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Sleek05: Excuse me. Pls I have just one question 4 all dose anti-trinitarians. Wat church do u guys attend? Because 2d best of my knowledge, catholics, anglicans, baptists and protestants all believe in God the Father, God the Son and God the Holy Spirit. So where r u guys frm? Cuz I never even knew anti-trinitarians are in Nigeria. Tot only d Jews and d Gentiles had such funny belief.

Ihedinobi: Nonsense! Honestly, I had not quite expected that gbrookes would make substantial difference with you guys. I think right now that he persisted because he hadn't dealt with people like you before. I've continued to follow the thread since I stopped commenting just to see what else is new. My annoyance right now is simply one I caught from gbrookes. Until now, I'd just been mildly amused by your increasing idiocy, nay, lunacy.

You have tried your best to make the Trinity a three-God affair. So far, you have failed woefully. Then you have tried to create a pantheon where there is an Almighty God, a Mighty God and myriad others. You have murdered and crucified Scriptures and damaged logic just to do that. Like I've said before, you can only pit Scripture against Scripture and rewrite the entire Bible just to make your foolishness true.

As a parting shot, that fool Boomark, who I see is still prancing about and preening like he has some exclusive revelation, has so quickly forgotten that your infallible JW version still holds Jesus as God according to Hebrews 1 especially verses 10 to 12. You really are a pack of fools.

gbrookes02: The Son who is Yahweh is The Father who is Yahweh messenger

All you anti-trinitarians are nothing but very sick, idolatrous, pathetic, blasphemous liars who twist words and scriptures to your all destruction, 2 Peter 3:16, and nothing else. When I was corrected on Zechariah 12:10 I admitted it, When we trinitarians present our scriptures and arguments to you all, most of them you all just ignored, for example one of many that you all ignored is "The Yahweh that Isaiah saw in the Old Testament is The Jesus Christ of the New Testament according to the apostle John, see "Isaiah saw Jesus as Yahweh (Compare John 12:37-41 with Isaiah 6:1-10)", and many others, you all also twist our words and the words of those we quote and posts. Instead of you all saying we don't have any answer right now and go and do your all research and come back with honest researched answers, instead of that, you all tell lies and twist words and scriptures instead. All you anti-trinitarians are nothing but a pack very sick, idolatrous, pathetic, blasphemous liars.

Zikkyy: I will only invite you if it's saturnalia type feast

Zikkyy: Madam plappville, you still dey fight for here. Anyways am seriously considering an Xmas bash this December (if am in town), you will be special guest (wheher you like it or not ). I will be inviting truthislight as well, just to show that people don't lose their heads at such parties. That appears to be his concern. Everybody attending will be leaving with their head intact

obadiah777: I RELAPSED. COULDNT STAY AWAY FROM IT. THE SPIRIT IS STRONG BUT THE BODY IS WEAK

Logicboy03: What?


Giving up already?


lmao

gbrookes02: The Father, The Son, and The Holy Spirit are all one Yahweh, and one God. Those are the names of The Father, The Son, and The Holy Spirit Yahweh, and God. So those are the names of The Holy Spirit.

Mr_Anony: But the bible makes it clear that the devil will be tormented forever in the lake of fire.

Adam, sodom&gomorrah noah's neighbours e.t.c were people punished for their sin by having their physical life cut short. They are wrong comparisms for an eternal torment that has been promised in the time to come (I'll touch on this a bit later)



Aha! the infamous translation battle. Before we continue down this line, I will ask you to select which translation you want to use for this discourse so we don't jump across translations and twist scripture. You can select two and we'll stick to them alone. So tell me and we shall kick off.

Mr_Anony: Interestingly, it is not weird to you that people can enjoy infinite paradise for all eternity for finite good deeds of which God had to forgive a lot of sins for that to happen.

Also, why would God resurrect the sinner only to kill him off again?

Here is the picture you are painting: A man commits all the sins he likes, r[color=#000000]ape[/color]s, tortures and kills but dies in a fire. On the last day, God resurrects him and essentially says: "You were such a bad boy now go back to sleep"

- You are mocking God's justice, you are trivializing it so that it fits into your picture of what you think love is.

Mr_Anony: Interestingly, it is not weird to you that people can enjoy infinite paradise for all eternity for finite good deeds of which God had to forgive a lot of sins for that to happen.

Also, why would God resurrect the sinner only to kill him off again?

