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Christianity EtcRe: Christ Is Head by ijawkid(m): 11:40pm On Jan 21, 2013
Bidam: Now let us look at the phrase “sat down on the right hand of the Majesty on high” . Who is Jesus sitting next to here? How can one sit next to “Majesty on high”?


Mark 14:62
62 And Jesus said, I AM: and ye shall see the Son of man sitting on the right hand of power, and coming in the clouds of heaven.


How can one sit next to “the right hand of power”? The fact is Jesus sat down forever as God with all power and authority. Remember, it is not about location or position.




Isa 66:1
66:1 Thus saith the LORD, The heaven is my throne, and the earth is my footstool: where is the house that ye build unto me? and where is the place of my rest?


If God is omnipresent how then can you sit down on His right side? If God is a Spirit how then can one sit down on the right side of Him? If it possible to sit on the right side of God as a position then we must say that God is not everywhere but that He is limited to space, that He is confined to a certain amount of height and depth. Is God limited to a certain amount of height and depth? I say not!


Because God is an omnipresent Spirit He does not “sit” as we do on a physical throne. The Heaven is His throne. In other words in the universe He sits and reigns, there is no place where He isn’t.

Jesus Christ sat down with all power as Almighty God on the throne by Himself.



The term “sat down” leads us to more understanding of these passages. In understanding the sacrificing of the priests they were not allowed at any time to sit in the Holy place where the sacrificing was done. There was no place to sit. The reason for this is that their sacrificing was never finished. The sins of the people were only pushed ahead another year. When Jesus became our final sacrifice, He at the same time being the high priest, forever sat down as God ending all sacrifices!

So we see the subject is not about how many are sitting on the throne of God but about Jesus sitting down as the almighty God after the final sacrifice!

The term “the almighty” is used 44 times in the Bible. The last verse referring to the almighty is Jesus claiming to be the almighty. How many almighties do we have? Only one and He Jesus, sits on the throne alone!



Rev 1:8
8 I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the ending, saith the Lord, which is, and which was, and which is to come, the Almighty.


Luke 11:20
20 But if I with the finger of God cast out devils, no doubt the kingdom of God is come upon you.



The term “ the finger of God” can be taken literally but again God wants us to understand His great power and authority. Do you think Jesus reached into people’s lives and literally pluck out demons with His finger? A more clear understanding is that God doesn’t even need a whole hand to cast out demons. In a figurative way of speaking God only needs a finger to cast out the devil! The devil is no match for God!
i cant believe you would twist mark 14:62 and revelation 1:8 to mean Jesus was the almighty God sitting on the throne and not Jesus sitting at Gods right hand....even when you know that what you've written is a complete lie and against the scriptures......why didnt you read revelation 1:1?? fraud like you....let me quote these familiar scriptures to you so that you can start thinking well.......

daniel 7:13-14


13 “I was watching in the night visions,
And behold, One like the Son of Man,
Coming with the clouds of heaven!
He came to the Ancient of Days,
And they brought Him near before Him.
14 Then to Him was given dominion and glory and a kingdom,
That all peoples, nations, and languages should serve Him.
His dominion is an everlasting dominion,
Which shall not pass away,
And His kingdom the one
Which shall not be destroyed
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stephens vision............
Acts 7:56
King James Version (KJV)
56 And said, Behold, I see the heavens opened, and the Son of man standing on the right hand of God

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Hebrews 10:12-13
King James Version (KJV)
12 But this man, after he had offered one sacrifice for sins for ever, sat down on the right hand of God;

13 From henceforth expecting till his enemies be made his footstool

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1 Corinthians 15:24-28
King James Version (KJV)
24 Then cometh the end, when he shall have delivered up the kingdom to God, even the Father; when he shall have put down all rule and all authority and power.

25 For he must reign, till he hath put all enemies under his feet.

26 The last enemy that shall be destroyed is death.

27 For he hath put all things under his feet. But when he saith all things are put under him, it is manifest that he is excepted, which did put all things under him.

