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 Politics › Re: Northern Nigerian Killer Muslims At Work Again by Iman3(m): 1:32pm On Oct 10, 2007 |
Ocho Cinco made this comment. . . .showing us his "knowledge" of the outside world. Indonesia is the worlds most populous Islamic country yet it has suffered only one significant terrorist attack in Bali.Bear in mind that this thread was prompted by sectarian violence in Kano-http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/asia-pacific/741986.stm Hundreds of members of a radical Islamic group who have threatened to launch a jihad - or holy war - in the Moluccan Islands are arriving in the region. The authorities are worried their arrival could spark yet another wave of communal violence. But they say they are powerless to stop them coming. The Moluccan, or Spice Islands as they were once known, have been wracked by violence between the Christian and Muslim communities since last year. About 2,500 people have already been killed. More than half a million people have been displaced in such fighting.Indonesia is 90% Muslim http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/static/events/indonesia_flashpoint/ambon.stm http://www.reliefweb.int/rw/RWB.NSF/db900SID/VBOL-6C2AQC?OpenDocument&rc=3&cc=idn |
| Politics › Re: Northern Nigerian Killer Muslims At Work Again by Iman3(m): 12:20am On Oct 10, 2007 |
WesleyanA:Most Muslim militants didn't grow up in Britain and France-the Kano rioters were not ex-residents of the 2 nations.Most grew up in Muslim majority societies. The issue of discrimination equally applies to Black Africans in Britain and France yet none has gained notoriety for religious violence. |
| Politics › Re: Northern Nigerian Killer Muslims At Work Again by Iman3(m): 11:59pm On Oct 09, 2007 |
grafikdon:In a teenager's logic. . . .anything is possible  |
| Politics › Re: Northern Nigerian Killer Muslims At Work Again by Iman3(m): 11:53pm On Oct 09, 2007 |
Teeny bopper is here! I wonder what Bush has to do with the events in Kano? |
| Islam › Re: Muslims: What Did You Learn In Islam Recently? by Iman3(m): 11:17pm On Oct 09, 2007 |
davidylan:There are a number of explanations. 1)They are closet Jews 2)They know nothing about Islam,seriously,how could they have arrived at the conclusions they have arrived at? Who should I listen to on Islam-Babs787 or the Islamic Jurisprudence Assembly? Figure that one out for me. |
| Islam › Re: Muslims: What Did You Learn In Islam Recently? by Iman3(m): 11:12pm On Oct 09, 2007 |
Ok,one last one. . . . not really related to religion http://www.khaleejtimes.com/DisplayArticle.asp?xfile=data/subcontinent/2006/April/subcontinent_April924.xml§ion=subcontinent&col= KARACHI - Isma Mahmood's world has come crumbling down, her hopes dashed to the ground. And all for no specific fault of her own. Isma, 16, was deported to Pakistan last month after having served six months in shackles and handcuffs in a prison in Saudi Arabia. Her crime - being attacked by a Saudi man. The women prisoners were mostly Pakistanis, Indonesians, Bangladeshis and Nigerians. "When I used to protest against the ill treatment they beat me on my back," Isma added. "We were chained all during this period. The only time jail officials removed the chain was during lunch or when anyone went to the bathroom or at prayer time," she said. "Once a jail official offered me help and assured me I would be released if I agreed to sleep with him. It has nothing to do with Islam,nothing. . . . the Saudi legal system is anchored on Judeo-Christian precepts. |
| Islam › Re: Muslims: What Did You Learn In Islam Recently? by Iman3(m): 11:04pm On Oct 09, 2007 |
I just had to post this. . . .didn't know whether to laugh or despair  ABU-DHABI, August 31 (RIA Novosti) - Saudi Arabia's religious police are insisting that authorities of Medina, one of Islam's holiest cities, should build separate sidewalks for women, the Kuwaiti Al-Qabas newspaper said Friday. The country's Committee for the Propagation of Virtue and the Prevention of Vice (CPVPV), tasked with enforcing Sharia law, believes men and women should not be allowed to mix on the streets of the Islam's second holiest place, where the Prophet Muhammad is buried. The clerical police, or Mutaween, are authorized to arrest unrelated men and women caught socializing, anyone suspected of being homosexual or a prostitute, and to enforce Islamic dress codes. The Mutaween enforce Islamic female dress codes, ordering women to wear headscarves and abayas, long black dresses covering