Here is the picture you are painting: A man commits all the sins he likes, r[color=#000000]ape[/color]s, tortures and kills but dies in a fire. On the last day, God resurrects him and essentially says: "You were such a bad boy now go back to sleep"

- You are mocking God's justice, you are trivializing it so that it fits into your picture of what you think love is.

Mr_Anony: My dear Maximus, for this statement to be true, you have to show the scripture explicitly saying that Adam did not go to hell.


This is called special pleading. If the bible makes it clear that all sinners will go to hell, then I don't see why Adam's case would be special seeing that he also sinned.


All you have done here is project what you think Love is and then force God into your picture. You have only created your own god.

A loving God who "regretted" flooding the earth went on to burn down a whole city, drop down stones upon an army and have Israelites, Babylonians, Assyrians and Philistines kill off entire cities including the women, babies and livestock because of sin. This should give you an idea of how greivious sin is in God's sight.

One of the characteristics of Love is that it hates evil but rejoices in good. Love(God) is not that mushy feeling that you have. Bear that in mind.

Back to your op. If God is a God of justice, then He must punish sin. If God does not punish sin, then He would be unjust.
Hell - the lake of fire - is a place of eternal torment prepared for the devil because the devil sinned. The bible makes it clear that all sinners will be thrown into the same lake of fire.

frosbel: Sorry is it me going mad or what !!

1. God father is GOD
2. God Son is GOD
3. God Spirit is GOD
4. Father GOD is at the top
5. Son GOD is in the middle
6. Spirit GOD is at the bottom



Now looking at the gibberish I just listed, we have to conclude that :

1. They are all GOD
2. They are all Co-equal
3. But they are not really Equal, point 2 is a pretend one
4. They have the same name Yahweh
5. But the middle one who is the Son has 2 names, Jesus and Yahweh



Trinitarians you have just stumped me !!!

Ubenedictus: gbrookes just pasted passages refering to d spirit as a person, til now u ran frm responding. U have starte dodging again

Ubenedictus: that is y Jesus wasnt begotten in time, he was begotten from all eternity

Ubenedictus: stupid questions again, why cant ijawkid send papa ijawkid on errand, they are equally humans arent they?
Or like ur oda silly question, y doesnt ijawkid becom a fada to his fada? Y cant dey substitute?
Ijawkid go and treat ur headache, it is really affecting ur reasoning

Ubenedictus: d same old ranting, did d fada nd son nt sent d spirit?

Ubenedictus: kpele ijawkid, do u nid parasitamo? Take it easy eh! After u headache u may come back, wen u cant disprove and arguement u start making noise, dat idea wont work today. Gb just posted that d name yahweh was used by Jesus in d old testament u havent been able to answer.

Ubenedictus: hahaha, wen frosbel refuses to see d truth he screams nonesense! Stop screaming and calm down. Did d fada not send his son? Or did d fada and son not send d spirit? If dere is sumtin wrong in wat i said point it out, if nt y are u screaming?

Ubenedictus: they are placed in that rank accding to their relations, d fada is d head of christ and he sends his son into d world, d son didnt send d fada, so d fada come 1st. The fada and son sends d spirit d spirit is ranked third and Jesus 2nd.

Ubenedictus: sorry, u have to do ur homework and stop asking odas to do it 4 u.

Ubenedictus: where u sleeping since marwin? Did u nt notice d arguement that yahweh isnt a name exclusive to d fada? So d fada son and spirit have one and d same name. Did u miss that part of d arguement?

oiseworld: ofcouse God does not accept any kind of worship, not even physical worship.
The sacrifice of God are a broken spirit and .....

Psalms 51:7,16–17: 16 For thou desirest not sacrifice; else would I give [it]: thou delightest not in burnt offering. 17 The sacrifices of God [are] a broken spirit: a broken and a contrite heart, O God, thou wilt not despise. [...] 7 Purge me with hyssop, and I shall be clean: wash me, and I shall be whiter than snow.

