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martinosi:
Dude which country in africa right now has troops in more than three african countries
doing USA/NATO's/The West dirty work Yes u guessed it Mr Museveni Uganda,

Ugandan Troops are In Somalia, Sudan, Congo, paid for by US/NATO/AFRICOM,

Dont be Gullible and Fooled President Obama and his Backers have grand plans
for Africa & getting rich, just that u are not included!!!

My guy, you might as well hit your head on brick wall. WE like Oyinbo man too much, anything Oyinbo na the author and finisher of our understanding, anything oyinbo talk na gospel. That is why the evil plan they have for our continent will always prosper.

I read this story in today UK daily mirror: the quote is 'Al-Qeada army' kidnapped and killed these 2 people
If oyinbo talk tomorrow that Bin Laden's sucesessor is now in Nigeria and Alqaeda is building nuclear bomb in Nigeria to target America, and they have to invade the country for the sake of national security. Do you think they will not do it? Once they put it on CNN and BBC, Nigerians will drink it as usual and will support the invasion in their millions

norrisman:
Museveni has been in power for 26 years, just 4 years less than Mubarak ruled Egypt. If Museveni wasnt a yes boy to the west, the story would have been a whole lot different. It would have read something along the lines of: Revolutionary; Joseph Kony fights evil dictator Museveni for the liberation of Uganda. The message from the west is clear, If you are an African, Middle Eastern, South American leader, you can lord over your people for however long you like as long as you tow our line. I'll give some examples:

Yemen - Saleh in power 32 years - friend of the West - protected
Saudi Arabia - Royal family (dictators) - friend of the west - protected
Kuwait - Royal family (dictators) - friend of the west - protected
Qatar - - Royal family (dictators) - friend of the west - protected
Uganda - Museveni in power 26 years - friend of the west - protected
Cameroun - Biya in power 30 years - friend of the west - protected
Equitorial Guinea - Mbasogo - in power 33 years - friend of the west - protected
Burkina Faso - Campaore in power 25 years - friend of the west - protected
Zimbabwe - Mugabe in power 32 years - enemy of the west since he took white owned farms - persecuted
Egypt - Mubarak in power 30 years - friend of the west till the very end when they realised the Egyptian people wouldnt give up - protected
Iran - Ahmedinijad in power 7 years - opposes the west - persecuted
Venezuela - Chavez in power 12 years - opposes the west - persecuted

Ask yourself one question, why do you not hear anything about these protected long serving dictators in the western News. I am sure you know the answer to that.

Co-signed. 200% accurate
And let's not forget brother Ghaddafi. Friend of the west for 40 odd years while he cut deals with them. Protected, until he started talking about African liberation from western influence and trying to implement the Afircan development fund so that we stop borrowing money from IMF & World Bank. All of a sudden he went from protected to 'persecuted'. Western media: He is killing his own people, we have to protect the Libyans.

ayodeji1:
Nigeria.its like a chinese movie with no english subtitle.the more u look,d less u see.the more u read,d less u understand.

GBAM!!!
Love this

[quote author=Okija_juju link=topic=889849.msg10362861#msg10362861 date=1331288544]So British forces carried out operation son Nigerian soil sanctioned by the Nigerian Government!!

Will the brits even allow a Nigerian soldier come into their country with his service rifle?! [/quote]Haba!
Dem be our colonial masters na! Abi you think colonialism don end. As Baba Fela talk, na Colonial mentality.

All Cameron needs to make the order and GEJ will just say 'yes sir, yes sir'

of course!
That was fast!
Of course arrests are made quickly when it's an inside job.
Just like 9/11, 12 hours after the planes hit, the pictures of the all the 'terrorists' were on TV and news media. All you mugus thinking eating up stories on BBC and western controlled media. This is no resue operation. This british guy is MI6, and they went in to finish him off as he may have very sensitive information. The names, pictures and details have all been prepared for the simple-minded before the operation to go kill this dude.

DRANOEL:
sorry to burst your bubble but unlike michael jackson,whitney didn't own the rights to most of her hit songs (read all). the rights are owned by people like r.kelly,alicia keys,dolly parton etc who wrote the songs!

agree! 100%.
Especially the bloody jew, Clive Davis, the man is smiling to the bank after Micheal Jackson and Whitney Houston died. They are worth more dead than alive.

