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[quote author=*dhtml]Abeg play lotto jare, earn big and build your own church - call it - The Lotto Church.

You bible people self, na everything dey evil. From watching Television. Me personalmente do not see anything wrong in playing lotto. If lotto is wrong, then it is wrong to invest in stocks too - because it is a form of lotto.

Now, can someone answer me this question - is making bombs demonic too? Because i am aware that bombs are used in mining.[/quote]thought explosives were used in mining. just saying

[quote author=Mr_Anony]Good. Your definition is now clear. The necessity that counts is that of the owner of the suit case. Good and evil here will be measured by how much the two men have offended the owner. Mind you, the two people have not seen touched or experienced the suitcase owner but they have deduced that he must exist because his suitcase exists and therefore they go ahead and do right by the yet unseen owner.

In the same way, we are observers of creation. Because we see creation, we deduce that there must be a creator and because He owns everything, it is His necessity that counts and so we do right by Him. That is what it means to be good.

The man that is evil is the man that says that the suitcase cannot possibly have an owner and as a result he can do whatever he likes with the suitcase and it's contents

That is the message Image123 was trying to pass across. It appears that once again, you have agreed with me. Sorry for reading you wrong, i thought you were an atheist. My mistake[/quote]checkmate

truthislight: if this is your stand why then did someone called for your "head"?

they can't stand real christians. he'd rather I'm in prison or dead if he could.

muskeeto2: Yeah, just like being unoriginal is in nature and handle... keep living a copied life...

you'll never beat davidylan at trolling.. but you can keep trying.. lol.

trolling you? you overrate yourself.

muskeeto2: Image123 is not worth my time. One of the most confused dudes on this section.

muske, what happened to your other handle? you did something evil? i understand it's in your nature. Did you just state that I'm one of those that confuse you the most? pele biko.

Logicboy03: The irony is that the dumbazz called Image123 will say that he believes in equality and fair treatment when he is a bigot who is intolerant of Atheists, agnostics and Buddhists

where have i been? I'm just seeing this thread. i didn't mean to break your evil heart. There is none good, no, not one!

it's ungodly, are you godly?

You use a windows or a mac computer. Are Bill Gates and Steve Jobs evil because of their godlessness?

You love to speak bereft of all logic, ithink you should be banned for using a username with 'logic' in it. How does a mac or window have to do with godlessness? you have used this weak argument before, and it has been shredded for the folly it is. A mac or windows or android or whatever OS does not equal to godlessness. they were not made or produced or discovered based on godlessness. there is nothing godlessness has to do with it. And you should not be so ignorant as to think that only atheists work in Microsoft, or for Apple or Linux, or the other gadgets you may like to mention. people from all walks of life, both godly and ungodly work together in research, programming, study and co. Anyone who does not believe in God or accept Jesus as Saviour is godless/ungodly irrespective of whether he has discovered the whole world or discovered zilch.
Luk 9:25 For what is a man advantaged, if he gain the whole world, and lose himself, or be cast away?
ANSWER: Hell Fire

64% percent of Japanese do not believe in god, are they evil?

Anyone, anywhere who does not believe in God, japanese or sudanese is not seen as good before God. What makes one good is God, not our actions or inactions, good or bad.
1Co 13:3 And though I bestow all my goods to feed the poor, and though I give my body to be burned, and have not charity, it profiteth me nothing.
God is Love, and if you don't have God, you don't have the required love.

You know, your reasoning is very shallow. You need to stop this christian bigotry and foolishness. u whole life is surrounded by products from people who dont believe in God, yet you call them evil. Think before you talk.

find your way out of here myfriend. You no see science section, or phones section, or politics sections to go discuss? Coming to a religion section of the forum to promote irreligion? What a pompous irony you are.

What in your god's blue earth kind of reasoning is this?
When atheists point out religion rots the mind, they think we're being dramatic. Un-f****g-believable

Who is this miserable unbeliever? abeg, go and play on the front page or something. What are you doing clicking the 'Religion' tab? Why come to a place where your mind can rotten more and more and more forever and ever?

so i don turn to wanted for here. sorry i am not a 'tithing teacher', whatver that means.

Yeeeeaaaaaaaa,see as all of them dey hyperventilate. Pride dey make their blood dey boil. thank God for internet, i for just quickly become another martyr like Stephen my bro. i can't be here arguing colours with the blind oh. Thank God, i have other responsibilities.