You and I weren't there, soo we don't know how it was done. As long as they were broken, he done finish.

gbrookes02: The Holy Spirit is the third member of The Trinity, and thus The Father and The Son are the head of The Spirit. Since The Spirit is God He is everywhere just like The Father and The Son. And The Father and The Son have sent The Spirit to indwell the believers. Be honest for once and just admit that the information is too much for you to handle, that you are completely overwhelmed by it all. If you and the other anti-trinitarians come to know the truth it will set you all free.

oiseworld: what matters most to God is salvation, don't decide for him.

oiseworld: what matters most to God is salvation, don't decide for him.

oiseworld: you still haven't answered ma kwesion.
What did the bible say about xmas?
That the early christians didn't celebrate xmas dosen't mean we can't. Its even possible they did but it wasn't recorded.
you spoke about the addict, it has been proven that the best way of of helping an addict is to replace his addiction with something else. I would believe thats what the catholic church did. Replace the worship of the sun God with christmas. The heavens most be soo proud of such wisdom.

Oluwa4Sure: Okay, before I dream about the rapture. . . .

The previous night. I had a dream. But it was not clear at all to me(i will share it with you guys).


The dream I dream the previous night before this rapture dream is. . . .

I dreamed that I was standing on the base of a very big round pillar(like one of those that carries a bridge).
I lean my left and on the pillar and the pillar was in a very big river(extremely big river like that in CMS)
I looked forward, and notice the river was very black kind of. with engine-oil like stain on it and some dirty
waste nylon floating on it.

Later, I noticed the pillar started moving an to the middle of the river. And since I was standing on its base,
I was also moving with it. After some minutes or so, the pillar kind-of mover farther, leaving me behind in the river(I can't swim even in real life). So i noticed that I started sinking. I did not struggle or try to stop it.
Also, the position i took was a standing position. I sank to the extent when my whole body(including my eyes) was cover
in the water/river. I now that I can see inside the water, i notice the under of the water was extremely clear.
It was nothing like what it looks like on the surface. But the only problem is that I could not breath.

****** NOW I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THIS DREAM AT ALL. BUT WHAT HAPPENED NEXT IS VERY VERY STRANGE I TELL YOU. PLEASE BELIEVE ME IF YOU CAN **********

Because I was finding it difficult to breath, I woke up. There was light. I noticed that I was in air above my bed
say, like 2 to 3 feet in the air. This is not in spirit or any other thing o. It is in person i tell you. I got scared o! And shouted "FATHER!!!"(I was referring to GOD the father of course!!!). The next strange thing that happened was that, I noticed whatever it is that carried me didn't just drop me immediately. It took its time, dropping me with care so that I did not hit the bed. I was drop with great care. That was how I stop up and prayed o!!!




Guy, I know what I am saying sounds very strange to you guys. But I am a very spiritual person I must say.
I don't go to church though. But I believe it GOD, Jesus and The Holy spirit. And praise GOD a lot. I have had GOD
talked to me twice on two occasions and And let me say I have being visited 2twice by 2 Angels.

The first told me this on the road. "Young man, keep thanking GOD, GOD is about to do you a Miracle!" And he left.
Not to boast. I just want to pass my message across because I never knew I will be sharing this online someday. . .

Also, I have suffered a whole lot o! Left my fathers house at the age of 19. And have attempted suicide a couple of time(not proud of it o. that was when life became 2 unbearable).


So, I believe someway, somehow, I close to GOD. And I also know that I love GOD very very much. And can do anything if
asked by him to do so. But I am not a Christian(As in a born again christian). I use to attend redeem at one point in my life but that was a long time ago.


So, I am believing GOD have a message for me. How I wish I have a pastor I can run to. But I guess having peoples opinion on this will help why I keep praying for guidance.

Lastly, On 3 different occasions I have heard my name being called in the middle of the night(a thunderous vioce calling me. Like calling me in real life while I was fast asleep. And I could hear the voice in my sleep and somehow in real life while sleep. So I know whoever is calling me is calling from real life.) On the last occasion, the voice called me, it was kind of with a little anger. I prayed and begged GOD if its him to pardon me o!, because I have said, lord speak for thy servant is listening but no reply thereafter. . .

******
Please guys, the part where I was like 2ft above my bed. Please don't tell me I was imagining thing o abeg. I no be baby. Next year I will be 25. I know what I was. So it was the next night that I prayed that GOD should let me know what was that. That I got this dream of rapture. . . .

So guys, more light please. . . . . .


Thanks for you time

oiseworld: *when the US landed in the moon, the put their flag as a sign of.
*When shrines in local villages a destroyed, right on the spot of the shrine a church is planted. As a sign of a new begining.
*Why should d sun god be speared. And him and his days we sieze for our God.

oiseworld: and what is Gods command concerning chrismas ?