₦airaland Forum

geosegun:
You are such a dunce for going this low. @TAO11, has destroyed every iota of dignity you have left and hence you resulted to casting aspersions. You are definitely not worthy of the attention.given to you.

davidmarker:
There has never been any excavation at the Oba of Benin's palace.
All Benin bronzes which are now in museuls in europe and america were the furniture of the Oba of Benin. So whomever is peddling a "sculpture of ooni of ife excavated in Benin palace" is a bloody liar. The only excavations in Benin city which I am aware of were about the walls.
Suzanne Prester Blier is one big idiot who seems to just print whater the yoruba telle her as fact.

Notice that the name of whomever is supposed to have "found" it is ommited, also the date it is supposed to have been found is ommited...
That woman is an idiot.

OmoOlofin:
https://www.nairaland.com/6234931/why-ikwerres-not-igbo-logic/33#96641344

TAO11:
Hahaha! Denial mode has been activated full-blown in Benin Kingdom. I’m so excited this is happening in my time and age while I’m alive.

Read from the link below to notice how the heavy wind blew open the fowl’s yn-ansh:

https://www.nairaland.com/6234931/why-ikwerres-not-igbo-logic/15#96513655

Moreover, although you clearly have no iota of clue as per what you intend on “Yoruba”, aka “Yarriba” (in Arab and Hausa pronunciation), and aka “Youriba” (in European pronunciation); aren’t you aware that the actual baptizing took place early in your history when an Ife prince named an entire ethno-linguistic sub-group into the name they’ve clung to till date as a people: Ubinu — Ibinu — Ibini — Bini — Beny — Benin.

More than that, didn’t the same Yorubas march into your Benin Kingdom and maimed and slave-raided without any restraint?

Yes, they did and this should remind you of the exploits of the Yoruba military commander Aje (from Ibadan).

Notice that unlike your Benin accounts of alleged exploits, this account comes from your own people themselves as documented by the late R.E. Bradbury during his ethnographic field work among the Binis and Edo-speaking peoples.

Lastly, one key thing which is very perceptible and very consistent in your comments (apart from blatant lies) is your sheer jealousy for Yoruba people’s education.

It drives you insane and you couldn’t even hide it. But Yorubas for sure aren’t the source of your illiteracy — you should always be reminded of that.

cc: babtoundey

Balogunodua:
Hahahaha.......

Now it's kingpin not shining Seki again

TAO11:
The first lines sound like he was crying as he typed. Hahaha!

This AreaDullard has started yarning pox as usual oo.

Adeyemi Ko, Oriyomi ni. I guess your Adeyemi time-travelled back into 1845 to scribble it in written records of Yoruba history.

You think you’re among your fellow Edo dullards where you can tell a ridiculous lie and get rounds of applause.

Oga Dullard, what is “Oba” in your Bini language.

cc: babtoundey
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And by the way as a Yoruba word, “Ọba” simply and literally means: “King”, “Monarch”,, “Ruler”, “Ovelord”, etc. [We have Yoruba-English Lexicons to back that up in case you’re interested].

What else must I do at this point than to laugh and rejoice at your illiteracy?

Your foolish remark sounds like saying: English people borrowed the word “king” from Benin people. Hahaha!

Anyways click the link below, read and gush out some more tears:

https://www.nairaland.com/6234931/why-ikwerres-not-igbo-logic/15#96513655

Balogunodua:
Lolzzz... she is crying Ke.. when you guyz are the ones having sleepless night

Balogunodua:
Upon all this trash you still can't prove anything.. until you tell me the meaning of Oba in Edo language then I will take you serious Mr. Goal cahnger....

TAO11:
This is in reply to the dummy who just quoted you above.

He seems to have just admitted from his own personal evidence that Benin kingdom was under the Great Empire during the reign of Alaafin Ojigi.

More so, Ojigi was clearly called ”king” in this account. So, what was the dumb point he was making again?

Whoever that dullard was, thank you for sharing your evidence with us to prove that Benin kingdom was under the Great Oyo Empire.

RedboneSmith:
Chillax. I'll post three entire versions, free of ambiguity. There was a war with Benin in the time of Osemwede (called Osomadi in Asaba traditions). Asaba people fled and later returned to their land, after the army of Benin left (I'll post this too, if I find it.) This whole talk about migrating from sovereignty, etc etc, due to wars, etc...sounds like an allusion to that war in Osemwede's time than to any claim on the part of Asaba to have been of Benin descent.

Northern Nigerians still retain Arabic words, phrases and habits in 2020. Means very little.

tollyboy5:
Lol this is why true ijebu will always be ijebu. I've seen the very difference from us and the rest of the Yoruba race. Our achievement and way of life.

I don't need you to tell me more about myself. You may be vast in what you know but you can't tell me who I am.
I know your type of people. You won't hesitate to bend history if it don't favor you.
I just said some serious issues and you're here talking joke.
Its just like the way some yeye people call me ipob because of I don't support tinubu. These set of people are delusional thinking they're are fighting for the Yoruba cause.
In real life many ijebu will be quick to let you know that their ijebus.
Immediately people will start tagging them ijebu man. Its common for Yorubas to tagged ijebus with negative stuff.
I use to avoid making myself known as ijebu in the past and prefer someone calling me omo-epe
Not until I noticed we've been the most influential Yoruba ethnic group in present day Nigeria.
Many ijebus only know their history as yorubas thanks to the awujale and other ijebus that decide to dig deep to know our history. I will let you and your remaining historian that decide to turn blind eye to facts continue with your agenda.
If you like call me whatever you like.
That doesn't change the fact that I'm from awujale lineage.
You people should be compiling history and add little lies to it . we will do our own research and publish our own findings.
Ijebu history is already in the internet for you to see.
I remember my sister told me they thought her in lasu in history and international relation dept that epe people were descendant of aworis.
Since then I knew historians can't know more than the natives in actual sense.