He doesn't know when the end will come........

Have you not been reading??......

was it the koran i quoted or osew yaw ababio? Jesus became man, humbled Himself, became obedient to death, made Himself of no reputation. but it is shown in scriptures that in flashes, the disciples recognised that intrinsically He is God.
Joh 16:30 Now are we sure that thou knowest all things, and needest not that any man should ask thee: by this we believe that thou camest from God.
Joh 21:17 He saith to him the third time, Simon son of Jonas, lovest thou me? Peter was grieved, because he said to him the third time, Lovest thou me? And he said to him, Lord, thou knowest all things; thou knowest that I love thee. Jesus saith to him, Feed my sheep.
Joh 20:28 And Thomas answered and said unto him, My Lord and my God.
THREE WITNESSES, I MUST NOT SHOUT

Aramaic Bible in plain Engrish? Is that a joke? These guys and their stunts, you should work with the circus iadvice. The NT was not even written in aramaic if my history serves in right. i think only Daniel, Esther or so. But i trust you guys to bring up only translations that foster your slow goals.

1. Putting the Lord to the test
2. To be tempted with evil.

Rabbi, come and teach us ohhh. Is it JAMB or post-UTME? Tempt dey make you stammer like this? When you were throwing the word, you did not know abi?

It should actually be sanctify the Lord Jesus in your hearts , this means to revere him , to honour him in a holy way within your heart out of reverence.

This is the type that will make some of my pals to shout EEEEEEEEIIOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!! This guy go soon write Bible, very soon.
Okay take this ones join your twists.
Num 20:12 And the LORD spoke unto Moses and Aaron, Because ye believed me not, to sanctify me in the eyes of the children of Israel, therefore ye shall not bring this congregation into the land which I have given them.
Isa 8:13 Sanctify the LORD of hosts himself; and let him be your fear, and let him be your dread.
Eze 38:23 Thus will I magnify myself, and sanctify mysel[/b]f; and I will be known in the eyes of many nations, and they shall know that I am the LORD.
Joh 17:19 And for their sakes I [b]sanctify myself, that they also might be sanctified through the truth.

we do know the Lord GOD is not a MAN.

So you want to erase that scripture? Ask jawk to borrow you more Bible versions ehn. It's the same word the writer used as MAN in Numbers that he also used as MAN here. the point is the unobvious mystery or as the unbeliever may call it a contradiction, but i see that you will not see it, because you're eyes are closed, and ears blocked.

Jesus is immortal NOW , he was mortal as a MAN which is why he died , no ?

Ask Bible oh, or ask Paul, or ask a good english teacher abi na me talk am? Who is the subject of the passage?

Talking of context, and scriptures agreeing with scriptures,
I give thee charge in the sight of God, who quickeneth all things, and [before] Christ Jesus, who before Pontius Pilate witnessed a good confession;
That thou keep [this] commandment without spot, unrebukeable, until the appearing of our Lord Jesus Christ:
Which in his times he shall shew, [who is] the blessed and only Potentate, the King of kings, and Lord of lords;
Who only hath immortality, dwelling in the light which no man can approach unto; whom no man hath seen, nor can see: to whom [be] honour and power everlasting. Amen.
You need to buy you "Brighter Grammar", i'm not sure you can download it online.
Rev 17:14 These shall make war with the Lamb, and the Lamb shall overcome them: for he is Lord of lords, and King of kings: and they that are with him are called, and chosen, and faithful.
Rev 19:16 And he hath on his vesture and on his thigh a name written, KING OF KINGS, AND LORD OF LORDS.

Thou knowest all things through the Spirit of GOD that dwells in HIM for

see super story oh, so that Spirit of GOD was missing when He said "nobody knows the time"? You are the one who needs a course in context, the context of Son of man, Son of God, and God the Son.

I want to ask trinitarians....who is this GOD alone??

Jesus denies being all GOOD(not that Jesus is bad).....but attributes all -goodness to the one and only YAHWEH.

if i told you, you would not believe.
Joh 12:39 Therefore they could not believe, because that Isaiah said again,
Joh 12:40 He hath blinded their eyes, and hardened their heart; that they should not see with their eyes, nor understand with their heart, and be converted, and I should heal them.

Other scriptures for the benefits of those that can see in humility, the mystery of godliness.

The Bible is the Word of the Trinity. It is God the Father talking, the Son talking, the Spirit talking.
Rev 2:11 He that hath an ear, let him hear what the Spirit saith unto the churches; He that overcometh shall not be hurt of the second death.

