₦airaland Forum

okunoba:
We humans only see what we want to see. Looking forward to a good objective analysis of Sanusi`s writings, so far most of the replies to this thread have been disappointing, to say the least.

Beaf:
And your own "brilliant" contributions have been absent?

Abi o

Okunoba,please start the 'good objective analysis'. . . . . . . .

michelin89:
@ congoshine

Yeah I remember insulting you on various occasions. Doh, take heart eh.

@ Lexi

Ahahhahahha! Say I need a boyfriend. Maybe.

I saw it on CNNbackstory 2 days ago & was waiting for the clip to be available. . .

The gov should be ashamed really . . .

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He's one of the few Nigerians playing at the highest level. . .

Lagosboy:
just a jump into NL Milkneasy i will reply in more detail tmr

@Illusion
That is not true, it is a general misconception and i repeat it is not ANYONE. I do not wan tto digress the issue at hand i suggest you go to the islamic section as there is a thread on there currently by Richyblack on this issue and read some insightful posts of muslims on the issue. If you dont understand it i take it on myself to explain in more detail to you if you require.
I am no fan of Ataturk and i have read his history and i know more than half the turkish population do not like him either for his views. Otherwise the AK party will not have been voted to power in the first instance and erdogan will not be prime minister.]
The issue i repeat should not be about sharia and lets refocus to the CBN governors role as a CBN governor.

Unfortunately,the issue IS abt Sharia,I'll follow up on Islam section on killing of apostates,however,your view of Ataturk is really off the mark I wonder if you sure of what you are saying.

The country IS NAMED after him,he died over 70 years ago !!! Erodogan's party can never win anything if they as much as fail to recognise him.

Have you been to Turkey before?? Well I have & u dare not mention Atarturk's name casually,so saying he's not loved 'by half of the population is very ,very wrong!!

The point I'm making is that Turkey is 98% Muslim,half of our population,but more than 3 times our GDP. A developed economy in its own right. They have succeded becos they recognised very early(thanks to Atarturk),that religion & politics shouldn't mix,added to the fact that they resisted the inflence of 'Arabic Culture'.

But in Nigeria (as rightly identified by Sanusi in one of his write-ups) we are the holiest people in the world,we take our religion seriously ^{as well as our corruption} .

I visited kano some years back & was shocked that street signs were written in ARABIC  NOT HAUSA,tell me what does that tell you about religion & nation building. . .this in a state with over 60% illiteracy 

You said  :

generalzango:
Don't mind thez idiots,it's better to be an almajiri,than to produce fake and sub-standed products. Go and find out what ALMAJIRI really mean lol.

& I asked :

illusion2:
Foolish boy. . . .can your children do ALMAJIRI ?

How can u say one evil is better than the other? Its just like saying kidnapping is better than armed robbery. . . NEITHER is good,so stop glorifyig rubbish !! If the no-good 'holy' govs up north could make EDUCATION compulsory(with at least one school meal),we won't have all these nonsense. Rather myopic & parochial MTFs rationalise evil with religion. . . .  . Shame on you ,if you're in this category. . .ALMAJIRI IS NOT JUSTIFIABLE FOR ANY REASON,THERE'S NO ALMAJIRI IN SAUDI ARABIA !!!

LagosBoy,
while I appreciate your love & defence of you religion,I must tell you this is a very serious issue which we must all sit down to analyse seriously. Now tell me: Sharia isn't been practised in Lagos stae,does that mean all the muslims in Lagos are somehow lesser muslims

The moment we dissociate ourselves from these parochial thinking the better.

I suggest you read about the life of [url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mustafa_Kemal_Atat%C3%BCrk]Mustapa Kemal Ataturk[/url],the father of Turkey & how he emphasised Turkish SECULARITY over islam,he forsaw the problems associated with mixing religion with politics.

For example according to Sharia,anyone that converts from Islam is supposed to be put to death !!!   Doesn't that contradict frredom of religion guaranteed under the Nigerian constitution??

Everybody should practise his religion in his house & place of worship,don't impose it on people ,or else. . . . .

generalzango:
Don't mind thez idiots,it's better to be an almajiri,than to produce fake and sub-standed products. Go and find out what ALMAJIRI really mean lol.

Foolish boy. . . .can your children do ALMAJIRI ?

i have enjoyed the write-ups,can't believe I spent over an hour reading through it all. . . ,  thank you Jarus 

he's brilliant ,but not intelligent as succintly analysed by Papabrowne.

has a clear grasp of the issues and certainly outspoken.

He certainly qualifies as a 'Northern Progressive'

however,

he's wrong on the need for Sharia,as clearly identified by him,the Yorubas live very well together,irrespective of religion,becos they tend to identify themselves first as Yoruba people & then as religious people. This is the secret in 'secular' muslim countries like Egypt,Syria,Lebanon.
And until the Muslim northerners take this same approach . .  .there will be problems,becos its difficult to enforce such laws (developed over 1,000 years ago) in the today's world. . . . . . . . . ^{case in point is the recent arrest,prosecution & conviction of a Sudanese woman for putting on trousers} .

Apart from that ,he's cool  

Depilot:
To answer your question:
This is the list of missing things: Lack of natural bullheadedness, lack of pure dedication, lack of prodigious vision, lack of gigantic stamina and lack of immense wisdom.
Also lack of genuine leadership.

Lai wowe !

candylips:
mukina the cow  

I'd prefer cow over goat anyday sha  

Pataki:
Not necessarily true.

Hire the best of brains, and see whether it would not succeed.

