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Christianity EtcRe: Thirty Questions For Teachers Of Eternal Torment by ijawkid(m): 10:19pm On Jan 14, 2013
Bidam: stop talking to me as if am a babe..as if i just gave my life to Christ yesterday...for ur info.. I have been in the Faith for 15yrs..and this is a consistent walk with Jesus..u dnt know me..this is just a faceless forum..stop jumping into conclusions bro..dats a familiar spirit at work.
Sorry sir...................
Christianity EtcRe: Thirty Questions For Teachers Of Eternal Torment by ijawkid(m): 9:33pm On Jan 14, 2013
Bidam: so u mean the redemptive work of Christ on the cross of calvary has not purged me completely from dead workshuh Ur statements are sickening by the day.. Are u really a believer? I believe others like alexleo and image have already ask u this question..anywayz by their fruits(statements) we shall know them.
Lol.....my bro when you believe in Jesus you read more about him and also truths from the scriptures.....Christ dying on the cross was for persons like you to purge your system off doctrines like the immortality of the soul and the eternal hell fire torment gibberish........the purging process is continous......keep purging your system until you allign with scriptural truths completely.......u dey hear me??
Christianity EtcRe: Thirty Questions For Teachers Of Eternal Torment by ijawkid(m): 9:23pm On Jan 14, 2013
frosbel: Did he really say that JESUS did not DIE in the grave huh
He said that it was while Jesus was in the grave that he went away to preach to the spirits in prison not after Jesus was ressurected.........in other words bidam was saying Jesus was alive while in the tomb.....that Jesus' death only occured on the TREE he was hung.......
Christianity EtcRe: Christ Is Head by ijawkid(m): 9:11pm On Jan 14, 2013
@Real-beni......good job........

@I.CHUKA.....smh!!!!......I can't believe you said this "" without Christ,your so called Almighty
God has no power and can do nothing
without going through Christ
"".......

That statement is an insult to Yahweh who is the Father and GOD of Jesus.....your statement is an insult to the[b]one[/b] who gave Jesus life and every single thing Jesus has.........

do you see what the trinity is doing to you and what it has done to you.??....................smh!!!!!..........
Christianity EtcRe: Thirty Questions For Teachers Of Eternal Torment by ijawkid(m): 8:40pm On Jan 14, 2013
Bidam: lol..so what if i was a muslim? Does it bother you that i have seen the light? Are u happy or sad? By your statements i guess you are very annoyed like satan if not why should you say i should go back? I guess just like your father the devil who is in the business of knowing and checking someone's past..you have made a research of my post on nairaland before coming to reply me..keep up d pretense of being a believer..the sheeps will soon be separated from the goats..and mark my words its gonna be soon..
No I aint annoyed that you're now a christian...I'm sorry if I sounded harsh and repulsive with my comment........I was only pointing out that you purge islam off your system completely if you really wanna hold on to what the bible teaches.........I'm happy you believe in Jesus ......I really am..................but please don't propagate the myth that Jesus wasn't dead while in the grave.............I'm sorry once more brother BIDAm ...........you're always welcome............please accept my apologies.........you be my brother........cheesy
Christianity EtcRe: Thirty Questions For Teachers Of Eternal Torment by ijawkid(m): 8:07pm On Jan 14, 2013
Bidam: OK..the rescuer has arrived..and why not? HE said " I am the resurrection and the life. Whoever believes in me, though he die, yet shall he live, and everyone who lives and believes in me shall never die. Do you believe this? John 11:25-26"... OK i now see to buttress your demonic doctrines that Jesus was a mere man abi? WAS JONAH DEAD IN THE BELLY OF THE FISH?? DO YOU THINK JESUS WAS silly TO HAVE USED THAT ANALOGY?? IT IS TO STOP PPLE LIKE YOU FROM CREATING WRONG DOCTRINES IN THE CHURCH.
.......My sincere apology frosbel, you actually are the one who need the Holy Spirit to interprete the Bible for you.
I can see you have no choice but to support the muslims on this.......Jonah did not experience death,Jonah was not killed.......Jesus experienced death....Jesus was killed......do you really understand what kill means??.........Jesus was only showing how[b]inactive[/b] he'll be whilst in the tomb coupled with the fact that he'll be killed...................

