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Logic Mind: double thread
are the moderators on holiday?
or is it only Logic Mind they look out for?

D 2nd thread was created to run away from u and logic boy.....

Lol

logicboy: And what gives you the right to judge, Mr. Self Righteous, hypocrite?

That's ur problem...

I aint judging....

I'm saying what d holy book says and has prophesyed..........

Read daniel 2:44 if u'll like to....

The earths rulers and there chief ruler satan will all be destroyed by Gods kingdom....

If any right thinking professed christian knows this then,u'll know what's gonna happen to political leaders....

U dnt believe in d bible so I dnt wanna worry too much...........

Remember I aint judging,its just what it is brother.....

These are bible truths.....

logicboy: You're a fool. Never one day have I seen christians question whether Bush was a christian. This president that tortured muslims, went to commit genocide in Iraq and gave tax cuts to his rich buddies

Bush is also is not a chrustian.....

All of them aren't christians........

They are not followers of christ........

Name all of them...

From all d abraham lincon,bush's father and bush and obama.....

They are all satans agents.......

I am coming out plain to tell u this....

Non of there actions show they are christians...................

They don't preach about Gods kingdom...

They foster d worlds mentality and they are slaves to d ruler of d world not to God.....

Its like saying ceaser was a christian....


They'v all killed,gone to wars.....

They'v all engaged in selfish deals



They are never followers of christ....

You can call me a fool for all u like...

From d bible its so clear who these guys are and who they work for.......

I have told u to come to 9ja ,join ogboni and run for presidency......

But u keep running.....

U tink d world is what u think it is.....

D bible tells it all brother

logicboy: For all the "real" christians questioning Obama, how come they never questioned if Bush was a christian?


These 3 things make someone a christian

-going to church
-praying
-saying that you're a christian

The word "christian" has a very ambiguous and diluted meaning. To claim that someone is a real christian will run the rist of a no true scotman fallacy.

One would argue that the 3 things that I listed are not enough to be a christian. However, if you met someone in church and you sam him praying, do you have the audacity and the biblical grounding to tell your friends that the person is not a real christian?

Matthew 7
New International Version (NIV)
Judging Others

7 “Do not judge, or you too will be judged. 2 For in the same way you judge others, you will be judged, and with the measure you use, it will be measured to you

Oboy bush,all of them aren't christians.....
They aren't...

They r all masonic and controlled by d ruler of this world....

.......Satan is d god of this world and so are d rulers of the world......

All of them....

Not even one is exempted........

They are all like pharoah,nebuchadnezzar,ceaser all of them...

musKeeto: Whether prophecies are real or not, the fact remains that humans still have to play a role in its outcome. Hence the 'let's pray' caveat employed by these men of God.

As a nation, our 'God dey' mentality will continue to kill us. Unfortunately, mediocrity knows not innocent and guilty. We've lowered our standards and replaced them with bribes, and when we suffer the consequences, we then call on the Almighty to save us. As usual, the Almighty is forgiving and forgets our sins, so we dust ourselves up, get up and hurtle towards the next 'breaking' news... then the cycle repeats, blame, accuse, call God... and again, and again...

We need to start raising our standards or setting new ones where needed in all areas of our life.. you reap what you sow... a simple principle that has taken a lot of Nigerian lives.

TRUTH IS NO ONE'S SAFE... CHRISTIAN, MUSLIM, ATHEIST... No one... the ineffectiveness of our society will continue to haunt everyone...

Ur so correct.....

Corruption wan kill us then later we look to God when we in d 1st place never took precautions to avert disasters........


Like ur comment......

logicboy: And how do you know that he doesnt anticipate going to heaven? Should he live like a monk because of death/heaven? Ode

There are christians who support gay marriage also. Jesus did not oppose gay marriage. If everyone is supposed to follow old testament then Ijawkid, please be the first to cast stones at gays.

How do u mean Jesus didn't oppose gay??

Did he approve of them??
Jesus cherished repentant wrongdoers not some incessant sinners who proudly wanna wallow in there loose conduct.......


