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Anelka to miss next three weeks with broken toe. This is a serious blow to our chances against Pool.

MrCrackles:
I cant get my head round the reasons why fanatics are linking the recession to "signs of end of times"

I think it is an act of God! Expect all sorts of tests from the Almighty and the recession is definitely one, a wake up call to jolt everyone back to reality!

Guy, you dey smoke Igbo?  Your first sentence and second paragraph are completely contradictory.

naijacutee:
Isn't it interesting to note that while we are still in the middle of this conversation, China has propsed (12 hours ago, to be precise) a global currency as a means of staving off the financial crisis. Please note that this is the first time a global super power has ever made such a proposition. The closest to this has been the introduction of the Euro, the currency adopted by 16 European countries.

Yes, it isn't clear whether this proposal is for a currency that is exclusively available to governments for national reserves, or to individuals as well for international trade - but it is a first.

Like I said before, I'm not suggesting either that the global crisis is an act of God. However, it does fit into the Biblical predictions of the signs of the end of age, whichever way you choose to look at it.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/7961106.stm
http://www.bloggingstocks.com/2009/03/24/china-proposes-a-new-world-currency/

What does China proposing a currency have to do with end times? I want the bible passage that says that we shall all trade in one currency during the end times. I hope you are not talking about the 666 mark needed for buying and selling.

Even during Jesus time, the whole world was trading with Denarius. Nothing has changed. It is a sensible move on China's part to offset any 'unfair' loss incurred by Yankee's move toward quantitative easing. Countries should be exchanging treasury bonds and foreign currency reserves that are tied to a unitary currency. They already do - that currency is called the dollar! Many countries currency is already tied to the dollar and most countries do business in dollars. Yankee always used to say "It is our dollar, but it is your problem". It certainly is Chinas problem now! And that problem must be fixed. Naija have the same problem cos our foreign reserve is mostly in dollars. I support any move to create a 'currency' (It is not physical, only an electronic currency) which is weighted against all the major currencies in order that countries such as Naija can be hedged against currency exposure.

Bamsyle:
Another reason you can't learn anything new from him Maybe his style is . . . erm . . .

. . . encrypted. 

hehehehe. . .

When I asked her to jump, she said "Gimme the rope!"/
Yo, it might be the shit that I quote/
But she aint that smart. . . and my lyrics are encrypted in code/
Its the fact that I work it right/ . . . . And we curse and fight/
but everything is forgiven. . . . from the minute I insert the pipe/  - Ibime

4 Play:
An orgy of ignorance.

This is a real orgy of ignorance. Not even worth responding to these pea-brained sciolists.

Bamsyle:
(1.) Maybe you should also add that he's a fake Kanye West . . . cos he sounds like him atimes . . . plus a fake Wyclef too . . . cos in his "Safe", when he said "MI be in the house and MCs they should bounce and go home to their spouse . . .", he sounded exactly like Wyclef . . .

With all that, he's still better than Freestyle . . .

(2.) Thundering cyclones, I cannot believe this is coming from a netcee . . . what is flow in Rap Music You think it's when an MC spits 500 words per bar I agree MI has got baby rhymes but his 5 words in each bar still murks that . . . it ain't how fast, it's how well . . . otherwise Twista woulda be the best rapper in the Universe right now . . .

(1.) Im glad you mentioned that MI sounds like Wyclef, Lil Wayne and Kanye West. . . . .cos they're all wack!!! I noticed that too.

(2.) First off, I am not a netcee. I am not even an emcee. . . . anymore. But there is no function of an emcee I haven't fulfilled in my younger years, be that shows, live battles, radio etc. Flow is not how fast you spit but how well you ride the beat. IMO, MI does not ride the beat very well at all. Saigon, Jadakiss and Biggie provide perfect example of how one should ride a beat. Every snare, hi-hat and kick is accounted for when the aforementioned spit. When MI spits, Im sorry, he tends to drag the last syllable to fit the bar. His flow is wack. You can take that to the bank. I said it! His flow is elementary like Ye', Lil Wayne etc.

My only criteria when judging a rapper is "Can I learn any new flow-structure from him?". I DEFINITELY cannot learn anything new from MI. On the other hand, I can learn a lot from Freestyle. I do not listen to rap as a consumer, but as a fellow rapper. Theres a poignant difference there.

