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I wanted verse or chapter studies na. |
goshen360: New testament started in Acts 2. Hence Matthew 28 is Old in Context.Whao, new testament starts in Acts 2? That's funny, really. On the day of Pentecost? You're kidding, right? Any scripture to support this? And BTW, what's the significance/relevance/importance of the gospels been placed as OT? Many questions already, make i hit reply button. |
mazaje: I hope you die and go to heaven tomorrow. .. . .That's very sweet of you mazaje. Fortunately, it's in God's hands when i die and go home. Tomorrow would be fine BTW. I wish you could also hope and pray that Jesus should come soon and put an end to this hopeless world. |
Okay goshen, Is Matthew 28 new testament or old testament? |
Pastor Kun: Stop talking like a heretic, people give money in church based on the understanding that church leaders can be trusted in judiciously using the money in furtherance of the gospel(which includes assisting the poor). People don't expect the church leaders to turn around and use church money for profit making ventures. If we can demand for accountability from our political leaders how much more christian leaders who are expected to be of higher standard. Your hypocritical position is like a govt official telling us it is none of our business what govt does with our Taxes since the money belongs to govt.Furtherance of what? The OP's on collecting money for building schools, and the church giving back. The members are usually aware of what their donations is for, and they were not promised free education. Even the church members no complain. What they're doing is BTW, nobody send them, so it's wrong to want to impose on them how they should spend school money. |
goshen360: How are they new? If you get my point though, then treat my point. Let's give people revelation not religion. I can pull many scriptures to tell you it is Old Testament apart from the Hebrews verses used to prove they are Old Testament. You've to dig deep brother,lol. You know you don't get water on the surface. Rivers of living waters don't come to flow by scratching the surface, it flows by opening the source and the "container" being turned up side down.One, is that they are placed in the new testament, not in the old testament by people who know more than us. Two, is that they were written during the new testament dispensation, making them new testament books. Three, is that you and other proponents of the gospels are OT would agree that not all the book is OT from your definition of OT. I mean if your definition is that NT begins after the cross, some verses and chapters of Matthew, Mark ,Luke and John are after the cross. Four, is that most are not even agreed on the time the NT began. Is it at Calvary, after Christ's death, after His ressurection, after His ascension? When? i will come to other reasons later but let me deal with this below Hebrews 9: 15 ¶ And for this cause he is the mediator of the new testament, that by means of death, for the redemption of the transgressions that were under the first testament, they which are called might receive the promise of eternal inheritance. 16 For where a testament is, there must also of necessity be the death of the testator. 17 For a testament is of force after men are dead: otherwise it is of no strength at all while the testator liveth. 5solas comes in with the men are dead reason, the question is IS JESUS DEAD OR ALIVE? |
diluminati: their monies? whose money are you talking about?The church's money, abi na your money? And don't come tell me you and fellow offering givers' money. Once you gave it,or paid it if you prefer that, it's no longer yours. |
unphilaz: @image i didnt mean you specifically but generally reading thru the OP's post, it has a fine line of a defeatist mentality to JUST accept suffering. To which i believe is not correct, considering the promises in scriptures. I believe that emphasis should not be on SUFFERING but on the glories that Christ brought via His gift of righteousness and let what ever follow.Okay, philaz |
^^Using 'trium' should be more sinful and vile, an unacceptable abominable action in very deed. |
Gosh, they're new. i get your point though |
Heaven's where i come from. There's no place like home. Over here, i'm a stranger. That i'm going home is enough to satisfy. In God's presence, there is fulness, sorry, fullness of joy. Over here on strange land, na so so intermittent joy with lotsa loads of toil, sin and temptation. |
God did not send anybody message of give rice and scholarship or whatever tb does for show. Show the world the fruits of christianity and it will applaud, show the world true christianity, it will hate and fight you to death. "If ye were of the world, the world would love his own: but because ye are not of the world, but I have chosen you out of the world, therefore the world hateth you. " (John 15:19). I'm not surprised the world loves and clamours for more tbS |
"For ye know the grace of our Lord Jesus Christ, that, though he was rich, yet for your sakes he became poor, that ye through his poverty might be rich." (2 Corinthians 8:9). |
^what is 'god delusion'? |
Did the churches promise free education when they were asking for funds(if they did) to build? People just think they have right to tell others how to spend their monies. |
Image123: Football is of the world, not of God. God has very little or nothing to do with it. There's a reason i include 'very little'. NOTE that i did not say football is a sin. I said football is of this world. And football, like it's origin will pass away. The god of this world runs things more in football, not God. That's why football can go and will go against God and godliness if necessary. Football and its participants will cheat, deceive, lie, gamble, bet, fight, hurt, disregard God and His worship without batting an eyelid. People like the nigerian team simply 'monkey'(deceive) atheists and their co-ignorant fellows when they come together and act like they're praying to some God/god. God does not hear the prayer of sinners, except it's something serious. |