When Jesus says those who believe in him,though he die yet shall LIVE only affirms the hope of ressurection for dead persons............RESSURECTION of the dead i§ what Jesus would do for all those who had believed in him.............when we die we remain unconscious until we are ressurected.........

Please stop propagating this false teaching....its aim is to abrogate the true doctrine of ressurection.......if souls would be running or roving round the heavens and hell fire after a person dies then Yahweh and his son would be wasting there time with ressurection..............it would be a big contradiction ressurecting one who is alive.....only the dead experience ressurection.............
Christianity EtcRe: Thirty Questions For Teachers Of Eternal Torment by ijawkid(m): 7:43pm On Jan 14, 2013
Bidam: @ the emboldened...ofcos i know that, the joke was actually on you dumb head....did i mention altar as paradise in my posthuh this lies don dey too much sha....i mention that fact in my post maybe you were too blind in marshaling your arguments to notice...i brought scriptures to prove my points, stop insinuating what Jesus said...has "today turned to that day"..see what JESUS said...let me use other translations so you wont do 419....
New International Version (©1984)
Jesus answered him, "I tell you the truth, today you will be with me in paradise."
New Living Translation (©2007)

And Jesus replied, "I assure you,[b] today you will be with me in paradise."

English Standard Version (©2001)[/b]
And he said to him, “Truly, I say to you, today you will be with me in Paradise.”

New American Standard Bible (©1995)
And He said to him, "Truly I say to you, today you sha[/b]ll be with Me in Paradise."

Holman Christian Standard Bible (©2009)
And He said to him, [b]"I assure you: Today you will be with Me in paradise."

International Standard Version (©2012)
Jesus told him, "I tell you with certainty, today you will be with me in Paradise."
If you didn't know there were puctuations issue with this verse then you have a long way to go...........Jesus and that thief did not go to paradise that day.........the kjv translators who are ofcus pro immortality of the soul like you misplaced punctuations to support there false stance.....but as we can see from the scriptures Jesus and that thief went to no paradise ,rather they went to the grave........except you wanna define ""grave"" as paradise.............



Meanwhile the reason why I insinuated you thinking that the altar is paradise is because
I see no relevance of you quoting that scripture in this discussion........I gave a precept upon precept explanation of what those souls on the altar connote.........
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Bidam: ... shocked shocked shocked these are false(fallacy)...lemme quote again the translations so you won't miss the gist, be cos e be like say u no dey see(pharisee)....mat 12:40 connects 1 pet 3:19 Matthew 12:40 (King James Version)


Matthew 12:40
King James Version (KJV)
40 For as Jonas was three days and three nights in the whale's belly; so shall the Son of man be three days and three nights in the heart of the earth.[/b]the bible said he died on the cross..did the bible tell us he died in the heart of the earthhuh? if it did, pls show me the scripture. 1 pet 3 18 For Christ also hath once suffered for sins, the just for the unjust, [b]that he might bring us to God, being put to death in the flesh, but quickened by the Spirit:

19[b] By which also he went and preached unto the spirits in prison;
[/b]
20 Which sometime were disobedient, when once the long-suffering of God waited in the days of Noah, while the ark was a preparing, wherein few, that is, eight souls were saved by water.