Hope Bobbi Kristina will be wise though, heard she had some drug abuse issues as well. Whitney's parents should be her guardian and mentor her in the right way.

British engineer my yansh. These bloody liars, the guy is na MI6 operative, intelligence that was captured.
This is no rescue operation, they deliberately went there to finish him off, afraid he will spill some important intelligence info if he falls into the wrong hands

I won't say 'better'; the word is 'More complete'.
CR7 can do everything Messi can and a little bit more, like freekicks, headers, penalties.
But that does not make CR7 a better player, he is just more complete
It's hard to choose
If I have to choose, I will pick CR7

Useless Propaganda! As if it will change anything
The questions we must ask:

Where does Kony get his funding, how does he get all these ammunitions. You think guns, rocket grenades, rocket launchers are cheap? or you think they cost 500 Naira a unit. Kiny has no legitimate business or bank account to use for his campaign, If this guy has been fighting for over 20 years without running out of money or weapons and he is still paying the 10,000s of soldiers, that means he has serious backers financing their plan. Kony is just a puppet face. As the saying goes, If you want to find the mastermind, trace the money.

Just watched this video of a Naija pastor telling a congregation in Ghana that God spoke to him that the offering must be in Dollars.
I was wondering if God prefers one currency to another. Obviously, the currency is Ghana Cedis in the land, why would God require a currency that is not used in the country, and ask for a currency used thousands of miles away. Abi God dey run forex for heaven?

Is this biblical or is this man running a hustle on this people?


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Azibalua:
See what you are missing
If only you can see you will know that your current level is not where you ought to be,
Am sorry to say if you keep on like this you ll keep laughing whilst your boss keeps on soaring
This is one reason why he still is your boss and you the surbordinate

haha, I know this kind of mentality
I'll tell you of a personal experience in my office. Got this wonderful colleague Nnena, goes to Christ embassy in London and a faithful tither and 'sower of seed' and we usually have this arguement about to tithe or not to tithe.
last summer she got promoted to senior accounts auditor - when she saw me, she started bragging like ' I told you, God blesses tithers, because I tithe and sow, this promotion is my harvest, bla bla bla'
That same week, an email was sent round in the office, a french guy called francois was promoted to head of the accounts department. now francois is gay, married to another man, as in they actually did a white wedding, does not believe in god and does not tithe and sow seeds, and he gets even a bigger promotion.

I tried to explain to Nnena that she was not promoted due to seed sowing, but because the company saw she was good at her work and rewarded her hard work. Noooo, she insists her tithing is the reason for her promotion

when i brought up Fracois situation, and asked why someone who is gay and does not even belive in God. This Francois guy is simply a financial mindpower, absolutely brilliant chap and knows his stuff like no one else i know.
her answer: 'Even the devil can bless his children, but the blessing will not last long, it will eventually turn into a curse'
really
January this year has been moved to Paris as Financial Director for EMEA. I spoke to Nnenna told her, tithes have nothing to do with anything, if you know your stuff and work hard, you will get up there without tithes and sowing seed

The Corporate CEOs of billion dollar companies and enteprenuers - most of them dont go to church and pay tithes

kunlekunle:
what some thinkers said in America 250years ago

" And again: "These are the fruits of the legal establishment known as Christianity: pride and indolence in the clergy, ignorance and servility in the laity, and in both clergy and laity, superstition, bigotry and persecution." So said the father of our Constitution and Bill of Rights.

Thomas Jefferson: "There is not one redeeming feature in our superstition of Christianity. It has made one half the world fools, and the other half hypocrites." So said the author of our Declaration of Independence.

Are they useful to us today?

Another great quote from Thomas Jefferson, but unfortunately black people's minds have been so systematically degraded to see the meaning and think

Thomas Jefferson: And the day will come, when the mystical generation of Jesus, by the Supreme Being as His Father, in the womb of a virgin, will be classed with the fable of the generation of Minerva, in the brain of Jupiter.

kunlekunle:
what some thinkers said in America 250years ago

" And again: "These are the fruits of the legal establishment known as Christianity: pride and indolence in the clergy, ignorance and servility in the laity, and in both clergy and laity, superstition, bigotry and persecution." So said the father of our Constitution and Bill of Rights.

