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NoToPile:
What I don't understand is why should the deed of her father's property be with the uncle. Is it not suppose to be in the possesion of the children or wife?

Until men stop entrusting their brothers with documents of their properties, children will continue to suffer and their properties confisticated by greedy uncles.

Parents sometimes cause all these issues .

She was abroad while the Popsie was home alone. He must have given the brother after he fell ill

betterpikinn:
I'm sure you're still a kid. Probably a teenager and/or undergraduate...
Life will teach you lessons and experiences When you grow up...

Dey there dey act timid. I have a friend from Anambra who collected deeds to her late fathers property from a greedy uncle under duress from Police escorts right there after the fathers funeral in the midst of other family members. Property she sold for N30m within few weeks.

Carchoice:
The mistake you’ll ever make in life is fighting uncles/aunties over your late fathers property. It’s not a lost battle but it’s a waste of time and resources to me.


Leave them to do their thing. It doesn’t mean you are a weakling or scared but don’t fight over property’s with them. Just don’t do it.

Surprise them on the date of the burial by showing up to pay your last respect or better still you can shun it. Your father is dead already.

Don’t fight over property o!!! If they want to take it by force. Leave it for them and work for your own. You can always do more with the life ahead of you.

Only listen to this guy if the properties hold little value and cannot be sold.

If the properties are valuable, go to the funeral with Police Escort, and after the funeral, take physical possession of what your dad worked for to pass to his sons.

timbros:
While I believe Nigerians who grew up in Nigeria (ditto Africans generally) falsify their age in football, Kelechi's case is different altogether. He is a very "small boy".

Some people looks older than their age. Kelechi is one of them.

Griffon put Kelechis age around 25 circa 3 years ago if I'm not mistaken making him about 28 now

BLUELemon:
boss I got an alert from lordsuga
Is that you sir?

Yes, that must be my agent

BLUELemon:
Boss Ibime good morning. How's the week starting off

My agent is asking what is your bank name?

Please check your details clearly and respond with your name, bank name and account number again

I think we are all perceptive enough to know when a matter is really affecting someone. Beyond banter, I believe we are all decent humans at heart to understand when water done pass garri, so let's free our fellow Chelsea bro over this Atum matter.

OtemAtum:
You need a summary of the Book of Universal History? Okay wait for another ten years, by then somebody might summarise it for you.

Over to your apostle gensteejay to abridge it for us while we crack on with more productive pursuits.

elrony:
Well, not if it's written by a Costa Rican!

gensteejay:
Nothing of substance worthy of any response from me. When I see a commenter that's very familiar with the book, having read all of it (or most parts), such a person will post intelligent questions, showing they know the content they're criticizing well.

How can a person critique a book after reading merely a page out of over a thousand pages?

All knowledge and books are meant to be critically reviewed to know what's true or not. But critiquing things on the surface without first learning about what you're talking about (as most are doing here) is merely making a noise.

No substance.

In all thy gaining, gain wisdom.

Why should I spend all my time reading a book you claim is twice as long as the Bible and Qur'an combined when I can already see from the first page it is predicated on a rip off of Greek MYTHS.

If OtemAtum care to shorten it to a more concise book, I wouldn't mind taking it on holiday like any other work of fiction to be read leisurely while lying on the beach sipping daquiris and pina coladas. That's what you do with unprofitable literature having paid for the holiday with money earned from reading PROFITABLE literature.

elrony:
I hope y'all know that "Atum" translates to "my chewing stick"

The guy just dey use gensteejay head.

gensteejay:
Ok. Back in 2017 when I first came across his thread when I was still a Muslim, I also felt like he was copying things from various sources and combining all of them into a single book.

So I only managed to read the first page of the book then because by reading such books as a Muslim, most of the content will sound nonsensical since you've already have a set of beliefs ingrained in your mind as a Muslim.

But when I abandoned the thread, I followed different discussions of atheists here on Nairaland then, read various threads of this nler, Billyonaire (his account his now deactivated but he's a new account), read some other books recommended by musicwriter (another irreligious nler).

Using these sources and books, I did my own independent research to verify things personally and think about them critically (looking for evidence in support of or against a religious claim), instead of following what I was taught from childhood or the popular opinions of the religious majority, I became convinced by the end of 2017 that all religions are man-made and are political tools for mind control.

Early 2018, I looked for the thread again and approached it with an open mind because I had a lot of questions in need of answers.

For a year, I read everything piece be piece and got the PDF (without the soft copy, the thread will not make much sense as many parts have been deleted).