[quote author=~Sauron~ link=topic=251449.msg3633390#msg3633390 date=1237839960]Are u high on Bolivian weed?? M.I. is better than Freestyle in every department of MCing. . . .
Have u seen this guy flow at all?? He has that cool, creamish demeanour of Jadakiss. He is a natural.
He spits like he was born with lyrics unlike cats like Mode-9 and Eedris who force words. . . U can tell they cram their lyrics. . .They don't come out nice.[/quote]Stop yarning nonsense. . . . I rap pass MI if Im serious about HipHop . . . .he needs to put his baby rhymes away. . . .  Freestyle is a whole 'nother level, with flow and wit. . . . even the sturvs Freestyle did in Pidgin English ten years ago trumps whatever the hell MI is doing now.

Abeg, MI is a fake Lil Wayne. Forget him.

Flowwise, none of em can mess with Freestyle. I dont care about his voice. Hes the only Naija rapper I can actually learn from in terms of flow construction.

See people wey never enter stadium before dey argue about which stadium better pass. Wonders shall never cease. 

I have been to most of the top stadia, and Emirates is the most comfortable. The seats are spacious (and padded). You can approach the stadium from 3 or 4 different tube stations. The bridge walk is expansive and it is easy to get around the stadium to your gate without walking too much. .

Emirates is the blueprint for all future stadium layouts. I suspect Allianz arena is also ultra-modern but I have never been there.

The worst stadium in terms of accessibility is White Hart Lane, and you wouldn't wanna join the crush on the district line on your way to Stamford Bridge.

doyin13:
I support Pompey because I have an almost filial link to the place and I have supported them ever since I could
read those pool slips , so my support I think is wholly rational.

You are a first class liar! 

I believe you started supporting Pompey due to your predilection to Nigerian (& African) players!  Whilst this is wholly commendable, it was a short sighted decision on your part as Diarra and Muntari have headed for greener pastures whilst Utaka and Kanu rest their respective trigenarian and quadragenarian legs on the bench. So how does it feel cheering on Dave Nugent every week? I can't imagine it! 


Chelsea 1996  as Debo would say.

naijacutee:
If anything, Biblical predictions of the signs of the end-times are completely probable, especially when examined in a socio-economic context. Each "incident" so to speak is the natural result of a fallen society where the fear of God is replaced by personal interests/ambition. Christians choosing to regard these signs as completely eschatological or through deterministic lenses is purely a matter of faith. 

From a historical context, what we are facing now is a mere blip and no reason for fanatics to play their 'end of days' trump card.

The beubonic plague which wiped out half of Europe and Asia is more fitting with Jesus' apocalyptic predictions in Matthew 24, not anything we are facing now. The fall of the Roman Empire (as depicted by the feet of steel and clay in Nebuchadnezzer's famous dream) and the subsequent descent into inter-tribal feudalism during the dark ages SHOULD have heralded the so-called 'end of days'. Infact many respected biblical scholars fell flat on their face by predicting impending doom during that period. Nothing has changed. They are still making the same predictions today even in comparatively good times.

Biblical predictions of famine, pestilence and destruction are often nuanced with predictions of "sheathing of swords". I wish bible scholars would be less cryptic and just give us the full koko instead of bamboozling us with loose-fitting parables which can be tailored to any situation the world finds itself in.

As I said before, the global recession is not due to some divine working. Simply, it is part of the economic cycle which is oft-experienced in civilised economies. Some would argue that the 1970's were worse, talkless of 1929.

Bamsyle:
I don't think anyone forgot Freestyle . . . skill for skill, Freestyle ain't as good as any of Mode, Rugged or MI.

Forget story. . . . Freestyle would murder any of the above mentioned. Whilst Modey may be lyrically superior, Freestyle is more dextrous with flow. . . . infact, he is the full package technically speaking.

Charlatans have been predicting the end of days since the beginning of the dark ages. You are just another pea-brained charlatan.

I always despair at Christians' inability to read the signs of the times from an astute historical and socio-economic context, rather than looking through eschatological lenses. This foregoing of logical thought process is the reason why many non-Christians shy away from Christianity. What we are facing now is simply a recession. On average, we have a recession every 8 years. This one is worse than most, but nothing compared to 1929. Kini big deal?

BlueDiva:
Ibime,
Well, you entitled to your list.
Are you a United fan in disguise ?

How can I be a United fan? Did I not rate Mascherano and Fabregas as my top two? I will take a free-flowing United over a turgid Liverpool anyday. I am impartial when it comes to footie analysis!

I am off to bed. Gotta wake up at 6.

