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Kwon1999:
No No.

Dennis is from present day Delta state, while Osita from Anambra.

They answer the name Osadebe because they are western Ndigbo.

Not: some parts of Anambra are part of western Igbo.


That is the same way cross river Ndigbo answer Obasi.

By cross river Igbo, I don't mean Ndigbo who found themselves in cross river state; I mean Ndigbo who's land touches the river "cross"


Not: Mazi is an Igbo name, but it is only answered by Aros and Ndingwa.

Go and sit down.

Osadebey is a shortened form of Olisadebe. It's not a western Igbo name. It's an Igbo name born by Western Igbo and parts of Anambra, especially Idemili , Onitsha, Ogbaru. And we(Anambra)are not western Igbo.

Tranquill:
You forgot that environmental factors influence the languages and cultures of a people.

I remember Bianca Ojukwu's brother traced their family origin to Idu which is the present day Bini, where the Ikwerres also trace their origin. Do the Onohs speak edo language or bear their names?

Which Bianca Ojukwu brother? You mean Ngwo people in Enugu are from Idu? You don't know what you are talking about.

By the way, Idu is the name Ndiigbo call ancient Igbodomigodo, which was a cosmopolitan multicultural center with Igbo speaking people living in it as well.

YakubuAugust:
What evidence is there that Ikwerre are Edo descent?


And how did they end up with an Igboid sounding language and Igbo names?

Genuine question?

No one cares about their evidence or lack of it.

All we know is that the average Ikwerre is Igbophobic and now after Fifty years, the Igbo has had enough and we will return hate for hate towards these people whose Bini ancestors dumped their Bini language, borrowed ours, and distorted it to form what they call Igbo language today.
We have reached a point of no return with Ikwerres.

rummmy:
but the people you mentioned have their own language,only speaks Hausa as a second language but ikwerre don't have any other language.

Their ancestors suffered a type of permanent brain damage affecting language centre.
Which is why they lost their Edo language and had to copy and corrupt Igbo language to create the abomination they call Ikwerre language.
Bear with them.

Duru1:
Ikwerre language is Edoid. Ikwerre peeps have declared they migrated from Benin therefore they are Edo.

Very simple stuff.

They should try and employ Edo language teachers and change to Edo names as well.

Emyogalanya:
until a referendum says so

Which referendum?

Emyogalanya:
Yes simply because you are biafran and have no chance. Same thing kanu has been saying. Its not that you do not have the potential or capacity but that northern guys see you as a threat

Don't be Naive. Wike and Ikwerre people are not Igbos or Biafrans.

24SEVEN:
You used your first paragraph to attack my esteemed self, calling me worse than Igbophobic. Today Is Sunday, I need to put you in prayers for God's forgiveness for your blatant lies against my person particularly and humanity in general.


Ikwerre is not Igbo politically. But I'm sure Chibuike Amaechi means something in Igbo. I don't know where and how this Bini origin story became the most popular but in ernest many Ikwerre clans have different history of origin. Personally I can trace my own origin to Awka in Anambra. Some to Etche, Some to Aro, some to Imo state.


Pls, sit Amaechi down and interview him asking why he feels he's Igbo and not Ikwerre and hear from him. No carry another person matter weigh me.

Mr. Politics-is-about-numbers no dey deceive yourself oh. Some persons from Minority ethnicities have been president of Nigeria. All you need is your personality which allows for alliance and then excess money.

To think Wike wouldn't support Amaechi, I laugh.

GEJ had an attachment to Igbo throughout his presidency.
To be a Nigerian president, you need a full time support base from one of the tripod, and then reach out to the other two.
You know this, that's why you are trying to get an Igbo support base for Amaechi. So you fool no one. Politics will always remain a game of numbers and not sentiments.
We embraced GEJ because the typical Igbo fights for equity , justice and fairness, and we recognized the fact that GEJ and the minorities deserved a shot at the presidency.

No one in Igboland want to care anymore where Ikwerres originate from. After 50yrs of having to put up with you lots emotional blackmail and meanderings, we are all tired and have all reached our tolerance threshold. There is a limit to which a people can take being toyed with before they stop caring. As it stands today, Ndiigbo don't care about Ikwerres. You are not in our plans. You can however put this to test with Amaechi.

You are either Igbo or your are not Igbo. If you reduce Igbo ethnicity to a political thing because you believe being Igbo is a political liability. Then we would also play politics with you and ensure you do not profit politically from Ndiigbo.
If you chose to be a minority, then you must remain a minority and have to slug it out with other minorities in SS for a chance to represent SS and not cunningly try to gate crash on Igbo political cause.
Stay on your lane Biko.