28 And when all things shall be subdued unto him, then shall the Son also himself be subject unto him that put all things under him, that God may be all in all
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only a fraud like BIDAM would choose to believe that it is Christ that is sitted on the throne and not at the right hand of his GOD and FATHER.......

BIDAM open your eyes and read daniel 7:13-14 and learn what the bible really teaches and not the hogwash you are spreading on this page........Jesus having gained access to the ancient of days(Yahweh) and sitted AT THE RIGHT hand of GOD was given rulership and power by his GOD to rule and later to hand over that kingdom to the one who gave it to him.........for you to open your mouth and say Jesus is the almighty even when scriptures are dancing in front of you ,then i have no option but to tell you you are finished.....the trinity has completely deluded you.....
Christianity EtcRe: Christ Is Head by ijawkid(m): 6:50pm On Jan 21, 2013
i.chuka:
He emptied Himself of His divinity and took the Very nature of a SERVANT,BEING MADE IN HUMAN LIKENESS......Philphn2:7.
Then APPEARED AS A MAN..verse8.
Since He's now a MAN...1.Yes,He can die..2.Yes,He can be tempted,and because He took the very nature of a SERVANT,YES His Master/His Divinity He left in Heaven is greater than He is.
4.His Divinity in Heaven is still incharge.
He abandoned his divinity and took a slaves form but you're the same persons who uphold the spurious rendering of 1 timothy 3:16 that GOD himself came in flesh........that's the height of contradiction.........choose one and leave the other........how can Jesus be a servant to himself??....i-chuka you guys have gone mental......grin......

It was the superior and GOD of Jessus that sent Christ down to the earth.......Yahweh and Christ are 2 different distinct persons...................

Did you read john 17:3 @ all??.....smh,,,,,,
Christianity EtcRe: One Of King Solomon's Wives Was From Ogun State, Nigeria. True Or False? by ijawkid(m): 2:43pm On Jan 21, 2013
obadiah777: OK I MAY HAVE SPPOKEN TOO SOON BUT I HAVE BEEN WAITING TO SLAP SOME SENSE INTO YOU J12. SO WHAT IS YOUR POSITION AGAIN. ARE YOU SAYING THE EGYPTIAN BOOK OF THE DEAD IS PLAGIARIZED FROM THE HEBREWS AND IS NOT AN ORIGINAL WORK OR ARE YOU ACTUALLY AGREEING THAT THE BIBLE WAS COPIED FROM THE EGYPTIAN BOOK OF THE DEAD ? STATE YOUR POSITION CLEARLY
Obadiah777.......a.k.a historian archeologist buzugee............I throway salute........grin
Christianity EtcRe: Closing Eyes In Prayer , How Biblical by ijawkid(m): 2:37pm On Jan 21, 2013
Goshen360: Me think if it doesn't have any scriptural backing, then it's a personal issue. it's not a pre-requisite for receiving answers to prayers.
abiii
Christianity EtcRe: Closing Eyes In Prayer , How Biblical by ijawkid(m): 2:36pm On Jan 21, 2013
Joagbaje: When i was a child i was told to close my eyes in prayers .or else angels will poke finger into my eyes. Is it scriptural to close eyes in prayer? What is the origin?
Lwkmd!!!!....................
Christianity EtcRe: Christ Is Head by ijawkid(m): 1:59pm On Jan 21, 2013
i.chuka:
So your Yahweh has a son,was He created/born?
2.you also said they are two different persons,are you insinuating you guys have 2gods?
_____________________________
New International Version (©1984)
Now this is eternal life: that they may know
you, the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom
you have sent.
______________________________
New Living Translation (©2007)
And this is the way to have eternal life--to
know you, the only true God, and Jesus Christ,
the one[b]you[/b] sent to earth.
_______________________________


