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On point!

Sal C: I don't believe smoking is preventing anyone from entering heaven but the motive or reason why you smoke can. Some people smoke for different reasons but the only reason why I personally detest smoking is because it's detrimental the one's health. St paul said " am permitted to do anything, but I won't let anything make me it's slave" It doesn't hurt to stop smoking but it hurts to keep it up.

I don't support the pastors encouraging people to keep smoking.

Are you Catholic?

I ask because you sound like you're just here to ridicule.

Dap07: pls what will happen if i commit a mortal sin and still go for communion? Will thunder strike me?

Another seccession!

Then they would have 1billion +1 "denominations."

...and some people would still say all the 1000000001 "denominations" are one Church with one faith.

May the Lord be with them.

If you are guilty of mortal sin, you must confess and be absolved of the sin (s) before you receive Jesus in Holy Communion.

The Church also says that a practising Catholic should go to confession periodically, I think once a month.

If you have not been to confession in 4 years because you have no mortal sin sstopping you from communion, it is good that you have no mortal sin but it is bad that you have not gone to confession still.

If you have been receiving communion with unconfessed mortal sin (s) these 4 years, then you have been committing sacriledge these 4 years.

Either way, you need to go to confession as soon as possible.

Jesus loves you and is waiting to shower his mercy upon you in the Sacrament of Reconciliation...and nourish you with his whole self in the Sacrament of Holy Communion.

Please dear one, promise me that you will go.

*smiles*

maureensylvia: as for me, i cant remember the last time i went for confession. it was like maybe 2009 although am a staunch catholic but people said that its not good some said that its good. what is your opinion?

The OP obviously presumes the responses to be from religious people. He said "who will God punish?" He is not expecting a debate about God's existence with people who dont believe in God.


If you are so keen to debate whether abortion should have any thing to do with religion...or whether there are consequences for sin, I'll be happy to tell you if you open another thread for that.

But why would you want to debate "religious nuts?"

Delafruita: you make a claim and then choose not to explain it?

first,abortion should have nothing to do with religion.it should be about the right of a woman to choose what to do with her body.it is now left to government to regulate it and make it safe.

I will really like to understand what You mean by "abortion will bring suffering upon the innocent".how different is that from the nutcase that said hurricane sandy was because of gayss?you religious nuts seem to have a slave mentality.you believe because you have surrendered your thought process and ability to think rationally to a skydaddy then the entire world owes you guys the duty of streamlining laws,rules and practices to what is acceptable to yahweh.sorry to burst your bubble but you might have to wait till jesus comes in his blaze of glory to do his thing and give y'all the new world then you can do whatever you like.earth is inhabited by people and not zombies

Once again, I dint read this product of randomness and mindlessness.

May the peace of the Lord come upon you.

wiegraf: God isn't because I say so, prove to me it is.



You like to mask your vacuousness by claiming you're sticking only to the topic, or what your myopia and dishonesty decrees is the topic (SHIKENA!!), and claim everything else is irrelevant. So I'm confused as to why you feel the need to add this your jara. Why do you think I care about this your foo.lish opinion over here? I mean, if you really didn't care, then why not ignore it like you ignore everything else, relevant or not?

Anyways, we can do this all day. Your post was unquestionably [size=20pt]FOO.LISH[/size], because I say so. Prove to me isn't.

I'll do one better and say all your posts, pablum as they are, should be reserved for children's storybooks. Because I say so.

You don come again. Arent you the guy that said Fornication and stealing cant lead one to hell because they arent sins against God?

Now who tells you that God doesn't speak in a voice that humans can withstand?

oluface: God dont speak with human physical this time. Moses is the Only One God has Spoken with. Just imagine the sound of heavy thurnder, no one can withstand it talk less of God voice. Na die

Where had I been replying the "Enigma" on this thread? Please show me.

Isnt this another cheap lie?

Please just be quiet and read from the Church Fathers.

adsonstone: I also noticed you have carefully refused to reproof Enigma as you have been doing before you were exposed.

This one has nothing else meaningful to say. Na to dey lie and deny truth without any evidence remain for am.

Just look at his posts. What useful information has he brought forward?