24SEVEN:
I did no say I hate Igbos. i said average Nigerians have contempt for Igbos. I'm not an average Nigerian. Im a sophisticated entity. I don't particularly hate or like anyone. Im interested in quality and content.

Ikwerres are recognized as a separate entity. Yes. but do most Igbos ever consider that. No. They are always claiming Ikwerre is Igbo. Now that Amaechi has joined in saying he is Igbo, you now say he is Ikwerre. Amaechi didn't say so because of politics but do to his personal conviction. Cos politically Igbos are a liability. They are historical and real-time rebels. So Igbo candidates will normally be viewed with suspicion with regards to being biafran realisation moles. Nobody really trust you guys. Since 1999 till date, which serious party has presented an Igbo candidate except APGA.


Abeg 2023 still far. Later. Bye.

You and your Bini Ikwerre people are no different from other Nigerians as far as Igbophobic sentiments are concerned. Infact you are worse and you have exhibited enough Igbophobic sentiments here that many Igbos see no difference between you and Yorubas and are now accusing you of being an Afonja. Maybe you should ponder that.

Average Nigerian have contempt for the next neighbour. Ijaws in Rivers state see no difference between Ikwerre and Hausa Fulanis and the Ikwerres see the rest of Rivers minorities as non entities they can use and dump, hence the "Ntoor"! Tirade by Wike to Rivers people recently.

The Igbos recognize Ikwerre as confused Bini people. I don't see Igbos coming to Ogbakor Ikwerre to beg you to be members but you have your Ikwerre sons all over Ohanaeze Ndiigbo and other Igbo unions.
Your parasitic attachment to Ndiigbo is well noted and is actually the whole point of this thread. You are the ones attaching to Ndiigbo for political gains, now having been rejected, you turned around and said that Igbos are political liability.
Nigeria didn't start in 1999, so Ndiigbo and Nigeria existed before 1999 and will find our way through the murky waters of Nigerian politics again. What will never happen is a parasitic attachment to us by a Bini people. It will not happen.

No one knows Ikwerre without Ndiigb, that's why you are trying to attach your Bini selves to us, to present yourselves as mild Igbo. Amaechi and Ikwerre people are non entities nationally, national politics is about numbers and you have only 3.5LGA where Igbos constitute even at least 30% of the population, to bring.
Amaechi was used by APC and Buhari and now about to be dumped, because they realize he offers nothing politically as far as numbers go, he couldn't even win Rivers state.
Wike can as well bring Rivers state money for PDP to use and ride as well. It's non of our business as long as Ikwerres stay off us.

Nothing is genuine about Amaechi or any Ikwerre man claim to Igbo. We all know you lots were all brought up to hate Igbo. Amaechi anti Igbo antecedents in the past when he was Rivers state governor is well known, he has always before now refered to Ndiigbo as "they".

24SEVEN:
The problem with you Igbos is that you don't know the level of contempt the average Nigerian has for the Igbo. Igbos are a political liability cos no serious party will field a candidate whose immediate constituency consist of traitors and treacherous people. Every Igbo is considered a double agent.

You can't be flagbearer in APC or PDP, maybe in APGA. Watch out and see.

Lol! You have got serious troll.

Cry all you want, Amaechi or any Ikwerre person will never represent Igbo. It will not happen.
You are like the little baby throwing your toys out of the pram.
Politics have never been a game of emotions (love, contempt, anger, etc) It's a game of interests and numbers.
Ndiigbo have the numbers, a number which Amaechi or any Ikwerre man will never be allowed to profit from because you simply have nothing to offer to us in exchange.
You can continue your crying. It changes nothing.

IkwerrePikin:
Stop ranting online, Igbos have no political strength or acceptability in the Nigeria today, the ikwerres stand better chance than the Igbos when power comes to the South and the earlier you know this the better for you because an Ikwerre man as president is far better than a yoruba or hausa-fulani to you Igbos. Ikwerre don’t care about fighting the Igbos and will help the Igbos when we can. The only problem we have with you Igbos is that, you don’t respect our ethnicity, our history, our origin from the great Benin Kingdom, and the rate at which you people dominated and marginalize Ikwerre people and other ethnic groups in the Niger delta during Eastern region govt, and how you igbos killed a lot of us during the Biafran war just because we don’t want to be part of biafra due to the awful experience we had in Eastern region govt which was dominated by the Igbos from the House of rep to job opportunities.

Well with that aside, Lets do the maths: Between Ikwerre and Igbo who will win in a primary election here in the South?

