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Dartilo:
Oyenwen se eko evbi nu wa vbu na
Iwa gho gho yo WO owa

Tu wa GHA ma
Tu wa GHA tor

Ise, ke wu we,

De ghe na we ukwu ewere vbe edo,

Afix edate yor ne ha,

LukasPodolski:
This is incoherent and full of lies..

Which lies, lol spot one of the lies

lastempero:
Pig i know u are one of them,no reply me b4 u go turn to slowpoke.

Uzwor,


Which state are you

valirex:
Emwanta nọ, sokpan ẹmwin nọ de secret like emwin ni gbẹn nokiekie ọma make as wẹ translate ye 'bo

Ok e understand laoor egwi ni na translate ehe,


Igwa gben do rheror

I dont no how to write edo but pardon my spellings

We can use voice note to speak here and teach ourselves

If need be

I speak bini in d open with non bini, wen i speak dey say ehnn what did u say then i interprete

Some of them gradually begin to grap d words,

Ama ewomwen, tor weii

valirex:
Edo izẹ ima zebo, as utama evboya no re nairaland dina oma make sense

Otẹmwẹn try nu ya gbẹn 'do

Oma ma na ale zedo, azeladin newan noma enedo niyan ohen

Lets speak d language out, bini language should be a general language in edo, learnt by every edo tribe as a second language or even firsf

lastempero:
Eiye
Ayes
Maphites
Baggers na edo natural resources i no want mention ur sisters wey don cast us here

Na mumu dey worry u, pray make u nor come dis life again come mumu



Edo state is widely and globally know for her historical hub and her artefact which have been featured on marvels movies


Edo state was created out of Midwestern state August 1991

Edostate is the third largest state by landmass in southern part of nigeria nigeria after oyo and calabar

Edo state was the first state to grant free education from basic level to secondary school awolowo was not the first, it was ambrose ali who did it first

Edo state was the first state to start the endsars protest in nigeria after the video surfaced at ugheli, they took the first protest to ringroad and then to the oba palace before other state followed suit Edo odion(edo is the first)



Edo is the educational hub in nigeria
Uniben, used to be the most applied school and still among the top five most applied university in nigeria, it still hold the first in courses like medcine and law,
Ambrose Ali a state university in nigeria, is nigeria number one best in law school

Igbinedion University was the first private university in nigeria

Benson idahosa University is the first indigenous church university in nigeria
Literacy level in edo state is more than 80%

Benin city is the 6th populous city in nigeria out of 36 state

Notable people

Oba of Benin the most recognized monarch outside nigeria, the rest na chew gum


John Odigie Oyegun, First Governor of Edo state and former national chairman of the ruling APC

Godwin Obaseki, former chairman of the State's economic team and present Executive Governor of the State

Erhabor Emokpae, pioneer of modern arts in Nigeria

Admiral Mike Akhigbe, former vice president of the Federal Republic of Nigeria.
Dele Giwa, Nigerian journalist, editor and founder of Newswatch magazine.

Senator Albert Legogie, former deputy senate president in the defunct Third Republic and a pioneer member of the Board of Trustees of the Peoples Democratic Party (PDP).

Pa Michael Imoudu, labour leader and founder of the Nigeria state,

Chief Julius Momo Udochi, the first Nigerian ambassador to the United States,

Gen. George Agbazika Innih, who was one-time military governor of Bendel and Kwara State,
Major-General Abdul Rahman Mamudu Former Commander Nigerian Army Signals Corps and military administrator Gongola State,

Aigboje Aig-Imoukhuede, cofounder of Access Bank Plc and founder of Africa Initiative for Governance (AIG)

Adams Oshiomhole, past president of the Nigeria Labour Congress and former governor of Edo State; he built Edo University of Iyamoh, Edo State.

