Thanks for your services. I just sent you a mail. Julisudubem@gmail dot com. I await ya reply. Thanks once again!

I got a mail from KPMG, inviting me for the 13th July aptitude test. I don't know if i will be there though. With the information i got here, the test is very tough and i don't have enough time to prepare. Don't want to waste my time and money to travel from East. I need to make a decision very fast. Good luck to all!

sehawale: @X-fire, Thanks. The package in Schlumberger is about $8,500= (monthly take home...I mean after tax). He is presently with Schlumberger that is why I can tell you the package there. For NNPC, he has not seen the package. He is gonna be permanent staff in both coys. More of field operations in Schlum tho'

Did you just say $8500/month? Wow,
@poster No comment

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mikkyphp:
Wow! That's just wrong and plain misinformation.
Through out my studies in Uni as a CVE student, we did architecture courses and did plenty of engineering drawing: building plans, sectioning, roof designs, elevations etc. We even did a drawing course in final year, whose exam is 7 hours standard, with 1 hour break. (just like CCIE lol)

I think what the OP wants is a deep understanding of the two courses/career options. If i want to be simplistic, i'd say a Civil Engr is able to draw as well as interpret architectural designs and implement.
The Architect only draws. The CVE does the material management, strength of materials, building drawing sectioning/detailing, foundation designs and full Design. Full Design here means - getting results of calculations that determine the height of beams, thickness of slabs, amount of reinforcements to be used, type of reinforcements (i.e either high yield steel or mild steel) all based on Building codes. This helps to engender the optimal use of materials to achieve the minimum limit state and prevent wastage of materials.
All these and much more.

It is a CVE that designs drainages, pipe sections, Dams, soil testings .....the list goes on...

Let me stop here, but OP note that you have far more options as a Civil Engineer>> The job of an architect is just a microcosm of the Job of a CVE, just that they are specialized in their area.

my 2cents

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x-fire:

It is possible. My very first job as a fresh engineering graduate after nysc earned me less than. Though I must say I spent less than 2 weeks in that teaching job. I must confess my secondary schools still pay graduates such amount.
No average firm will offer an OND holder such pay let alone a graduate. Of recent, I have seen graduates collect as low as 40-60k per month but not less!
Any graduate working over 15k/month is definitely passing time, waiting for the right chance to leave.
On whether it is 'right' or not, nothing is absolutely right or wrong. It is based on your situation, perception or ability. Other factors to be considered are what you stand to gain in terms of experience, convenience, exposure or meeting people. There is right or wrong view.

Best answer to the question.

Senator Iyke: I am going for Drilling Technology (Ref. course No. PE 20)

I posted ma email and am still yet to receive ya mail.

Senator Iyke:
Try PTI Mud Sch. Delta state. or better still send me your E-mail I will send you their course outline for this yr.

Juliusdubem at gmail dot com

BoboYekini: Its a movement that suggests that you can seduce almost any woman by employing specific body language, verbal suggestions e.t.c., regardless of your financial or physical limits.

As per Ishilove, I confess she remains a mystery to me. Still attractive nonetheless.

Exactly.
@esere, I will like to get ya response to this question using the earlier quoted theorem 'cuz I hav a 'Coach' junking ma spam box with mails on how to vibe wif any lady of ya choice in no time.
Nice Thread BTW!

You must be joking

IIIIxRoyalxIIII: My Post wasn't about solely Hip Hop

Hip Hop is Ravaged Right Now....

The Top Artist are Children with Corny Tattoos who struggle with pronunciation and basic English

Jay and B are the top "Hip Hop" Power Couple by default....solely because of Her.

Hell....if 2chains or Rick Ross married Adele Tomorrow they would take over the lead LoL

D sage: I bought GTB shares few years ago and I'd received six consecutive shares bonus and dividends. The value of initial shares has also increased. May God bless my broker.

I think GTB shares is still the best at least for now.

Who is ya stockbroker? I am looking for a reliable broker rite now.