Thomas Jefferson: "There is not one redeeming feature in our superstition of Christianity. It has made one half the world fools, and the other half hypocrites." So said the author of our Declaration of Independence. Are they useful to us today?

This is the quote of the year so far!

Batam:
@ Poster, you are treading on the path of hell fire. You are happy that sons of belial like yourself are supporting you when the consequences of what you start today will come you will cry to God and he will join forces with your enemies to fight you. Nobody forced you to give offering and if with your so called wisdom you are still being deceived that means you must be a very big fooool.

It's better you stop this church criticism and discuss other trivial issues that affect the society as whole.

The usual tool of religion - FEAR

atasteve:
I challenge all the guys that are casting stones at Churches and men of God to stop being lazy and use half of the time they are using on NL castigating to study their Bibles from cover to cover then the whole truth will become clearer.

Talking about issues without taking time to research the concept/truth about them, has always being the biggest problem of black race.

Get hold of your Bible today and start reading then you will have clearer understanding then you will be able to talk without speculating.

You think we no get work? Study a book of fairy tales from cover to cover? Are you kidding me?

Look I watch enough fantasies and fairytales with my kids when they watch cartoons like superman, princess and the frog, bakugan, hercules, that's enough fairytale for 1 person, then you want me to start reading stories about talking donkeys, flying horses & chariots, 1 superman defeating 10000 army

[quote author=baby-boy link=topic=887366.msg10348210#msg10348210 date=1331118875]Read and digest (even download and save it)

http://www.ableministers.org/are_you_squealing_like_a_pig.pdf


Your words are like seeds. They have the ability to create death or life. Proverbs 18:20,21 says, “A man’s belly shall be satisfied with the fruit of his mouth; and with the increase of his lips shall he be filled, Death and life are in the power of the tongue: and they that love it shall eat the fruit thereof”.


I have learnt that If you sow a financial seed of £1bn and you have no faith, negative thinking, or no expectancy, Omo you don throw-away money.

But if you have faith as small as a mustard seed and believe, and a positive thought life and have a feeling of expectancy, you would get what you want, or the seed you confess with your mouth,

Last February for nearly 2 months I confessed every morning over a certain financial issue (ok a debt around £10000) and one morning I got a letter from the bank saying thats its been written off, That was when my eyes opened (its like I saw the light) , once upon a time I would be thinking should i or not sow that seed, in the end I would sow it, Yes I do give offering (thats why they call it free will offering)

but not by the order of a minister,[/quote]GBAM!!!
You hit the nail on the head. Before my eyes opened, I was just like you. Like 5 years ago I was looking for some one to pay my masters tuition fee, I sowed and sowed seed everywhere, went to Ashimolowo's IGOC conference, sowed and sowed seed, I remember Mike Murdock was preaching that day,  my uncle said to go to the bank and get a loan to pay the fees, I refused ooo, said God will come through, I have sown my seed and the harvest will come in due time (before deadline date to pay tuition).
Omo, deadline came and went, and i was even worse off and could not go to Uni that year. I thank baba God say he opened my eyes, I got a job, saved up for 1 year and paid for the following year for the masters without any 'seed' sowing.

its about time people just used common sense

[quote author=baby-boy link=topic=887366.msg10348420#msg10348420 date=1331120550]The first fruit does belong to God! the amount is your choice!!! you could decide to give everything or you could decide to give some of it, you could decide give a note to a begger or buy him/lunch or cloths or do something generous, its a way of thanking the Lord for your increase. but it has to be between you and God and you would know how much you want to give in your heart,[/quote]Since it is first FRUITS

Will God mind if I come with a basket of oranges, bananas, agbalumo, and tangerines. Abi God only accepts cash as first fruits

toorich:
@poster, what part of your bible you claim you know is against giving of offerings and seeds? a fool is one that ignores what God says in the bible, so you are a fool. if you are not a christian then desist from pasting what you know nothing about and let God be the judge.

put up something more intelligent next time that can help you out of your oblivion and misery.