Stop calling the almighty ""YOUR YAHWEH""......it seems you have no respect anymore for the one true GOD..........you have shown yourself to be a disgrace to Christ......you are reffering to the almighty as ""Your YAHWEH"".........remember that the Yahweh you are denigrating is the person Jesus worshipped and still worships..........remember that Yahweh is The GOD and FATHER of Jesus...........go and hide your head somewhere.........
Christianity EtcRe: Christ Is Head by ijawkid(m): 12:50pm On Jan 21, 2013
Boomark: I wanted to ask him if God himself who was made manifest in flesh is still the same person who is sitting at the right hand of God himself. huh huh
I also wanted to ask the same........grin........at least BIDAM knows that Jesus(who he claims to be GOD incarnate),who was received up into glory, sat down at the right hand of someone else and not himself..........
Christianity EtcRe: Christ Is Head by ijawkid(m): 12:02pm On Jan 21, 2013
Bidam: Now back to topic: i am not the originator of this thread and i will not attempt to address the various teachings of the so called "Christian" groups (actually cults) who deny the deity of Jesus Christ. All I know, or anyone knows about God comes from His word the Bible. All the teachings, that teach that Jesus Christ is not God, can be all lumped into one group and labeled "the vain speculations of men." Only God Himself can tell us who He is and He has chosen to reveal this truth about Himself in the Bible. There is no other place to go, but to God Himself. Thus, I will let God speak for himself from the Scriptures.


Lets first look at I Tim. 3:16, " And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness: God was manifest in the flesh, justified in the Spirit, seen of angels, preached unto the Gentiles, believed on in the world, received up into glory. "

1. "Without controversy." This means simply "obviously" or "beyond all question."


2. "The mystery of Godliness is great." This denotes the importance and magnitude of this now revealed mystery or truth.


3. The mystery is "God is manifest in the flesh!" This is as straight forward as can be made on the matter. This verse says that God is manifested in the flesh. The Greek word is "phneroo" meaning, "to make visible."


4. Jesus was "Justified in the Spirit." Note it was not the flesh that justified, but the Holy Spirit. Jesus Christ was thus vindicated in the Spirit at His resurrection.


5. Jesus was "Seen of Angels." Angels are spirits, and they saw Christ as spirit.


6. Jesus was "preached among the Gentiles." This denotes the scope of His ministry that He came to save all nations. He was more than the Jewish Messiah, but the Savior of the world.


7. Jesus was "believed on in the world." He being proven to be the Redeemer, He was believed on and accepted as Savior by those who seek after God.


8. Jesus was "Received up into glory." Today Christ is at the right hand of God, making intercession for those who by faith are trusting in Him.


9. This verse is believed to have been a early Christian hymn and could be sung today:


"He appeared in a body, was vindicated by the Spirit; was seen by angels, was preached among the nations, was believed on in the world; was taken up in glory. "
You act like this verse you quoted isn't one of the frauds of trinitarians......eh??.....BIDAM stop spewing rubbish here and spreading heresy...........this verse quoted from never had the word ""GOD"" attached to it before the 3rd/4th century............not until the pagan trinity was formulated was that verse tampered with and here is the result.....persons like BIDAM hold on to false renderings that even fellow trinitarians have discarded and regarded as false............

How this makes sense to you baffles me...

It makes no sense to say God
was justified in the spirit, God was seen by
angels, God was preached among the
Gentiles, God was believed on in the world,
and God was received into glory." One
would have to create a theological
spin to have this make any good sense.........


It was Christ that came in flesh and not GOD....GOD can and has never been seen...stop spreading falsehoods...........and also do your research on this verse.....see how sincere trinitarian translations render that verse,after knowing that the KJV's rendering was a fraud..........


New International Version (©1984)
Beyond all question, the mystery of godliness
is great:He appeared in a body, was vindicated
by the Spirit, was seen by angels, was
preached among the nations, was believed on in
the world, was taken up in glory.
----------------------------

New Living Translation (©2007)
Without question, this is the great mystery of
our faith:Christ was revealed in a human body
and vindicated by the Spirit. He was seen by
angels and announced to the nations. He was
believed in throughout the world and taken to
heaven in glory.
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New American Standard Bible (©1995)
By common confession, great is the mystery of
godliness: He who was revealed in the flesh,
Was vindicated in the Spirit, Seen by angels,
Proclaimed among the nations, Believed on in
the world, Taken up in glory.