it was immediately after death that the resurrection power hit the grave he was laid bro... and not after being unconscious for 3 days and three nights as you would have us believe..be cos the next verse stated clearly what he went to do within those three days and 3 nights. you can now see your lies and deceptions from the pit of hell abi....and its like you are having a hard time differentiating between spirit, soul and body..abegi go for foundational studies on that.. grin grin grin
Lol.....you are fallacious my bro....oh I forgot you were a muslim before....am I right??.....only muslims argue that Jesus did not die,and its no surprise you are holding on to such false belief just to support the phony point that "" the dead are conscious""....smh!!!!!......you had to go quote matthew 12:40 as a prop for ""Jesus was alive while in his tomb or for the 3days he was in the grave....smh!!!!!!.........you better go back to being a muslim...........
Was Jonah active while in the belly of the fish??was Jonah able to preach during his 3days stay in the belly of the fish??........that matthew you quoted even supports the scriptural stance that the dead are totally conscious of nothing at all.....that scripture butresses the fact that the dead are inactive.....and Jesus was indeed inactive while he stayed 3days in the tomb..so going to preach to the spirits in prison from his tomb would even contradict the parallels between his(Jesus) death and stay in sheol for 3days with Jonahs stay in the belly of the fish.......more to this is that Jesus died and was buried,which makes Jesus' case of unconsciousness and inactiveness double that of Jonah's.........Jonah was not killed nor did Jonah die(but preserved alive in the fish's belly),but Jesus was stabbed and killed and he died and was buried.......and so Jesus remained unconscious for 3days.......take your lies back to islam and to greek philosophers
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Can we please consider 1 peter 3:18-20 and see how false your assertions are.??.....let's read from other reenditions so that you get the point clearer rather than spread false demonic teachings to people.....
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New Living Translation (©2007)
18..Christ suffered for our sins once for all time. He never sinned, but he died for sinners to bring you safely home to God. He suffered physical death, but he was raised to life in the Spirit
19...New Living Translation (©2007)
So he went and preached to the spirits in prison
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Goodnews translation(GNT)
18 For Christ died [ a ] for sins once and for all, a good man on behalf of sinners, in order to lead you to God. He was put to death physically, but made alive spiritually,
19.. and in his[b]spiritual existence[/b] he went and preached to the imprisoned spirits
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From the above it was after christ was raised up he went to preach to the spirits in prison not when he was in the grave.............that scripture never said it was while Christ was In the grave for 3days that he went to preach to those spirits....for you to assume that is unscriptural and false........Christ remained unconscious there in the tomb until he was ressurected........like I have said earlier you and your cohorts are a making a mockery of the ressurection.........also it has been debunked that nobody goes to heaven immediately after death or while in there graves.....I know you agree Christ did not smell the surroundings of the heavens when he died ............people who die stay unconscious in there graves until they are ressurected.............shikena.
Christianity EtcRe: Thirty Questions For Teachers Of Eternal Torment by ijawkid(m): 12:03am On Jan 13, 2013
Bidam: You mean they actually gave their necks willingly to be slaughtered like rams by boko haram? abegi go siddon..u no get talk. To answer your questions lets start with what happened to the Repentant Thief on the Cross (Luke 23:32-34, 39-43): As they hung on their respective crosses, one of the thieves who was crucified with Him turned to Jesus with a repentant heart saying, “Lord, remember me when thou comest into thy kingdom”. Christ’s response was to say, “Verily I say unto thee, Today shalt thou be with me in Paradise” (see Luke 23:39-43).

We know that at the time of His death the Lord Jesus descended to the “heart of the earth” where He stayed for three days and three nights (Matt. 12:40) “and preached to the spirits in prison” (I Pet. 3:19). This tells us that up to the time of Christ’s sacrifice for the sins of the world, “Paradise” was in the heart of the earth. He promised the repentant thief they would be together in Paradise that very day.
Oh yes those apostles died a§ matyrs....there deaths were fashioned in the likeness of that of there master(Jesus)...listen to what paul says in phillipians 3:9-10
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9 And be found in him, not having mine own
righteousness, which is of the law, but that
which is through the faith of Christ, the
righteousness which is of God by faith:
10 That I may know him, and the power of
his resurrection, and the fellowship of his
sufferings,
being made conformable unto
his death
;...........
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The souls of tho§e underneath that. SymbÓlic altar signifies the kind of death those faithfuls under went.... The "altar" is not paradise......


I wanna know if you are saying that paradise is sheol??........
PlÉase tell me whe®e paradisÉ is located.....it seems you don't know.......Jesus went to "hell"
That day along with the thief ......I wonder how HELL turned out to be paradise.......if you had not noticed Jesus was aSsuring that thief that he'll be ressurected when the end comes.....because neither Jesus nor the thief went to paradise that day..........smh!!!!.....

Also not until Jesus was ressurected did he go preach to the spirits in prison..for you to assume that Jesus while in the grave escaped to go visit the spirits in prison goes against the scriptures...........Jesus was no where to be found other than the tomb he was in for 3days........Jesus was ressurected before he gained consciousness and was able to visit the spirits in prison.............