I never said it's wrong to give. What I am saying is it is wrong to coerse and use tricks and schemes to syphone money from gullible people. I give in church only when I have, i give to red cross, I have 2 children in senegal I sponsor through Worldvision, so this is not against giving, it's against con and deceiving people.

So in your bible, God says sow 24 hour miracle seed, financial breakthrough seed, special anointing seed and all these false, deceitful ways of syphonning money from people.

If you want to keep giving your money, it's toally up to you, you deserve to be pimped, hopefully they get all your money, and when you dont have enough to live on and you go to your pastor for help, and he tells you to have faith and sow more seed, then maybe your eyes will open

Dipwater:
Idi I dey go open my own church and I ll introduce deregulation seed sow ur seed and go to the filling station with faith and ull see wat the lord will do 4 u

My bro I dey with you.
I will introduce 'anti-subsidy' seed. Thus sayeth the lord, sow a seed of 100,000 naira as an 'anti-subsidy' seed into the Kingdom and see what the lord will do. Everytime you go to the filling station, the gas meter will automatically default back to the price before subsidy for you. the person selling the fuel will see favour upon you, and sell it to you at pre-subsidy price, somebody shout alleeluyah!!!!

I know it's a joke, but there are people in nigeria that will for for this, as long as it's the man of god that said it

Danger Mouse, Speed racer, Superted and Voltron

Azibalua:
What do you think jesus was doing when he observed the widow give all she has, and did not tell her to take it back, or what do you think the prophet eas doing when he allowed the widow of zarephath to prepare all she had and adtill feed him after she had told him it was all she had left, how come he did not tell her not to bother giving him to eat?

Our offerings are all based on a principle, not on our feelings

Oh I see, so it's a principle.
So the principle we learn from your story of the widow with 2 mites is 'give everything you had to live on' to your pastor - (your rent, food money, transport fares, clothing money, children's school fees) and Goooooood!!!! will take care of you

I swear, I have to start a church in Naija if this is the mentality people have, easy money

And of course Paula White's 'first fruit' offering which basically states: Sow the first fruit to God, and January represent the 1st month, and your salary in January represents your first fruit, therefore sow your entire January salary to God as a 'first fruit' offering, so that God will bless the rest of the year!

haba, doesn't she except that people have rents, mortgages and bills to pay in January as well? or she just does not care? And people still fall for thse scams

goshen360:
LWKMD,

ANYWAY, I happen to know a lot of "SEED" and "OFFERINGS" name:

"Anointing breaks the Yoke" Seed Offerings

"273" Seed offerings: 2 is the number of agreement, 7 is the number of perfection or completion, God will perfect everything about you when you sow this seed, 3 is the number of Resurrection etc, God will Resurrect you finances. This kind of numeric connection seed can change depending on what is being connected with.

"Solomon" Seed of 1000 USD. Richest man's seed

"Firstborn" seed offerings for firstborn curse breaking.

"Covenant Seed" When you are in covenant with the man of God, Whatever God does to the man of God, same thing flows into your life. If people give the man of God car(s), people MUST give you car also.

I will add more when it comes to my mind, too much "SEED" offerings. But I heard Jesus say, THE SEED IS THE WORD OF GOD.

Hahaha, I know that one. if you they watch TBN or God channel when they do their begpraise-a-thon and they have these businessmen raising money you will hear something like: 'Psalm 8, verse 10 says God will enlarge your coast and multiply you more and more - sow a seed of 810 dollars if you want this promise to materialise in your life!
Because it's psalm 8 verse 10, automatically they join the numbers. why not 8 dollars & 10 cents?

Lets not forget the Matthew Ashimolowo 24 hour miracle seed, sow £24, and your life will change within 24 hours. And if you want God to move quicker sow a seed in the multiples of 24 - like £240, £2400.

I've seen this madness of TV, it's not a joke. I just wonder, what happens when the sheep sows the seed and nothing happens after 24 hours. Do they go back, and say 'pastor, that thing no work ooo, abeg I want refund'

I was invited on Sunday to a church by a cousin. After the watered down sermon,

pastor: I want everybody to sow a 'special anointing seed'. I was like 'is there an anointing that is ordinary?'