1. Ikwerre (Amaechi) will win all the South South, South west and get parts of South East! If an Igbo contest with him.

2. But Igbo will only win South East votes and can not gather more support from South South and South West when an Ikwerre man is contesting with him! Kiss the truth. You’re not fully accepted in the South compare to Ikwerres.

Now to the North, Ikwerres (Amaechi) are more pro Nigeria and more accepted, loved and trusted in the North more than the Igbos. The North showed us love with the creation of old Rivers state, the North showed us Love with amnesty for militants and currently Buhari have settled all the militants that is why you see calm today. The north supported us when we wanted NDDC.

Wike recently renamed Aba Road to Gowon Road and Liberation stadium to Gowon stadium! We showed the North in the person of Gowon that we appreciate the support they gave to us in the creation of Old Rivers state frok Igbo dominated Eastern region because we Ikwerre people are simple, honest and not as greedy and tribalistic like you Igbos.

We Ikwerre people are trusted by the North, you can see how close Buhari and Amaechi is today!

You Igbos can’t stand Ikwerre in National leadership in Politics today! You will have no other option than to accept Ikwerre man ( Amaechi) and support him to represent you Igbos just like you supported Jonathan where Isaac Boro who fought against you igbos during biafra hails from!

It’s not by ranting! You can’t even win Primary election

Funny enough, you are the one who has been ranting.
And seeing as I have already passed across my message, I don't think replying your rants is of any more benefit.

Osagyefo98:
Moreover he is not basing his submission on such but subtly to campaign for his lord bullion.

I rather not waste energy on such but simply tell him to dream.


He will still get tired.

Amaechi and his ikwerre people is not worth wasting my strength on.

Well, I happen to have the strength.

24SEVEN:
We are talking about happenings in 2020 and this one is mentioning what happened in 1970. Did they tell you I was born in 1970? Mr. History lecturer!!

Mr Man, there is nothing like turn by turn because nobody gives anyone anything in Nigeria. Through alliance, things fall in place. I'm sure if one goes thru your post, we will see where you have castigated both APC, Fulani, Hausas, Muslims etc. Yet you want to ask them for your turn. You no need Biafria again?? Are you tired of it. Igbos seem to be dreaming. No more Atiku, you now want APC flag. come and take it na.. instead Yoruba will jejely rule and hausa again.


I don't understand why you feel you have population and you can't revive APGA and use that platform to advance your presidential aspirations. You want to APC after calling it Fulani party, Muslim party. APC kee you there.

Wike already has Ambition so PDP also no space. Let Ikwerre be in only 1 LGA, we will use Rivers State oil money and counter everything the Igbos have in store. We don already dey save our IGR for 2023 elections. We go use money mesmerized politics. We go block Igbo people well. ;P

You are all over the place. You came here thinking Ndiigbo will let you hijack Igbo presidency and you are now disappointed and are throwing tantrums up and down. You are funny.

Are you now Hausa Fulanis to decide who to form alliance with? Hause/Fulani need numbers to win elections nah. Ndiigbo have numbers. Politics is a game of numbers and interests not sentiments.
Biafra and Igbos political ambitions in Nigeria are not mutually exclusive. Neither is PDP and APC political power for Ndiigbo mutually exclusive. Mind your Bini selves and stop dying over what or who Ndiigbo choose to play politics with. We wouldn't be having this conversation if your weren't trying to impersonate Ndiigbo.

Incase you don't know, a version of APGA led by Okorocha Rochas were founding members of APC alliance.

Wike knows better than getting on Igbo way in PDP. He sure understands the game better than Amaechi and I respect him better because he has never tried to impersonate Ndiigbo. Instead he has been strengthening his relationship with his Bini cousins, from Oba Bini to Obaseki. I think he just needs to change his current Igbo name to a Bini one and his transformation will be complete.

Osagyefo98:
Well nice response but I believe that been onn nairaland for a long time should endow u with wisdom and carefulness to read in between lines.


Op remains a known yoruba and he created this account to sway minds which I knew the day he created the accounts from banned p2031 to ikwerepikin.

That been said he is only agitated howw tinubu was trashed and now trying to play on you guys psychology.


Case:


Why did the account suddenly surface
Why focusing single and psychological topic
Why insisting always skewed and sneaks away on historical issues because he can't stand any meaning he has no knowledge of such.


Not pro ikwerre who migrated from edo but what I submitted what I knew firsthand.

It doesn't matter if he is impersonating Yorubas or not.
He is regurgitating exactly what Ikwerres I know in real life do. I'm currently a member of an Ikwerre facebook page, and I know their opinion on this.
So he (who ever is behind that handle) will be used to send vital message to them(Ikwerres).