Let me tell u,if a gay doesn't repent b4 d end comes then he/she cannot and will not inherit Gods kingdom.....shikena.....its as easy as ABC

Because of world issues like the gay issue,engaging in wars, that's why Jesus won't even engage in politics,because he knows satan is already in charge....
If u want scriptures I culd put them up

If obama was a true christian he would have envisaged d fact that being d president of america wuld mean him directly getin involved with this satan ruled world....and that his decisions and actions can never ryhme with Jesus's.....
If obama was a christian he wuld have long read from daniel and revelations what's in store for d nations of d earth and .its .kings...DESTRUCTION!!!.......


Jesus knows satan rules d world @ d moment and that soon it'll be his turn.....

And that will happen when Jesus would destroy satan or rather satan cast out from d earth and imprisoned.........

Obama is not even a christian......

Ur even more of a christian than obama....lol

A chrÍstian dat doesn't preach d gospel isn't a christian........

I wanna see obama 1 day pick up a mic and tell ameriÇans that an end to d world is imminent and that Gods kingdom is what is mans only solution,not us govt,UN,and d rest organizations that hide behind the peace $ love facade,meanwhile they are so satanic.

D day obama tells americans that,then I'll know he might be a christian........

logicboy: So, all politicans are not christians? Epic fail.


Why are you judging Obama? How do I know that Ijawkid is a christian?

I am Ñot judging obama,but he just isn't a christian.....

Like I said our actions show wether we are not....not just talking,but acting d way Jesus would act.....

Does obama believe an end to all human governments is imminent?? Daniel 2:44

Does obama preach about Yahwehs kingdom

Does he pray for that kingdom to come

Does his action show he follows Jesus

Obama just gave his opinion on gay marraige......

Would Jesus take that stand.....

Logic boy obama is 100percent not a christian....

A christian anticipates Gods kingdom not human rulership

logicboy: Going to church, praying and saying that you're a christian makes you a christian. If someoene does these 3 things and you claim that he is not a christian, then you will look foolish because, these are the only facts that we use to say that Obama is a christian or other people are christians.

A christian is one who will act d way christ acted....

Our actions is what makes us christians not just holding d bible or praying....

Ofcus any1 can pray,but not all prayers are heard....

Obama is not a christian.....

He is simply a pseudo christian.......

If he is a christian he wouldn't engage in politics in d 1st place.....

Our actions is what makes us christians

Ea7

Ur so just wicked...

Has atheism turned u into some monster or what

Instead of u to feel for the victims,u turn around to make mockery of God.........

How is it Gods fault??

Ur sarcasm is gonna make u one day come to love d God u've been abusing.......

Ur just so annoying

PAGAN 9JA:
im just answering for the heck of it.

A Pagan is a person who adheres to any of the religions that predate christianity and monotheistic judaism.

U called christians follow follow abi


You nko what are u ??

Aint u following ya gods too?

logicboy: An atheist is soeone that has a disbelief in God or gods

If u can define an atheist that way why don't u jus define a christian as a follower of christ and a believer in Yahweh.....

Why be sarcastic

logicboy: I said, that would prefer to chage people's opinions before becoming president

I preach peace my dear bro logic boy.....

But I emphasize more on Gods kingdom.....

Because man will always wanna dominate man......

Not all persons are like minded..

I try to convince d few I can of a time when peace will be absolute,and on a global scale....

Let's face reality....

As far as humans rule themselves we'll never know peace......

U know what I mean...

I preach about d best and permanent solution not d shaky one.........

I wuldnt do bunkery,nor will I join in kidnapping nor engage in militancy...
That will not be christlike...

But I myself will be peaceful with every 1 around me.....

D niger delta wahala is driven by greed,love for money and power...

Those are traits of d ruler of this world...

And until that ruler is cast out d world will never experience what real peace is

Logic Mind: what do you mean black power? as opposed to white jesus holy bastard power?
slave colonial mentality.

You are a super slave to ur delusion logic mind......

Answer d question d poster raised and leave Jesus alone.......