Now, without a particular religion or philosophy, I can appraise his claims critically.
Which ones are true? Which ones are false? Which are unverified?

There are a number of similarities in some stories with what's in the Bible, so a person can quickly to rush to conclude he copied all the stories from the Bible.

But that's not so. His own approach is more detailed as he considered the origin of each character (Yeshua prophets, etc.) and concept in the Bible.

He didn't leave out many things about the characters and concepts as we've in the Bible.

His own version of these stories is original. For instance, how did the name of Solomon come about (the etymology)?

He didn't just narrate the history of this person starting halfway. He took it right from his roots (parts not in any religious book).

The history of mountain Kilimanjaro in East Africa: He narrated how that term was formed (from 2 communities).

The term, Omoluwabi, in Yorubaland he narrated how that word came about.

There are lots of such original historical claims in the book you can't find anywhere in details like that.

It's one thing for an author to explain the history of a city, for example; but when he goes deeper to discuss how the name of the city was formed (the etymology), a reasonable person can't waive such claims aside.

There are lots of historical facts in the book. Since, many of the histories are about events billions, millions of years ago, an important question the reader needs to ask is, "how accurate are the histories?"

So, a reasonable person can't believe all the things in a book he reads since, as far as I'm concerned, no book on earth (including religious texts) is the ultimate or infallible or perfect.

Only by reading the literature (for people that find such necessary) and evaluating the claims critically by checking other sources, etc. can that question be answered. It will take time to evaluate all the claims in the book since they're very many.

Personally, having read the whole book and studied the Seriot language, I've seen enough reasons to investigate the claims in the literature, and not to shove it aside as a fabricated piece.

Leave story abeg. Your other sources are drawn from the same historical religions hence affirming the same circle of knowledge he drew upon to create his work of historical FICTION.

Leaving long talks aside, we can also use our intuition on the intangible aspects of his work. Your first redflag as to the charlatanism of his work should be to ask yourself why he converted his Seriot revelations into the olde English of King James in this modern age, if not to mimic other religious texts which were transcribed to English in the 16th and 17th century. Did Atum ask him to reveal all this knowledge in 16th century language? That already disqualifies the authenticity of revelation completely.

BLUELemon:
for the book? I don't understand

I'll credit you tomorrow

BLUELemon:
good morning... I have responded you earlier but maybe you didn't see the message

I have seen it Sir. I go pay tithe tomorrow

gensteejay:
Nice summary of a book with over 1,300 pages. Even Albert Einstein (if he were alive) would be proud of your speed in reading the whole literature in less than 24 hours.

By reading a page in a book (not up to 1% of its content), you've automatically read the whole book and can critique it. Now, that's interesting.

There are thousands of histories in the book. Otem makes thousands and thousands of claims in it. Can you show me where I said I believe the whole book hook, line, and sinker? Can you show me where I said any book in history (not even Otem's) is infallible or perfect?

Or let's even come down to the various histories of Faulkin (Yeshua) in the book: Can you show where I stated that IMO, all the histories of Yeshua in that literature are 100% factual and infallible?

You can already see his influences in the first page of the book. The below chapters for example are just a straight rip-off of The Songs of Solomon.

How you took someone just ripping off other religious texts, and combining different beliefs from Greek Mythology to Egyptian Mythology and came to present it as fact here is what baffles me. Earthum in his texts is modelled on Poseidon. He modelled Earthum (Poseidon) love for Earthus (Hera) on Greek mythology, where Poseidon was cheating with Hera after Zeus (who he has created as Nymphidis) tricked her into marriage. The same Nymphidis, he has combined to be the characters of Zeus with Jehovah. To add jara to his rip-off of Greek mythology, he even created Ephradite (Aphrodite)

My guy has presented a great work of art borrowing heavily from other religions and tying up characteristics from different gods into a nice literary piece of sci-fi historical and ethno-religious fiction. But goddamn, I must be crazy to start bringing these Gods like Faulkin, yESHUa to present as fact on Chelsea thread and actually believe it.