the whole body except for face, hands and feet. Women are not allowed to leave their houses without their husbands or immediate male relatives. Saudi women are also not allowed to ride a bicycle or drive a car, because if the vehicle breaks down, a woman might have to talk to an unknown male. The police widely apply corporal punishment, including flogging, to punish suspected offenders. One of the most widely criticized incidents, involving women rights abuse, occurred on March 11, 2002, when schoolgirls were prevented from escaping a burning school in Mecca, because they were not wearing headscarves and abayas. Fifteen girls died and 50 were injured as a result. http://en.rian.ru/society/20070831/75912532.html |
| Islam › Re: Muslims: What Did You Learn In Islam Recently? by Iman3(m): 10:51pm On Oct 09, 2007 |
@babs787 . . . . .a la beat(lightly) in Sura 4:34 ,the parenthesis being a modern day invention. I saw this interesting gem-Religiously sanctioned harlotry: DUBAI (AFP) - The Mecca-based Islamic Jurisprudence Assembly announced on April 12 that so-called Misyar marriage -- from the colloquial Gulf Arabic word for visitor -- was permitted, drawing the ire of women in the region. http://news.sawf.org/Lifestyle/11089.aspx |
| Politics › Re: Lol: Igbo-made Jeep And Bus To Be Launched In December by Iman3(m): 10:30pm On Oct 09, 2007 |
Just because a vehicle is being assembled in Nigeria doesn't mean that important safety standards should be ignored.While we should not enforce standards as stringent as Western standards,we should endeavour to enforce certain minimum requirements for the purpose of safety. At least,the assembled vehicles should be better than the average Tokunbo vehicle brought into Nigeria |
| Politics › Re: Northern Nigerian Killer Muslims At Work Again by Iman3(m): 6:54pm On Oct 09, 2007 |
A speech from Osama Bin Laden.Note the copious references to the Koran Wouldn't it be best for moderate Muslims to address him on theological grounds? COME TO JIHAD: A SPEECH TO THE PEOPLE OF PAKISTAN All praise is due to Allah, we praise him and seek his aid and forgiveness, and we seek refuge in Allah from the evil in ourselves and from our bad deeds. He whom Allah guides cannot lead astray, and he who is led astray cannot be guided. I bear witness that there is no God other than Allah alone, without partners and I bear witness that Muhammad is his slave and messenger. To proceed: To My Muslim Brothers In Pakistan: Allah the Most High says: “O prophet! Strive hard against the disbelievers and the hypocrites, and be harsh against them. Their abode is hell, and an evil destination it is.” Quran 9:73 And the messenger of Allah, peace and blessings of Allah be upon him, says, “There is no one who abandons a Muslim in a place where his honor is violated and his sanctity is infringed upon except that Allah, the most high abandons him in a place in which he would like his aid. And there is no one who aids a Muslim in a place where his honor is violated and his sanctity is infringed upon except that Allah aids him in a place in which he would like his aid.”(Narrated by Ahmed) Pervez’s invasion of Lal Masjid in city of Islam, Islamabad, is a bad event similar to the crime of the Hindus in their invasion and destruction of the Babri Masjid. And this event has crucial and significant connotations, most important of which are: First, this event demonstrated Musharraf’s insistence on continuing his loyalty, submissiveness and aid to America against the Muslims, and this is one of ten nullifiers of Islam as the people of knowledge have determined and makes armed rebellion against him and removing him obligatory. Allah the Most High says: “O you who believe! Take not the Jews and Christians for your friends and protectors: they are but friends and protectors to each other. And he amongst you that turns to them (for friendship) is of them. Verily Allah guides not a people unjust.” Quran 5:51 And his statement “And he amongst you that turns to them (for friendship) is of them” means that he is one of them in kufr (unbelief), as the people of tafseer (explanation) have said. This ruling was the one given and confirmed by Mufti Nizamuddin Shamzai, may Allah have mercy on him, in his famous fatwa following the raids on New York, and among the things he said: “If any ruler of an Islamic state provides aid to an infidel state in its aggression against the Islamic states, it is the legal obligation of the Muslims to remove him from power and consider him to be legally a traitor to Islam and