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It takes more than a few yrs abroad to ease something thats ingrained over generations
as long as you are raised within a certain culture,
its hard to completely let go of all its ideals,,,, many of our influences are on a subconscious level and you have no control over that
(not unless you make decisions contrary to your natural instincts)

I think people are getting carried away

Social class is not determined purely material things,
other things such as breeding and grooming comes into play,
also education, family background, manners and refinement, language, aspiration and taste,,,

I definitely cannot marry below my social class, like someone mentioned earlier I aim to progress in life.
Of course i definately will marry someone who has worked himself into a higher social class (i don't mean in terms of income),after all i wasn't born with a silver spoon in my mouth and have worked hard to get to where i am today.

Every man should work towards attaining a better life and stop making stupid excuses
I'm not talking about money,,, i value manners and class over money

Its human nature to be scared of what we dont understand
Africans most especially are deeply religious people and thus taught to revere certain things

the white people with modern advances in science are more inclined to let go of religious constraints and thus investigate anything that they feel makes no rational sense.

It all boils down to culture really

Its difficult to teach abstinence when there are ways around it
with condoms and all kinds of contraceptives available
its just preaching: a do-what-I-say-not-what-I-do situation

Apparently, its happened before
someone else did the same to his daughter for 10 yrs

depressing!!!

the surgical solution is your only permanent choice actually
its called body sculpting (there ist much cutting tho)

they suck out fat from some areas on your bodyand inject it in areas u want it, reshaping it to your desired form
its most common for bums where most white women (who we all know have flat asses) get the Brazilian butts
in the process the hips are also shaped so it looks natural

there are padded under-wears available now with silicon padding in areas where you're lacking,,, don't knw what they're called tho, saw them on tv once
or u could try a home made method a friend of mine perfected, she always wears a pair of jeans shorts stuffed with socks under everything she wears,,,
up to u

ndubest:
I hope the claim by the government of Gordon Brown on the fight against racism is not lip service

This the time to act

am even thinking that Nigeria can take the extreme measure of banning BA from the Nigeria route for sometime if they don't come up with good explanation and concrete apology for their actions

I think the colonial mentality is still in their mind and its time we act

It is Lip service sadly,
the thing is they are very good at hiding it and coming up with other reasons for thebad treatment of other races,,,
I've over heard a number of racist conversations at work (not about me tho) and then they turn around and smile really sweetly and condescendingly to me. One guy was particularly nasty and i had to speak up,,, I think he got in trouble but its hard when the powers that be are equally as racist.
We have the race discrimination act to help protect minority races but racism is an individual thing,,, some people are just small minded and  there is nothin we can do but avoid them and keep our heads high.

Why must everything have diabolical undertones

Has anyone thot that perhaps its for her comfort?
hotels have back-up generators, room service, lush accomodations and all the luxuries he probably believes she's used to.
It might be a simple case of wanting to impress

It has to be my kitchen,,,Its massive and my friends and I just hangout there all day,,,,
I had to move the widescreen in there because it was wasted in the livingroom

Also my boudoir
The perfect relaxation space   

It think the problem liesin the fact that we dont know how to celebrate an encourage other peoplessuccess in Nigeria.
Every country has bad things about them in the press but because they celebrate their successes very effectively in the media, we dont seemuch of the bad stuff.

The problems with Nigerians is that they run down anyone who has made a success of themselves.
There is a lot of ill feelings towards neighbours and some people go as far as deliberately sabotaging the hard work of their fellow Nigerian. for this reason, i guess most people who are doingwell for themselves will stay out of the limelight to avoid all the negativity.

As a country we need to embracethe idea of brotherhood,,,, Nigeria for Nigerians by Nigerians (someone used the phrase in a speech i attended recently and it makes sense)

I've been following this story,,,
I don't understand how people end up being so sick!!!!

[b]An Austrian engineer has confessed to fathering seven children by raping his own daughter and keeping them captive in the cellar, Austrian police said.