Pastor Chris Oyakhilome, founder of the Believers Loveworld Nation

Prince Tony Momoh, former Minister of Information and Culture
Maymunah Kadiri, Nigerian mental health advocate
Commander Anthony Ikhazoboh, minister of sports and transport,

Professor Ambrose Alli, former governor of the defunct Bendel State. He created the Bendel State university now named after him.
John Momoh, Nigerian broadcast journalist and CEO of Channels TV

Professor Osayuki Godwin Oshodin, former vice chancellor of University of Benin
Jacob U. Egharevba, a Bini historian and traditional chief

Dr Samuel Ogbemudia, former governor of the midwest region of Nigeria and later Bendel state
Chief Anthony Enahoro, anti-colonial and pro-democracy activist and politician

Professor Festus Iyayi, novelist and first African to win the Commonwealth Writers Prize
Odia Ofeimun, poet and former president of the Association of Nigerian Authors

Dr Abel Guobadia, educator and former Nigerian ambassador to the Republic of Korea, former Chairman Independent National Electoral Commission (INEC)

General Godwin Abbe, former Nigerian Minister for Interior and Defence
Archbishop John Edokpolo, founder of Edokpolo Grammar Schools and Political Activist
Sir Victor Uwaifo, musician

Archbishop Benson Idahosa, Pentecostal Church Leader

Sonny Okosun, musician

Augustine Eguavoen, former professional Nigerian footballer and coach
Felix Idubor, artist

Festus Ezeli, basketball player formerly with the Golden State Warriors

Modupe Ozolua, body enhancement and reconstructive surgery

Chief Tony Anenih, chairman of board of trustees (PDP) Once Minister of Work.
Gabriel Igbinedion, international business mogul and bini high chief and owner of ITV

Raymond Dokpesi, owner of Africa largest private television network and politician

Lancelot Oduwa Imasuen, film director, screenwriter and producer benin invasion 1897

Suyi Davies Okungbowa, African fantasy and speculative fiction author

Osaze Peter Odemwingie, professional footballer
Chris Aire-Iluobe, jeweler and timepiece designer
Francis Edo-Osagie, businessman

Kamaru Usman, professional mixed martial arts fighter contracted to the Ultimate Fighting Championship, and current welterweight champion.

Yakubu Ayegbeni, former professional footballer
Rema (Nigerian musician), musician signed to Mavin Records,

Philip Shaibu (born 1 December 1969, in Kaduna) an alumnus of University of Jos is a Nigerian lawmaker, politician and business man. He is currently the Deputy Governor of Edo State, Nigeria.

Eghosa Asemota Agbonifo, Politician, coordinator of Michael Agbonifo shoe a child foundation

Prof T. M. Yesufu, pioneer Vice-Chancellor of the University of Benin, economist.
Odion Jude Ighalo, Nigerian professional footballer.

Ekosodin :the most popular student area in nigeria

Which state can counter edo achievements

TAO11:
Dear @samuk the fearful heartbroken Bini dullard who already lives his Trumpian denial as a coping mechanism, please find your nemesis below again as always:.

(A) No Pre-1800 Ife/Benin Connection? — DEBUNKED:
https://www.nairaland.com/6234931/why-ikwerres-not-igbo-logic/9#96323798

(B) Benin Owns Lagos? — DEBUNKED: https://www.nairaland.com/6286709/ijebu-vs-jebusite/1#96593783

(C) Yoruba Founded In 1808? — DEBUNKED https://www.nairaland.com/6234931/why-ikwerres-not-igbo-logic/25#96567759

(D)Benin Owns The Word “Oba”? — DEBUNKED https://www.nairaland.com/6234931/why-ikwerres-not-igbo-logic/15#96513655

Kind Regards,
Tao

Tao11 seems shy i would help her

She brought this image below from a yoruba foreign author biller, blier is a foreign yoruba author one of her specialty is on ife history, jusy the way we have afc ryder a foreign author too who specializes on benin history

I posted afc ryders work as my screenshot above him discrediting benin ife relationship


On the othet hand biler has accepted and probably tries to find way to belive on the oral history benin and the yorubas have told about oduduwa sending his son oromiyan coming to benin, but one thing about blier is her desperation to connect both history even with illogical points or false point


Now the images points out a benin sculpture found in ife, in bliers work, and yet when we check on net to find the details, or how it was found in ife we get lost, and seem non existing

I have also begged tao11 to also share the direct referencing to the book or share the pdf to get further details she seems not to have replied me


So its eithet Tao11 is desperate to falsefully connect both tribe or blier is desperate to connect them and sell her books