ZERO or next to ZERO.

chukwudi44: Olodo did you bother to read the contents of that treatise? Is it in consonance with the protestant church? The title of that treatise is called "on the unity of the catholic church"

Do not accuse me of twisting any scripture as I am merely quoting these church fathers.

The same lie again.

I have never said the decisions of the Catholic Church are superior to what written...and you cannot provide evidence. Please stop bearing false witness. It is a sin.

God's Church Traditions are in unison with God's written word, not in competition.

It was St. Paul that said "hold fast to the traditions we have handed down to you by word of mouth or by letter." It wasn't Italo.

Please stop telling lies against me.

adsonstone: Haba Brother Chukwudi,
is it the same epistle that he wrote on 'the unity of the church' you have fraudulently included 'catholic' just as the other users (posters) on various catholic sites all over the internet?
Again, I'm not surprised about your twist.
Your brother Italo also twisted an epistle of Apostle Paul to defend the superiority of the (catholic) church's decisons over what is written in the epistle for the church to follow.

There's no need for anyone who has integrity to keep discussing with you if you cannot be held accountable for your words.

You have told two lies against me and can neither provide evidence nor accept that they are false.

1. That I believe the Church is superior to Christ's word.

2. That I called one "Enigma" "liar."

If anyone continues to discuss with you, you will just continue telling lies that are plain to see, yet fail to admit the falsehood nor provide evidence.

For a normal Child of God, calling black white or calling Pope Francis a non-Catholic would be unreasonable, but not for you. You have told similar lies already.

You are indeed a good student of your master.

adsonstone: Now that you cant refute the truth that these people that arent catholics, I noticed how you divulged whats on hand (which you always do when you see truth) and resorted to the 'I said you called Enigma a liar' which you generalised after Enigma's comment by saying that protestants find it easy to tell blatant lies against catholics.

I also noticed you have carefully refused to reproof Enigma as you have been doing before you were exposed.

By the way, the bolded is totally unreasonable.

God speaks a lot to me through dreams and signs which would seem like coincidence but they aren't.

festusfeezy: We often assume God
‘speaking’ means hearing an audible voice
thundering down from heaven in a
boisterous, “Thus sayeth the Lord!” kind
of way. Though I do know a few people
who claim to have heard God audibly.
But like serious, some says God can speak to u thru ur body language., thru dreams, visions etc.

like seriuos do u believe God speaks, if yes, wat means? I need ur candid opinions pls.

[quote author=rapture_ready]Transubstantiation - now that's a mouthful!

No it is not his real body and blood. Jesus wasn't trying to turn his disciples and us into cannibals and vampires.

I mean, if he wanted us to eat his real flesh and gorge on his blood, during the last supper in the bible, he'd have cut maybe one hand or leg off and shared it among a bewildered Peter and the rest of his disciples.

If after the priest prayed, the wine turned into blood, IT WILL TASTE LIKE BLOOD! And you'll all go - puuuuuuke!

It's a symbolic occasion. Jesus only wanted us to commemorate his death on the cross - "and as you eat it REMEMBER ME..."[/quote]When God came to earth as man, he looked, talked, walked like man...but he was God. Those who reasoned like you crucified him for blasphemy.

"You being a man, claim to be God."

The Jews saw a mere man (a special man at most); Christians know that he was God.

In Holy Communion, many "Christians" see bread and wine (special bread and at most); we Catholics know He is Jesus - God.

tex baba: I brougth in all christian cos most churches do communion service where bread nd wine is shared to the congregation. Its just that catholics take it more seriously, as holy communion is given everyday there is mass.

We take it seriously because we know Jesus is truly in the Holy Eucharist (Communion).

Who wouldn't take Jesus seriously? Even Pilate did.

[quote author=Nn-a-Nn-a]it has no physical significance like wine turning to blood, u just connect by faith fr whatever u r believng God fr and God responds[/quote]This is your own private teaching, right?

You think the body and blood of Christ is just there to serve as a genie that grants your wishes? No.

It is much more than that. Holy Communion is a profound expression of love expressed by God for us as he not only came in human flesh to live among us but chose to remain with us so that we can be physically one with him in intimate love.

OP,

At every mass, the bread and wine turn into the actual body and blood of Christ when the Priest consecrates them...

