₦airaland Forum

remsonik:
This is a nice thing. I will build my church and the gates of hell shall not prevail. If you know you can't pastor a church don't take the job cos it's a call and you have to be really dedicated to it. It's not something you can do as side hustle or for play.

I tried to educate some people about what truly transpired in the sacking of those pastors but they were just talking nonsense in the first thread about this issue. They were basically absent in their duty post which affected their productivity. Only those that have the calling and passion for Christ can thrive.

hardbody:
This (bolded) only happens when one is either resigning or being fired. All these people twisting the narratives can't just stand for the truth for once.

Get understanding bro......yes, he is fired but he can continue is pastoring ministry but not with Living Faith. That is what that letter is saying.

Its just like sacking someone from a job doesn't mean they cannot continue their professional life. I honestly think this doesn't need arguments.

Na them sabi jo!!

phemmyfour:
open your eyes

Our understanding is quite different from each other. He doesn't know that the pastor can still do his calling privately without the Living Faith Church.....

CodeTemplar:
That part about all branches having accommodation isnt true. It is 90% wrong.

Bro, that guy does not have the details of what he is saying. I want to believe he is talking about established parishes. The new pastors that were employed last year have to start from scratch. Some people will just come online to spew what they don't have facts about. Someone close to me is one of the pastors employed last year but thank God he is doing well in his parish. One of his colleague is on query because he is not doing quiet well in his parish.

Kobojunkie:
Interesting! What you describe are surely problems that businesses have to tackle regularly.

Oh well!

Patrioticman007:
Why is the church selfish ?.
You mean you want the pastor to move his family to a village of less than 100 villagers from the city ?. What school will his kids attend ?. What of the health institution in the village, that cannot cater for medical emergency ?. Why must the church sacrifice the younger generation for the church, instead of the GO's to be staying in the villages to win more souls, nope they will rather die in the comfort of the cities. My question is that what Jesus preached about loving your neighbor as yourself ?.

Well i don't know about that. I just stated what I know. The reason why they always advice their families to move with them is because they don't want the families to have scandals. Their are disciplinary issues that has led to the sack of some pastors.

philipobiz:
Omo see defending

I am actually not defending anybody. I am not a member but i have eyes in there. Most of those affected are the new pastors employed late last year.

SARSCoV2:
Hello...

You not on page


No one is sending anybody to relocate. It's a Franchise. Same with redeem. You can buy it with money by just forming holy ghost for 2 month. What matters is what you are able to remit afterwards.

Lol, i don't know about franchise o! I just stated what i know.

NewDelhi:
You just said Nonsense.

Every winners branch has an accommodation. (Usually at the back of the church). It's free for the pastor and his family. He doesn't need to pay a dime, the church doesn't give you money to rent anything. Once they redeploy you, you'll vacate and the next pastor will move in with his family. That's how it is in winners. Accomodation is free.

Secondly, paid which Money to get which hall? What are you saying please? Winners does not rent. They build their stations from scratch.

You're also talking of absenteeism? You think he's the only pastor running the affairs of the station? He has lieutenants and subsidiaries. It's a full time job. Fine they can have side hustle but you just have to find time to commit yourself to the number 1 purpose that brought you to that community.

What that pastor said might be true. I was in church today ( a winners branch in a remote area where my farm is ) and the pastor was unusually absent. To make matters worse, the assistant pastor said another pastor was coming next Sunday to preach. Maybe the former one has already been replaced we don't know but definitely , it was obvious something wasn't right somewhere.

Wow! Its obvious you don't know winners pretty well bro.. ... I didn't just say all those things just for saying sake. Please do your homework well. Go and ask the new pastors employed to the winners chapel. I would not say more than that. Cheers bro!

Kobojunkie:
May I inquire as to why it can't be true?

Let me see if i can attend to your enquiry.....

What happened to most of the pastor sacked is not about monetary issues. They are basically not telling the truth and they feel pained.

I know a winners pastor in Ogun State who told me that most of these pastors don't reside in the places where they are transferred which in turn led to their inefficiency(not doing their jobs accordingly).

I will give a scenario.....winners chapel will give you money to pay house rent in the place where you will pastor (according to their mandate your family should move with you to the place) but these pastors will for one reason or the other not move with their families. This results to absenteeism. They will only travel to their branches on Saturdays to prepare for Sunday service. They are required to do evangelism to create awareness about Christ and the church which they don't do as a result of not always being around. Unknown to some of these pastors, winners send some people to go do some investigations to know if these pastors are up and doing.

Secondly, they are been paid monies to get halls for their branches but some pastors will inflate the price while others even spent the money.

These pastors have so many misconducts they are not talking about but want to tarnish the image of the church.