True. . , . its just determination & a CAN DO spirit. . . . & most importantly remove government ineptitude

mukina2:
oya no wound

Wound ke. . .? Na ban be dat !

mukina2:
candy the goat
instigator

Slap1,everything in your post belies any iota of rational thinking . . . . I hiss in Hausa !

Bialegend:
I didn't see anything electricity related on your post above. Can you pinpoit it please.

The point he is making is[i] if [/i] Adenuga(& his company Glo) could single handedly embark on this feat of no mean proportion. . . then they could _{emphasis on could} tackle the perennial & ubiquitous lack of power in the country. . .QED 

[quote author=Gold-mind link=topic=319730.msg4503601#msg4503601 date=1252415564]Nigeria looks impossible as a progressive nation. Honestly we are just bitting about the bush. Corrupt leaders, corrupt security network yet we are calling on foreign investors.[/quote]There's a popular proverb from my part of town. . . it translates literaly as " two people in a dialogue cannot be deceived by lies;either the person telling the lie knows its a lie,or the person hearing the lie,will know its a lie",

Even if our shallow leaders don't know they are lying about the state of affairs,the 'foreign investor' knows what is happening.

mukina2:
Illusion
sharap dia

Okay ma. . . as per super moderator levels. . . .won't take it from anyone else

Adulterous mother found :

really sad. . . .how are you doing now jejelola?

For all those who post without reading through previos posts. . .  . .take ya time o !

NOBODY IS BLAMING ANY PLAYER FOR THE TUNISIA DRAW (at least Im not) ,personally I would lay any blames at the doorstep of the coaching crew,cos they choose the team,tactics etc. . .

Now back to Mikel & his game before & after his Chelsea move. . . .

mukina2:
who send you message?

Abi now. . . . .

Gayigaskia:
To illusion2:
AND MANY OF YOUR SISTERS SELL SEX IN THOSE COUNTRIES YOU JUST CITED

U're obviously not lettered. . . I can't join issues with u ! Get behind me Boko Haram

SeanT21:
Is Lagos not in Nigeria?? is Nigeria not their country??

no its not. . .many of them are from Niger,Chad & Burkina faso. . . . . we have extremely porous borders up north & almost every hausa/fulani man has relatives in those countries, . . .

^{[sup]its quite obvious 'candylips' is seeking attention & the ladies aint giving him any. . . . .na waoooooo} [/sup]

dipo2much:
Mikel Obi's talent is as an attacking midfiled player. We all saw what he did in the WYC then.He is can give a deadly pass for an average striker to look like the best.But Mourinho messed him up. I am sure by now mikel cannot play as a midfielder again. He just wouldnt be as creative as he was.
What he specialises in now is making stupid tackles and trying to be a tout like ballack

Mourinho didn't mess him up , he chose Chelsea over Man U,its his decision,he has to live with it or take another decision. . . . .

punch isn't serious. . . . .I hope they have put enough thought into it sha!!

Afam:
Funny enough we fail to realize that the same police we criticize is simply a product of our environment and actually represents a mirror image.
I don't offer bribes to policemen or NEPA officials and I don't give them even when they ask.
Nigerians want others to fight their fights even if it means dying for them so that they can enjoy themselves.
I really pity people who contribute to the mess and when challenged begin to attempt to justify their actions or inactions.

@ Afam,I like your boldness & some of your views. Insisting on NOT paying bribes is the way to go. . . but arguing or trying to prove a point with an illiterate policeman who has absolutely no positive prognosis of the future,is pure madness !!

Do you know 80% of the really horrible armed robbery are committed by or in connivance with 'policemen'?

Believe me its not worth it,your death (God forbid) may be worth it in a reasonable country that values the life of every individual,I dnt need to tell you all the people that have been shot 'accidentally' or framed as armed robbers resisting arrest. . . .after they died what happened Look Nigeria isn't worth it for now. . . . . The policemen you are talking with have NOTHING going for them-NOTHING,poor pay,no training etc, please to the poster & everyone ,do all u can to avoid these mad people.

Just visit the dentist na. . . . . .duh !

KnowAll:
how u take know say na mallam i no know
Most Ghanians know a Nigerian of Northern Extraction, as suppose to a southerner. The man was said to be in his 50's but had a young wife, my gut feeling went to Yuguda and his young Yardua bride, only a guess but definately a Northerner according to the source.

_{I can't believe Im still responding to this thread}. . . . ,both u & the cab driver are jobless . . . .

agabaI23:
That guy would have been better without Chelsea. He was destroyed by Mourinho.

how & why bro?

Personally,i believe his move to chelsea adverselt affected his style of play:

Chelsea play 4-3-3 formation ,where the defensive midfielder is essentially an extra defender allowing the 2 other midfielders go on the offensive. This formation limits the movement of the defensive midfielder cos he's essentially tasked with breaking down opposition play.

If he had gone to Man U however,they play typical (until recently with the exit of Ronaldo) 4-4-2 just like Nigeria,the 'defensive midfielder' here apart from breaking down play also initiates attack along side the central attacking midfielder (No 10 )

So Mikel may have fitted our style of play better if he had moved to Man U or a similar team where his solid ball skills (control,holding the ball & above average passing) would have come out.

Like most Nigerians,i was really disappointed in the performance of the Eagles ^{lets leave Super out of it for now} yesterday & the likelyhood of us failing to qualify for the World Cup in SA 2010. 

However ,one player has been singled out for criticism out of the whole lot - Mikel Obi.
There is a school of thought that says ,his move to Chelsea (then under Jose Mourinho) screwed up his playing style by turning a potentially skillful attacking midfielder into a rather slow & immobile defensive player.
The other school of thought disagrees with this view . . . 

So tell me which side are u on - with reasons of course ?