Answer d question....oyaaaa

OLAADEGBU: Here is a thread showing the google map or is it a plan of Covenant University? How will you interprete those designs?

https://www.nairaland.com/131170/need-sketchy-plan-covenant-university

Is that for real?

logicboy: You irritate. You call yourself a true christian, yet you have no compassion for the suffering of your fellow people/tribesmen.

If hell exists, you will be there before me.

I love my fellow humans that's why I want Gods kingdom to come to solve all them problems....

Because ur effort,my effort can't stop mans problems or niger delta's problem...


Remember wen u said u won't come be 9ja's president.....u urself dey run from ur country....lol
Why?


Don't u get d point

And what makes one an atheist and a pagan

Ya both think ur d ones with senses..................

Right


So who's an atheistlogic boy answer that


Who's a pagan Pagan9ja answer

Image123: Cornelius was a centurion in Acts 10, he was born again and filled with the Holy Ghost.

And how do u think he must have combined his new found faith with been in d military

How would he combine d preaching and teaching work of which he'll be participating in with his military jobs.....

My brother cornelius must definitly have resigned to follow Jesus fully.............

Remember military guys are to protect there nations with there life.........

Meaning::::::::::

Protecting d preachn work and fostering Gods kingdom will be pushed to d back ground.........

Remember if cornelius still was a centurion after embracing christ he still must have gone to war ,killed persons all in d name of fighting for his country which was d wild beast(world power) @ that time........

Will Jesus accept cornelius if he did that

Remember killing is d issue here sha....

logicboy: Ijawkid, you have always been a doofus.


People like you have been claiming the end of the world since the dawn of time and you guys have consistently been debunked.


Since you are from Niger-Delta, let me ask you this question;

-there were two poor farmers who lost their land to oil companies and the corrupt government did nothing. No compensation. When the poor farmers had nothing to feed their family, they resorted to oil bunkering. The farmers and their families died in an explosion fro the oil pipes when they were stealing from it.

Do you really believe that these people will go to hell after suffering on earth? Living in poverty and made even more poor by the government. Yu will claim that they should not have bunkered oil but my question would then be what were they going to do with no income or education and their children hungry?

Oboy d world will never know peace until Gods kingdom takes over from mans in-ept,selfish rulership..........


Which ever way u look @ it humans have failed.......

They need to wait on to God to rule them........

D world and its desire will soon pass away and it will occur suddenly then ya doubting eyes will become clear............

I don't expect u to believe in this message.....

People like ya type existed even in d days of d apostles........

They never heeded to d warnings Jesus gave as to d destruction of Jerusalem .......

They thought d relative measure of peace. They enjoyed will remain like that,until d romans came and annihilated them....

Only those who listened to Jesus and kept awake that fled to the mountains.......

So logic boy its ur choice......

Believe an end is coming or not..........

But deep down in u I know u really wanna see all of mankinds problems solved.......

Ubenedictus: of course. Im certain they are part of ur kingdom hall.
we didnt need to sneak anything.
we never wrote that mary had sons, we wrote that Jesus had adelphos.
. So say the guy from the watch tower that has itown bible.

correct the immaculate conception has been a believe for 2000yrs it was believed by origen and other, (italo quoted somes) it was made a dogma in 1854.
hahaha the immaculate conception can b implied from scripture. But u need to learn dat the church existed before the bible not the other way round. The church canonised d bible and not d other way round.

Which church if I may ask??

Which 1?

Please don't mention d catholic church if not we fit fight......lol


I thought u wuld have metioned just 1 apostle or even Jesus ,if they believed in ya immaculate crap theory.....

Please mention 1 apostle of Jesus that spoke of mary's immaculate conception....

I dnt give a damn about ya pope.......

All I'm after is what Jesus said and what his apostles penned down.....

Not this heresy ur spreading....

If mary was immaculately concieved then we all are too.....

Who be mary?

Is she God

Abeg make I hear word...........

Ubenedictus: maybe there was a miracle. Besides virginity is not about the 'pussycat' hymen, a sportwoman will have a stretched hymen but if she hadnt had sex she is still considerd a virgin

Mary slept with her husband joseph after giving birth to Jesus......