Muslims.” People Of Islam In Pakistan: Mufti Nizamuddin Shamzai, may Allah have mercy on him, discharged a great duty which was upon him and declared the word of truth and didn’t care about the anger of the creation. He endangered himself and his wealth and made clear the ruling of Allah regarding Pervez that he is a traitor to Islam and Muslims and must be removed. This fatwa enraged Pervez and enraged his masters in America, and it is my opinion that the murder of the Mufti, may Allah have mercy on him, was at their hands. And Mufti Nizzamuddin Shamzai died without having replaced the word of truth with falsehood, in contrast to what many of the ‘Ulema of vice’ do. And the obligation on us remains and we have been extremely late in carrying it out, six years having passed, so we should make up for lost time. May Allah forgive me as well as you. Second, the government showing Maulana Ab al-aziz Ghazi in women’s clothing in the media is clear evidence of the extent of the great hostility, hatred and contempt held by Pervez and his government towards Islam and its sincere ‘Ulema, and that is greater kufr which takes one out of Islam. Allah, the most high says: “And if you question them, they will most surely say, “we were only talking idly and jesting”. Say was it Allah and his signs and his messenger which you were mocking. Make no excuses, you have certainly disbelieved after believing. If we forgive a party from among you, a party shall we punish for they are criminals.” Quran 9:65-66 And read if you wish, read the tafseer of Ibn Katheer may Allah have mercy on him regarding this ayat. Third, in such events, the people are tested and the friends of the most merciful are separated from the friends of Shaytan. The Ulema who are from the friends of the most merciful declare the truth, and if they are unable or are weak, they observe silence and don’t help falsehood with their words of actions. As for the friends of Shaytan, they are led by Pakistani military intelligence to speak falsehood and help its people. Some of them deem it obligatory to unite with Pervez and his army, while others deemed martyrdom seeking fedayee operations against the soldiers of the Taghut (idol-king) as haraam, while still others assail the Mujahideen, slandering and defaming them. And this is the way of Munafiqeen (hypocrites). Allah the Most High says: “They are stingy (in helping) you and when the danger comes, you see them looking towards you, their eyes rolling like one fainting as death approaches. But when the fear has passed away, they assail you with sharp tongues being stingy with good deeds. Those have never believe, so Allah has rendered their words null and void and that is easy for Allah.” Quran 33:19 So everyone who refrained from helping the Imam Maulana Adb al-Rahid Ghazi is from the sitters, whereas those who attacked him to help Pervez, claiming that Islam isn’t established through fighting and calling fighting in the path of Allah “terrorism”- in the context of criticism and saying the way is through peaceful demonstrations and democratic methods are from those who have gone astray and followed the path of Munafiqeen. Nearly two decades ago, the soil of Pakistan saw and was watered by the blood of a great Imam of Islam, the Mujahid champion Imam Abdullah Azzam, may Allah have mercy on him, and today, we have seen another great Imam not at the level of Pakistan alone, but at the level of entire Islamic Ummah, the Imam Maulana Abd Rasheed Ghazi, may Allah have mercy on him. He, his brothers, his students and the female students of Jamia Hafsa demanded the application of Shariah of Islam as understood the reason for our creation is that we worship Allah the Most High through his religion al-Islam, and they were killed because of this great objective. Allah the Most High says: “And I have not created jinn and men but they may worship Me.” Quran 51:56 They sacrificed the great thing they owned; they sacrificed themselves for their religion. I ask Allah to accept among the martyrs. They were killed treacherously and treasonously at the hands of the apostate infidel Pervez and his aides. They purpose of the army, so they say, is to protect the Muslims against the kuffaar. But now we see the armies becoming tools and weapons in the hands of the kuffaar against the Muslims. Pervez threw away the cause of Kashmir and restrained those fighting to liberate it, in accordance with the wishes of the Hindus and the Nazarenes. Then he opened his bases and airports to America for invading the Muslims in