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Douay-Rheims Bible
And evidently great is the mystery of
godliness, which was manifested in the flesh,
was justified in the spirit, appeared unto
angels, hath been preached unto the Gentiles,
is believed in the world, is taken up in glory.

____________________________


It was Christ that came in flesh and not GOD himself..........I can't believe that you still don't know that Yahweh and his son(Jesus) are 2 different persons.................and that one person sent the other and not one person incarnating in another form.......

Take your herectic face outta this place.............
Christianity EtcRe: Christ Is Head by ijawkid(m): 10:09am On Jan 21, 2013
Bidam: ...na you sAbi...mrs bible..na you no bible pass..IF JESUS THAT TOOK THE FORM OF A MAN, A SERVANT DECIDE TO TAKE THE FORM OF AN ANGEL...IS THAT TOO MUCH A THING FOR YOU TO COMPREHEND? DATS MY PROBLEM WITH BABIES
Jesus always the subordinate.......angel of GOD....servant of GOD....son of GOD........high priest of GOD.....annointed of GOD........



If it is not clear to you that from the past and for all eternity Jesus would remain Gods servant,then you really need to have your head checked.........

God is subordinate to no one ,but Jesus is........Jesus is Gods servant......chikena.......

When Jesus came to the earth he was sent by his superior....when he acted as an angel before his descending to the earth,he was still running errands for his GOD and superior.......Jesus has always been a servant of God and would never stop being one.......Jesus does nothing of his own originality,only what the Father tells him he does.......

Jesus is Gods[b]servant[/b] for all eternity..............
Christianity EtcRe: Christ Is Head by ijawkid(m): 9:04am On Jan 21, 2013
Bidam: wordly babylonian concept of a servant.that is truth mixed with error..in christainity..the mark of a true leadership is service..read john 13 :8..even God serves us with Air and rain..does dat makes him inferior? Jesus as a diety served his disciples does dat makes him inferior..look at it in dat light..
Jesus served just to teach his followers humility because Jesus himself has a superior.......Jesus through his actions showed his disciples how he has been subservient to his Father long before his descending to the earth.....that is why he could say it is only what he sees the Father doing that he does(that is the disposition of a holy servant).................Jesus serving in no way negates the fact that the disciples or rather christians are slaves of CHrist....or aren't we??......Christ gives the command and we go..............we cannot call Christ our servant,but Christ can call us[b]his servants[/b] because that is what we are.............you cannot call Christ your slave..........servants are forever subservient to there masters.....we are inferior to Christ....aren't we??.....................that is same with Christ being Gods servant.........I told you to watch the possesive pronoun used when GOD reffered to Christ......my servant.......God says he will send his servant and not just a humble leader....God owns Christ,Christ is Gods servant................just as we are inferior to Christ so also Christ is inferior to GOD......1 corinthians 11:3 butresses that fact.....which ever way you choose to look at it Christ is forever Gods servant........please uphold bible truths and stop this charade.............
Christianity EtcRe: Who Is The Most Humble Servant Of God You 've Ever Seen ? by ijawkid(m): 11:28am On Jan 20, 2013
cyrexx: Logicboy,

he is the most humble servant of the true living triune God of Logic, Science and Reason, this God has solved many of mankind's problem as contrasted with popular religionist's Gods (yahweh and allah) who didnt care for mankind's suffering but in whose names mankind has fought countless wars and hated/killed fellow men.
Oboy e be like logicboy fit become ya god o....grin.......cheesy
Christianity EtcRe: Who Is The Most Humble Servant Of God You 've Ever Seen ? by ijawkid(m): 6:18am On Jan 20, 2013
You mean earthly servants alone or servants of GOD both in heaven and earth combined??.....