Deep Sight: Which is, of course, ignorance.You're so on point deepS |
mazaje, i checked your link, shallow as forethought. Rationale there is that if Bible passages are similar or the same, one writer MUST have copied the other. If they are not the same or seem contradictory, then the Bible is fiction, and the writers were unaware of the happenings in the other books. Suit yourself and wear a cute bowtie to boot, none of these things move me. |
jidewin: Wow.really?.I have all along been thinking Printed materials are hardcopies while those on removeable media are softcopies. thanks for helping out.I appreciate.So on what basis do you now believe on the meaning of hardcopy and softcopy? That you saw something on the internet does not mean its true. |
^non belief in God/gods is ignorance. i'm loving the breakdown. What was the OP's question again? you know, have always questioned your comprehension. Not your brilliance, your comprehension. |
atheism is ignorance. And you show more ignorance when you imagine/believe that everytime the nigerian team gather before a match kicks off, they must be praying, and to God. The thread's question has already been answered. You did not bother to comment on the answer, all you did was what you do best, word picking. |
Pastor Kun: The businesses being owned by the ministry is mere rhetorics and dis honesty. The ministry is a personal property of Oledepo so what ever is owned by the 'ministry' is owned by Oledepo himself. It is also a filthy lie that the rogue doesn't collect salary as what he collects far exceeds salary. The criminal has unfettered access into the church accounts and he spends it as his personal funds without being questioned by the mo.rons he surrounds himself with. That aside you may wish to findout who the direct beneficiary of 'prophet's offering' which is regularly collected in all branches of winners.Stop trying to intimidate readers with your venom and boldface. Respect yourself and speak english, na fight? |
[quote author=Sisi_Kill]What he is trying to say is that hard copy is more RE than the soft copies, one can say soft copies are MI. . .now I'm not sure if both can be called DO, but I know for sure sure that in some circles, hard copies are seen as FA, these people thumb their noses at soft copies because they consider it SO. Of course there is another set who think both Soft and Hard copies are just LA and TI and that we call need to step up to DO. . .now this is where the good stuff is at.[/quote]Hahahaha. We go soon see "what are you singing?" |
Everybody queue, madman self follow. |
@kunle ithink i read on this thread, a member that said the same thing. It's not owned by the man but by the ministry. According to the member, he doesn't even collect salary. Well, no be me talk that one. @all Would you own a university if it was possible? Would you own an airline if it was possible? Many are just jealous like i said earlier. So like the guy who condemns A for opening shop and sell on the sabbath/sunday, but would go and buy on the sabbath/sunday without any/much guilt. HYPOCRITE. Jesus would add 'woe'. |
You study better with paper books than phone and computer, that's just BTW. |
^and we should derail the thread in defence of your ignorance? |
[quote author=Okija_juju]Its funny how people say their God is not a God of poverty yet only the pastor seems to be getting rich while the rest remain where they are. Even the richest amongst the members cant afford a Jet let alone 3 and these men actually own genuine businesses and work for reputable companies o!! Yet a Pastor with no known source of income except tithes and offering has built a university, bought 4 private jets, built a guiness book of records auditorium and now owns an airline. . I want the God of the pastor not that of his followers.[/quote]Oyedepo is the leader of livingfaith. That though should not be confused with personal belongings. Just like we attribute things done by the government to Goodluck Jonathan, or like we say Solomon built a temple even though he was not the one carrying ponpon and mixing cement. All the achievements are actually LivingFaith's or DOMI's and Oyedepo's the head, chairman, bishop, whatever title. Let's not mix the 'commission''s wealth with Oyedepo's personal bank account. |
^ That's why i said it depends on motive. It's inseparable when you throw in SIN. |
Ha, it's a different issue, very different. My JW at heart jibe is borne out of 'our past history', not a SERIOUS finality of judgement. |
Na wa o, people dey vex o, most of you are just jealous. Jealousy! JEALOUSY!!! If he used the money to feed you and your family instead, does not make him one centimeter closer to God or more righteous. When are christian folks going to believe that a man's life does not consist in the abundance of things he possesses. I'm not declaring him a saint or a sinner, but having this or not having that is not a good index for knowing genuine children of God, it's that simple sorry HARD. |
Football is of the world, not of God. God has very little or nothing to do with it. There's a reason i include 'very little'. NOTE that i did not say football is a sin. I said football is of this world. And football, like it's origin will pass away. The god of this world runs things more in football, not God. That's why football can go and will go against God and godliness if necessary. Football and its participants will cheat, deceive, lie, gamble, bet, fight, hurt, disregard God and His worship without batting an eyelid. People like the nigerian team simply 'monkey'(deceive) atheists and their co-ignorant fellows when they come together and act like they're praying to some God/god. God does not hear the prayer of sinners, except it's something serious. |
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