Anyway you all can do the research yourself on that sculpture

Am a free thinker if you dont mind


Benin ife not yet debunked nether the title oba


The title oba entered the yoruba lexicon through benin ventures into Eastern yoruba during its expansion, and soon diffused into all yorubas

There is a parable in owo, that says, just as the oba n' idu commands respect on earth olodumare commands respect in heaven
Despite interaction with eastern Yoruba they made a sizable contact with vast yoruba tribe too

Benins supplied the atilaries used in the yoruba civil war of late 1800

If we are to mention benin influence on vast yoruba land it will too numerous to mention


The yorubas always have the claim oromiyan came to establish the obaship stool on benin but when taken a deeper look into this history shows that it was a political staged myth of late 1800 after the benin invasion by the British, oba eweka11 sought monarchial help from the then ooni to help strengthening the political power of the edo people who was emerging from a devastating war that burnt down the city capital
You know the rest
The benin monarch accepted to be one of oduduwa son, in the hierarchy it was ooni first and oba of benin second, at these time alafin was still having superiority battle against the ooni, later when awolowo elevated the stool, the alafin subcumed and decided to stay at second displacing the oba to third position

So their argument on the ownership of the word oba has been defeated

It was mere politcs even the yoruba unification was not historical and ife was never thier ancestral town ife was a religious town to the yorubas


The title oba has bern in the yoruba lexicon as far
As 16century when benin expanded into their territory that would be 6centuries now
Despite the long age it has been in Yoruba lexicon it remains foreign to them

Imagine benin supplying yoruba warriors fighting atilaries, controlling their lands, giving them kings, controlling their market, just imagine how the title oba would sound to them


When the oba of benin was being taken to calabar by the British they had to cover his face to avoid uprise from both benin areas and non edo territorie

Note
Not until 1930 the ooni of ife used the word oba officially to adress is title letting go of the British sir in replacement of oba

He made a mistake of not foreseeing the end of the false political unification of benin people under yoruba umbrella he only saw the advantage of the name it would bring to his stool

He never proclaimed other yoruba monarchs to follow suit but automatically the other yoruba bought into adding oba to thier title

Note

Ogie is a title for duke only the oba of benin bears the title oba of benin

The question every tribe should ask yoruba is why do they adopt the word oba as a generic term for kingship when already is known to adress a popular monarch

I guess the answer can also be found in my writeup

Picture of one of the ooni holding an edo ceremonial sword wanting to mimic the benin stool, but i guess he later droped it

Balogunodua:
We know who is really in pain.....

Buhari dog

valirex:
Beautiful thread, but ọma dẹ necessary ni main outsiders Ẹdonaze na?

Why, this is what killed the language at first trying
To keep the language for just the edo before we knew we started keeping it from our children


Anytribe who wants to learn edo should be allowed to.....

Balogunodua:
As for tollyboy5 he should come and provide evidence of Ijebu biblical connection.

You're not even base in your state

Neither are you from ife, but oversabi i must defend yoruba


See your profile following one of Buhari dogs bbq
Guy


You're one of the government yoruba dogs


I pity your life

Balogunodua:
Lolzzz....

You only get ban when you break the rules and that is what you guys having been doing...

Breaking which rule for creating a thread or giving a screenshot evidence are you on drugs or something


Or is one of Tao11 third account

Etrusen:
this is the other place

Hmm fiqure it out maybe its an error on your part

Etrusen:
it is only video recording that available

I can't find voice record

Try it again bro

samuk:
You can't expect much from a dullard other than a one liner. Convince your fellow Yoruba Ijebu first that they are Oduduwa before trolling Benin.

This one go pain am

Balogunodua:
You are trying so hard to stay relevant...

You're trying to troll to ease pain and stay relevant

Balogunodua:
Hiding behinde tollyboy to troll her is a waste of time....

She hid under the mod to get we binis banned

She hid under the igbo guys comment to insult me and you cheered her to it.

But yet am just doing one of it and you're crying on her behalf


Wonders shall never end

Hypocrite

Etrusen:
I don't really know how use voice record

but I will need the help of fellow Edo indigenes to make this thread a success

When you are quoting someone after the submit button below is choose file click the button and it will take you to the different type of file you will see record

As soon as you click it, the record button it will take u to your recording app on your phone

Tao11 is an amazing dullard and a terrible illustionist

TAO11:
FRAUD ALERT!!!
In response to the foregoing fraud, it is NOT the Ifes who propagated the idea that they thought the Binis bronze casting.