@ryhmz

Check ya inbox, i just sent u a mail.

rhymz: hi everyone,
it has been a while since i commented here. i lost my phone that gave me easy access to the internet than my lappy. Anyway, I notice some of us updating the thread and helping others. I have good news for us all, I have been able to download the PDMS video tutorials full package: it is a four-cd package with step by step video tutorials that covers all aspect of pdms. however, there is a little difficulty, the language used is persian and some of us the textual explanation were not written in english either. but for the better part of the video tutorials, it is demonstrative and easy to follow if you already have average background in PDMS, the size of the whole file is 1.2gb.
At the moment, I am not in Lagos but will be there from the 20th of this month, anyone interested can as usual call me up to get it: for free of course.
Mr Kingsley, thanks for the link, however, you are yet to solve the main problem I complained about the last time: the crack file you said one will have to install with the patch for version sp12.0, the i go like get your dial. eggpet site you gave does not help matters either. is there a way we can meet in portharcourt? i really will like to meet with you. my system recently crashed, and i lost most of my pdms books and the installation from my training centre. as i write, i have downloaded more than two version of pdms yet none of them will work. if it is possible.
and my homey, Adekunle sorry i have been off the radar for a while o, my fone spoil and am back in sokoto.....i shall be active again prolly when i get back to lag.

How U dey? Been a while, i tried to send you IMs but its not delivering. i have the PDMS 12.0 sp4 in my laptop now with the raw files, its a pity you are not yet back. Am through with my training, will be leaving lagos next tomorrow. i did the last stage of my training with the 12.0sp4, ie structures & ASL. How are ​We gonna do it? 'cuz i need the video tutorials really bad.

@all

If you want to get the pdms version 12.0 and any other material you can think of, video tutorial, ebooks, see live project, read and get ideas from the Professionals, then you need to join this forum and thank me later, Aveva World Users' Forum. Here's the link: http://www.avevaworldusergroup.com/forum/index.php

When i joined this forum, i was like a kid in a candy shop, so many materials, softcopies, ideas, video tutorials etc. i read things i didn't know existed in this very diverse software, aveva pdms and soo many other softwares you can use to conplement youя project work.
Just register and you are good to go.

>Peace

Kingsleyinfo: direct link to the Nigerian PDMS group.....

http://www.linkedin.com/groups/Nigerian-PDMS-Designers-Pipe-Engineers-4779339?gid=4779339&trk=hb_side_g

Thanks for the link. i've been searching for the group to no avail. Am now a member!

i'll advice you to honor the invitation. It won't take anything from you, just don't pay a dime to any of their requests. Google the address and the company name you saw on the email, i believe you will get more info about them. Goodluck!

Wow! Nice Thread.
Been smoking since Feb 2006. i smoke approx 10 sticks/day and i don't drink. i've tried stopping once but 9days was all i could endure. I enjoy smoking while reading, i guess that's why i graduated with a good result...ℓoℓ.
I've heard of the nicotine gum that helps during the withdrawal period, how and where do i get the gum?
What of cannabis? i think it has the same effect on the lungs as the cigrattes...considering the fact that you inhale n exhale smoke in both cases. Anyone with a different idea should let me know.

#SaveTheLungs!

i got an interview invitation mail from this firm for friday 18 january. Please house, if you know their interview procedures or you've been interviewed by them before, i need to know what to expect 'cuz i really don't wanna miss this opportunity.
Any info will be highly appreciated.
Thanks!

i got an interview invitation mail from this firm for friday 18 january. Please house, if you know their interview procedures or you've been interviewed by them before, i need to know what to expect 'cuz i really don't wanna miss this opportunity.
Any info will be highly appreciated.
Thanks!

baby_123:

Spousal support works both ways. If one spouse is better off than the other, and a break in the union will cause sudden hardship. Then the less privileged spouse should get something. It is only logical and rational Dayo. Not matter how hard you try you cant explain it away. Want to minimize your damage? Find a woman who earns close to what you do or even more. So that she pays you