Bidam: This is the same place that is referred to as Abraham’s Bosom in Luke 16:22. From II Corinthians we know that Paradise is now located in “the third heaven” (see II Cor. 12:1-4). Obviously this abode of the saved dead was moved from the innermost parts, or the heart, of the earth to the heavenly abode of God. Paradise is the place where the souls of the redeemed reside awaiting the resurrection. Before the price of their redemption was paid on the cross, it was located in the heart of the earth. But, after the full payment was made, it was relocated to the third heaven, or the Heaven of heavens, where God is. There they wait in God’s presence for the time of their resurrection.
I thought the souls of GOOD people fly to heaven while the souls of bad persons immediately transit to hell fire to burn.....not so??......from your exegesis of those scriptures we can conclude that heaven where the soul of righteous persons will go has now turned out to be" hell" which Jesus went to for 3 days??........smh!!!.....you see why we say the story of the rich man and lazarus is just a parable and nothing more??...........was abraham in hell from the parable of the rich man and lazarus??....................Jesus didn't go to paradise immediately after his death,rather Jesus went to hades,sheol,grave etc........Jesus was inactive,dead and unconscious...that is why he was ressurected.....Yahweh won't waste his time ressurecting one whose soul is already perambulating.......you guys are a making a mockery of the hope of ressurection....

And as for the 2corinthians 12:1-4 you quoted it was paul himself that had that experience and not some deady body wey soul escape from........


Bidam: The souls of all of the redeemed who have died since Jesus Christ’s resurrection have entered into God’s presence there as to be “absent from the body” is to be “present with the Lord” (see II Cor. 5:6-cool.
And how does thi§ prove that when a man dies his soul either goes to heaven or HELL fire before he is ressurected??.......smh!!!...
Christianity EtcRe: Thirty Questions For Teachers Of Eternal Torment by ijawkid(m): 7:43pm On Jan 12, 2013
Bidam: My apology to the preacher. am not saying he is not correct but i tend to hold a different view from wat was quoted from ecclesiastes..from the beginning of the passage he said everything is meaningless but we all know the death of Christ is not meaningless..my point is the preacher has not been given the knowledge to know what happens after death..he is only searching for the key to the meaning of life....Now there must be a reason why we are not given an insightful knowlege to know what happens immediately someone dies..i believe only God knows best..but from my little knowlegde of scriptures..the scenario where Jesus painted a graphical illustration is that of the rich man and lazarus..if u look at vs22 of luke 16..the bible says the rich man died and was buried and immediately found himself in hell where he was in torment.lazarus was not was not in heaven but in the bossom of Abraham..remember the pharisee believed so much in ressurection that they asked Jesus questions..and Jesus replied, the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob is not the God of the dead but of the living..after physical death, individuals continue to exist in a state of personal consciousness,lets take a little look @ the apokalypsis revelation of John the beloved who was closer to Jesus than anyone, he was opportuned to have a little insight of what happens after death when banished @ the island of patmos..in Rev6:9-10 the bible says "when he opened the fifth seal, i saw under the altar the souls of those who had been slain because of the word of God and the testimony they had maintained.10..they called out in a loud voice..how long,Sovereign Lord, holy and true. Until you judge the inhabitants of the earth and avenge our blood? Then each of them was given a white robe AND THEY WERE TOLD TO WAIT A LITTLE LONGER, UNTIL THE NUMBER OF THEIR FELLOW SERVANTS AND BROTHERS WHO WERE TO BE KILLED AS THEY HAD BEEN WAS COMPLETED...pls dnt ask me wether souls have tongues and can speak..from d scripture above you can see that the ressurection has not even occured yet..so where are these souls staying? Your guess is as good as mine..lets look @ heb 12....therefore since we are sorrounded by such a great cloud of WITNESSES...who are these cloud of witnesses that exist even before RESSURECTION? IF u look @vs22 but you have come to mount zion....23.to the spirits of righteous men made perfect.....who are these righteousmen in the city of the living God with Jesus even before the ressurectionhuh Ur guess is as good as mine..chew this bit for now i will continue....
Let me concentrate on the rev 6:9-10