Jesus is the MOST humble servant of GOD.......
Christianity EtcRe: Has God Spoken To You Before? by ijawkid(m): 6:15am On Jan 20, 2013
YES........through the pages of the scriptures....cheesy
Christianity EtcRe: Christ Is Head by ijawkid(m): 5:17pm On Jan 19, 2013
Bidam: laff wan kill me o..so "ijawkid"(wateva dat is) u re lurking somewhere behind a computer waiting for my post.lol.. Sori i had to go for a lecture(PG prog)..ayam back..now back to topic: i have quoted relevant scriptures to show the equality of Jesus with God..yet you keep on vomiting bile against a christian broda..see me see wahala!! The OT u quote was to fufill the prophecy of Isaiah..Jesus had not died and gone to d cross..so he took the "position" of a servant and became obedient unto death..dat was not His nature...It WAS A POSITION..the Acts u quoted: remember peter was addressing a 'jewish' audience..so he had to quote their torah according to their laws at that time to show them that Jesus is actually the messiah..don't forget it was the same peter that revealed Christ as the Son(not servant) of the Living God.(mat 16:16).
When peter said those words Jesus Gods holy servant was already in heaven glorified........peter reminded the Jews that Jesus was Gods holy servant and not that Jesus was momentarily Gods servant while on earth.......cling to these clear truths and stop jumping here and there.......I quoted the OT and NT to show Jesus still remains a servant of GOD.................Jesus is Gods servant and son.....you have chosen to discard one and choose the other..............and once again I'll tell you that a poor understanding of those scriptures you quoted has made you conclude that Jesus is equal to his Father........but as you have seen Jesus is no way equal to his GOD and Father...........keep running away from truths.....keep running!..........
Christianity EtcRe: Christ Is Head by ijawkid(m): 5:12pm On Jan 19, 2013
Bidam: that is my problem with babes..give dem meat they start crying for milk..anywayz ok agreed Jesus was a servant..re u satisfiedhuh?
Jesus was and is a servant of GOD.......follow the scriptures my bro...it won't kill you......
Christianity EtcRe: Christ Is Head by ijawkid(m): 5:11pm On Jan 19, 2013
@bidam read this passage in acts...open ya eyes and read.....

Acts 4:25-30

. 25 You spoke by the Holy
Spirit through the mouth of your servant, our
father David:
“‘Why do the nations rage
and the peoples plot in vain?
26 The kings of the earth rise up
and the rulers band together
against the Lord
and against his anointed one.’[c]
27 Indeed Herod and Pontius Pilate met
together with the Gentiles and the people of
Israel in this city to conspire against your [b]holy
servant
Jesus, whom you anointed. 28 They did
what your power and will had decided
beforehand should happen. 29 Now, Lord,
consider their threats and enable your
servants to speak your word with great
boldness. 30 Stretch out your hand to heal and
perform signs and wonders through the name
of your holy servant Jesus
_______________________________