Afghanistan and so you’ve seen before, the army attacked the people of Swat who also demand the rule of Shariah, and attacked the people of Waziristan, in addition to betraying and extraditing hundreds of Arab Mujahideen from the grandsons of the Sahaba (Companions), with whom Allah was pleased, to the head of kufr America. So Pervez, his ministers, his soldiers and those who help him are all accomplices in the spilling the blood of those of the Muslims who have been killed. He who helps him knowingly and willingly is an infidel like him. And as for those who aid him knowingly under compulsion, his compulsion isn’t legally valid as the soul of the one forced to kill isn’t better than the soul of the one killed. And the messenger of Allah peace and blessings of Allah be upon him said, “Were all the inhabitants of the heavens and earth to participate in the spilling of a believer’s blood, Allah the great and glorious would throw them to the fire.” So I tell the soldiers who perform the Salaat (prayer) in the military organs; you must resign from your jobs and enter into Islam and disassociate yourself from Pervz and his shirk (polytheism). Some of the munafiqeen among the Ulema of vice and others may say that Islam orders to stay together and people to unite with the army and government to stand in the face of enemies and avoid fitnah (strife). I say; the one who says this is creating lies about Allah. The government and army have become enemies of the Ummah, after becoming a weapon in the hands of the kuffaar against the Muslims. And they refuse to rule by the religion of Islam in all of life’s affairs, like politics, economy, social life and other matters. Allah has ordered these and their like to be fought, not to be united with and hung onto, as those hypocrites claim. Allah the Most High says: “And fight them until there’s no fitnah (polytheism) and religion is wholly for Allah.” Quran 8:39 So if someone of the religion is for Allah and some of it is for other than Allah, fighting is obligatory to make the religion entirely for Allah, the most high. By the grace of Allah the Most High, we performed Jihad with the Afghan Mujahideen against the Russians, and the afghan army was a weapon in their hands against us. They would pray and fast but despite that the senior Ulema of the Islamic world, including the Ulema of Pakistan, ruled that they are to be fought. After the exit of the Russians, the Ulema of Pakistan also supported Taliban against the Northern Alliance, although they also pray and fast. So is there any difference between Pervez and his soldiers and Ahmed Shah Masood, Rabbani and Sayyaf and their soldiers? There is no difference at all; all of them have pledged to the cross worshippers to fight true Islam and its people. And those who say it is forbidden to fight Pervez and his soldiers and exclude him from the general ruling have an illness in their hearts; they prefer this life to the next. Allah the Most High says: “Are you unbelievers better than those or have you an immunity (from punishment) in the sacred books?” Quran 54:43 I tell Pervez and his army; your betrayal of your nation and people has been exposed, and the people are no longer fooled by your showing off the military by launching some missiles after the disaster and massacre you commit against the populace as has occurred repeatedly in the border regions, or after the enormous massacre in Lal Masjid recently. How is the nation benefited by the weapons and tests of yours? The same goes for the nuclear bomb itself. When the American foreign minister Powell came to you, you cowered, bowed and submitted to him like a lowly slave, and you permitted the American cross worshipper forces to use the air, soil and water of Pakistan, the country of Islam, to kill the people of Islam in Afghanistan, then in Waziristan. So woe to you and away with you. Against the people you attack like lions and against the enemy like rabbits and ostriches? Your going to Makkah and performing the Tawaf (circling) of the Kaaba won’t benefit you when combined with kufr and combating of Islam and its people. Were it to benefit anyone in combination with kufr, it would have benefited Abu Lahab, the uncle of the messenger of Allah peace be upon him. Then some might say that armed rebellion against Pervez will lead to the spilling of blood. But I say; were the order to fight the apostate ruler from the people like Amr and Zayd then it would be permissible for minds and opinions to intervene and discuss what they should or should not