...just like Jesus took bread and wine but after he prayed, he said "this is my body," "this is my blood."

It is Jesus that said so, and we Catholics believe him.

Prayer to St. Joseph

Oh, St. Joseph, whose protection is so great, so strong, so prompt before the throne of God. I place in you all my interests and desires. Oh, St. Joseph, do assist me by your powerful intercession, and obtain for me from your devine Son all spiritual blessings, through Jesus Christ, our Lord. So that, having engaged here below your heavenly power, I may offer my thanksgiving and homage to the most loving of Fathers.Oh, St. Joseph, I never weary of contemplating you, and Jesus asleep in your arms; I dare not approach while He reposes near your heart. Press Him in my name and kiss His fine head for me and ask him to return the Kiss when I draw my dying breath. St. Joseph, Patron of departing souls - Pray for me.

truthislight: It is note worthy that all the books of the NT used for teaching were writen by christ apostles, hence, colation of this apostolic writings was a straigth forward thing since none apostolic writings has no basis to be considered as inspired like that of the apostles.

italo: Yet Truthislife (Protestant) insists that Mark and Luke arent inspired books.

truthislight:
I cant remember making such ^^^ statement as above.

I had said: the teaching of the NT are made by christ apostles.

So, your statement above is another of your usual twisting that is not the truth/facts.

However, the writings of mark, luck(acts of the apostles) are reported history.

Mark = history/gosple of christ.
Luke(acts) = history of the apostles.

Both ^ are repoted history.

Whichever way you look at it, what i had stated is the simple truth.

Meanwhile, reading the acts of the apostle, you will get a testimony for those men and their activities in the early christian congregation, they were with the apostles and traveled with them and hence wrote wthat they saw.

Peace

Ha!

"all the books of the NT used for teaching were writen by christ apostles"

"none apostolic writings has no basis to be considered as inspired like that of the apostles."

Sal C: When was the last time you treated malaria?

Lmao...

For me, the key thing is: all she is, she derives from God.

And with God, ALL things are possible.

If we can do ALL things, with God, then we cannot even begin to imagine the power of the blessed virgin.

Sometimes I wish I were a woman so I could just imagine what it would have felt like to carry the God - creator of the world in my womb...

...then I immediately say to myself: far be it from me that I should even imagine it...filthy worm that I am.

Mama Maria just dey on another level abeg.

chukwudi44: " I never said Paul quoted
this book. in fact Paul was
recounting the story of what
happened in the past. that Paul
mentioned the names of these men
that we never find in the scriptures
is no reason to conclude that he
was quoting a different book. Even
if he got the knowledge from or
quoted a secular book, that doesnt
make the book an inspired book."

Bros you are the one calling it a secular source without any proof whatsorever.Even if I were to assume it is a secular source like you claim,the mere fact that. Paul would cite a secular source to buttress his scriptural teachings makes nonsense of your sola bible doctrine.Once again the doctrine of sola bible is disgraced

Gbam!

wiegraf: I propose an award for most foo.lish post of the year. The way you express so much nonsense with so few words demands some acclaim.

Ok, I have a purpose, because I say so. Prove to me that I am purposeless.

Note, this is actually a sensible request, but I'll ignore that for now...

God is because we say so. Prove to us that God isnt.

I would be glad to receive your award...considering who is calling me "foolish."

What would hurt me is when thinking adults call me foolish...or when foolish people call me wise. That'd really hurt.

Syncan: Thats my take on it too, just do not know about the date on Fr. Paul.

Yes, there are quite a few conflicting accounts. But 1920 seems to be a general consensus. That's the date according to the SMA (Society of African Missions)

I believe they are as authoritative as it can get on this matter.

Mr Troll: But you want laws to be made based on your unproved claims. Lol, we are not stupid you know.

Prove that you're not stupid.

adsonstone: I've not really been having so much access here (cos of the issues I av with my phone), I'm just trying to keep up with the updates here.

@Enigma, thank you for your post. I learned from it.

Back to Italo, you requested the church fathers who did not have the same practices as you do (Catholic).

Polycarp
Jerome
Clement of Alexandria (this man's name was even removed due to the 'mago mago' of Pope sixtus)
John Chrysosotom
Cyprian of Catharage.