I will say this in closing: Stevie G is undoubtedly World Class. However, I don't consider him to be a World Class midfielder. . . . . Its been 9 years of watching him get dominated in International midfield battles for England. . . . My antipathy toward Stevie G is solely based on his insistence on taking Lamps midfield spot (and the subsequent media witch-hunt of Lamps, to the point that Spurs fans jump onto the pitch to attack him). . . . .Its been 5 years of Stevie G trying to lay claim to that spot, yet no manager would give it to him (despite Lamps obvious unpopularity). Not Eriksson, not McLaren and not Capello. Even his club manager Benitez REFUSED to give him a central midfield position. . . . . . He simply lacks the touch-tight technique and positional discipline to play there. Therefore, he needs to stop his media campaign to get that midfield position. He has had it before (most poignantly against Russia) and flopped! . . . . . . He is somebody who should be given a free role to instigate counterattacks with his lightening pace and deadly shots. He is not a central midfielder, certainly not comparable to Lamps in that position, although he may be a better player overall.

BlueDiva:
Ibime,
EPL only, since we're talking of Stevie G and comparing him with those in EPL.
If you're talking 'bout other leagues, Stevie G in my list may come number 8 or 9

Best EPL midfielder is Mascherano cos he is the only one who can truly claim to be the greatest in his position in the whole world.

I rate Fabregas very highly, over both Lamps and Stevie G. Fabregas has been constrained by Arsenals tactical formation and plays deeper than the other two. I remember when Arsenal switched to 4-5-1 with Fabregas spearheading the midfield - and he scored 11 goals in 13 games.

Next is Lampard for obvious reasons.

I would not even rank Gerrard cos I do not consider him to be a central midfielder. In the same way, I could never class Kaka as a central midfielder. Gerrard goes against every thing that a central midfielder should be, both in style of play and positioning. It is better to compare him to second strikers like Rooney, Tevez and Van Persie etc.

Scholesy is the best over the last decade, maybe not now.

doyin13:
Hold on a minute. . .what did Hoddle achieve for country  

That was in reference to Scholesy. The English have always had a distrust of flair players (Merson, Le Tissier, Hoddle, Barnes, Joe Cole, McManaman etc). I have said several times that Hoddle is the greatest player England ever produced but he is not honoured in his own country.

BlueDiva:
Blue Divas top ten mildfielders . . .take it to the bank  

Essien,
Lampard,
Gerrard,
Fabregas
Scholes,
Ronaldo
Alonso,
Mascherano,
Arteta
and Hargreaves.

BlueDiva needs to quit football. Any midfield list with Ronaldo in it needs to be rubbished immediately. Ronaldo is not in the same class to be ranked with central midfielders. Kaka, Ronaldinho, Messi status should be reserved for Ronaldo. Even Stevie G should not be compared with central midfielders cos I do not consider him to be a central midfielder, neither does Benitez, Capello or Steve McClaren. He is known for having Sokugo wandering disease and often vacates his position.

Besides, where are Iniesta, Xavi et al. Na only Premier League you dey watch?


MrCrackles, if Gerrard is still playing top level football at the age of 34/35 like Scholesy, when all his pace is gone, I will give you £10,000.00. You can take that to the bank. Gerrard would sell his grandmother to be able to possess Scholesy's technique.

MrCrackles:
Stevie G offers a lot more as a midfielder than the good old Scholes and Hoddle overall

[size=20pt]THIS IS BLASPHEMY!!![/size]

WTF is Stevie G compared to Scholesy. Hoddle is a different kettle of fish altogether.

Are Stevie G's accomplishments remotely comparable to Scholesy or Hoddle, both for club and for COUNTRY

Please stop yarning nonsense!

MrCrackles:
IBIME

I know your allegiance stays rooted firmly with Chelsea so you wont be truthful even if the whole world proved you wrong!

Chelsea chased Stevie G relentlessly, didnt they?

If it had happened a few years ago, you wont be here thrashing him

He his pure class, so his Lamps and Ballack, but with the clock ticking, Stevie G still has a good few years in him compared to the other donkeys!

I think Stevie G should be more worried about the clock ticking than the others. We all know Stevie G is useless without pace! True ballers like Lamps and Scholesy will and have stayed playing long after the pace is gone.

Scholesy is the best English midfielder since Glenn Hoddle. I don't care what anyone says about Gazza or Stevie G.

MrCrackles:
Working socks off, he his on par with Essien and way above Scholes, Lampard and Alonso

My friend, stop committing blasphemy!

Stevie barely crosses halfway line these days.

Just because MOTD highlight any sliding tackle he makes doesn't mean he is working hard like Lamps and Essien.

I always make a point to check distance covered during matches and Lamps and Ballack were no 1 in that department, even more than Essien. The only difference is that they don't do it at full speed, since the ones who do it quickly like Essien and Gerrard tend to get noticed for 'hardwork' more often. I also check distance covered during Pool-Chelsea games and Lamps and Ballack always trump Gerrard.

Lamps is the only player fit enough to burst forward as an auxilliary attacker and still make it back to perform conventional midfield duties.