do. However, as you know, the order of fight the apostate ruler is an order in the Shariah of Allah and it is not permissible for the Muslim to make his opinion rival to the word of Allah and order of his Messenger, peace be upon him. Allah the Most High says: “And it is not for a believing man or a believing woman, when Allah and his messenger have decided a matter, to exercise their own choice in the matter concerning them. And whoso disobeys Allah and his messenger manifestly astray.” Quran 33:36 So when capability is there, it is obligatory to rebel against the apostate ruler as is the case now. And the one who disbelieves that the strength required to rebel has not yet been completed must complete it and take up arms against Pervez and his army without procrastination. Pervez and most of the Muslim’s rulers jumped to power and usurped it and ruled us by other than what Allah sent down by force of arms, and the situation will not return to normal through elections, demonstrations and shouting. So beware of the polytheistic elections and futile actions, for iron is only dented by iron, and it is through fighting in Allah’s path and exhorting of the believers that the might of the kuffer is restrained. Allah the Most High said: “So fight in Allah’s cause- you are held responsible only for yourself- and rouse the believers. It may be that Allah will restrain the might of the unbelievers. And Allah is strongest in might and strongest in punishment.” Quran 4:84 Fighting in Allah’s path is an act of worship, and it is based on sacrifice of selves. Muslim blood is spilled and poured to protect the religion which only reached us after his (peace and blessings of Allah be upon him) cusped tooth was broken, his head cut open and his noble face bloodied and after the blood of best of people like Mus’ab, Zaid and Ja’far (with who Allah was pleased) was poured out. This is the path so follow it. The people have forgotten the path of victory, they think it comes easily or without blood running. Where is the Jihad of the Messenger of Allah, peace be upon him? So to summarize, it is obligatory on the Muslims in Pakistan to carry out jihad and fighting to remove Pervez, his government and his army and those who help him. And it is obligatory on them to pledge allegiance to an Amir of believers who observes the rule of Shari’ah rather than Pervez’s polytheistic positive-law constitution. And the Muslims will not be successful in liberating themselves from slavery to Pervez and his polytheistic laws from many of the leaders and Ulema falsely affiliated with Islam who are in fact the first line of defence for Pervez and his government and army. You have seen with your own eyes the stances they took previously, when rather than moving to break the siege placed on the Muslims of Afghanistan, they moved to break the siege placed on their bases and airports which Pervez gave to America and from which the planes were taking off to pound us in Tora Bora, Kabul, Kandahar, Paktia, Nangarhar and other places. And for your information, Pervez only dared to invade Lal Masjid and Jamia Hafsa after he was satisfied that most of the Ulema and leaders of the Jama’ats (groups) had renounced the Jihad which Allah the Most High legislated to enforce the truth and whose banner was tied by the messenger of Allah (peace be upon him). They replaced it with polytheistic democratic solutions and with peaceful demonstrations and bogus threats to absorb the anger of masses. Pervez had tested them before, when he broke the back of the Islamic Emirate in Afghanistan, after which they came to him voluntarily and of their own accord to participate in the polytheistic parliament as if nothing had happened. So O people of Islam in Pakistan: the truth is greater than everyone, and if truth is not greater than everyone and if we don’t apply the Hudud (punishments) to both the nobleman and weak, that is road to ruin as the messenger of Allah (peace and blessing of Allah be upon him) informed us when he said, “Those before you were ruined because when the nobleman among them stole, they would let him go but when the weak one among them stole, they would execute on him the Hadd (punishment). And by He in whose hand is my soul, were Fatima, daughter of Muhammad to steal, I would cut off her hand.” (Agreed Upon) O youth of Islam in Pakistan: the pen is writing what is for you and what is against you, and it wont benefit you to make excuses by saying that many of your Ulema and leaders have allied themselves to infidel rulers and the rest