That's wrong! What do you mean by 'the less priviledged spouse'? You get what you put in, that's what i believe. Women can be very self centered some times, i have a friend, more like a family friend. He got married to a low profile girl with nothing still struggling to finish school, her course/major in schools got cancelled 'cuz of accreditation wahala, NUC issues. They are married with kids, the was very successful when they married but later he started having serious business problems. Money no dey as e dey before. He was really struggling but he believes so much in education that he sent his wife abroad to school. He stayed back with the kids, oh gosh, he suffered. He will borrow from his friends abroad to pay the wife's fees n stipends, he will still hustle for the kids and their own fees+ other family expenses.

Last year, the wife got back after graduation and is now working. The guy is broke, and the working wife can't even contribute to the family expenses, she spends her money on herself. If you see both of 'em together, you'll probably say 'what's this beautiful educated woman doing with a broke business man'? She doesn't show respect to him@all, i mean, i was very disappointed last xmas when i saw them. This is a girl i know very well before they got married, skiny n ugly, with no friends, now she's educated and beautiful with so many friends, lacks respect for her hubby. Why can't she support the family and help out just as the hubby has been doing? Hell no! She spends her money on clothes, shoes and frivolities while the family is struggling, very sad. Well, the guy has made his decision. He's just waiting to get back to his former status and then tell her what she doesn't wanna hear.

Before i marry anyone, ​We gonna sign those papers o. i don't wanna be a slave in ma own house. You get exactly what you put in, i don't wanna have a divorced family but one gotta face reality. I like independent women who can make their own investments and think of the future like my mum does, but let's face facts, in this our country right now, 90% of our women don't have that mentality. Sad bt true!

baby_123:

Kids dont stay in school till 4pm. In kindergarten i know they come out at 1. It is till they are in primary school, without after school activities. its like 2 or 3 sef. A woman who stays at home is not lazy in any way. If you were to pay her for all she did, i think you would have to quit. To get a good nanny sef in the US is very expensive. Dayo, you are going black and white again. Life is not black and white. Let us go back to the divorce settlement stuff, even if a woman works while you are married, she is entitled to something during the course of the union. That you both acquired. Especially jointly owned properties. And a divorce settlement is only to make her maintain at least a comfortable living especially if the children are to be in her care. It is the court that will decide it. We can be on this till day break. A woman's presence at home when kids are little cannot be explained away.

i like Uя healthy argument wif the other guy on this thread. Its quite commendable.
Personally, i agree with the child support issue but on the divorce settlement, i believe its only fair to share the funds 50/50 only if the success was achieved as a union. Example, am working and ma wife is working , ​We make investments as a family, its only fair to share after divorce. i don't want a housewife, i'll contribute in all d ways possible bt she aint staying@home. Whatever success i achieved on ma own before the unioun is ma own and will not be shared.

What do you have to say to this; In most marriages in this country, you see the hubby taking care of his in law's problem, funding her siblings' educational fees, taking care of her parents etc you can't expect such man to still settle her after divorce, that's not just fair.

thegoodjoehunt: Yet people belive Messi the greatest of them will flop in the EPL.

Messi cannot score 73 goals in a season in EpL...quote me anywhere!

teefash01:


no offence pls , oth is for gehs nd childish >>>>>>>>>guys

No offence pls, dats Uя own childish opinion!