I still can't understand why this is so much a problem for u guys.....

Ona just render joseph wifeless,since he won't be intimate with her forever...

So Joseph was just like a body guard thru out his life....

Just because u guys wanna worship mary,u rendered joseph manless,wifeless,and intimateless.....

Ona do well............

OLAADEGBU: Satan's Meeting
Author: Unknown

Satan called a worldwide convention of demons.

In his opening address he said,

"We can't keep Christians from going to church."

"We can't keep them from reading their Bibles and knowing the truth."

"We can't even keep them from forming an intimate relationship with their saviour."

"Once they gain that connection with Jesus, our power over them is broken."

"So let them go to their churches; let them have their covered dish dinners, BUT steal their time, so they don't have time to develop a relationship with Jesus Christ, "

"This is what I want you to do," said the devil:

"Distract them from gaining hold of their Saviour and maintaining that vital connection throughout their day!"

"How shall we do this?" his demons shouted.

"Keep them busy in the non-essentials of life and invent innumerable schemes to occupy their minds," he answered.

"Tempt them to spend, spend, spend, and borrow, borrow, borrow."

"Persuade the wives to go to work for long hours and the husbands to work 6-7 days each week, 10-12 hours a day, so they can afford their empty lifestyles."

"Keep them from spending time with their children."

"As their families fragment, soon, their homes will offer no escape from the pressures of work!"

"Over-stimulate their minds so that they cannot hear that still, small voice."

"Entice them to play the radio or cassette player whenever they drive."

To keep the TV, VCR, CDs and their PCs going constantly in their home and see to it that every store and restaurant in the world plays non-biblical music constantly."

"This will jam their minds and break that union with Christ."

"Fill the coffee tables with magazines and newspapers."

"Pound their minds with the news 24 hours a day."

"Invade their driving moments with billboards."

"Flood their mailboxes with junk mail, mail order catalogues, sweepstakes, and every kind of newsletter and promotional offering free products, services and false hopes, "

"Keep skinny, beautiful models on the magazines and TV so their husbands will believe that outward beauty is what's important, and they'll become dissatisfied with their wives. "

"Keep the wives too tired to love their husbands at night."

"Give them headaches too! "

"If they don't give their husbands the love they need, they will begin to look elsewhere."

"That will fragment their families quickly!"

"Give them Santa Claus to distract them from teaching their children the
real meaning of Christmas."

"Give them an Easter bunny so they won't talk about his resurrection and
power over sin and death."

"Even in their recreation, let them be excessive."

"Have them return from their recreation exhausted."

"Keep them too busy to go out in nature and reflect on God's creation.

Send them to amusement parks, sporting events, plays, concerts, and movies instead."

"Keep them busy, busy, busy!"

"And when they meet for spiritual fellowship, involve them in gossip and small talk so that they leave with troubled consciences."

"Crowd their lives with so many good causes they have no time to seek
power from Jesus."

"Soon they will be working in their own strength, sacrificing their health and family for the good of the cause."

"It will work!"

"It will work!"

It was quite a plan!

The demons went eagerly to their assignments causing Christians everywhere to get busier and more rushed, going here and there.

Having little time for their God or their families.

Having no time to tell others about the power of Jesus to change lives.

I guess the question is, has the devil been successful in his schemes?

You spoilt a lil part of ur post when I saw easter and christmas..........

Both celebrations are bad to d core and nothing can make the good.....

U can't seperate santa claus from xmas becos its what it is....

D pagan effect still lingers because that's were it came from and still is


Besides that ur post is great......

adebayo_erinle: @pastor Kun,using the bible as point of reference, did u ever try discernin the manner of relationship btw Jesus, peter and john? Was there any thin secret btw them? And why did jesus on the mount of transfiguration took just peter, james and john and ordered them not to reveal wat happened to any one? Is it that wat happened up there was develish? NO!..logically, anything being guided wit utmost secrecy has somethin extrordinary and unique which may not augur well wen diluted wit ignorance. And if I may ask, pastor kun, do u have anything u just always want to keep to ur self? If yes, WHY?