Those souls of those death saints in revelation 6:9 contextually shows that those persons died sacrificial deaths...nothing more nothing less.........that is why they are found under an altar......also remember that before they are given robes and crowns to wear they had to be ressurected first(revelation 20:4 $ 5)..............without ressurection the those faithfuls remained in sheol just like Jesus was in sheol before he was ressurected...........
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Do you know what should solve this whole problem??........if you study Jesus' death and ressurection very well then you would understand the real truths as to what happens to man when he dies.........and as we know Jesus is the firstborn from the dead,meaning his ressurection is set as a pattern for all others who'd be ressurected.........
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I'll like to ask you this......when Jesus died where was his soul??.......did it run to the heavens or did it remain there in sheol until ressurection??..........was Jesus' soul dissociated from his body to go reside somewhere??.....was Jesus conscious while he was in sheol before his ressurection??
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Christianity EtcRe: How Many Times Have You Missed Church In 2013 ? by ijawkid(m): 7:14pm On Jan 12, 2013
obadiah777: DEACON IJAWKID IS A WELL KNOWN DEACON AROUND THESE PARTS. HE IS KNOWN FOR HIS CONSTANT BATTLES WITH DEACON GOSHEN ABOUT THE TRINITY DOCTRINE grin
Lol.......it aint easy bro battling out that doctrine.......grin
Christianity EtcRe: How Many Times Have You Missed Church In 2013 ? by ijawkid(m): 12:46pm On Jan 12, 2013
obadiah777: I HAVE NOT MISSED CHURCH A SINGLE DAY. SINCE THE 1ST OF JANUARY I HAVE BEEN IN CHURCH EVERYDAY. SCRIPTURE SAY WHERE TWO OR MORE ARE GATHERED IN MY NAME THERE WILL I BE. TWO OR MORE ARE ALWAYS GATHERED IN THE LORDS NAME ON NAIRALAND RELIGION SECTION SO THIS IS CHURCH. NAIRALAND RELIGION IS CHURCH. I ATTEND EVERYDAY undecided grin
Lol..grin.....where are the bishops and deacons??
Christianity EtcRe: Why Do Pentecostal Christians Shake Their Heads Vigorously While Praying? by ijawkid(m): 9:36am On Jan 12, 2013
musKeeto: To do more damage to their brain...

They rarely use it anyway..
Lmao.....funny...
Christianity EtcRe: Thirty Questions For Teachers Of Eternal Torment by ijawkid(m): 6:44am On Jan 12, 2013
Bidam: After physical death, do individual continue to exist in a state of personal consciousness or not? Pls reply with relevant scriptures.
ECclesiastes 9:5

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New International Version (©1984)
For the living know that they will die, but the
dead know nothing; they have no further
reward, and even the memory of them is
forgotten.
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New Living Translation (©2007)
The living at least know they will die, but the
dead know nothing. They have no further
reward, nor are they remembered.
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They are conscious of nothing at all....
Christianity EtcRe: Atheists And Agnostics??do U Doubt God's(yahwehs) Morality?? by ijawkid(op): 6:26am On Jan 12, 2013
musKeeto: I'll try my best... I don dey get cancer of the wings... Una use am too much last year, abeg sofry sofry dis year.. cheesy
Agreed!!.....make we go give ourselves titles for deep sight thread.....oya.......cheesy
Christianity EtcRe: Atheists And Agnostics??do U Doubt God's(yahwehs) Morality?? by ijawkid(op): 6:17am On Jan 12, 2013
musKeeto: Ijawkid, u still dey drink ogogoro for Bayelsa? Which tym u go come back na? Year don dey old o...

Happy new year sha...
tongue
Lol.........my ogogoro tumbler don empty o.......I don show back.....I just dey look ona.......hw far na??..........hope you no go near baygon and muskeeto coils this year...grin
Christianity EtcRe: Anony's Soul Theory Destroyed By Richard Dawkins! by ijawkid(m): 8:57pm On Jan 11, 2013
Logicboy03: Did I ever do something that butthurted you in the past?