Hammyaladin:
I don't have anything to say!











By the way slowmir has not been active lately. Abi efcc don catch am

Lol! This is so funny

malcom1X:
Is she married? If she is, just let it go.

If she's not married, you should have slapped her back without even thinking about any consequences.

Can you please enlighten me on why marital status has anything to do with assault and to those saying let it go, you won't have said that if it was the other way round. Gender shouldn't have anything to do with assault.

Drwinz:
FUTMINNA is known for harmonic environment of the school main campus where both students and the locals lives like family and care for each other.

Some family cries when they sees there long time student tenants leaving after graduation.
Some students still take their time to be visiting once in a while.

If you are a futmite here you know how w dey be for gidan Keanu.
Congratulations to you little bro!

Please correct the bolded to Kwano ....

AngelicDamsel:
Banking and Finance course na scam.


There is no complexity in banking anymore, everything is now being computerized. A basic knowledge of computer operation is all you need.

Exactly, but you need certifications and training to be able to move up the ladder.

FreeStuffsNG:
Sir, in life , it's what you focus on that expands. Success always leaves a trail. If you do what successful people do, you are more likely to end where they ended, regardless of your gender . And if you do the opposite of what they do, you are more likely to end where unsuccessful people end. I am sure that you missed the part where I reminded all knowing folks like you that there is nothing unusual if you don't even attend a university and become a bank M.D. as a Chartered Accountant because with basic o level, you can start ATS and pass all the way to chartered level.

And contrary to the condescending way you made it sound like it's insane that she merited it, in another 'insane ' country called England, the number one banker is a Historian! Andrew Bailey did not even study a numerate course, he studied the art of History. Yet today, the No. 1 banker in the UK and the person who oversees the monetary policy on on of the strongest currencies in the world! With History o!
Why UNILAG, OAU, UNN, UI and ABU, attend those schools and study top courses there first sir. The taste of the pudding is in the eating. To the young folks, don't listen to anyone telling you that you should settle for less in life, especially decisions on your life. The top is not crowded, only the bottom is . Go for the top! What is paining misogynists is not her illustrious professional background, it's the fact that the person who merited it is a woman!

You better let that guy be with his ignorant views. Their are many ways to climb the banking ladder. A girl friend of mine who is so dear to me studied English language at the university of Lagos and works with this same Gtb in a department (i don't want to divulge too much information). So if such lady end up becoming the MD tomorrow, people like that guy you are quoting will be saying things like she is a slut or must have connections e.t.c

People need to open their minds and not just form opinions because they cannot get jobs through their own degree. The banking sector is not like an engineering sector where by you need to have studied engineering before you qualify for the job.

The most important thing to note is for anyone to get to the top of their careers is training and further trainings, get certifications and most importantly the grace of God.

heniford2:
So many hoe price was made to reach that level anyway congrats to the next level of hoeing

Not everyone is like that please.

emmabest2000:
Describe thie picture below with two words

Senior man!!

[quote author= post=103597485]As seen somewhere on cyberspace......[/quote]Agbaya!!!

MummyD2020:
Are u kidneying me?

Lol....i can see what you just did

famzynet:
I will simplify it for you by telling you the pros and cons of taking the job

Pros:
- You get better salary as nurse assistant in the UK than you receive as a nurse in Nigeria thus you can save better cash for issues back home and also for your exams.
-Intereacting with the British in the course of the job will improve your listening part of the IELTS thus increasing your chances a bit of passing the exam.
- Seeing how developed the UK is compared to Nigeria and the opportunity of better pay as a nurse will make you work harder to pass those exams.
- When you pass your nursing exam,you will get better offer at jobs than a newbie nurse from Nigeria because you are already in the UK and with experience in their health sector.You won't need anyone to sponsor your flights and etc because you already would have the cash to do so. Those sponsoring come at a cost of a lower salary than should be even though it is still more than 10x better than what nurses get in Nigeria.
- You may even find easier career progression in that area as the senior health care assistants earn more than some nurses.
- You have better chance at saving the money to try OET which some say they found easier.
- Some nurses in the UK worked as health care assistants before they were able to pass the exams.
- Such visa allows you bring your partner and children so you save them stress of getting visa to the Uk

Cons:
- Accommodation is a big problem in the UK especially if you have a family. If you are single,you may manage with shared apartment to save. If married and with children,it will be difficult to cope with your salary except the city is cheap and your partner works. It becomes even more difficult if you still have any child less than 3 years as your salary cannot cope with their child care fees.
- Working in the UK can be mentally stressful for some as there is no room for any mistake so you will need that extra determination to create time to study in your free time. If you have the true Nigeria spirit and you are not the lazy type ,you can do it. If you hate stress in life especially with combining things,then forget it.
The stress will be short while if you suffer it once. Hopefully you should pass all the exams within 2 years.
- If you have family back in Nigeria ,it may be difficulty getting approval to go and see them. This may change with time if the covid rules changes.