My brother even steven wonder would read this verses and know that Christ still remains GODs holy servant..................peter prayed in the name of Gods holy servant Jesus...........open your eyes and stop denying truths.....
Christianity EtcRe: Christ Is Head by ijawkid(m): 4:54pm On Jan 19, 2013
Bidam: the context of mathew 12..was the fufillment of the prophecy of isaiah(isaiah 42:1-4)..infact Jesus was still under the law becos he is still yet to be crucified..most scholars even view the book of mathew as OT under the law..like i said He took a 'Temporary' position of a servant..isaiah even prophesied him as a "LAMB"(Is 53:7) .right now He will Judge the living and the dead( 2 tim4:1 )
LIEEEEE.........Jesus being a servant of GOD wasn't temporal.....its what Jesus has always been............isaiah boldly tells us that Gods servant was to come and that Yahwehs spirit would be on Him...................stop watering down scriptural truths to support your pagan stance.....................servants of GOD obey God and carry out his biddings......
Christianity EtcRe: Christ Is Head by ijawkid(m): 4:50pm On Jan 19, 2013
i.chuka:
He came to serve..Philphn2:7,though He is very God..Philphn2:6.
His purpose here on earth was to serve,even as the fullness of God dwelleth in Him bodily,He only came as a Servant.
Lol..........and also returned back to the heaven as still Gods servant...No??.................Jesus never stops to be GODS servant...........that is why he is forever made subject to the ONE who gave him rulership and kingdoms.........would you tell me that our being slaves of CHRIST is also momentary??......it is forever........the same way Jesus being Gods servant remains a constant and forever thing.........Jesus in the heavens still carries out Yahwehs will.....he runs as Gods appointed high priest......He is also the mediator between the only one true GOD and man..........Jesus is still Yahwehs servant and will forever be...........the day Jesus stops being a servant of GOD is the day Jesus tags up with satan in his rebellion.........ok??......
Christianity EtcRe: Christ Is Head by ijawkid(m): 4:40pm On Jan 19, 2013
Bidam: funny u should quote a line of verse for an argument..ok lemme use the aramaic translation for a better understanding heb 2:9 "But we see that he is Yeshua, who became a little lower than the angels for the suffering of his death, and glory and honor are placed upon his head, For God himself by his grace, tasted death in the place of every person" .
Explanation: He became man or He was born under the law..in hierachy man was under the angels(becos all have sinned including adam(roman 5:12)..Jesus took human flesh, it was by POSITION and not by nature.He took a temporary position as a servant(dats why i pity those like ijawkid who still think of him as a servant right now..smh!). That He might taste death for everyone to reedem them(romans 5:6-cool..the object of the apostle here is to show that He was 'exalted' and in order to show this he took us back to Jesus "temporal position"...also read phil 2: 8-9 to show the reason why He was exalted and given a Name far above every name.
Acts 3:13.....

13 The God of Abraham, Isaac and
Jacob, the God of our fathers, has glorified
his servant Jesus. You handed him over to be
killed, and you disowned him before Pilate,
though he had decided to let him go
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Keep fooling yourself that Jesus is not still the servant of God after his ressurection and acsension....it is people like you that read scriptures and never get to an understanding because the traditions of men have blocked your vision completely...........

Jesus would always remain a slave of GOD........

By the way let me ask you this simple questions since you've decided to be blind folded...
1.....Who exalted Jesus??...
2...And who gave Jesus a name that is far above any other name(with the exception of Yahweh)??......

3.....And to whose glory was Gods servant(Jesus) exalted or glorified??........
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Even with scriptures dancing in front of you ,you are still obstinate................Jesus was and is not an equal with GOD..........Jesus being a servant of God was never temporary or momentary,its forever............
_______________________________