Even Anony/Frosbel dont have this hatred for me.
Lol.........
Christianity EtcRe: Richard Dawkins Rejects Atheist Church In London by ijawkid(m): 7:44pm On Jan 11, 2013
Logicboy03: This is the only way dumbazz christians can understand. You need a Messiah to think for you. You guys appeal to authority and so...................
Why quote dawkins stance....is he your god??.......
Christianity EtcRe: Richard Dawkins Rejects Atheist Church In London by ijawkid(m): 7:41pm On Jan 11, 2013
Smh!!!....!


Is dawkins now the foundation on which atheism is built ??.........
Christianity EtcRe: Footballers And Supporters Going To Hell? by ijawkid(m): 1:40pm On Jan 11, 2013
Heavenly102: I dont know why people only see those that are in hell and not those in Heaven
Christianity EtcRe: Footballers And Supporters Going To Hell? by ijawkid(m): 1:36pm On Jan 11, 2013
Bélla3: SO ,SO ,SO, ALL OF UNA FOLLOW DEY WASH BALL?shockedshocked Chai! Devil is a liar. FASTING MODE ACTIVATED.

Up BLUESgrin
Lol....I dey watch ball o like say tomorrow no dey........meanwhile .wetin u dey use chelsea do??...club wey no get direction.....come to the catolonians.......FCB.....grin
Christianity EtcRe: Scam Ministers And Fake Tv Preachers by ijawkid(m): 7:19pm On Jan 09, 2013
frosbel: Also, why is it that ONLY ONE MAN with his inner circle have the benefit of using this jet for travel , why can't the ordinary members fly in it , free of charge if and when required.
I've always asked this question too......would an ordinary member be allowed to board the private jets of these MOG's??.........
Christianity EtcRe: Two Nigerian Gay Pastors Arrested For Having Intercourse In A Hotel Room In Lago by ijawkid(m): 12:48pm On Jan 09, 2013
obadiah777: NIGERIAN PASTORS ARE GETTING MORE REPROBATE. IF THEY ARE NOT BUYING PRIVATE JETS THEY ARE YANSHING THEIR FELLOW MEN tongue
Lol.........they gone gaga.......mad men....
Christianity EtcRe: What Right Does A Nigerian Christian Have To Complain About UK Gay Bishops? by ijawkid(m): 10:52pm On Jan 08, 2013
Logicboy03: Think before you talk bro.
What's there to think??...........you are always ever ready to defend gays ....................until you are tagged as one you'll never think straight.............
Christianity EtcRe: What Right Does A Nigerian Christian Have To Complain About UK Gay Bishops? by ijawkid(m): 10:38pm On Jan 08, 2013
As usual........logicboy the gay apologist steps up.....if I call you gay you'll start grumbling....
PoliticsRe: Why Is Nothing Being Done About The Insane People On Our Streets? by ijawkid(m): 2:37pm On Jan 08, 2013
manmustwac: There's one crazy guy that I swear must be mixed race. Walks around talking to himself in Enughe & Apala Street near the Estate part of warri
Manmustwac you do stay in warri??.......
Christianity EtcRe: Bad -church Of England Endorses Gay Bishops by ijawkid(m): 12:25am On Jan 07, 2013
Atheist:-D:
^^^

What if they dont give uo their past?

Do you know how many thieves are entertained in churches? What about tithe robbing pastors? Are thieves better than homosexuals?
If these thieves are found and are unrepentant they are to be kicked out of the congregation ..........if they feel remorse over there wrong doings and willingly repent then they'll be accepted back.....there are no 2 ways to this..........

1 corinthians 5:9-13
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1Cr 5:9

I wrote unto you in an epistle not to company
with fornicators:
1Cr 5:10
Yet not altogether with the fornicators of
this world, or with the covetous, or
extortioners, or with idolaters; for then must
ye needs go out of the world.
1Cr 5:11
But now I have written unto you not to keep
company, if any man that is called a brother be
a fornicator, or covetous, or an idolater, or a
railer, or a drunkard, or an extortioner; with
such an one no not to eat.
1Cr 5:12
For what have I to do to judge them also that
are without? do not ye judge them that are
within?
1Cr 5:13
But them that are without God judgeth.
Therefore put away from among yourselves
that wicked person.
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Those who incessantly and unrepentantly engage in wrongdoings should have no place in the gathering of Gods people........wether thieves,fornicators,gays,extortioners etc should be jettisoned for normalcy to reign....