Ananias and Sapphira lied to the Trinity.
Act 5:3 But Peter said, Ananias, why hath Satan filled thine heart to lie to the Holy Ghost, and to keep back part of the price of the land?
Act 5:4 While it remained, was it not thine own? and after it was sold, was it not in thine own power? why hast thou conceived this thing in thine heart? thou hast not lied unto men, but unto God.

Our body is the temple of the Trinity
1Jo 4:4 Ye are of God, little children, and have overcome them: because greater is he that is in you, than he that is in the world.
1Co 6:19 What? know ye not that your body is the temple of the Holy Ghost which is in you, which ye have of God, and ye are not your own?
1Co 3:16 Know ye not that ye are the temple of God, and that the Spirit of God dwelleth in you?


The Spirit of God is the Spirit of the Father and the Son. They said it is unreasonable for God to have two Spirits, we tell dem say not even two, na Seven.
Galat 4:6 And because ye are sons, God hath sent forth the Spirit of his Son into your hearts, crying, Abba, Father.
1Pe 1:11 Searching what, or what manner of time the Spirit of Christ which was in them did signify, when it testified beforehand the sufferings of Christ, and the glory that should follow.
Rev 3:1 And unto the angel of the church in Sardis write; These things saith he that hath the seven Spirits of God, and the seven stars; I know thy works, that thou hast a name that thou livest, and art dead.

Waaaaaaoh, the Spirit of Christ was in the old testament prophets, and here i was all this while thinking it was the Spirit of God. Okay, Christ is God i recall.

Heb 3:3 For this man was counted worthy of more glory than Moses, inasmuch as he who hath builded the house hath more honor than the house.
Heb 3:4 For every house is builded by some man; but he that built all things is God.
Who is He that built all things, without whom there was not any made that was made? (Col 1:16 For by him were all things created, that are in heaven, and that are in earth, visible and invisible, whether they be thrones, or dominions, or principalities, or powers: all things were created by him, and for him. )
The Christ Jesus is God and Lord.
Mar 12:29 And Jesus answered him, The first of all the commandments is, Hear, O Israel; The Lord our God is one Lord:

Without a doubt, there is some puzzling, some mystery. Even the great scholar and apostle Paul says
1Ti 3:16 And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness: God was manifest in the flesh, justified in the Spirit, seen of angels, preached unto the Gentiles, believed on in the world, received up into glory.

Anti-trinity folks say there is no mystery anywhere, and they misapply and twist Paul's writing that God is not a God of confusion. Peter warned us of them, and apostle John told us about God the Son.They accuse everybody and find fault with all versions and translations. they pat themselves in the back and 'like' each other's post on nl as if to add weight to their logic. Fleshly minded fellows.

2Pe 3:16 As also in all his epistles, speaking in them of these things; in which are some things hard to be understood, which they that are unlearned and unstable wrest, as they do also the other Scriptures, unto their own destruction.


1Jo 5:20 And we know that the Son of God is come, and hath given us an understanding, that we may know him that is true, and we are in him that is true, even in his Son Jesus Christ. This is the true God, and eternal life.
1Jo 5:7 For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one.

i so love the work my brother Ola is doing here. Though, imust unfortunately say that a blind man is blind, whether you show him from afar, or from anear, or from above, or from azoom, or from angles 90, 180, 45, any angle, any colour. the blind man is blind. He needs revelation. If it was a problem of poor vision, they might have profited from meditation. But this is a problem of NO vision.
Luke 6:39 And he spoke a parable to them; Can the blind lead the blind? will they not both fall into the ditch?
the Word remains but a parable to them.

They have told us Jesus is not almighty, so He is not God. We have shown them
Rev 1:8 I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the ending, saith the Lord, who is, and who was, and who is to come, the Almighty.

They have told us Jesus can be tempted, so He is not God. We have shown them
Act 15:10 Now therefore why tempt ye God, to put a yoke upon the neck of the disciples, which neither our fathers nor we were able to bear?
Psa 78:56 Yet they tempted and provoked the most high God, and kept not his testimonies:

They have told us Jesus can be sanctified, so He is not God. We have shown them
1Pe 3:15 But sanctify the Lord God in your hearts: and be ready always to give an answer to every man that asketh you a reason of the hope that is in you, with meekness and fear.