You can see how he combined Greek Mythology - Hera (Earthus) cheating on Zeus (Nymphidis) with Poseidon (Earthum) - and transcribed it into Songs of Solomon (Bible) below. I don't blame my nigga Atem for this great piece of work, I blame you who do not know the root etymology of these stories for allowing your head to be used.

otemanuduno:
CHAPTER THIRTEEN


THE SONGS OF MOTHER EARTHUS
1. Upon my bed do I weep for my love. Who shall console my heart? O my love, depart not from me forever.
2. Every day of my life shall I wait for to see your face. Come close to me and give me the kisses of your mouth. The liquid of your lips are like the taste of blackberry.
3. Come to me, O my love. Let the smell of your skin overshadow me. Let the hair of your head caress my body.
4. Come and take me away from this bondage forever. You are not like Nymphidis, who is a thorn in my flesh. Come Eartum, come and have me forever.
5.The earth without you is like the turnic tree without its fruit. It is like a head without the nostrils.
In your hands I shall be proud. I shall boast of being a mother only when it is with you.
6. Keep me close to your chest; let the warmth of your ribs be my shelter. Keep me in your heart and I shall dwell therein forever.
7. O my love, most respected of the sons of God! Tell your ocean that you have a woman in me. Let them be prepared for my coming because it shall not be long.
8. Tell the fishes and the phibioses about Earthus. Let them get ready for my coming, for I shall come not long.
9. The shape of your eyes is perfectly oval. I cannot take away my eyes from them. Your eyelashes like the hairs of a marf.
10. Let me feel the smoothness of your feet. Let my fingers run from your chest down your abdomen. 11. My long finger shall make its way down your navel.
12. Give way, for my love comes. He comes dressed in garment of white like the sun.
13. Respect! Respect! the preferred son of God is come. He rides on a chystosaurus. Cover the earth with the grass of tefron, for the son of God shall not tread upon the bare ground.
14. Lo, I shed tears for my love for many years and the tears of my eyes set before my sclera.
15. Then I saw through the water of my eyes that Eartum is only a yard away.
16. Swiftly I rushed to hug the love of my heart and give him the reserved kiss of my cheeks.
17. But when I got close to my love, all I see was a smoke. It was all a conception of my brain.

otemanuduno:
THE SONGS OF EARTUM
1. Let me remain celibate if the love of my heart is taken away from me.
2. The teeth of your mouth as white as wool. The hair of your head like the shiny anysx.
3. If I have my way into your inner chamber with my rod, thus shall I take your heart with me. I shall keep your heart in mine forever.
4. Earthus, you are a true mother. I long to see you in the ocean to take charge of all the beasts in the ocean.
5. Tarry not long anymore, for I have taught the creatures in the sea of your ways. You are the balance of the earth, this did I teach them.
6. Your statue have they set before their faces. The whales and the tergunis, they strove to swallow your image so that you could live in them forever.
7. My love, stay not long anymore. For I long to place my head on the soft pillows of your chest.
Let me put my laps in your laps and my lips in your lips. Let us play love in the wave of the ocean.
8.Let me pull your long hair and bind myself with it. Your skin is as smooth as that of the phibioses in the ocean.
9. I love your eyes that shine like the stars. Let us go over to the moon to play love. There we shall enjoy the reflection of the sun.
10. Let me release the content of my scrotal sac into you, for I long to have a replica of myself through you. I long to see who shall come out of your womb.
11. Earthus, in the dream of my eyes I see you alone, but when my eyes flashed opened, I found myself in the midst of the ocean all alone.

gensteejay:
Slaves that are supposed to be worshipping their dead gods in church are arguing on Nairaland with those who don't believe in and pray to any god.

So, keep forming different false stories about me and Otem, 2 irreligious people. What's a slave known for if not mixing up Allah, calling him Olohun and also calling him Jehovah/Yeshua? All are the same entity to slaves.

Now, the foolishness is up a notch by mixing up gensteejay, a former Muslim from Yorubaland, with Otem, a former Christian and historian from the Middle-Belt.

Guy, the Otem book is a great literary work of art modelled on the Bible but incorporating advances in science since then. My nigga even had his own version of Songs of Solomon.

While being a nice literary work which borrows from the Bible, Greek mythology, Ancient Egyptian beliefs and science, my question to you is why you brought it here to tell us about Faulkin, Nymphidis and co and present it as fact?

OtemAtum should be given a book deal and lauded for an outstanding feat of literary imagination, but you who believed and took it as fact should be flogged. In the words of Skimpledawg, I'm sorry.

The OtemAtum guy is funny. His work is actually a literary masterpiece. He has a funny way of taking what we already know about science and converting it into medieval religious narrative. See the way he told the story of the creation of Oxygen, Helium, CO2 and other gases

OtemAtum:
6. In my conflict with Nymphidis, I quenched his fire with my breeze and he was amazed.