Unrepentant gays been bishops is the craziest thing I've ever heard......the anglican church should be locked up........smh!!!!!!!.......
Christianity EtcRe: Footballers And Supporters Going To Hell? by ijawkid(m): 4:56pm On Jan 06, 2013
Reyginus: True o. Since 2004.
Cheiiii.........na him we never celebrate small for all our victories?? grin..............we too much jawe...!!!......
Christianity EtcRe: Bad -church Of England Endorses Gay Bishops by ijawkid(m): 12:09pm On Jan 06, 2013
Atheist:-D:
So xtians are finally getting it. The West is moving on from the dark days of discrimination.

Next we will get women bishops grin
And how would this affect you??....would it make you come to believe in GOD??
Christianity EtcRe: Footballers And Supporters Going To Hell? by ijawkid(m): 11:24am On Jan 06, 2013
Hahahahahahahah......@reyginus.....you be barca fan??.....we be brothers be that oooo......grin
Christianity EtcRe: Thirty Questions For Teachers Of Eternal Torment by ijawkid(m): 12:15am On Jan 06, 2013
Image123: Rev 14:10 The same shall drink of the wine of the wrath of God, which is poured out without mixture into the cup of his indignation; and he shall be tormented with fire and brimstone in the presence of the holy angels, and in the presence of the Lamb:
Rev 20:10 And the devil that deceived them was cast into the lake of fire and brimstone, where the beast and the false prophet are, and shall be tormented day and night forever and ever
Rev 14:11 And the smoke of their torment ascendeth up forever and ever: and they have no rest day nor night, who worship the beast and his image, and whosoever receiveth the mark of his name.
Before you run into some spurious conclusion why don't you read the scriptures completely to get the full import of what John penned down in revelations........this is not the first time the scriptures are using expressions like ""shall be tormented day and night"",, ""and the smoke of there torment ascendeth up forever and ever and they have no rest day and night""............

Yahweh had earlier pronounced such judgement on nations in the past...and what was the result or how did such pronouncements occur??..........

Let's read the book isaiah 34:9 $ 10....
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9 And the streams thereof shall be turned
into pitch, and the dust thereof into
brimstone, and the land thereof shall become
burning pitch. 10 It shall not be quenched night
nor day; the smoke thereof shall go up for
ever: from generation to generation it shall lie
waste ; none shall pass through it for ever and
ever.
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that scripture up there was a prophecy Showing the purnishment the nation EDOM would undergo because of there bile towards ISREAL...........

If I may ask you mr IMAGE12345.........was EDOM literally hurled into some mythical hellfire to burn forever because isaiah says that its people and there land would become a burning pitch and that this fire would never be quenched and that its smoke would go up forever and ever??...........

let me help you out with the answer incase you wanna end up blind folding your eyes to clear truths in the scriptures.....the next 2 verses solves the puzzle........verses 11 and 12 reads::::
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34:11 But the cormorant and the bittern
shall possess it; the owl also and the
raven shall dwell in it: and he shall
stretch out upon it the line of confusion,
and the stones of emptiness.
34:12 They shall call the nobles thereof
to the kingdom, but none shall be there,
and all her princes shall be nothing.
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The final result of EDOM was emptiness,wasteness and nothingness......total destruction............
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You haven't still answered if DEATH and GRAVE would also undergo this literal torment as well..........because the last time we checked satan ,the wild beast and also death and hades are occupants of the lake of fire.........would death and hades also be tormented??.........
Christianity EtcRe: Bible Explains Why The White Man Is An Atheist And Why The Black Man Is Poor by ijawkid(m): 11:25pm On Jan 05, 2013
obadiah777: HEY BROBRO. I HAVE BEEN HERE AND FRONTPAGE. LOL.TRUST ALL IS WELL BRUV grin
I dey o.....just trying to be the ijaw man that I am.......grin.....

This your thread is for logicboy and his cohorts....grin
Christianity EtcRe: Yes, Gay Priests Can Become Bishops –church Of England by ijawkid(m): 7:37pm On Jan 05, 2013
Smh

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