have failed to speak the truth and declare it out of fear of the ruling Taghut, except those on whom Allah has had mercy and these are either in prison or on the run. This huge disaster like the marching of the ulema of vice in line with the apostate ruler and their currying favor with him and attacking of the sincere Mujahid Ulema isn’t peculiar to Pakistan but rather is a disaster covering the entire Islamic Ummah. And there is no power nor might except with Allah. So O people of Islam in Pakistan: every one of you will come alone to Allah the Most High and be held accountable for his own actions, so discharge your duty. The messenger of Allah peace be upon him has said, “ The smart one is who subdues himself and works for what comes after death, and the feeble one is he who lets his self chase after its desires and then hopes from Allah.” And be aware that as the jihad becomes an individual obligation, as is the case today, there are only two ways with no third: either jihad which is the way of the messenger peace be upon him and those who believed with him, or sitting which is the way of the disobedient ones and munafiqeen. So make your choice. Allah the Most High has says: “They prefer to be with the womenfolk who remain behind at home, so their hearts are sealed so that they understand not. But the messenger and those who believe with him strive(in the cause of Allah) with their wealth and their persons, and it is they who shall have good things and it is they who shall prosper.” Quran 9:87-88 And we in the al-Qaeda organization call on Allah to witness that we will retaliate for the blood of Maulana abd al-Rasheed Ghanzi and those with him against Musharraf and those who help him and for all the pure and innocent blood, foremost of which is the blood of the champions of Islam in Waziristan, both north and south, among them the two noble leaders, Nek Muhammad and Abdullah Mahsud. May Allah have mercy on them all. The tribes of Waziristan have made a great stand in the face on international Kufr America and its allies and its agents and the major states have been unable to make the stands they have made. They have been made resolute in this stance by their Iman (faith) in Allah the Most High and their tawakkul (reliance) on him. And they have withstood huge sacrifices of souls and wealth. We ask Allah to compensate them well. And Muslims shall not forget these magnificent stances, and the blood of the ulema of Islam and leaders of the Muslims and their offspring will not be spilled in vain or neglected as long as there remains in us a pulsing vein or a blinking eye. We ask Allah to fulfill that. O Allah our Lord accept those of our brothers and sisters who have been killed and among the martyrs and heal the wounded; O Allah make their graves spacious for them, and take care of their families and raise their grades in ‘Illiyen’ (heaven); O Allah Pervez, his ministers, his Ulema and his soldiers have been hostile to your friends in Afghanistan and Pakistan especially in Waziristan, Swat, Bajaur and Lal Masjid; O Allah break their backs, split them up and destroy their unity; O Allah afflict them with loss of their dear ones as they have afflicted us with the loss of our dear ones; O Allah we seek refuge in You from their evilness and we place You at their throats; O Allah make their plotting their destruction; O Allah suffice for us against them with whatever You wish; O Allah destroy them for they cannot escape you; O Allah count them, kill them, and leave not even one of them; O Allah our Lord, give us in this world goodness and in the last goodness, and protect us from the fire; O Allah send prayers and peace on our Prophet Muhammad and all his family and companions. Sheikh Osama bin Laden Ramadan 1428 September 2007 |
| Politics › Re: Northern Nigerian Killer Muslims At Work Again by Iman3(m): 6:20pm On Oct 09, 2007 |
almondjoy:The issue here for me is that a lot of Islamist violence is inspired by Islamic doctrine.You can't solve a problem by denying the prescence of one of its root causes. Out of pride,the average Muslim trys to divert the issue away from religion.This helps no one.It doesn't help the Muslim for non-Muslims think they are acquiescing to it. When a Bin Laden perpetrates violence copiuosly quoting from scripture-Muslim's best response lies in using those same scripture to make an alternative case.Simply stating-it has nothing to do with Islam-leaves the theological battleground solely for Radical Islam |
| Politics › Re: Northern Nigerian Killer Muslims At Work Again by Iman3(m): 6:11pm On Oct 09, 2007 |