Another one is 'financial breakthrough seed'. My own sister has has been sowing this financial breakthrough seed every month for at least 5 years and she still has no breakthrough, and she has the guts to come ask me for money that she is broke. I just told her no, wait for your breakthrough. I asked her to stop giving away her money to pastor and that its a waste of money and will get her nowhere . But for where!
she will start quoting bible: 'do not be weary in well doing for you shall reap in perfect time'
Ok then, go wait for your perfect time.

Do you guys know of any other 'seeds' and 'offerings'. it seems they just make them up as they go along

[quote author=Okija_juju link=topic=887043.msg10339017#msg10339017 date=1331023358]@ Topic

This is very wrong. . .

And they are being forced sir. . Not all "force" comes with a gun or a clear "by force" statement attached to it. There is something called coersion. Most christians have failed to acknowledge the power of coersion hence the reason why they keep attaching the "Nobody is being forced" to it. . My own father have given out 3 of our cars to churches at different times. . In as much as I am not complaining and he says the "spirit" led him to, the truth is that all 3 times, he did it because he was coerced into doing it. .

Redeemed like every other church uses this same trickery. . They make a simple demand like this and ofcourse, nobody is being forced (atleast not with a gun). . But in truth, your mind has been worked on long before now to prepare you towards releasing this money. . Many people who would give this 50,000 would not even have it readily avaliable or it wouldnt be convienient to part with that sum, but because its for church, which means for God, they would, in anticipation of a reciprocative blessing from God, which almost never ever comes. . .


I'm sorry, but this isnt biblical. . . Its evil to say the least (because its not like the children of those who contributed towards the building of that school would be given any sort of discount/scholarship in tuition for their wards when time comes for them to attend the school. . . This is exploitative at best. .

Lets call a spade a spade.

What has a church owning a university got to do with spreading the gospel of christ. .


God, cant wait to Bleep alot of christians up on Judgement day. . . [/quote]Totally agree with your comment on coersion. What the members dont realise is that they are being 'forced' on a subliminal level. Not at gun point but it's been placed in their 'thinking' that God will not bless you in you don't obey an instruction from man of God. Anyway if anyone chooses to pay, na their money, there must always be a maga!

[quote author=Okija_juju link=topic=886839.msg10338788#msg10338788 date=1331020961]They are way ahead of the game now. . . With money transfer now being done with mobile phones. . .


This is what offering time would sound like. .


PASTOR: Offering time?!!!!

Congregation: Blessing Time!!

Pastor ; Ladies and gentlemen, lets bring out our phones and give unto the lord. Remember just "Text in the amount you want to give unto god and send it to 666 and you shall be blessed in Jesus name!!

Congregation: AMEN!!

Pastor: Each text costs 200 Naira and is open 24/7. . Remember, if you try once and it dosent go through, keep trying until it works. . . Praise the lord. .

Congregation: Alleluya!!!! [/quote] You people no go kill me ooo. Abeg I dey work, my boss go catch me as I dey laugh ooo

Direct debit na!
As your salary dey enter your account, 10% automatically transfers to church account. Another 20% in the form of holy ghost seed, building fund, passover offering, special anointing seed, breakthrough offering etc etc to be transferred shortly afterwards.
You no go fit fall pastor hand if 9ja goes cashless. they are on top of their game

why are you worrying yourself. Kids are all different. My son did not say a single clear word till he was 4, they did hearing test, neurological test and all, and said nothing is wrong. He never wrote anything either, but from when he was 2, he would take one of my novels and look at the pages for an hour sometimes without saying anything. When he started talking at 4.5, it was all at once, long intelligent sentences, and complex words. Now he is 7, his reading is 2 classes above his grade. All I am saying, when kids are ready, they will do what they do when they get ready.

I no see Bianca for these photos ooo, where she dey?

Oh, she dey lawyer office trying to get the lion's share of the family fortune

Died in his sleep?
45 years old?

This is Jazz abeg, they don do am for im sleep, the enemies of progress.

RIP sir

08-10/10/10: Rwanda 0-3 Benin

02-04/09/11: Rwanda 0-5 Ivory Coast

Bad pitch my black behind. Was it not the same bad pitch ordinary Benin republic beat them 3-0, and Ivory coast fire them 5 without reply?

Stupid excuses, Etuhu is worse tham Mikel when it comes to laziness.