Yoruba impersonator or not. Ikwerre and Amaechi will not be allowed to represent Ndiigbo.
The message remains the same, irrespective of who is behind those monikers.
As you can see its immaterial whether the person behind the moniker is Igbo or not.

24SEVEN:
You are mentioning people who have no clout in APC. They are just there to complete slot. All those Igbo politicians have no connection in APC and cannot even make any ambitious politician to be concerned about anything. Tell me which of Ogbonnaya Onu or Ngige or whoever can so efficiently send jitters down the spine of Tinubu as Amaechi and friends just did. You know those ones are politicians who aren't ambitious. They are just praying that manna should fall on them. We are not in the least bothered about any Ignorant politician in APC. Them no get weight.


With your 5states you haven't achieved anything order than Senate president and that was because it was zoned to you by Obasanjo. Igbos in Nigeria can't deliver anyone.. so quit disturbing this thread. Ikwerre with 1 LGA and Igbos with 5 states no difference.

Ndiigbo already produced VP post Civil war in Nigeria.
We have handled all posts but presidency post civil war. The presidency will come and we will decapitate any confused Bini wannabe insignificant 3LGA group trying to play spoilers.

Amaechi is a nobody in APC, he has no clout at home or away. You flatter yourself if you think Tinubu consider Amaechi a threat. That Amaechi used Rivers state treasury to help finance Buhari election in 2015 does not mean he is a strong man, especially now he has no access to Rivers state treasury.
Amaechi is a nobody in APC.

OBJ didn't "dash" us Senate presidency, we negotiated for it with PDP using our numbers.

We will do same come 2023 if we see no support for Igbo presidency from other parts of Nigeria.
We will negotiate with the North for juicy posts and work against Amaechi or any SW candidate.

But what will not happen is a confused Bini people called Ikwerre and their politically light weight son Amaechi, coming to impersonate us in 2023 in the name of Igbo presidency.
It will not happen, so just die that idea. It's not happening.

I'm happy that now you know you hateful Bini people cannot be allowed to impersonate Ndiigbo, you are bringing out your real Igbophobic sentiments I hope the naive Igbos here who were falling for your treachery can see the real you now.
Igbos have no political clout, yet you were plotting to impersonate us. Thunder!

Tell Amaechi to retire peacefully to his Ubima hometown in 2023 or face disgrace.
Even if there is going to be another SS president, Ikwerre is by no means the next in line from the minority zone.
I believe it's the Akwa/Cross, and the Edo/Edoids.

Know your place, nwa Bini.

Klinee:
Oga shut up! I have mentioned it here in nairaland for us to be conscious aware of Igala indigenous people of Anambra, of which am one of them.
If you read the history of Anambra state it's well stated there, Anambra is not homogeneously Igbo, small portion of it is Igala.
Am a bloody Igala boy and a full blooded Anambrarian from NZAM, I be Onitsha boy too because that's where I was groomed.
I think I have several times in several occasions enlighten you and Juliusmalema about these but you guys do turned adamant.
We aren't foreigners in Anambra, neither are we migrants or slaves, We owned the land.
NZAM is just a few minutes drive from Onitsha, but because of river couple with bad road the journey may be delayed, I would have like you to visit NZAM.
NZAM is very nice town and peaceful.
There are many other towns that speak Igala here in Anambra about 16 towns

Nzam is an Igbo town that was invaded by your Igala ancestors led by a certain General Ajida.
Luckily, the Igbo aboriginals rallied back and retook the town from your Igala invading ancestors, hence the current King is of Igbo ancestry.
However the Igbos showed magnanimity when they retook the town from your Igala invading ancestors by allowing you lots stay in the town and be gradually assimilated as Igbos.

If for any reason you are tired of assimilating as Igbos and are only interested in your Igala agenda in Igboland, we will sooner than later send you lots back to Idah. Imagine your temerity as an Igala invader calling Nzam an Igala town? You don't see how you are abusing the privileges Igbo aboriginals of Nzam afforded you lots.

Better watch it. This is 21st century, the Igbo tolerance level for violent minorities like Igala is currently at its all time low, so that you will not wake up one day and find your loads thrown to you at Idah.
I know Nzam well. I actually have a colleague at work from Nzam and he is from the Igbo aboriginal bloodline of the town. Behave yourselves.

24SEVEN:
Look at this one trying to ride on Atikus glory. Can Peter Obi win PDP presidential primary?? . Be sincere to yourself.

Guy, Igbos have no weight anywhere aside APGA. You are almost nonexistent in APC and don't control nothing in PDP. See how Igbos are practically begging to be considered cos you abondoned your property, APGA, which Ojukwu left for you.