My family history is told by word but more accurate than what some historians might want to compile.
End of thread!

gomojam:
Have you now seen what we've been pointing out? The impostor is trying to sow a seed of discord among us. I have always wondered why they like choosing Ijebu for such agenda. What's your opinion.

tollyboy5:
Just because Benin conquered a small ancient Lagos you want to change history with picture
You must be joking

Explain to me how does a conquered settlement mean no one was there?
By the way it was a tiny portion of the the present Lagos that was under the Benin kingdom. The dahomy and ijebu don't have anything to do with Benin and they're part of the present day Lagos state so what are you trying to prove?

Is it because our ijebu war lords decided not to interfere in the Benin business thats why we did not conquered the ancient Lagos.
Our clan is to large and we all speak one ijebu dialect so we're powerful self sufficient enough. Go ask your grand parents

JohnSin97:
The general public should note that tollyboy5 is a ret@rded imposter from Igbo land claiming to be ijebu, ignore the brainlet and his stupid agenda.

gregyboy is another stupid ret@rded impostor claiming to be edo but peddling stupid falsehood around... the bastard is Igbo, an Ipob specie to be precise.

It's pathetic that ipobs out of desperation and inferiority complex have decided to go around peddling falsehood about the Yoruba culture all while their culture gradually goes into extinction... totally pathetic and disgraceful
Kindly avoid their stupidity.

LeoThaGreat:
Before Oduduwa came to Ilè Ifè from Oke-Ogun, there were 13 autonomous villages in Ifè all headed by Obas, e.g. Obatala, Obalufon, etc.

The first Oba of Bini was Oranyan, a descendant of Oo'dua, before Oranmiyan, Bini was governed by the Ogiso.

The above logically proves that the titling of the position of an Oba in Yorubaland predates that of Bini

The position 'Oba' is a pure Yòrùbá word. It's direct translation should be Governor or Controller/Administrator.

O = The one/person that does something (a continuous tense)
Ba = Perch or Control

I just have to drop this comment before history gets distorted as usual.

The full position is called Oba T'ó Ba L'órí Ohun Gbogbo = The Controller that governs all things.

Then the position has titles. E.g The Controller of Oyo is referred to as Alaafin (Alaafin l'oruko oba ilu Oyo).
Alaafin = Title
Oba = Position



Bye y'all!

davidmarker:
The yoruba whom are aware of the fact the truth about their passed has been revealed in this thread are actively spamming it in order to flood the true information I and other Edo people provided. yoruba don't like the truth, nor do they like logics, those are their two biggest enemies.
Gregyboy, as I told you this debate ended years ago, but ofcourse the yoruba would just spam the thread and repeat nonsensical statements to oblivion. This is one of the reasons I often delete my accounts. I don't want to waste too much time doing over and over a thing which I have already finished.
Proving over and over the same thing.
Some people with low brain activity wouldn't understand. When I chose to not reply, it is because I have spotted a non ending cycle.

Balogunodua:
Hope you guyz will be able to sleep this night .. you rest and accept defeat before you get heart and brain problem

Alba3:
These is the problem with Bini revisionists that believe their own history began with European documentation; What a pity!

Can't you Google who Obatala is before you start saying he and others are rubbish? I'm not going to insult you and your for fathers...

I'm just asking you since you understand Yoruba language more than us to tell us Yoruba's word for king or ruler since every African group has a word for such.

To help you:

Noun: Oba = king

or adjective(as in Oba awọn Ẹiyẹ, Eranko, Eniyan, etc)

Verb: Ba = reign (to reign, rule)

Clause: to/ti o ba ( to be in charge, etc)

Tell us Yoruba's word for king oga if the above is Bini and stop repeating lies and what you don't understand. TAO11 already gave earlier documentation of Oba in Yoruba even if you don't believe in oral tradition but Italy...

Go to Oba palace and ask if whether he's great grandchild of Oranmiyan of Ìfẹ. He will be in a better place to educate you not me

Balogunodua:
The question is... .what is the meaning of Oba in Edo language?

Juliusmalema:
Well it means... more like Kings Wealth,or should I say king of kings..

Juliusmalema:
Established Indeed.

You established them and fall back immediately to 5 local government areas. and encouraging yourself with fairy tales.

I corrected your revisionist theory...Obaze is an Igbo name and has nothing to do with Bini.

If you left igbo out then why smuggling igbo name to your submission...that's what I corrected.

We must never allow any fictitious Bini -Igbo historical fabrications to breathe.

Mbanu..

Alba3:
Your Bini was one of zones of British created unfortunately majority of you didn't fix in except your ruling class who shared blood with Ìfẹ.

Thank God, I've been able to bring you back here after TAO11's hammering with facts.

samuk:
Agbor people of Delta state bears Obaze.

Since Yoruba centered their relationship with Benin around Ife, most part of our debate should be centred around Benin/Ife relationship because most other parts of Yoruba were under Benin colonial rule.

Let's the true Ife people come out to defend the Benin/Ife relationship, not descendants of former Benin colonial subjects or descendants of slaves that were returned back to Nigeria by the white man.

You will hardly find an Ife indigine on these thread because the Ife they are defending here was created on paper and have nothing to do with reality.

tollyboy5:
You don't even know what to say .
It seen you just need money bah?

tollyboy5:
You'll end up disgracing yourself bro. You can't know me more than I know myself

tollyboy5:
Link of a confuse dude that don't know meaning of some Yoruba cities is the evidence Benin ruled Lagos? Including ijebu people?

Weed is not good for your health bro