The Times of London reported Monday that during the 24 years that Josef F kept his daughter Elisabeth locked up in a windowless cellar underneath the house where he lived with his wife Rosemarie, the 73-year-old is said to have fathered and acted as midwife at the birth of Kerstin, 19, Stefan, 18, Lisa, 16, Monica, 14, Alexander, 11, and Felix, 5, Austrian police have revealed.

A seventh child - a twin boy - was said by police to have died three days after his birth and his body to have been burned in the large, well-kept gardens of the grey, concrete villa in Ybbs Street in the eastern town of Amstettin.

Mr. F, who was arrested on Saturday night at the hospital where Kerstin has been lying in a coma for over a week, was this morning said to have begun to speak to police for the first time. Until last night he had told them little more than the code to the hidden electronic trapdoor to the windowless cellars where the secret family was kept imprisoned.

“He has now said that he locked up his daughter for 24 years and that he alone fathered her seven children and that he locked them up in the cellar,” said Colonel Franz Polzer, head of the criminal investigations unit in the province of Lower Austria.

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Police: Father Held Daughter in Cellar for 24 Years in Austria Prosecutors said a little later however that Mr. F had confessed only to imprisoning his daughter and her children, and not to incest.

Josef F “has admitted building the dungeon and to holding his daughter and three children there. But he has not admitted incest,” said Gerhard Sedlacek, a spokesman for Austrian prosecutors.

Mr F has been transferred to court and is expected to appear before an investigating magistrate this evening. DNA test results that will determine whether he did indeed father his daughter Elisabeth's children, as she has claimed, are not expected for two days.

Police have spent the night exploring the network of rooms where they say Elisabeth was first imprisoned on August 28 1984, aged 19, after being drugged and handcuffed by her father. The tiny entrance was concealed in a workshop in a public part of the cellar.

"There was a shelf with plenty of cans and containers, and behind the shelf was a door made of reinforced concrete, secured electronically and running on steel rails, and only the suspect knew the code," said Heinz Lenze, a local police official.

Once inside the dungeon, police reported, they found all the passages extremely narrow, the ceiling is no higher than 170 cm and the floors uneven. They have found a makeshift shower room, cooking rings for the secret family to heat food, and a room lined entirely in rubber whose use is unknown.

Mr F, a retired engineer who used to work for the construction company Zehnter, was said by police to have been continuously renovating and extending the hidden cellar. Detectives say they have not ruled out finding further secret rooms underneath the sprawling villa.

All seven children were conceived and born in the cellar, police say, but within months of their births they were divided between the dark and the light. As babies aged between nine and 15 months, Lisa, Monica and Alexander were adopted and raised by their grandparents, leading normal lives - attending school and playing in the swimming pool in the gardens of the villa.

The three babies were said to have been discovered on the doorstep of the villa between 1993 and 1997. Each baby was left with a note supposedly written by their missing mother Elisabeth, whom the authorities believed had probably joined an extreme and isolated religious sect.

But in the windowless cellar their three siblings Kerstin, Stefan, the two eldest, and Felix, the youngest, continued to be kept hidden, allegedly a secret even from their grandmother - never seeing the sun, their only source of light the harsh striplight overhead, and dependant on their mother to teach them to speak, read and write.

A television was their only contact with the outside world, apart from the hatch through which their alleged father/grandfather passed food and clothes.

The sequence of events by which the grim charade was uncovered appears to have begun ten days ago when Kerstin, the oldest child, was found unconscious and seriously ill outside the cellar - reports differ to exactly where - with yet another note from Elisabeth asking for her to be given medical help.

She was taken to hospital, where she is said to be in a serious condition. Her doctors issued an urgent appeal for her mother to come forward to supply medical information to help save her life.

Following this appeal Mr. F appears to have decided to allow his captives to leave the cellar, telling his wife that the longlost Elisabeth had at last decided to return home with the rest of her children.