You may find this surprising but Ballack was the hardest running midfielder in prem last season and the season before. Ballack was a 13km a game man until old age started creeping up.

MrCrackles:
WTF is he? Does he sell spare parts at Onitsha market or what?

Shebi you said you play in Conference. You should know him now?

Arsenal fans seem to have an inclination toward deifying Stevie G (except the enlightened ones like Debosky).

Arsenal fans have never had a rampaging goalscoring midfielder like Lamps and Stevie G, thats why they fantasize about having a lionheart English midfielder. Those of us who are used to such players and have the ability to analyse his game know that Stevie G is too technically deficient to be a World Class midfielder. He is a World Class forward though, but he is a poor excuse for a midfielder.

MrCrackles, do you know Kezie Ibe?

MrCrackles:
He will be your tormentor in chief when they rip Chelsea to shreds at the bridge and then feed them off to the vultures at Anfield!

Mumu, has he ever scored against Chelsea?. . . . it is only against nonsense teams that give him space that he performs. . . . he is useless in a tight midfield. . . .his technique is too poor. . . . the last time I remember he scored in a Pool-Chelsea match was when he gifted us the winner in 2005 League Cup final with an own goal.

BlueDiva:
Now Steven G is no good?
Can't beleive this.
G is world class, i find it difficult comparing players.
Different teams, formation, mentality, coaching style.
Damn, Steven G is world class. . .take it anywhere !!

My friend get your ass back to Chelsea thread. . . . I will not have anyone speaking good of Stevie G. . . . Stevie G is Chelsea's mortal enemy.

doyin13:
But at the same time.  . . . Lamps isn't that accomplished when it comes to the traditional midfield role.

His claim to fame is his knack popping up from midfield to score goals, as is Gerrard's as well.

Difference is, where Gerrard bubbles around the field, left wing, right wing, centre, Lamps is disciplined.
He is too fat to run around like that anyway  

Sharrap dia!

Lamps is congruous with any midfield role. He is the fittest player in the prem. When Ranieri was manager, Lamps and Maka used to hold midfield by themselves - and he still got 15 goals.

Lamps has been playing on the left side of a midfield diamond this whole season whilst Ballack has been at the tip of the diamond. Maybe you didn't notice. I know you lack perception!

MrCrackles:
Now i know why you love slagging Gerrard off!
Purely because of Lamps i guess!!
Oh dear!

Lamps is my hero! Don't knock it!

doyin13:
Word. . . . can't knock Gerrard's buccaneering style though

Gerrard is not a midfielder abeg. He is a forward. He lacks technical and positional sense to play midfield. When was the last time he played midfield for Liverpool? 5 years ago? This is the crux of the Gerrard/Lampard debate. Gerrard has no business trying to claim Lampards spot. He should be focusing on Wayne Rooney's position cos thats where he is truly great - as a second striker. As a midfielder? Meh. Lacking in too many departments!

dayokanu:
Iniesta has got Nothing on Xavi. Xavi is way better.

Xavi is a killer sha. I cant lie. Both of em are great.



Guys, stop all this boring chromosome shit before I spill y'all drinks. Haven't you got anything better to do?

Iniesta is the best midfielder in the World today, bar none.

Who the HELL is trying to compare Gerrard to Iniesta?


YOU DEY CRAZE!!!


Khakhi no be leather abeg!

[quote author=~Sauron~ link=topic=247928.msg3628995#msg3628995 date=1237745762]Jamie Redknapp just named Gerrard the best player in the world after scoring a hatrick(2 Pens and one freekick).
The British pundits can be idiotic with spastic comments like such.[/quote]Jamie Redknapp has to resort to these stupid platitudes before Sky Sports sack him. 

2 pens and one freekick and they have started ejaculating again. It was the first thing they started talking about as soon as the match finished. It is requisite to extol Gerrard's virtues to the high heavens if you wanna work in English media these days. Kenny Dalglish says he cannot believe it took Zidane so long to recognise Gerrard as the greatest. Did I hear someone say Gerrard isnt overrated?

On another note, Martin O'Neil is tactically incompetent. He gave Liverpool's midfield the freedom of the park today by choosing to play Carew and Heskey together. You could drive a bus through their midfield. It is in this kind of open space that people like Gerrard thrive, and it is suicidal to play so open against Liverpool. Guus Hiddink will show the way to play against Liverpool!

Akolawole:
Villareal is beatable but dont forget Arsenal [size=20pt]worst match in this decade[/size] was against them.

Hehehehehehe. . . . . I remember it well. . . . Arsenal made them look like Brazil. . . . don't mind me sha, Im drunk.