Soon you might start asking :: show me where in the NT where Jesus calls the Father MY GOD...................
Christianity EtcRe: Will Having Tattoos Send Me To Hell? by ijawkid(m): 10:21am On Jan 19, 2013
Joagbaje: As much as I see tattoo as not decent . It's a matter of choice what decoration you put on your body .The bible is not against tattoo. God is not against tattoo. Do don't feel condemn by nothing.
Smh
Christianity EtcRe: Christ Is Head by ijawkid(m): 8:33am On Jan 19, 2013
Bidam: ayam not evading any scriptures..you are the one not getting it..He came in the likeness of men thru the virgin birth..so wat do you expect from Him than to serve..look @ phil 2:6.." Who, being in THE VERY NATURE GOD,did not consider EQUALITY with God something to be grasped(that means he set a pattern for humility here and dats why He calls Himself servant cos He came for service...did u get it! You guys are even the ones evading philipians 2:6 see me see wahala!!!
Jesus not only concurs that he is GOds servant because he came for service,God himself calls Jesus my servant and also because Jesus has always been Yahwehs servant.....take note of the possesive pronouns used.....".MY servant"",,""HIS servant"".........stop trying to water down Jesus being a servant of GOD to be a momentary one..................from Gods stand point Jesus was obedient and subservient just as a good son and servant would be,while from our stand point Jesus was HUMBle for coming to reside here on earth with men which he is greater than......the Father being the head of all gives commands and it is obligatory for his servants to carry them out.........Jesus was under obligation to obey his Father because he is Gods servant..............philippians in no way negates that Jesus is Gods servant now and forever more....try to get this into your head........
Christianity EtcRe: Christ Is Head by ijawkid(m): 8:24am On Jan 19, 2013
Bidam: ayam not evading any scriptures..you are the one not getting it..He came in the likeness of men thru the virgin birth..so wat do you expect from Him than to serve..look @ phil 2:6.." Who, being in THE VERY NATURE GOD,did not consider EQUALITY with God something to be grasped(that means he set a pattern for humility here and dats why He calls Himself servant cos He came for service...did u get it! You guys are even the ones evading philipians 2:6 see me see wahala!!!
Christianity EtcRe: If Logicboy Was Broke!!! by ijawkid(m): 7:58am On Jan 19, 2013
CrazyMan: How about you...are you still serving?
Yeah..passing out this february...cheesy.....
Christianity EtcRe: Christ Is Head by ijawkid(m): 7:49am On Jan 19, 2013
Bidam: lol..e bi like say i get your time this morning sha..lemme match all you post..ayam not making a fool of my self..infact ayam foolish for Jesus Christ..I so much Love Him..my Heart beats For Him..He might be a "servant" to you cos dats wat ur itching ears like to hear(like a muslim)...But He is my Lord and Personal Savior..He is the King of kings, He is the Lord of lords..heaven and earth adore Him..angels bow before Him.
Lol......Jesus is not my servant,he is the servant of GOD............I also agree Jesus is my LORD,but just try to agree that The FATHER is the LORD of Jesus........okpari....!!!!...........while angels bow before Jesus,Jesus bows before the Father....don't you get it??.........bidam agree ehhhhhhhh.............
Christianity EtcRe: Christ Is Head by ijawkid(m): 7:40am On Jan 19, 2013
Bidam: lol..abeg stay no run..you need to give your life to CHRIST..LOOK AT WHAT JESUS TELL ME TO TELL YOU IJAWKID THIS MORNING: "I TELL YOU THE TRUTH, WHOEVER HEARS MY WORD AND BELIEVES HIM WHO SENT ME HAS ETERNAL LIFE AND WILL NOT BE CONDEMNED....I TELL YOU THE TRUTH, A TIME IS COMING AND HAS NOW COME WHEN THE DEAD HEAR THE VOICE OF THE SON OF GOD AND THOSE WHO HEAR WILL LIVE...@ijawkid do u believe in Jesus as the Son of God?(not a servant) re u ready to live? Cos witout the name Jesus, forget assesing Jehovah..that was why i.chuka said without Jesus your jehovah is 'nothing' and he is right u know.. Don't read your bible like a newspaper.
Chei I don die ooo......bidam just evaded the clear scriptures I quoted that shows Jesus is the servant of GOD..............I believe Jesus is the son of GOD and the[b]servant[/b] of GOD.........you on the other hand are dodging who Jesus truly is..........I agree with scriptures that he is both son and servant of GOD,I'm waiting for you to agree.......
Christianity EtcRe: Christ Is Head by ijawkid(m): 7:28am On Jan 19, 2013
Bidam: shut your trap..you might as well be a muslim cos they accept ur views.
Lol........while the muslims don't believe in Jesus as the mediator between the 1 GOD and man I believe it.....so i can't be a muslim...............rather you are a pagan and a fraud for trying to equate Gods servant,son,apostle,high priest with GOD himself...........you should be ashamed of yourself.......the muslims are better than you on this.............they believe GOD has no equals just as the scriptures say,but you are evading truth..........
Christianity EtcRe: Christ Is Head by ijawkid(m): 7:25am On Jan 19, 2013
Bidam: ayam not distracting from any question you asked..if u like look @ it as if it means anoda thing...Jesus said I AM THE WAY THE TRUTH AND THE LIFE...NO ONE(boomark,ijawkid,bidam,chuka) CAN COME TO THE FATHER EXCEPT THROUGH ME...if u like quote genesis to revelations. witout Jesus your so called "jehovah" is just like the god of islam,budhist etc..no difference.
Who does not agree that Jesus is the way to which we can get to the FATHER??......all we are saying is that accept the truth that Jesus is lesser than his GOD and FATHER....that is why CHRIST remains a mediator(servant of GOD) between GOD and man........and stop calling the almighty ""SO CALLED JEHOVAH""..........you are making a fool of yourself.......................
Christianity EtcRe: Christ Is Head by ijawkid(m): 7:20am On Jan 19, 2013
i.chuka:
Where is it written in the bible that from His pre existence He has always been GODs servant?
Smh!!!!!!........go and read isaiah my freind and see things for yourself...........long before Jesus was sent,the scriptures ideÑtified him as Gods holy servant.........even Jesus openly acknowledged he is GODs servant when on earth.....then 1 corinthians 15:24-28 which you and bidam have been dodging shows Jesus would remain the subject or subordinate he is forever..........
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Look at these respective scriptures and then go to sleep....