He and Elisabeth were held by police on Saturday night at the hospital where Kerstin is being treated. Police then found the rest of the children at the villa. It was only last night that detectives gained access to the cellar.

According to Austrian police, Elisabeth F is in a "very bad condition." She was described as "extremely pale", and looking 20 years older than her age, the Austrian broadcaster Orf reported. She is alleged to have given a full statement to police on condition that she did not have to see her father again. Grandmother, mother and children are said to be receiving counseling and medical treatment.

“This is a shock to all of us,” a neighbor who gave her name only as Maria, 66, said. “I’m good friends with Mrs. F. Both she and her husband are lovely people. I’ve seen her take the children to school very often – they are well dressed, polite and very nice. I just saw her the other day and I still cannot believe that this was going on in front of our noses. We always believed that the mother of the children had run away and dumped them on the grandparents. Who would ever think of such a horrible thing?”

Mr. and Mrs. F have four children besides Elisabeth, all of whom now have families of their own. Mr F is said by police to have presided over all family affairs with an iron hand. But how he managed to keep a secret so horrifying behind an underground door will puzzle psychiatrists and sociologists for years as they decide whether there is such a thing as an “Austrian syndrome.”

As Austrians woke this morning to the realization that yet another horrific child kidnap case has been taking place in their midst, the news is likely to fuel a furious debate in Austria about how easy it is to slip through the welfare net. “This is one of the most extraordinary cases in Austrian criminal history,” said Colonel Polzer.

Guenther Platter, the Austrian Interior Minister, said: "We are being confronted with an unfathomable crime. Everything that has happened here goes beyond one's imagination."[/b]


http://www.thestar.com/article/419089

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2008/04/27/waustria227.xml

Seems like a reasonable request,
besides I really dont understand how harm could be brought via the dress,,,
u only wear a wedding dress once and its kept for sentimental reasons

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Thats nothin short of amazing,,, only in Nigeria!!!

Ice Age 2 (Its so funny)
Happy Feet (made me cry)

Some people can be so insensitive,
If u have nothin nice to say, move on, u don't have to post on every thread u knw,

@ poster,
I admire ur courage,
Good luck

[quote author=@desodgi link=topic=130290.msg2200080#msg2200080 date=1209343484]Hey your profile is scary[/quote]Ur problem not mine

This is so weird, i was just thinkin about this today

From this moment - Shania Twain
At last - Etta James
The Way You Look Tonight - Frank Sinatra#
Everytime I close my Eyes - Babyface
When You Say Nothing At All - Ronan Keating
Always - Atlantic starr
You're Still the one - Shania Twain
Come away with me - Norah Jones
This I Swear - Nick Lachey

What harrassment? 

I see a girl who got what she wanted, what do u see?


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NaJa HaJe:
if a guy says hi to me then I'll think to say hello

abi oh
what else can i say?,,, he may be saying hi many number of reasons

Do u want a Girl or Gel?
This is not a dating site!!!

bawomolo:
this is the problem with u guys, every criticism is seen as hating or complaining. i didn't complain. u have to state the problems before u find solutions.

the problem is everyone is a critic, everyone seems happy to focus on the problem and not enough people are moving onto address the situation,,, I'm simply saying focusing too long on the problem is creating pessimists in the process.

people keep on pointing individual success. what about what's happening on the macroeconomic level

my Foundation works at the community level and that is what I'm talking about.
entire communities coming together to fight their way out of a near hopless situation, despite the poverty and crisis in that region they have managed to organise themselves into self sustaining communities, with great pride in their achievements.
how many such communities have taken such initiative? becos everyone else is doing so they too sit and criticise,
its all wrong!



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Siena:
Problem with satisfying curiosity that way is, what you MAY find could give you sleepless nights, depending on the way you interpret what you see.

i know
I've learnt not to take things at face value tho,
I always take things with a grain of salt, goes a long way to ease the mind