Ikwerres can't demarket Igbos. no need. All your 'sins' against APC will be revisited when a core Igboman aspiration in APC becomes louder. You can eat fruit of another mans labour.

When Amaechi was vocal against GEJ, all Igbos sided GEJ. Buhari won, it is Amaechis victory. So don't put eyes in another's hardwork.

Pls don't vote for Amaechi, we don't need it. The vote of the North and Rivers is Ok.

Ikwerres have no weight outside Rivers state.
Did Buhari win or APC win Rivers state?

Was Amaechi a greater disciple of Buhari and APC than Ogbonnaya Onu who has been with Buhari since 2007 and even served as his vice then?
OUK, Ogbonnaya Onu, Rochas Okorocha, Nkiruka Onyejeocha, Ken Nnamani, Chris Ngige.
Ndiigbo boast of more APC front liners than Ikwerre or Amaechi can ever afford. You are learners. We even have a sitting APC SE governor.
Amaechi worked against a SS (Ijaw) president, but somehow, you Ikwerres think SSners and Ijaws would forget this betrayal and vote for Amaechi?
Amaechi is a political liability, he can only win his 3.5LGA in Ikwerre land If Wike permits, his record in past Rivers election for APC have been woeful.
Any political party picking Amaechi as a front runner will lose before the polls even started. This is a no brainer.
Amaechi will not command SE votes, he will get no SW votes, and he is known as GEJ betrayer in SS, he will not get full votes there.
It's a lose-lose situation for anyone contemplating picking Amaechi for Presidency or even VP. Being from a 3.5 LGA Bini ethnicity in Rivers state, he has no electoral value as proven by APC failure in Rivers state since 2015.

IkwerrePikin:
If you think Wike will prevent Amaechi from winning Rivers state where Ikwerre is the majority then you don’t know we Ikwerre people in that aspect. Amaechi will gladly win all the South South states while the governorship of those states would remain in Pdp. We in South South are not foolish to disown our own, even Jonathan will support Amaechi! Politics is a game but you igbos take it too personal like it’s a tribal war.

Nobody is fighting anybody ethnicity here. We have told you Igbos we Ikwerre people are originally from the Great Benin Kingdom the Oba have acknowledged that in his visit to Port Harcourt.

If Rotimi Amaechi comes out to say he is Igbo, Yoruba or anything he likes, it doesn’t change who we ikwerre are, we can not trade our unique identity with Amaechi’s political ambition, we are not foolish and every ikwerre sons and daughters knows we are not igbos and will never be.

You igbos who have been shouting Ikwerre is Igbo on different platform, writing different books, editing Wikipedia and writing Ikwerre as igbo, you people should welcome Amaechi your son because he has declared he is igbo in several occasions. Will you now throw him away? If yo reject him as not being igbo i hope you can burn all those igbo books claiming Ikwerres are igbos and warn your brothers to stop going around saying ikwerre is igbo.

And let me tell you, if Rotimi Amaechi happens to get the ticket of Apc in 2023 presidential election, you igbos will support him, forget this ranting online because you people will have no other option.

If you support Amaechi don’t be surprise that Rotimi Amaechi may bring back abandon property issue in Port Harcourt and make sure the igbos who own them get their properties back because Rotimi Amaechi is a simple and honest man, he can also create good relationship with the Ikwerre ethnic group and the Igbo ethnic group with each other respecting it’s unique identity.

With or without Wike support. Amaechi is going to nowhere.

No Igbo man will support Bini Ikwerre or SS presidency until the SS have reciprocated the support we gave to GEJ and stand for equity by supporting and voting for an Igbo presidency. Luckily other SS tribes are reasonable, as I don't see any of them trying to contest for presidency in 2023. They fully understand it's not yet SS turn, the Greedy confused Bini Ikwerre people are apparently the exception. You obviously mistake Ndiigbo for fools. We will teach you lots a lesson you will never forget in a hurry. Just watch and see.

I don't see any Igbo man calling Ikwerre Igbos. It's your parasitic Ikwerre people who are all over Ohanaeze Ndiigbo looking for posts and positions.
Go and hold your greedy brothers accountable for few misinformed Igbos mistaking Ikwerre persons for Igbos. Your refusal of returning to your original Bini language and names is also confusing some Igbos as well. Rectify these two issues and no Igbo would ever mistake you for one.

No Igbo is interested in creating any good or bad relationship with Ikwerres of just 3.5LGA. You have nothing to offer that we lack. Keep your abandoned property, karma will come for you.
We will not support another SS or SW presidency. Not until SW and SS have first and foremost repaid us for the support we gave their sons OBJ and GEJ. Morally, objectively, equitably speaking, the next Southern Nigerian presidency of Nigeria must be Igbo(SE). If for any reason you lots (SW and SS) don't recognize this. We will team up with the North and ensure there will Never ever be a Southern Nigerian presidency again.