Rather, it is the Binis themselves who insisted adamantly to the Europeans that Bronze casting was thought to them by their masters from Ife.

Moreover, in the logic of disgruntled Bini Nairalanders, a student who goes on to have an apparently more sizeable library than his teacher (although with relatively inferior materials) was never taught by such teacher.

Oh God! Please answer this prayer. Please give Binis brain — at least small. Amen!
————————
Summary:
Folks, make sure to find this handy for quick referencing:

(A) No Pre-1800 Ife/Benin Connection? — DEBUNKED:
https://www.nairaland.com/6234931/why-ikwerres-not-igbo-logic/9#96323798

(B) Benin Owns Lagos? — DEBUNKED: https://www.nairaland.com/6286709/ijebu-vs-jebusite/1#96593783

(C) Yoruba Founded In 1808? — DEBUNKED https://www.nairaland.com/6234931/why-ikwerres-not-igbo-logic/25#96567759

(D)Benin Owns The Word “Oba”? — DEBUNKED https://www.nairaland.com/6234931/why-ikwerres-not-igbo-logic/15#96513655

Peace!

———————
PS: To claim your kingdom is great is one thing. But to claim your kindgom is greater than others’ is a separate claim entirely.

It is for this second type of claims that I often bring up relative comparisons, such as in my screenshot below, from the same pre-1897 observers.

He who has not been to another man’s farm may conclude erroneously that his father’s is the largest.

~ Yoruba Proverb.

Tao11 seems shy i would help her

She brought this image below from a yoruba foreign author biller, blier is a foreign yoruba author one of her specialty is on ife history, jusy the way we have afc ryder a foreign author too who specializes on benin history

I posted afc ryders work as my screenshot above him discrediting benin ife relationship


On the othet hand biler has accepted and probably tries to find way to belive on the oral history benin and the yorubas have told about oduduwa sending his son oromiyan coming to benin, but one thing about blier is her desperation to connect both history even with illogical points or false point


Now the images points out a benin sculpture found in ife, in bliers work, and yet when we check on net to find the details, or how it was found in ife we get lost, and seem non existing

I have also begged tao11 to also share the direct referencing to the book or share the pdf to get further details she seems not to have replied me


So its eithet Tao11 is desperate to falsefully connect both tribe or blier is desperate to connect them and sell her books

Anyway you all can do the research yourself on that sculpture

Am a free thinker if you dont mind

TAO11 provide the date that sculpture was found
In ife, the founder, the site, and appropriate location and Stam by the nigerian government

davidmarker:
A long time ago, I stopped responing that retarded person because after proving a bunch of his lies to be lies, the troll would only come back with an even longer write-up made up of even more obvious lies. Just wasting your time even more.

Same person who couldn't prove bini ife relationship started claiming oromiyan brought the title benin to ife.......

If i was the only one debating her that thread wont pass five pages because if she cant prove it, then she cant claim ownership

But you guys are Giving her distraction making her troll

Balogunodua:
Just because she didn't agree with you doesn't mean you change to insult like an Edo miscreant...

Let him speak is mind and fight for his people , edo miscreant kill you there nonsense

According to tollyboy5

Toa111 is an amazing dullard

tollyboy5:
You're wasting your time with the ife/olofin illusionist . haven't you check her profile?

Someone who claim the awujale of ijebu land and the other ijebus who chose to believe Sudan migration are liars.
She's enforcing it on everyone the the world came from ife. According to her olofin/obatala folklore .
You should know she's a big joke. She can't even explain how ife came to be. She after ife supremacy battle. These sect of people will go against scientific analysis to prove mythology

I like your good works you are not a coward indeed ijebu people are not cowards like yorubas

My great respect to ijebu people

Anyone yet with prove

If you're going to be doing this you will have to be using voice recorder along with your writeup

Am not good in benin writings

Nice, remembering growing up, in grammer school while going on the way to school we buy akara and bread and be eaten on the way
With our bogus uniforms


Our teacher were teaching in benin and English

Uhnu gban gban gban....