They have told us that Jesus is a man, so He is not God. We have shown them
Exo 15:3 The LORD is a man of war: the LORD is his name.

They have told us that Jesus is not immortal, so He is not God. We have shown them
1Ti 6:14 That thou keep this commandment without spot, unrebukable, until the appearing of our Lord Jesus Christ:
1Ti 6:15 Which in his times he will show who is the blessed and only Potentate, the King of kings, and Lord of lords;
1Ti 6:16 Who only hath immortality, dwelling in the light which no man can approach; whom no man hath seen, nor can see: to whom be honor and power everlasting. Amen.

They have told us that Jesus does not know everything, so He is not God. We have shown them
Joh 16:30 Now are we sure that thou knowest all things, and needest not that any man should ask thee: by this we believe that thou camest from God.
Joh 21:17 He saith to him the third time, Simon son of Jonas, lovest thou me? Peter was grieved, because he said to him the third time, Lovest thou me? And he said to him, Lord, thou knowest all things; thou knowest that I love thee. Jesus saith to him, Feed my sheep.

They have been blind to these things, but they are no left with an excuse or a witness.
Act 14:17 Nevertheless he left not himself without witness, in that he did good, and gave us rain from heaven, and fruitful seasons, filling our hearts with food and gladness.
SHAME TO YOU SATAN, HALLELUYAH.

MacDaddy01: Image123!!!


Seriously?


Godlessness is not a bad thing. There is a difference between Godlessness and evil. I am godless. Do you have the guts to call me evil or immoral?



Now, what was the use of flooding the earth to remake another exact one? There was no difference.

If you are godless, you are evil. you can't write words without alphabets. God is good, and anything outside God is not good.
Matthew 19:17 And he said to him, Why callest thou me good? there is none good but one, that is, God: but if thou wilt enter into life, keep the commandments.
God is the Father and the Source of good. Any other good is a counterfeit. It is to you that this passage in scripture was written,
1Jo 1:8 If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us.
1Jo 1:9 If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.
1Jo 1:10 If we say that we have not sinned, we make him a liar, and his word is not in us.

frosbel: Brilliant stuff !!

are you saying that Jesus is God?

the thread title is not so true, but in any case. It may be because they would both likely grant the pastor audience and take to his advice.

@OP and co,

Someone correct me if I'm wrong but wouldn't this also include preaching? If yes, then why are there so many female pastors today? Or am I just misinterpreting all this?

Sure, infact preaching is the core of the message here

1Co 14:34 Let your women keep silence in the churches: for it is not permitted unto them to speak; but they are commanded to be under obedience, as also saith the law.
1Co 14:35 And if they will learn any thing, let them ask their husbands at home: for it is a shame for women to speak in the church.
The writer of the epistle uses the law(the Old Testament) to validate and strengthen His command. He says "as also saith the law". It's not just the view of one man but of the whole Word of God. Women are not NORMALLY put in the position of leadership by God, it's very rare. Of the course, once in a while, where there is no man able, available or capable to lead, then God ,may choose a woman to lead, but this is very rare, unlike the case that the OP noted that there are MANY FEMALE PASTORS TODAY. The Word/command is further corroborated in the passage below.

1Ti 2:11 Let the woman learn in silence with all subjection.
1Ti 2:12 But I suffer not a woman to teach, nor to usurp authority over the man, but to be in silence.
1Ti 2:13 For Adam was first formed, then Eve.
1Ti 2:14 And Adam was not deceived, but the woman being deceived was in the transgression.
i mean. if these passages were found in the old testament only, many may have some cause to dismiss it. But behold, two New Testament passages stare us in the face with the same thing. Unfortunately, many people are involved in a work that has no reward from God.

What do you suppose should be the woman's role in the church?