almondjoy:You have spent the most time on this thread than any of us moonlighting as a Muslim and defiling logic as Mo defiles 9 year olds. |
| Politics › Re: Northern Nigerian Killer Muslims At Work Again by Iman3(m): 5:59pm On Oct 09, 2007 |
You are so missing the point! In the final anaysis there are things in every religion that should not make anyone feel you need to belittle the other--because all boil down to the same thing--no matter the approach! Understand? Wink Lesson? People who live in glass houses should not throw stones!Those Madrassas are for young boys Nobody denies that there are all manner of immoral people in each religion but what makes Islam unique is the example set by Mohammed and this is what feeds into the violence we see against non-Muslims. |
| Politics › Re: Northern Nigerian Killer Muslims At Work Again by Iman3(m): 5:47pm On Oct 09, 2007 |
I accept! You also accept that your priests molest 3 year old boys--in the name of "agape". At least we marry our girls at 9 and provide them homes.As if the 9 year old girls didn't have homes before See how some Muslims treat child sex abuse-http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/south_asia/4084951.stm They sweep it under the carpet Anybody reading your posts will think that Muslims don't have child sex abuse.It still doesn't explain why Muhammad defiled a 9 year old girl.A 9 year old is pre-pubescent.Why have sex with her? Islam also encourages sex with female slaves.That amounts to ra.pe |
| Politics › Re: Northern Nigerian Killer Muslims At Work Again by Iman3(m): 5:45pm On Oct 09, 2007 |
I accept! You also accept that your priests molest 3 year old boys--in the name of "agape". At least we marry our girls at 9 and provide them homes.As if the 9 year old girls didn't have homes before See how some Muslims treat child sex abuse-http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/south_asia/4084951.stm They sweep it under the carpet Anybody reading your posts will think that Muslims don't have child sex abuse.It still doesn't explain why Mohammed defiled a 9 year old girl.A 9 year old is pre-pubescent.Why have sex with her? Islam also encourages sex with female slaves.That amounts to rape |
| Politics › Re: Northern Nigerian Killer Muslims At Work Again by Iman3(m): 5:16pm On Oct 09, 2007 |
@almondjoy Is the Da Vinci Code,a fictional novel,your authoritative source? Islamism is a mental illness So you are now comparing Moahmmed,your Prophet,to Chris Ngige? What about Chris Uba ? |
| Politics › Re: Northern Nigerian Killer Muslims At Work Again by Iman3(m): 5:11pm On Oct 09, 2007 |
@almondjoy The difference is that Islam tells us that Mohammed is the Uswa Hasana(an excellent model of conduct).His behaviour is to be emulated by all Muslims. King Solomon was not even a Christian. . . your desperation is laughable Following the lead of your Prophet,Iran's age of marriage for girls starts at 9 |
| Politics › Re: Northern Nigerian Killer Muslims At Work Again by Iman3(m): 4:59pm On Oct 09, 2007 |
Islamist apologist logic- 1)There are incidents of corruption in Nigeria 2)There are incidents of corruption in Britain 3)Thus we can see that Nigeria does not have a unique problem with corruption The above is the equivalent of saying,there are violent people in Christianity,hence Islamist violence is not a unique problem.By that standard,Muslims are just as peaceful as Quakers and Buddhists. If we extend this logic to all aspects of life,we see it for what it is-a desperate attempt to explain away violence by adducing appaling logic.When faith collides with logic,logic is thrown out the window. |
| Politics › Re: Northern Nigerian Killer Muslims At Work Again by Iman3(m): 4:50pm On Oct 09, 2007 |
don't even try going there.where are the blacks in arabia? no its your present home, with a constitution based on the bible( na you talk am) that has a very large african american population. can anyone be more racist than whites? please point us to links of jim crow laws, lynchings, etc in arab countries.This is how Islam warps the mind of Black people.The Arabs took 11 -14 million slaves from Africa,the US took 745,000 slaves,yet a a so called Black man seeks to downplay Arab slave trade because of his religious belief.That there are fewer slave descendants in the Arab world is testament to how they actually treated their African slaves.Slaves were only set free in Saudi Arabia in the 1960s! As we speak today,slavery goes on in Mauritania and Sudan but our "Black" Muslim brothers pretend it doesn't exist because as Muslims,they all see the Arabs as saintly.A religion for the culturally warped- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arab_slave_trade |