This is very true and detailed. You talk like a travel agent especially to the UK.

chocolateme:
I come from a very strict background.
I grew up in fear, submission and obedience to my parents, elders and relatives. I am well mannered. I have anger and temper issues but it never goes beyond sulking and crying silently to get it off my chest. I find it difficult to let go when aggravated but in trcent times, i have worked on myself so much that i channel my displeasure to free tears flowing down my cheeks after which i let go of everything.

I am always looking for excuses to run away from any form of marriage discussion whenever its comes to that, i don't give room to premarital sex. I don't know how to overcome this. When my potential suitor seems so nice and with good disposition and everything worth craving for , then i ask myself " who are these people that end up enemies suddenly and what on earth can cause someone to become so horrible that a once lovely marriage turns into chaos "

Honestly, i believe that with my tolerance level that i can manage a home and marriage but then,how can you tell that of your potential partner?

Sometimes, i just want to remain like this and grow old and still be very happy but then societal and family pressure to get married and have your own kids keeps getting higher which results to my running away more and more. To make it worse, i don't keep friends.
Who knows how to overcome this and how can it be ok?

Aunty, i can put it to you that you are a narcisst.

MT:
Lot of Nurses in Nigeria have been getting such visa these days. I am not in a position to say if it is a step up or step down for you. However, you are a professional, if the visa will permit you to switch to proper nursing later, I think it will be fine, otherwise, you may be frustrated doing a lower cadre job. Try to learn about it if it leads to citizenship as well and evaluate all the hidden conditions attached. My 2 cents

I don't think such visa permits you to change from nursing assistant to a nurse which is a step down for me. The visa is usually 2 to 3 years but the Op can do some research though.

MadamVanessa:





What is so wrong with someone having sex with inmate? When the person wasn't forced into the act, it was clearly based on agreement.

So because someone is in prison, he shouldn't have his life again.

I don't think you understand why prisons were created in the first place.

Princedapace:
What is the minimum wage in Nigeria and in the USA?

Abeg, people should stop this rubbish of comparing Nigeria with these countries.

Nigeria no be country o. Wait until u have an emergency health issue in Nigeria, u will die except there is special grace.
Most of ur health care in Nigeria are dumbing ground. Most hospitals don't even have enough beds for people. Like u will wait for ur turn to use beds

People think that life starts and ends with their income. We are talking about facilities which are pry duty of govt. They are none functional in Nigeria abeg.

As we dey talk, my area have not seen electricity for five days now

Nigeria is chaotic. Na una wey dey disturb una selves with building of houses, buying plenty cars and doing all that shit when u reach abroad that make it look like they aren't doing well.

Anyone who is comfortable with living quite comfortable, will never regret leaving Nigeria. Na when u dey find money, plenty money to shock people in Nigeria and buy plenty cars, that is when u begin mount pressure on ur self.

Nigerians that live outlandish lifestyles always find it difficult to live in such societies and they are the ones always complaining that abroad is bad.

DaInferno:
your write up doesn't answer the question op asked...in all I read, I was expecting to see where abroad is good or bad. Just vague

That write up is not vague in my opinion. Its a question you can't just say its good or bad. People have different experiences. Abroad was splendid for Mr. A when he left Nigeria does not mean it will be same for Mr. B. All he was alluding to is the process and circumstances will usually justify the result a person turn out with.

Like he said, when you travel out and the support system is not genuine, their is everything tendency for you to mix with the bad eggs which in turn will lead to bad experience. For someone that has good people who are supporting at every step will most likely succeed and eventually have good experience

abumeinben:
Your second story...

I hear this alot. The secret is "how can you get a good job in Canada without a Canadian education?".

Canada values her education highly. Even if it's a 3 month course, do it before hunting good jobs

That is the mistake most immigrants always make. They don't make research on the country they are emigrating to only to find out that things are different over there. Just like you said, getting an education from the country you want to settle in to no matter how small is very vital. It can even be done online from Nigeria before traveling especially in this covid pandemic.

AnotherAlien:
A sane advice is for anyone with a good job in Nigeria considering moving abroad to first visit the country of his choice first, observe life overseas and finally return after comparing both climes.
I know a set of people will throw tantrums upon reading what I said above. To them the only thing stopping them from success is a visa and a ticket - upon stepping on any country in Europe or America, they are automatically billionaires like Dangote. Lack of research has really hurt many making such life-changing decisions.