No Igbo will support an Ikwerre man for presidency come 2023, we don't consider you kin and we certainly will not have a Bini minority group take what belongs to us. If you think otherwise, then you must be joking.

24SEVEN:
Let me summarise for you: If Amaechi gets the ticket and you feel Wike will be a stumbling block, we are all laughing at you. We will allocate the complete electoral votes in Rivers to Amaechi.

SE Igbos will not get the ticket of either PDP or APC. maybe APGA. North do not trust Nnamdi Kanu people. Watch and see.

Lol! The trusted Nnamdi Kanu people in 2019 when Obi became the VP.
What changed in 2023? Let me guess, because an Ikwerre man is eyeing Presidency, Ndiigbo must now either have to give up our spot for Ikwerre Bini people or have Ikwerres try to demarket us before the North?

You lots are obviously still learners. The same Rivers state Ikwerre people have cornered power where Ijaws are crying that they can no longer breath? You think an Ikwerre man would win all the votes there?

We will see what happens in 2023. At least you have now played your cards and you know Amaechi cannot run on Igbo quota.
Let's see him try to sell SS presidency after 8yrs of GEJ presidency with Igbo support to other SSners.

24SEVEN:
What did those ones bring to the Table. Guy Igbos aren't fond of APC, the whole Nigeria know this. Your party is APGA. APC is Fulani party to you. So don't ask anything of APC and APC wouldn't give you anything.

Amaechi/El-rufai is the combo that works. una no go even see anything for PDP as much as Wike and secondus remain there.

Go to APGA, which is the Igbo platform and present your candidate.

APC has been controlling Imo under Rochas for 6yrs and now still in IMO.
Amaechi Ikwerreland and Rivers state is totally dominated by PDP with Wike and Secondus wielding the sledge hammer.

What exactly will Amaechi As APC presidential candidate bring to table?
He is on fight of ego with Wike, an Amaechi presidency will not be acceptable to Wike, so Wike would not even allow Amaechi win the Ikwerre 3.5LGAs.
Ndiigbo will not vote for Amaechi or any Ikwerre man, we would use this as an opportunity to exert our pound of flesh for all the denial humiliation Ikwerres and other Bini claiming Igboids have put us through.
Ikwerre will be used as a scapegoat and to set an example of what is to come in the future for other Igoids who think they can eat their cake and have it.

Wike and secondus were there when Obi emerged PDP VP last time around.
Politics is a game of numbers. No serious political party will pick an Ikwerre Bini man over an Igbo.
The other SS minorities are reasonable enough and know deep inside that it's not yet SS turn, Amaechi will not have it easy in SS states as they are also PDP states..

Just tell Amaechi to go home. God has tried for him.
8yrs as Rivers state assembley speaker, 8yrs of Governorship, and by 2023 8years of Ministerial position.
He is a blessed man. He should not toe the path of disgrace he is attempting. The Igbo impersonation game he is planning on will backfire seriously with Ikwerre people bearing the brunt.

If at all he wants to contest. Let him come out as a SS Bini man, and let's see how he can sell the idea of another SS minority presidency to Nigerians, when GEJ and SS minorities just had their turn not long ago.

24SEVEN:
Who told you Igbos have slot in APC ..

What does Igbo want with Fulani party.


Igbos should revamp APGA, a party left for them by Ojukwu.

And who told you Ikwerres have a slot in APC?

Ikwerres should go to their 3LGAs in Rivers state and know their place.
Amaechi or any Ikwerre man will Never be accepted to represent Ndiigbo or SE.
The likes of Ogbonnaya Onu, Rochas Okorocha are also Igbos and foundation members of APC.

Better stop your dreams, because it will end in embarrassment and public disgrace.
If you are personally close to Amaechi, warn him to stay clear attempts at impersonating Ndiigbo because it will lead to disgrace and humiliation.

Ikwerre bu Bini
Igbo bu Igbo.
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RedboneSmith:
Also you seem to have lost sight of the fact that my comment was addressing the suggestion by somebody here that they were not on their ancestral land and should pack and go back to Igala. I wasn't even talking of their ethnic identity beong recognised or not. Are Kogi people asking the bilingual communities to pack and go back to Enugu or Anambra or telling them that they are not on their land?

Yes. The likes of Ayegba Abdullahi had declared that Igbo speaking communities in Igalaland are migrants and squatters in Igala land and should migrate back to Igboland if they are tired of being Igala.