There are a million other roles in the church of God than to stand in the pulpit to teach or preach, or to pastor a congregation. It's like Adam and Eve, having many trees, all the trees in the planet Earth, but one. But they decided they needed to have that one tree badly. In the church of God, there are so many noble things to do. Firstly, in authority, the woman can head other women. The woman can lead children. In most churches, the women and the children are often more than the men. So obviously, a woman can lead a large percentage of the congregation.
The woman can evangelise, she is needed to 'win souls'. Talk about the BILLIONs of people, men and women that need to hear of the Saviour. Every believer is urgently needed in this field. The woman can travel from place to place, organise crusades, touch nations as it were in gospel propagation.
The woman can give, like those women that ministered to Jesus of their substance, and the woman whom Jesus said her deed of giving would be mentioned everywhere. There is a lot of need, this is a big role God is looking for any of His children to play, including women.
The woman can pray. My God! i know of no ministry as important as the ministry of prayer. We can go the length of the page expounding on the necessity of prayer. Your prayer can revive your church. your prayer can touch hearts that your teaching, and pulpit ministry may never touch.
The woman can sing. What good choir does not need a woman? Have you ever noted a man with an angelic voice? very rare iguess. But how common it is to refer to a woman's voice as angelic. We need angelic voices in the church. Forget all those fantasies of shouting from the pulpit that makes the voice hoarse and coarse. Give your voice the needed training, and put the church, even the world at your feet. What you doing, blind lady Fanny composed those thousands of songs, and you never composed one chorus yet. Na so so backup singer and dancer women dey line up for studio. Give us new hymns and songs, that will enter the spirit and blast into heaven. Sing let the angels pause to hear you.
The woman can be a good example to everyone in the church. You can even save an unbelieving husband by your conversation, so says the Bible. You can be a good example to others around you, women, men, young girls and boys, children. Let the children look up to you. Let them learn good things from you. Let them want to dress like you, talk like you, even walk like you. Children crave role models, and the ministry of teaching them majorly falls on the female folk, even more than the schools and the church building.
The woman can clean the church, just like the man and any other. Sweeping, gardening, landscaping, mopping, washing etc are done in your church i believe. You too can be in the cleaning department, or in the ushers department, abi no bi human being dey there? Drop your ogaHOOD at work, and come and display real labour in church sister.
There are many other things that are done in churches, or even lacking in churches that a woman can do. Find a need, walk up to the elders in charge, fulfil the need.

we should always pray and not faint.yes, we should even intensify our prayers. but there's no base for the theory proposed above. devil is a tirelessly wicked spirit with many willing workers dedicated to his cause and course.The whole world, not just Nigeria, lies in wickedness. Christians should be watchful and not worldly, but busily expecting the Christ. maranatha.
there's wickedness, death and killings everyday. Though for selfish and corrupt interests, some get more highlighted in the media than others.

ayobase: Confession!

is it okay to sing it during praise or worship?

MacDaddy01: It is not satan or boko haram that will destroy Nigeria at the end of the day.

It will be brainwashed sheep like some of the dumbazzes here that will contribute to the collapse of Nigeria because of their ignorance to their enslavement to this illogical faith.


I dont know whether to weep or to laugh at some of the illogical answers given here.


-Why would God flood the whole earth only to have a similar one replace it? If the flood was to punish the unrighteous then why create the same unrighteousness again? Another question is that were the children that died in the flood not inncoent?


Simple questions that baffle the faithful!

the then world was blazing towards complete godlessness at a pace not planned. innocent children would be spared of a hopeless ETERNITY.

Ecclesiastes 12:13 Let us hear the conclusion of the whole matter: Fear God, and keep his commandments: for this is the whole duty of man.
this is the purpose for existence.

ok oh. surprise them with d David in you then.

Proverbs 9:12 If thou be wise, thou shalt be wise for thyself: but if thou scornest, thou alone shalt bear it.

we're making significant progress in the human race from God.

Goshen360: Great!

my bros, how you dey?

@op,
what's d definition of contentment and do you have a library of any single Nigerian pastor's messages to concluded that he, not to drag in all others, does not preach contentment?

why would you also want to marry an HIV+ person na?

@op
yes. The flood was a judgment of the unrighteous, not a putting of an end to sin.

draw me nearer, nearer Blessed Lord, is it praise or worship?

comic

once upon a time, ..... time time.

ChrisGnarly: the truth is that any church founded by man is "is a bussiness venture" blv it or leave it. if trully you want to worship God in spirit and in truth look for the church founded by christ himself. visit www.worldbibleschool.com or www.truthfortheworld.com or simply visit any church of christ nearest to you. you cannot and will nt be able to worship God in spirit and in truth in any church owned by man, you have been jumpping from one church to another visit the links or search for any church of christ close to you or you can call or text me on 08026991115 i can help you out. ye shall know the truth and the truth shall set you free

heeeeey, I'm Open to learning oh. which of this websites you're directing us to is not founded by man? Which one be church of christ? no be cele be that? is this church founded by angel or animal?

funny thread, moving to comedy section soonest.