7. He thought he had made unquenchable fires but I proved him wrong.

8. I have sorted out the breeze and I know what part of it can sustain fire and what part can sustain living beasts.

9. According to my findings, the part of the breeze which can sustain the beasts is the one which can sustain the fire.

10. I have observed the breeze in space and I discovered that they do not contain the breeze element that can sustain life of creatures like beasts and the homos.

11. I sorted the breeze into different parts. I had nine hundred breezes altogether.

12. Some of my breezes are colourless, odourless and tasteless.

13. I discovered a breeze which can incite laughter. I also discovered one which can cause deafness and blindness as well.

14. Some of my breezes are heavy while some are light. Some are harmful to the health of the beasts while some are not. Some smelled rotteness while some smelled good.

15. I have discovered that the breeze which can sustain the burning of fire is the same as the one which can sustain lives, but this is lacking in space.

16. The breeze which can quench fire is the same one needed by Chimides' trees and shrubs and all the trees and shrubs formed during the great bang.

larride:
Hundreds of thousands of years ago, there was Nuremberg, Germany.

He is about to create Raumdeuter in this new update.

OtemAtum:
Lol. I didn't tell anybody to yansh or not yansh o. It's Reverad that was telling the early beings the functions of their sex organs. Anyway sha, it's not bad to have sex, it's natural. But AIDS is real o, be faithful to your spouse as it is the norm at this period of time. The word 'Cheating' in a relationship is currently tagged as something evil in our era, so follow the norms of your era to avoid stories that touch. Nymphidis is Jehovah. He was a sex mania in those days, but nobody counted it as a sin.

OK Sir, but why did you also characterise Nihilist as a player-hater in the holy book?

OtemAtum:
1. I lived with Earthus for many days and I began to love everything about her. Her smiles carried the smiles of the ripples on the sea.

2. She was like a bird to me(as I later found out the characters of birds). Her voice was the sweetest I ever heard. Her legs were long and smooth.

3. I, Eartum, could not hold the urge to kiss Earthus. There has never been any kiss before. I did not know how the urge came on me.

4. I watched Earthus as she pulled at her long hair, which was about six cubits long. I came close to putting my lips in hers when I saw six figures like mine emerge from nowhere.

5. Eartum, dare it not! Nymphidis cried at me. The other priests with him are Chimides, Largas, Ephradite, Euchlydes, Murmoh and Chaleb. They were the flying ones I saw like objects earlier..

Godx:
Read the chapter 13

This book too funny.

OtemAtum:
Nymphidis is Jehovah. He was a sex mania in those days, but nobody counted it as a sin.

Chei!!!!

OtemAtum:
Ibime, pls send the money to BLUELemon on my behalf. Thanks.

As you wish my Lord.

BLUELemon you fit drop me your email as Otem commanded.

OtemAtum:
27. Every living being, the male Homos like you all, has two lives to live in two different planets. The shapes of the planets you shall exist in these two times are in your scrotal sacs. You also have right to make your own life with the liquid that shall be generated from your sacs.


28. When Nymphidis heard this, he smiled gently to himself and I knew the intention of his heart. Nymphidis, I called him before all. Do what you want to do, for no one can stop you from doing so

Holy Lord Atum, when you said we are free to yansh as we like, why it come be say na Nihilist come happy pass?

OtemAtum:
26. Knoliud spoke suddenly, but why are the shapes of the planets spherical? I laughed and said, thou art wrong, Knoliud. The shapes of the planets are no more spherical as you think. The position of the sun at the moment has given them their permanent shapes which is the shapes in your scrotal sac.

27. Every living being, the male Homos like you all, has two lives to live in two different planets. The shapes of the planets you shall exist in these two times are in your scrotal sacs. You also have right to make your own life with the liquid that shall be generated from your sacs.

This Atum holy book funny die oh. Bible and Qur'an just dey suffer us since, Otem talk say make we dey fire dey go.

OtemAtum:
Been trying not to monetize it, but people have been pressuring me to put it on Amazon etc. Maybe I'll yield to the temptation of money making or not, I can't say yet. But the history isn't up to 10% of what I have to compile sef. So patience is needed.

You are a true man of faith. Please where can we pay offerings to support your work for Atum?

OtemAtum:
14. You testified that you have seen what will happen in billions and gazillions of years to come.

Otem, based on this passage of your holy book, surely you can give us 20 sure odds?