When you get back to study, read on this men and stop concluding what is not.

For starters, I requested many things, including proof of your LIE against me. This is at least the fifth time I'm requesting this.

Lets see if you have any integrity left.

Why should anyone engage a shameless liar in any reasonable discussion?

What stops you from saying white is black or red is blue or Pope Francis is not Catholic?

You'll just keep lying your way around, wont you?

Like teacher, like student.

Sal C: The triumphant church: the saints who has made it to heaven.
The sufering church: the holy souls in purgatory.
The millitant or pilgrim church: we that are still alive thriving to make heaven.

Isnt it a great family we have?

One that death cannot scatter.

The triumphant pray for the militant/pilgrim; they, in turn, pray for the suffering.

One day, we'll all be together before our God. Amen! Amen!

Mr Troll: Hehehehehe. My good Italo. He says there's an invisible flying teapot above our heads, you say prove it. He says PROVE THAT THERE'S NO INVISIBLE FLYING TEAPOT!
craze man.

Why should I prove anything to a self-professed mindless, purposeless, random particle?

I dont get it

Sarassin: The epistle was a clear fabrication, it was supposedly delivered by the apostle Thaddeus, together with a self-portrait by the artist – Jesus (he wiped his face with the canvass), which brought me to respond to the poster. The forgery is almost certainly the work of Eusebius. He claimed to have found them written in Syriac and personally translated them into Greek, I hope that clears matters.

Maybe it does clear the matter...or maybe it doesn't.

We should be careful about labelling a man a forger when there is no conclusive evidence that he forged.

There remains a possibility that Eusebius found it as he said.

And if he forged it, it wouldnt mean that he couldnt have had other writings that would have been verified to be accurate.

And if he couldn't possibly write any truth because he lied once, it wouldn't mean there aren't any other historical proofs of the use of images in the early Church. Indeed, there are many.

asco15: No any concrete proof to weda mary cn hear all our hail marys. Then i see no need to continue praying to her since i knw dat Jesus is the only way to Heaven. It means dat i cn still make heaven if i hv Jesus and dn't hv mary, just like my elder bro. Paul did.

If Father Abraham could be in heaven and hear the rich man in hades; Mother Mary in heaven can also hear me on earth.

Alleluia!

Keep looking for liars that would tell you all the lies you want to hear about the Catholic Church while Mother Mary continues to hear and intercede for us.

As you type, our Mummy is knocking on Jesus' door for us. Asking him to provide us wine.

As you type, we're listening to our Mummy say "do whatever He tells you."

As you type, Mummy is making Jesus do things even when the "time has not yet come."

Many good things! Physical and spiritual... temporal and eternal.

Keep fighting against devotion to the Mother of God. Perhaps, God will be proud of you.

Rich4god: Triumphant, Militant and Sufferings.
Hope am right.
I want to know... Who is the first Nigerian...
Cardinal
Priest and
Bishop
Bishop

Dominic Ignatius Cardinal Ekandem was the first Nigerian Cardinal and first West African Bishop. He became a Cardinal in 1976.

Father Paul Emechete was the first Nigerian Priest. He was ordained in 1920.

Ukuts gp: Roman catholic is built on falsehood. Everyone knows that. They are all bunch of liars. And italo and his crew dnt want to be free. I pity them sha.

Yet Truthislife (Protestant) insists that Mark and Luke arent inspired books.

Adsonstone (Deeper Life) says that I called one "Enigma" "liar."

Mko2005 (Protestant) says that Catholicism teaches that non-Catholics are going to hell.

...I have not even mentioned your big-daddy in fraud...all on this thread alone.

In other threads recently, another Protestant said the Rosary prayer doesn't make mention of "Jesus." Another one said he was made to swear an oath of secrecy in seminary to keep the dirty secrets of the Church.

All without one shred of evidence to back up their claims even though these are all easily verifiable.

There are dozens more...these are just the ones I dont have to think to remember.

It seems that it is Protestantism that is built on falsehood that's why you guys must resort to lies to defend it.

We know that satan is the father of lies. If the Catholic Church were built on lies, you wouldn't need lies to challenge it.

Afterall, satan cannot fight his own self.