Ask urself.....

Jesus took the 3 to see d transfiguration,but we today now know all that happened.....

We read it frm d scriptures.....

Gradually those 3 gradually divulged thru d holy spirit all that they saw if not we wouldn't knw they wemt up there......

My point

After Jesus left incidents as such never happened again,and christianity became a religion for d public.......

If not why would d disciples move from house to house preaching.....

What is it u guys do behind close doors as christians that shuld remain a secret,and that who is not a member can't even enter into ur midst

Then is that christianity

handsomeness: Do you have any proof to back this?

Keep waiting for proof....

Ya tithe money dey for oga account dey yield interest for am.....

More jets soon....

Princewell2012: my brother I agree with you, each time I heard pastors and all those so called anoited men of God talks about peace in the world, honestly I used be suprise too. I don't know where they get there own scriptures, even our lord Jesus never said there be peace in the world, he plainly said in me you shall have peace, not in the world. I don't know how they catigorise it, in me you shall have peace, he never promise us that there is going to be peace in these world. Do you know that it is the devil that is rulling these world presently. Even the bible said so, you see we have to understand the bible very well. The bible is not a literature, that we just read it like novel, its is the Holy spirit that teach the bible because he is the one that wrote it. so no matter how had we pray sinse the wounded lion is still roaring, going up and down on the earth, do you know that he is still very much alive? He is not in the bottomless now, he has not chained and be throun in the bottomless pit, he was only chase out from heven, so it is only haven that has peace not the earth, that is why you hear all kind of news, war, rumour of war crime , all manner of crime, terrorist earth quake, you have not seen any thing yet, these is just the begining, iam not trying to put fear in you, that is what the bible says and that is what is going to happen, so each time our pastors are talking about I laugh because they don't know the scipture. You see some pastor or man of God as they claim to be may also want to give me another quotation where one prophet of is it ezekiel or so I can not remember vividly pray for the peace of the nation where you find yourself because for the peace of nation, you will find peace, now many men of God even the prominent one now capitalised on that, teling their congregations pray for your country, pray for the world. They formed a menber, united nation, peace keeping, allied forces , name it, christian association of nigeria and the world at large are also part of them headed by pope, who crown them with titles and honour, and yet the world are building more dangerous weporns that can destroy humanity withen a second, erac eran, russia suoth korea north korea isreal japan name it , you know them I know then, even america that claimed peace maker also have there own and still yet some body is talking about peace, now jeremiah or ezekiel who told isreal to pray peace, can you tell me when these country called isreal ever withness peace, they either fithing from one place to the other even right from the bible time and uptil now have they ever experience peace? The only time that isreal experience peace is when solomon is was on throne, and it was God that made it so for a purpose God said in his rein there shall be peace, and after solomon rein crises continue, old testament is the shadow of the new testament, old testament is the law and Jesus christ is the fullfilment of the law. So jesus said is what we are going to folow. And only him has the power to give us erternal life, so we should believe. All other prophet also speak of and are willing to see his days so my people praying for peace in these world is like turning our heart from God. Are you confuse? How do I mean? Does that mean we should look for a problem and cause no no no that is not what I mean, we should put our hope in God, be ready to meet our lord jesus when ever he comes, wash our self with his blood, be trully and sincerely bornagain, that is all, then let the world the world, because you are not part of the, world. In these world you will not have peace but in jesus you will have peace, may the holy spirit the you the meaning and give you the understanding of these massage. Those who have ear to hear let them hear. Thanks

Ur so on point my bro....

Imagine people clamoring for peace but producing more and more weapons of mass destruction.......
That's d greatest irony ever.

The only time we can enjoy peace is only in Gods kingdom when all swords must have been beaten into plows shears and spears into prunning shears.........

jmoore: Which of the Jesus, the one you said is not a God or another?

Next time you meet an armed robber, stay still and do nothing so he will kill you.




I don't play the games you are used to here for many years.

Lol......

I'm talking about Jesus d only beggoten son of Yahweh......:-)

When did I ever argue that Jesus christ is not a God?