Nnamdini: mine is 24 but from the comments,u can easily know the mindsets of nairalanders as regards movies
merlin,legend of d seeker,one three hill,kyle xy-childish pple
evrybody hates chris-comic pple
game of thrones,spartacus-adult pple
heroes,supernatural-occult lovers
iris,jumong-action freaks
housewives,hw i met ur mum-romantic pple
prison break,fringe-intelligent pple

Very shallow analysis.Personally, i'll say you don't know much about movies, you don't know the art in acting and trying to convey a very deep message. Saying OTH is for childish pple says a lot about you, a movie that checks all the box in the realities of life; Love, hate, betrayal, evil, friends, family, career, decision making, anger, marriage, sex etc You'll learn a lot from that movie.
You'll probably put 'Entourage' in the childish pple category, wow!
FYI, a movie is a work of art. Personally, the best movie i've ever watch is 'Legends of the Fall', but am guessing you 'll fall asleep while watching it 'cuz you'll be too shallow to understand what it's really all about.
Don't categorize pple with youя own opinion 'cuz Uя view might just be wrong.

Okay

“We pay well. We pay very well. I’ve spent all my life making sure people who work for us are paid well and I believe if you can do it, you do it,” said Arsene Wenger last week, towards the end of one of football’s most drawn-out contract sagas where the Arsenal manager did everything he could not to pay Theo Walcott well. Or at least as well as the player wanted.

Eventually Wenger, for the most part, gave into the 23-year-old’s demands, who is primed to sign a £90,000-a-week contract imminently. The new deal will make Walcott the club’s second highest earner – but still a far cry from the massive salaries offered at other clubs which have been heavily criticised by the Frenchman in the past.

“We have no players on £200,000-a-week,” added the 63-year-old. “We have a more socialist model.”

But Wenger's notion of a "socialist model" seems at odds with the club's facts and figures.
 
In an era of double-dip recessions and austerity measures, applauding a salary cap that nevertheless sees the north London club pay around £150 million-a-year in wages – the fourth highest in the Premier League – seems totally at odds with the idea. As does prefixing a six-figure salary with the word “only”, as in, Lukas Podolski “only” earns £100,000-a-week.

Arguably even more significantly, Wenger seems to have excluded himself from the socialist model he extols too, picking up a salary in excess of £7m-a-year, including bonuses, making him the highest-paid manager in the Premier League - including 12-time title winner Sir Alex Ferguson.

In fact, the only active managers who currently earn more are Real Madrid’s Jose Mourinho, Guangzhou’s Marcelo Lippi and PSG’s Carlo Ancelotti.

Despite Walcott engaging in a year’s worth of exhaustive contract haggling, the ex-Southampton player’s new deal will still only earn him £2.5m-a-year less than his manager.

Wenger, then, is a champagne socialist, preaching that which he does not practice himself. The gap between Wenger's salary and that of his players is more marked than at any other club in the world, not least at the likes of Real Madrid, Manchester City, Paris St Germain where the star attractions - Cristiano Ronaldo, Yaya Toure and Zlatan Ibrahimovic - all earn significantly more than their respective managers.

But not Wenger. Is that a symptom of Arsenal’s absence of a star player deserving of earning an intergalactic salary, or has Wenger packaged a more totalitarian, self-rewarding capitalist system as “socialism”?

There are inherent flaws to Wenger’s ideology too, given that it relies on the assumption that all players are equal, which they patently are not.

Walcott, Arsenal’s leading scorer (both in the league and all competitions), earned only marginally more than perennially injured centre-back Johan Djourou and perma-disaster Sebastien Squillaci prior to agreeing his new contract.

Now, the winger-cum-striker will earn more than the classier, more influential Spanish duo of Santi Cazorla and Mikel Arteta. Wenger says his philosophy is “to pay something that makes sense and is defendable in front of every single player” – but that is impossible within such a tight wage construct.

Instead, all Wenger’s ideology does is anchor brilliance to mediocrity and taper the amount that can be paid to players of genuine quality – or the funds available to keep it in north London, as with Cesc Fabregas and Robin van Persie.

The likes of Marouane Chamakh and Andre Santos have spent  recent years in the same wage bracket as Walcott, earning £60,000-a-week, with deals offered to profoundly average players that not even free-spending, cash-rich Manchester City would green-light. By way of comparison, Manchester United's Danny Welbeck, who represented England at the Euros, earned just £15,000-a-week until rewarded with a new deal last August.