| Politics › Re: Northern Nigerian Killer Muslims At Work Again by Iman3(m): 4:40pm On Oct 09, 2007 |
The Prophet of Islam defiled a 9 year old girl,killed people,married at least 11 wives and waged wars and the Muslim retort?Well Rev King did the same At best,all you have succedded in showing us is that Mohammed's behaviour is comparable to the dregs of contemporary society.When you feel the need to exculpate Mohammed by pointing to Rev King,you realise how low his reputation is in the eyes of all decent humans. Finding cases of lewd behaviour by individual Christians is hardly difficult but it misses the point-that Islam's founder's behaviour is comparable not to Jesus,Buddha or even Nelson Mandela but the likes of Rev King and David Koresh |
| Politics › Re: Bill Gates' Application For Nigerian Visa Was Initially Denied by Iman3(m): 8:16pm On Oct 08, 2007 |
The Nigerian government initially denied the Microsoft kingpin's application on the premise that they required proof he would not reside in Nigeria indefinitely, causing a strain on social services and a general nuisance for immigration. Do we have social services? |
| Politics › Re: Northern Nigerian Killer Muslims At Work Again by Iman3(m): 8:11pm On Oct 08, 2007 |
Isn't it funny how Laudate shifts her position depending on the situation? the Islamic religion supports jihad, and the killing of infidels. So, what is there to understand? Guess who said the above?Our girl,Laudate Don't believe me?Check out this thread.Post 8-https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria?topic=77592.msg1490852#msg1490852 |
| Politics › Re: Northern Nigerian Killer Muslims At Work Again by Iman3(m): 6:34pm On Oct 08, 2007 |
almondjoy:It differs on a case by case basis,however,many of the countries with desperate poverty,do have religious crisis.There is a lot of religious violence that is under the news radar.Most Non-Nigerians probably didn't hear about the events in Kano.Religious violence is actually more widespread than most people realise. |
| Politics › Re: Northern Nigerian Killer Muslims At Work Again by Iman3(m): 6:27pm On Oct 08, 2007 |
almondjoy:That is putting the cart before the horse.Religious and economic issues do lead to total breakdown of law and order. |
| Politics › Re: Dehumanizing The Palestinians - By Ali Abunimah by Iman3(m): 6:25pm On Oct 08, 2007 |
Tornadoz:Straight from the Institute of Benin Beer Parlours! The Balfour Declaration,which set things in motion for a Jewish state in the Middlle East, predates Hitler's rise to power.http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Balfour_Declaration_of_1917 |
| European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Manchester United Fan thread: Forever Reds by Iman3(m): 6:22pm On Oct 08, 2007 |
loyika:I have an easy reference for the future |
| Politics › Re: Air Force Refused To Fly Weapons To Middle East Theater – By Wayne Madsen by Iman3(m): 5:49pm On Oct 08, 2007 |
@Kobojunkie Afam is looking at the issue of land ownership from a village man's perspective In the sense that,only the indigenes are the rightful owners of the land,by that measure,only Native Americans own the land currently making up the US. |
| Politics › Re: Northern Nigerian Killer Muslims At Work Again by Iman3(m): 5:37pm On Oct 08, 2007 |
nwando: If the Saudis were Igbos,Laudate would have known better |
| Politics › Re: Northern Nigerian Killer Muslims At Work Again by Iman3(m): 5:33pm On Oct 08, 2007 |
laudate:Was it not you that brought up the subject of your gender? laudate:Nobody was discussing your gender untill you brought it up. laudate:Shoot yourself in the foot. . . . like that "expert" opinion you gave on Saudi Arabia.Still waiting for you to land in Riyadh with the Bible pressed on your forehead |
| Politics › Re: Northern Nigerian Killer Muslims At Work Again by Iman3(m): 3:48pm On Oct 08, 2007 |
@laudate I have been calling you a "she" since April as 4Play,alternatively,I have called you a transvestite.Which one do you prefer,she or tranny? See as you dey follow me around for 6 consecutive months,what can I do for you leave me alone? |
| Politics › Re: Dehumanizing The Palestinians - By Ali Abunimah by Iman3(m): 3:39pm On Oct 08, 2007 |
Afam: You too much! |
Or they are misinterpreting the quran.
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