My message remains that until Igalas return or acknowledge those pockets of Igbo speaking communities and their lands in Kogi. There are no Igalas in Anambra but squatters and descendants of Igala invaders in Igboland led by the likes of general Ajida.
They would have to assimilate or concede the Igboland they acquired years ago through conquest by conquest too, and return back to Idah.

This is the position of Igbo nationalists on this.
And we believe it's fair.

RedboneSmith:
Do those communities you speak of acknowledge that they are Igbos the way this people in Anambra acknowlege that they are Igala? That is where the difference is. Because before you can talk about Igala in Kogi acknowledging the Igboness of these communities that you speak of, they themselves have to become vocal about their own Igboness. So far, they have not. They answer Ogbuefi, they answer Obiora and Enweluzor, but they do not identify as Igbo. They identify as Igala, or just simply as Ibaji.

It is singularly instructive that it is Southeast Igbos making posts and telling us about these people, rather than the people themselves telling us.

When they begin to identify as Igbo, and the Igala people want to stifle their Igbo identity, I will also speak for them.

You don't understand how these things work.
These people have been stiffled for so long that they are currently docile and just flowing with the tide.
Recently someone opened a facebook topic on this and a few of them came in commenting.
There has been active conscious effort by Igala to assimilate them.

If Ndiigbo did same to few Igala communities in Igboland, they wouldn't exist too. Or they wouldn't be confident enough to assert their Igala identity.

And you are all too well of Igbo ordeal post war in this country. Being Igbo in Nigeria marks you out for discrimination in these places, so people keep silent. Does not mean that if they are given the right environment to be themselves that they wouldn't embrace their Igbo selves.

RedboneSmith:
There was no Anambra State or Nigeria when their ancestors migrated there, and the land they are on is their land. If your father's land is there, please tell us, otherwise asking them tobio go back to Kogi is very nonsensical. If you people don't want them, go to Abuja and demand that their land be carved out and carved into Kogi State, not asking them to leave their land.

They are Igbo or bilingual in Igbo communities in Kogi too. Igala people don't recognize their Igbo identity.
Why should Igbos recognize Igala in Igboland?

Are you saying that what is good for the goose is not also good for the gander?
This was a thread we made about Igbo speaking communities in Igala. https://www.nairaland.com/3443446/igbo-speaking-communities-kogi-state/5

See how Igala and other Nigerians reacted to it.

OfoIgbo:
Ndigbo don't have to wait for 16 years, but I am not really hugely enthusiastic about those who are likely to get the Igbo slot.
I have no confidence in Peter Obi, Rochas Okorocha and Orji Uzor Kalu.
You well know the powers that be will never ever allow proper Igbo niggaz like Kingsley Muoghalu, Festus Odimegwu, possibly Soludo, run for such an office.
They will only prefer compromised Igbos who they can be controlling from behind the scenes,and by the time you know it, 8 years is up, and Igbos will forever loose the right to clamour for the presidency.

If Igbos are ever gonna get the presidency, it had better be by a competent Igbo man with no skeletons in his cupboard, so that the internal colonisers will not be able to twist and turn him, all in the name of an Igbo presidency.

I'll rather the SS holds the presidency, than the presidency going to a compromised and blackmail.able SE Igbo man.

People may ask why did I add Peter Obi to this list. I did that because he is a micro-manager and his style of leadership is not what is required in the presidency. After 8 years, he would only have succeeded in doing about 2 or 3 things, instead of 8 to 9 things that is expected.

As you rightly stated further in your writeup, Amaechi will strictly be doing the turn of the SS, and definitely not the turn of the SE, whether he sees himself as Igbo or not.

But we as Igbos must also be very careful in how we label Igbos in the SS. No doubt, Ikwerres have helped in making themselves suspicious to the generality of Igbos, but any of them who appears consistent in always identifying himself/herself as an Igbo whether in good or bad times, we must embrace such a person. We should not go throwing around the person, a false appellation he/she has already rejected.
The fact that the person identifies as Igbo does not make the person a SE-ner.

Well if you are rooting for Amaechi as a non Igbo and a SSner.
I have no issues with that. As long as its spelt out he and his Ikwerre people are not Igbos nor are they doing Igbo slot. In which case, the Job of Amaechi defense should be that of Ogbakor Ikwerre and Edo state people , not Igbo issues.
We shouldn't be picking a non existing battles with Yorubas over a non Igbo man like Amaechi and his Ikwerre people.
Yoruba as a majority and keepers of Lagos, remains more important for Igbo interests and progress than Ikwerre minority of 3.5LGA and keepers of relatively backward Ph city, they still share with Ijaws.