All these are no more, the greatest achievement the oba can do for the bins is bringing back their
Language and not the bini artworks


Without the bini language how can we truly cherish our heritage or even understand the artwork

tollyboy5:
So you even mean the biblical account are myth
But your ife ancestors who cannot read and write are quoting illusional date of history. When it is obvious their ancestors believe in folklore and believe it with their heart. Oshey baddest omo olofin


I agree difference race has their myth and legend . and posted screenshot on how , Egyptian ,Nubian, ancestors influence the Sudan to show they're not confuse of fact. But you chose to be blind. How is it my fault.

Funny you . you're quick to think yourself as accurate bah! Even as a mathematician we don't just pick random date like your ife illusionist did.
What carbon dating or scientific process was behind your so-called date?

me terrible at maths. If you could say this then your the one bringing random figures without scientific evaluation. You think mathematicians just talk maths bah! Mathematicians are scientist and they don't believe in olofin myth. They could make reasonable prediction that would need further investigation , just the way reasonable people trace origin of man to east Africa .

You're the amazing dullard here. Because your ife has no root. Archaelogist has it where the oldest skull of men were found.

But your dullard ife historian want to use obatala myth to conquer scientific evaluation

Since wadai existed only from 1501 then wadai existed before Israel ,Egypt , lybia , Ethiopia by your date analysis.
People like you will fail woefully in philosophy because you lack basic logic.
If I may ask your field. Let it not be that I've been wasting Precious time with a Yoruba BSC graduate.

An obatala /olofin illusionist. the background of your believe are false , no point wasting time with you.
Go back to your olofin /obatala history and present it to historians as the ife origin.
You've been shying away from saying it because you know its a laughing stock.

Lol, i love this word amazing dullard

TAO11 many secrete will be open on this thread
So i will stick around to learn and laugh

tollyboy5:
So you even mean the biblical account are myth
But your ife ancestors who cannot read and write are quoting illusional date of history. When it is obvious their ancestors believe in folklore and believe it with their heart. Oshey baddest omo olofin


I agree difference race has their myth and legend . and posted screenshot on how , Egyptian ,Nubian, ancestors influence the Sudan to show they're not confuse of fact. But you chose to be blind. How is it my fault.

Funny you . you're quick to think yourself as accurate bah! Even as a mathematician we don't just pick random date like your ife illusionist did.
What carbon dating or scientific process was behind your so-called date?

me terrible at maths. If you could say this then your the one bringing random figures without scientific evaluation. You think mathematicians just talk maths bah! Mathematicians are scientist and they don't believe in olofin myth. They could make reasonable prediction that would need further investigation , just the way reasonable people trace origin of man to east Africa .

You're the amazing dullard here. Because your ife has no root. Archaelogist has it where the oldest skull of men were found.

But your dullard ife historian want to use obatala myth to conquer scientific evaluation

Since wadai existed only from 1501 then wadai existed before Israel ,Egypt , lybia , Ethiopia by your date analysis.
People like you will fail woefully in philosophy because you lack basic logic.
If I may ask your field. Let it not be that I've been wasting Precious time with a Yoruba BSC graduate.

An obatala /olofin illusionist. the background of your believe are false , no point wasting time with you.
Go back to your olofin /obatala history and present it to historians as the ife origin.
You've been shying away from saying it because you know its a laughing stock.

Jesus you won kill am,

Pity Tao11 na, biko, she can't do without myth

I thought i would never see any yorubas who wouldn't indulge in mythical beliefs


On how Balogunodua and Tao11 tries to use that obatala myth to prove ownership of the word oba
Made me laugh

TAO11:
Are you from Ijebu Remo? NO!

Hence you’re not Ijebu (or you have no Ijebu connection) — Your own retarded logic.

Stop behaving like Binis.

Ogun kill you there for mentioning benin in both your coward yoruba history


Mad she-male

gomojam:
This your new Benin vs Ijebu hobby will be a more devastating embarassment than your previous revisionism.

For a moment we didnt see you in the Ikwerre thread probably you were working with the mods to banned bini people,
Cowards

2buffagain:
Oga calm down. It's all the same in God's eyes.

Not in man's eyes, not in our traditional gods eyes

I dont know the God you serve bro but i believe you shouldn't be the judge for your God