At Arsenal, there’s absurdly little disparity between the top-end and bottom-end earners, between the experienced veterans and the upcoming youngsters, between the quality players and the not-so-quality players.

Chief executive Ivan Gazidis has profited from Wenger’s faux-socialism too, raking in a £675k bonus on top of his £1.36m annual salary for overseeing another trophy-less season at the north London club and selling off prized assets to domestic and foreign rivals.

As is so often the case, it is the fans who lose out. Arsenal have not won a trophy in over seven years, yet the cost of seeing their side outstrips any other club. This week, Manchester City returned a third of their allocation for their weekend clash with the Gunners, ironic given the finances of the Abu Dhabu-bankrolled club compared to the supposed monetary morals of Wenger’s socialist Arsenal.

At Borussia Dortmund – where football is “more than a business,” according to chief executive Hans-Joachim Watzke, and fans are put first – a season ticket in the iconic 'Yellow Wall' at the Signal Iduna Park costs £154. At the Emirates, admittedly with more games included in the package, the absolute cheapest season ticket on offer costs £985 with the most expensive costing £1,955. Socialism, eh?

Wenger, then, is like a kind of warped, inverted Robin Hood, taking from the north London club’s largely affluent fanbase and redistributing those funds among his band of (mediocre) Merry Men/Kids; but, rather than giving to the poor, the Frenchman withholds the largest share of the spoils for himself.

While the club scrimp and save, charging extortionate rates for tickets and refusing to spend big on transfers, the only benefactors are Arsenal’s overpaid and unexceptional squad players and the bank accounts of Messrs Gazidis and Wenger.
 
And the longer Wenger’s great socialism smokescreen continues, the greater the likelihood that Arsenal fans will continue to experience more trophyless years to come.

http://www.goal.com/en-gb/news/2896/premier-league/2013/01/10/3661169/the-hypocrisy-of-wengers-socialist-arsenal-wage-structure?ICID=HP_MR_5

lukade: premiership is filled with average players.unlike the spanish league where technique speaks.5000 people cant be wrong talkless of,they are, coaches and footballers.EPL is an overhyped league because they play 'shoot and run football'

Believe whatever you want, La liga is very boring. Imagine Barca played 22 league matches, won 20 n 2 draws. Wow! You can never experience such in EPL, always exciting n competitive, you'll neva predict the scoreline. Fifa, bunch of wankers!

Kslib: Yes,pirlo deserves to be on the list,but RVP doesnt... It was only when Rvp came to man u that he became fire,when he was at arsenal,he was just average.. So maybe he deserves to be on the next list,but certainly not this list...

Average with 30 ggoals in EPL, really? How manyy strikers have scored 30 goals in EPL since 2000? Only when he joined ManU? Why did ManU buy him if he wasn't scoring? Wow!
Fifpro XI is fvcked.

Can't you go for the inspection course and the design programs? You can do autoPlant, p&id and pdms for 40k in 6 weeks, then go for the inspection course. That will give you an edge in this ever competitve job market.

scantee: it all depends on the area you want to work or specialise that will determine the certification you will do. Though as a Civil Engr, you will be of better postion in contract job, most civil engrs in the coy is incharge of bundwall/tank rehabilitation and other civil work, they are also incharge of generating scope of work, Method statement, work procedures to the contractors.

Okay, Thanks for d info.

scantee: Sorry my guy, the job is for primavela/Pmp specialist.

Okay, Thanks. What should be my next step to get into the industry with ma skills? If i need additional certificates or skills, which one will give me the edge over others 'cuz its very competitive?

Kingsleyinfo: hi all i just created a group on linkedin,
NIGERIAN PDMS AND PIPELINE DESIGNERS GROUP

so if u re on linkedin pls let me know
and if you are not then try and sign up at

www.linkedin.com

i searched for the group in linkedin and it didn't get any result. Are you sure that's the the name of th gruop? i'll really like to join the group, so get back 2 me, AsAP