Isaiah 53:11
11 After he has suffered,
he will see the light of life[d] and be
satisfied[e];
by his knowledge[f] my righteous servant will
justify many,
and he will bear their iniquities.
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Matthew 12:17 $ 18

17 This was
to fulfill what was spoken
through the prophet Isaiah:
18 “Here is[b]my servant[/b] whom
I have chosen,
the one I love, in whom I
delight;
I will put my Spirit on him,
and he will proclaim justice
to the nations.
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Acts 3:13
13 The God of Abraham, Isaac and
Jacob, the God of our fathers, has glorified
his[b]servant[/b] Jesus. You handed him over to be
killed, and you disowned him before Pilate,
though he had decided to let him go
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Jesus remains a servant and a subordinate to GOD yesterday,today and forever more..........

That is why GOD calls Jesus my holy servant and Jesus in
turn calls the Father my GOD..........

These are clear truths you have chosen to walk away from............just as
we are and remain slaves of CHRIST §o also CHRIST is and remains a slave(servant) of GOD..........chikena.............

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And I'm leaving your thread.............bye bye.....
Christianity EtcRe: Christ Is Head by ijawkid(m): 6:59am On Jan 19, 2013
i.chuka:
LoL
Dude,you are free tou leave the thread
Where were you when the trinity was been trampled on on other threads??.....now you Are asking questions like a baby..........

Jesus is Gods servants.......if you like dey there dey struggle with truth....
Christianity EtcRe: Christ Is Head by ijawkid(m): 6:57am On Jan 19, 2013
Bidam: abegi...go sleep..u no get talk..stop being angry like farasee and sad to see pple..na flesh dey talk inside u jare..go back and study d scriptures.
As usual......run away from glaring truths..........just accept that GOD is greater than Jesus(Jesus is lesser than GOD).......Jesus sef openly acknowledge am.....BIDAM open your mouth and say it....and stop this wayo you are playing........grin.......
Christianity EtcRe: If Logicboy Was Broke!!! by ijawkid(m): 1:48am On Jan 19, 2013
CrazyMan: Same here... grin

I've really missed this section. cry
My bro....you're a corper too??....
Christianity EtcRe: Christ Is Head by ijawkid(m): 1:44am On Jan 19, 2013
Bidam: jehovah witness indoctrination..and why should he? Simple analogy :focus on God the Father, God the Son..whether d devil like am or he no like am we will keep sayin this scriptural truth till thy kingdom come
This i§ not about JW....face the issues here and stop calling a denomination...
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I have never seen the expression""GOD the son"" in the scriptures before.......

And what truths are u talking about??...........wait until Jesus in the end deals with you for saying he is equal to his FATHER...............

Just to accept the clear truth that Jesus is [b]lesser[/b]than his Father is so hard for you.....something that even Jesus himself acknowledged and boldly proclaimed.....smh!!!!!!!......

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