It's about time Ndiigbo eschew from sentiments and from presenting ourselves for easy manipulations by mischievous people.
Amaechi has never been consistent in his Igbo identity claim, he has never for once fought for a pan Igbo cause or stood in the gap against institutionalized Igbo marginalization.
He has never challenged his Ogbakor Ikwerre elders who remain rabidly anti Igbo and BiniPhilic.
Self deceit have never helped a people and it will never help Ndiigbo. It's time we faced the truth.

Ndiigbo supporting another SS non Igbo president in Amaechi, after supporting GEJ not long ago is political stupidity.
We must champion our own cause,Igbo cause. Amaechi as a SS non Igbo man should repay SE and Ndiigbo back for the support we gave his SS brother GEJ, by supporting Igbo and SE presidency come 2023 and not be coming out for us to abandon our own quest to support him again.
That's greed and wickedness.

Ndiigbo must not stand for that.

OfoIgbo:
If what you wrote above is your worry, then I think you are grossly mis-firing.

Ikwerres and other Igbo-speaking people in the SS, are in the SS and will take SS share. They are not in the SE, so whatever share they take, is the SS share, until Nigeria restructures, and correctly places every Igbo-speaking clan into one geo-political region.

If Amaechi is anointed by the powers that be, as the next president of Nigeria, he will only be carrying on from where GEJ left off. It has nothing to do with the SE slot which is long overdue.

Remember that after the SE claim to the Nigerian presidency, the next bloc with the next most powerful claim is really the SS, afterall they have only ever held that executive position for just 5 years. So if Amaechi goes, he will only be doing the slot of the SS, and not the SE.

So Ndiigbo will have to wait for another 16years after Amaechi to become the president?

Sentiments will be the death of Ndiigbo. SS have had their turn under GEJ and we supported them.

Amaechi and his Ikwerre people should wait for SS turn again and not Hijack Igbo turn.


Eze chukwu should campaign independently for Amaechi. He should not drag us into Amaechi personal battles. Amaechi defense should be the job of Ogbakor Ikwerre not Ndiigbo.
It's about time we learnt to mind our own business in this country.

OfoIgbo:
Amaechi is an Ikwerre man who is extremely proud of his Igbo heritage. I realise this may be a painful detail to you.

So is Amaechi the Igboman about to retire the SW almajiri tin-god? Let's watch and see

I would choose a Yoruba man over Ikwerre man any day any time.
Amaechi is not an Igbo man.

Madmohamed419:
yes ikwerre is a town in igbo land jut like abakiliki. awka , enugwu ukwu, nnewi just like that

Ikwerre is a Bini town.

Madmohamed419:
then pack your bag and go back to binin ur fathers didn't migret whit land ikwerre is igbo land get that onto ur head.

Oga . Ikwerreland belongs to Ikwerres, Biko.

24SEVEN:
we are one. I noticed you are scared of mentioning Wike because of IPOB.

Wike influence starts and ends in his Rumu Ikwerre Bini land.
No serious Igbo takes him or his Ikwerre people serious.
It was Wike who invited Gowon to PH recently during the state 50yrs anniversary and deified him. In that same event, he made so made mocking statements against Ndiigbo.
He was the one who invited Oba Bini to PH to renew ancestral ties but unfortunately forgot to ask the Oba to bring Bini language tutors along.

See a thread I made about Wike and Ikwerre some time ago.

https://www.nairaland.com/4232285/wike-secondus-vs-yoruba-pdp


Ndiigbo have nothing against Ikwerre. We are just making sure the Distinct non Igbo, but Biniphilic tag you fought for, stands.
We are on your side now. For years Ogbako Ikwerre and Ikwerres have been telling us that you are not Igbos, you are distinct, you are not Biafrans, you are Bini descendants.
Today we are regurgitating all of it for you, and because you have a greed driven agenda, you no longer want us to remind you about your own mantra?

Ndiigbo have never and will never be one with a Bini people. Ikwerres are distinct Bini people.
Where is Slowmir the Bini boy? Come and carry your confused Bini brother.

Get serious.

24SEVEN:
Are these all Nnamdi Kanu told you??


Stop peddling lies.

Funny enough, it's NK and IPOB that you can easily fool with this Amaechi and Ikwerre becoming Igbos overnight because you want to hijack the Nigerian President of Igbo extraction project.
IPOB usually have emotional ones you can easily manipulate to achieve your evil agenda.
If you know what is good for you, stop denigrating them. They are your best shot at pulling off this agenda.
But know this, they will be well countered and brought to a halt by Igbo nationalists who will not be swayed by emotions but by pragmatism.