Otem is a literary genius. Abeg who can underwrite this movie?

otemanuduno:
ADSPIRAMEN

Chapter 1
DOMINO REVERAD

1. I am God. I am not sure if I was created by the universe or if I created the universe. But all the same, my adopted sons and priests all call me God.
2. I do not force my sons and priests to worship me or serve me. They do it of their own free will since I am their creator.
3. My city was called Alkervum Auriem, which is by interpretation, the City of Gold. It came not by hand but by my pronouncement. The universe and nature work hand in hand. They give and take back because nothing is free in the universe.

4. The memory of my first existence has been washed off my brain after the catastrophic bang.

5. I lost my memory to the sound of impact while we were creating the chumorld, the clumoid, the world and the other millions of planets many millions of years back.

6. Thanks to my creature, Homo Tactilus, whom I have created to be my external memory.

7. He is the one I choose to keep memory of everything in the universe.

8. Homo Tactilus began to call back to my rememberance what I told him about the universe and my existence:

9. O my father, Domino Reverad, you said the universe came as a flash of light at the same time you also began to exist.

10. My father Domino, according to my everlasting memory, which you gifted to me, you said the universe began to exist immediately you first opened your eyes.

11. You said for long all was dark until the flash of your eyes brought out the sparkle. You said there was no sun in the universe, but you, Almighty Reverad, created it by your powers.

12. Where is your power, O mighty Domino? Where is your strength?

13. Your strength lies in your tongue and your power is your vision.

14. You testified that you have seen what will happen in billions and gazillions of years to come.

15. You said the universe is yours and you belong to the universe.

16. You created all things in the planets to live and die and live and die and live no more.

17. Enough! Tactilus! Enough! I yelled to keep Tactilus still before all my priests because they have all learnt much of my secrets from what Tactilus has mentioned.

18. Now come and live in me, O Tactilus. Dwell in me forever, for you are my tongue with which I speak. You are my memory of which I think.

19. You are my spirit and forever your abode shall be inside of me.

20. Immediately, Tactilus became a rushing wind and entered into me forcefully. There in me he remains until these days.

21. Now I look around to see the aftermath of the bang which I caused by great forces. I see many circles hanging in space. They are countless like the sands of the sea.

22. O Miklas, how many balls do you see? I ask one of my priests standing by and he said he saw just one and so supported his subordinates.

23. I laughed a great laughter that went forth as whirlwind because my priests are all short-sighted.

24. How did they see just one ball?

25. As for me, I see millions of balls hanging in space with bending creatures with tails occupying them.

26. That was all a result of the banging force.

27. Our father, we see not beyond our eyes. Give us vision that we may see.

28. I shall give you no vision above what you have, lest there arises a great commotion in this golden land.

29. How? They asked to know, but I gave them silence for an answer.

30. Instead of giving you vision to see afar, I would rather give you wings to fly around and explore all the great spheres yourself. Go and count them and bring me reports of what you see in them.

31. And so light feathers began to emerge out of the sides of my priests as I wished and they were all amazed.

32. The feathers fused together and became wings to their sides and so they flew, everyone of them to study the balls hanging everywhere in the universe.

gensteejay:
Lols, afi your holiness na

On this thread and in several places in his literature, he calls himself a historian, who is anti-religion. But you people keep associating him with religious terms, which he has criticized several times in the book.

Oga allow me worship who I want worship abeg.

He said he is a god. I'm allowed to worship any superior being to myself.

OtemAtum:
I am a Chelsea fan

Praise Atum!

No more Fenibeso on Chelsea thread.

You are welcome Sir.

OtemAtum:
I like questions asked in this manner rather than wanting to think that you already know what the BOOK OF UNIVERSAL HISTORY is all about. Revelation does not necessarily have to come through dreams, but sincerely I got things when my consciousness is out there in other realms. I see texts in my revelations coming with several unknown languages. These texts don't get erased. I see them and write them. I also go to other realms of the universes through lucid reality. You may be amazed to hear that the Brain of everyone hasn't done up to 1% of what it can do. Seeing texts is just one out of a thousands of things our brains can do. It's no big deal. Do you know that some people can taste sound while some can see numbers in their heads in different colours? You never chichunchin

Baba, can you give us the link to your BOOK OF UNIVERSAL HISTORY?

We are ready to bless your market this night.

OtemAtum:
I even watch champions league like my life depends on it. I love football die Every single human is a god, just that only less than 1% has discovered this truth. That's why many humans will keep worshipping past gods like Jehovah, Allah, Ahura Mazda, Vishnu, Moloch, Olorun, Eshu etc without knowing that these beings are not greater than they themselves.

OtemAtum which club do you support?

Can we conscript your holiness into membership of the Chelsea cabal?