaceful accept benin traders in thier land the oba sent warriors to eko were they had to restrain the aworis with warand the aworis lost the way you said it, makes it like therr was never a war

Anyway make me understand benin conquered the old lagos

So how come there is a new lagos was it nigeria that formed the new lagos with old lagos

tollyboy5:
The Benin are also liars , when they started expanding the Benin empire to where it did not reach. Calling oduduwa a banish prince

Nobody is ready to use their sense. I'll do my own findings

You heard my brother saying the bini conquest to epe didnt happen

And calling oduduwa a banish prince that infact is a big lie from benin, benin and ife came to have connection during the late 1800,the Oduduwa fairytales never happened but mads up

tollyboy5:
Instead of people to go after fact people are going after self exaltation and supremacy battle. Distorting history.
Both yorubas and benin are guilty of this. I see some recent claim of lordship by Benin with no concrete evidence. Though I won't disagree they controlled the old Lagos but expanding their territory to other part is what I won't accept.
Now the aspect of Yoruba historians trying to force everyone to ife origin is what I won't buy also. I read some history on Egyptian conquest and Arabian invasion. I'll be coming from that angle when I start doing my research.
Till then b4 ill create new thread

Good, so u believe every yoruba coming from is a lie too

Nice one

LegendHero:
Lol. It got to a point baba had to start begging his brethren to back down coz he knows they’ve started speaking off key.

Tao Tao the legend is really dealing with you Benin guys like it’s some sort of war.

Tao carried an armored tank to a fight of machetes.

The mouth of a coward is like a two head sword
If talk could win wars i bet the yorubas would have made history in the past instead of stealing one today

Jogunomi1:
I hope soft drinks are not contributing to her tummy size. She takes soft drinks anytime she eats and won't eat if those drinks are not available.

Tell her to stop are soft drinks i notice soft drinks contribute to body weight gain if taken with food while esting.... Tell her to stop it,while eating


Taken soft drink regularly is unwise and dangerous try help your wife from future diabetes biko

And plan to start seeing her attractive like that ooh it is one of the curse of a woman shape loss and weight gain after delivery


It is not easy bro