Roughly 20 years ago when I visited the US embassy in Lagos, I observed a man sitting on a wheelchair, holding a sign saying stuff totally against the US government, right in front of the embassy. I was touched and wanted to know what his problem was. Anyone going to that embassy around then would remember him - he was crippled, not begging, rather having a one-man protest with his visible signs strapped all over his wheelchair.
After I got done with my business in the embassy, I came out and saw him on same wheelchair with same sign and asked him what his problem was. He told me a lot about his life in the US the decades he spent here and how he ended up on the wheelchair.
But his main advise relevant to this topic is what I said in the first paragraph, which is still relevant today - don't make irrational decisions, do your proper research.

The grass is not always greener on the other side. Everyone's success or failures overseas depend largely on those you are surrounded by in whatever clime you find yourself in.
If you are surrounded by Nigerian professionals willing to show you the ropes, you might just be able to secure a professional job like them and start your life.

On the flip side, if you're surrounded by the Nigerian gangs into drugs, gangbanging, hardcore nightlife, you are bound to be like them as well.

Many in the latter category tend to forget what brought them overseas in the first place, and disregard the most important thing they need - establishing their legal status in the country they're in. The worst story I've heard is when someone allowed his stay to expire and said he forgot to do what he needed to do to renew it. He said he was too deep into partying and clubbing and forgot. If you know why you came somewhere, keep track of how to stay there legally.

On a realer note, one big advise would be don't sell your house if you own one in Nigeria to go overseas when you don't know what to expect there.
Many of those you will meet in these countries are unwilling to return to Nigeria because of the constant bad news about Nigeria, and mainly because they have no where to stay when they get back home.
If some had a place to stay, they'd gladly return home. So, why sell a home you already own when many people in the country you're heading to are still struggling with owning one home in Nigeria?
They can always face the bad news like everyone else in Nigeria that lives with it. Not return to Nigeria to become homeless.

Don't resign from a good job you already have in Nigeria. Visit the place first and see things for yourself. You'd be surprised from that experience alone, but it's worth it.

I've heard of stories of people planning to relocate to foreign countries and end up getting abandoned by the friends and family members they relied on, right there at the airport. So, how do you expect to know the system anywhere when you don't know anyone to show you the ropes?

Like someone said in the earlier posts, information is key. Lack of information is what makes a lot of Nigerians make hasty decisions.

I need to hug this fellow.....very insightful.

Praxtech:
Shut up. The cheapest plan is 2k plus

But why do people insult on nairaland before passing whatever opinion they have to share. That thing still amuses me.

saintsylve:
Bros, what is independent? I have found someone I clicked with and working towards post camp activities to accommodate her and push forward and all these I made my friend understand. I had a bad phone or more or less like no phone and I frequently use my friend whom I trusted and shared everything with being that we are from thesame school.
On the day we left camp, I didnt see him, I suffered to get my phone work so I can atleast reach my girl but she wouldn't pick only to find out he went away with her after lies and promise of marriage. It is totally wrong bro, if I didnt introduce and use his phone to call her , he wouldn't meet her but cos I freely trust people.

It is a past experience but it tells is not everyone is a friend, they are rather looking for a single opportunity to bite you.
My write up was to encourage her and tell her how to handle it, this particular guy in op article will still call her later but she should delete and block the numbers of both or give a ghost mode.

Sorry to hear about your situation bro.... but yours is quite different from the op. You were already in a relationship with your ex, so your "friend" and ex betrayed you big time. The op does not have a relationship whatsoever with the said guy (just a toaster) and she allowed her friend's judgment shape her decision which was what i alluded to in earlier post. If you note, she kept saying my friend badmouthed the guy which means the op would have given the guy a chance had the so call friend didn't give her a negative view of the guy.

Rozcol:
There's no game here I'm talking about the snakelike attitude and betrayal, this is someone she never said anything good about.

The problem you had from the beginning is you are not independent in making up your mind in the issue of relationship and that is why your friend could manipulate you. Most girls are always like this and they eventually cry fowl when they are in the clear. As someone has advised you earlier, always do background check on your own before making decisions. Cheers!

drlateef:
What course did you read? Gulf course management or theatre arts? It’s not your fault. It’s the fault of an educational system that does not give career guidance. If you did nursing or medicine you won’t be complaining right now.

My brother you are not far from the truth. If you see the way i changed my career with immediate alacrity to medical line e go shock you.....hunger wan wound me for the course i studied in school. People should learn to apply for courses that are relevant to their environment and with time learn to adapt when their are changes.

GboyegaD:
Oga, for your safety, quit the job. It is wrong for you to touch human excrete and blood stains from my understanding should be reported.

Exactly, it requires the necessary PPE and soiled clothings like that needs to be washed in a sluice machine to avoid being infected.