I only argued that Jesus isn't Yahweh and that Yahweh is greater than he is..............
Shikena

musKeeto: If there's anything after death, I believe it would be reincarnation. It makes a lot of sense... in a sense, that's what guards me everyday, sort of my inner conscience... Christians call it the Holy Spirit...

Lol..........

So u mean d ressurection hope don't make sense?

U so much prefer re-incarnation.......

Hope u knw d re-incarnation theory says 1 can re-incarnate into an animal too.....lol

Make u no go re-incarnate to goat in ya next life oooo....lol...

Ressurection into everlasting life sounds d best............

What do u think?

Ubenedictus: good question. Some people dont see a difference btw protecting and killing.

The question as christians that both of u shuld have asked is what will Jesus do

I thought we had a master we follow closely.....


So u mean d soldiers that went to iraq were protecting lives

So those who fought d world wars and our local biafra war too were protecting lives.........

Jesus said any who kills would get killed in return.......

My point is put Jesus's example and principle ahead of this ur protection theory.....

If Jesus had ur mentality he wuld never had died for any of us......

Peter tried defending his master,d same theory u guys are fostering,but Jesus rebuked him with those words........


Now I see why d world will never knw peace.....


Because professed christians join in d worlds wars and killings and think they are doing d right thing........


Again the question u shuld ask is ""WHAT WILL JESUS DO""

Can we stick to Jesus's principle and stop being presumpteous

musKeeto: My end is death.....
And I hope to live a lasting legacy before I die..

So to you this life is all there is?


How do u tend to live a lasting legacy when u dnt believe in forever.....

Who do u expect to follow up ya legacy

The thought of living forever is something that has been implanted in man......

musKeeto: So therefore all the trouble in Nigeria is god ordained?


what foolishness...

Just know an end is imminent.........

Don't u want an end

If we read 1thesselonians 5;2-4

New King James Version (NKJV)
2 For you yourselves know perfectly that the
day of the Lord so comes as a thief in the
night. 3 For when they say, “Peace and safety!”
then sudden destruction comes upon them, as
labor pains upon a pregnant woman. And they
shall not escape. 4 But you, brethren, are not
in darkness, so that this Day should overtake
you as a thief.

I was surprised to know that when many seek or struggle for absolute peace in this satan ruled world devoid of the thought of Gods kingdom as d only avenue to worlds peace,then it shows the end is near..
Many religious leaders,political leaders and also organisations feel and think world peace can be achieved by humans..little do they know that d ruler of this world is still on rampage..
Its weightless effort when we think peace $ security can be achieved by humans when satan still rules d world..

Also some feel that since d nations they belong to enjoy some form of relative peace,then all is well....and so they become so relaxed that that day takes them unaware

1thesselonians tells us that those who have such mentality will soon experience sudden destruction and there'll be no escape for such ones...

But for any who understands d scriptures would know no human parastatal can bring about world peace but Yahwehs kingdom with his son as king designate..

So when we hear them say "" peace $ security"" we shuld know we are living @ d time of the end....

If we read 1thesselonians 5;2-4

New King James Version (NKJV)
2 For you yourselves know perfectly that the
day of the Lord so comes as a thief in the
night. 3 For when they say, “Peace and safety!”
then sudden destruction comes upon them, as
labor pains upon a pregnant woman. And they
shall not escape. 4 But you, brethren, are not
in darkness, so that this Day should overtake
you as a thief.

I was surprised to know that when many seek or struggle for absolute peace in this satan ruled world devoid of the thought of Gods kingdom as d only avenue to worlds peace,then it shows the end is near..
Many religious leaders,political leaders and also organisations feel and think world peace can be achieved by humans..little do they know that d ruler of this world is still on rampage..
Its weightless effort when we think peace $ security can be achieved by humans when satan still rules d world..

1thesselonians tells us that those who have that mentality will soon experience sudden destruction and there'll be no escape for such ones...

But for any who understands d scriptures would know no human parastatal can bring about world peace but Yahwehs kingdom with his son as king designate..

So when we hear them say "" peace $ security"" we shuld know we are living @ d time of the end....