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NumberOne2:
Oh my religious people!...As it was in the beginning, is now and ever shall be World without end, Right?
So, why did Jesus not take a knife and cut his body and pour his blood for them. Apostle Peter had a sharp sword with him.

He didn't want to. He wanted to make the bread his body by proclaiming it so...and he did it that way.

"This is my body!"

Nothing you say can twist that.

BraveGuy:
You have been misinformed again or your conclusion is just as wrong.

Here is the truth:
The Word became flesh - John 1:1
That flesh was given by Jesus to the Jews (and to anyone who would believe) - John 6:51 & 54

[size=14pt]The flesh = the Bread = the Word. In essence, He was asking people to accept the Word of God, not to become cannibals. [/size]

The Word contains contains Life - the Life of God.

Jesus says in John 6:63, "It is the spirit that quickeneth; the flesh profiteth nothing: the words that I speak unto you, they are spirit, and they are life."

2 Corinthians 3:6 Who also hath made us able ministers of the new testament; not of the letter, but of the spirit: for the letter killeth, but the spirit giveth life.

[size=14pt]The Blood contains life, but this is the very essence of God - His Spirit.[/size]
Leviticus 17:11

Just as physical blood carries life (mostly oxygen), the same with the Blood of the Lamb, it carries the Life of God.

The Blood is represented by the Wine, non-alcoholic, as Jesus' Blood never had any form of impurity. So, the wine should not be alcoholic.

Ephesians 5:18 says, "And be not drunk with wine, wherein is excess; but be filled with the Spirit;"

When people saw those who were filled with the Spirit of God, they taught they had been drinking wine, not because they lost control of their senses, but because they spoke in tongues.

So, you were right at the initial time that it was a representation/symbol of the flesh and blood, but because there was no proper explanation or understanding, flasehood slipped in and you were misled. I was like that too, but now I understand better. Hosea 4:6 - Ignorance is terrible. Thank God, I am not ignorant anymore!

Matt 26

26 While they were eating, Jesus took a loaf of bread, and after blessing it he broke it, gave it to the disciples, and said, “Take, eat; this is my body.” 27 Then he took a cup, and after giving thanks he gave it to them, saying, “Drink from it, all of you; 28 for this is my blood of the[d] covenant, which is poured out for many for the forgiveness of sins

All the epistles in the world cannot twist that!

onetrack:
The people of the Republic of Ireland, once virtually controlled by the Catholic Church, voted to legalize same-sex marriages today in defiance of the wishes of the Church. Glad to see that the Irish people have finally broken the hold that the Church has had on people for the last 1000 years. This is despite the fact that the Church still virtually controls the Irish education system.

The church needs to read the writing on the wall: reform or perish.

That's what the Pharisees said...that's what the Roman Emperors said...that's what the communists said...

All these empires and entities have long perished, while the Church continues to flourish without reform.

Kamsified:
@Italo as we pray for you this day, may The Lord who knows our heart desires meet you at the point of your needs. May he guide you in every step/decision you take and may the peace of God which surpasses all understanding keep you heart and mind through Christ Jesus. For these I pray through Christ our Lord. Amen

Syncan:
May the good Lord receive our praises and
grant us many testimonies in our lives. Amen.
May the Lord meet you at your points of need
Italo
Good Morning brethren, a splendid day ahead
to all.

Amen. May the Lord give you guys some of my own portion of blessings to add to yours.

SalC:
Italo dear may the Lord your maker favour that which concerns you, may he give you help from zion and cause you to be steadfast in him through Christ our Lord.

Amen. God bless you.

Kamsified:
I have a feeling that uncle Italo has been at capital oil gas station all day looking for cheap fuel Hence I'll go ahead n chose his special psalm for tomorrow except I hear from him before midnight

No I'm not at Capital Oil...lol.

Psalm 138, please.

God bless you.

MhizZK:
Yorubadt pple,na inside blood greeting nd respect dey.

Greeting is not respect.

scholes0:
Have you put the states pipulations into consideration before jubilating?
lol Ekiti is like a tiny state compared to the likes of Anambra and Imo and yet it is in number 4 and Ondo in 6.
Hardly worth Jubilating about, do Doctors and Proffessors per capita and Ekiti an Ondo still lead.
Also can we see actual numerical figures?

What about Oyo, Ogun with large population?

sokera:
Im a yoruba guy, the simple truth is that Igbo gilrls are the best for Yoruba guys because yoruba guys compliment Igbo girls more than Igbo guys, every typical Igbo girl want to taste a yoruba guy, they say yoruba guys are more calm and romantic ...

You have told us why you think Igbo girls want to taste Yoruba guys.

Tell us also, why Yoruba guys want igbo girls.

balotelli:
My brother please do no not marry an Igbo woman .The tribe is the worst in Nigeria the Hausas the Yorubas detest them .

That is why the Hausas and Yorubas don't want them to secede from Nigeria and have their own country.

balotelli:
Think of the breed your children will be .I hope it doesn't count against them in future .

Like it counted against Emeka Anyaoku, Chinua Achebe, Chimamanda Adichie etc.

balotelli:
Think we'll bros they are greedy people

E.g Tinubu

balotelli:
wicked

E.g Obasanjo

balotelli:
and will use religion to bamboozle you even though they are the devils incarnate

E.g TB Joshua, Oyedepo etc.

All I see is envy of Igbos in display.

FrancisTony:
Is the man a muslim or christian?
I haven't seen a christian yoruba man marrying a second wife and most times, the muslim ones don't venture into polygamy when they marry a Christian woman.

My advice; they should follow their heart not people's own.

Obasanjo, Ebenezer Obey and countless other Yoruba Christians are polygamous.

delishpot:
Yes Sir. No problem Sir. BTW sir, I dont bother myself about anybody who knowingly does what ever he or she wants to do. Wetin be my own? Bother fa? , I only mentioned my opinion I did not say I was bothered o. Dont worry about me bothering. Rest assured I am not the least bothered by what image you mould at your door mouth or what corpse you guys save to call saint. I am the least bothered. Biko sleep tight knowing that e nor bother me.

OK. Keep refraining from keeping images (pictures, sculptures) of your loved ones around you. And keep refraining from revering the relics of the saints.

Keep spending your time and energy posting about Catholic practices you are ignorant about...then claim not to be bothered about them.

We Catholics will continue to keep images (pictures, sculptures) to remember our most beloved in heaven and on earth. And we will continue to keep and rever their relics, just like Christians have always done.

We Catholics don't even know you or what you represent.

Your words are worthless.

EbolaParasite:
Read the previous posts to see where I got it from. Stop dodging and answer. Okay simple question. Do they get a pass or not?

Some do, some don't.

You either didn't read my initial posts...or you chose not to understand it.

delishpot:
So if I am not praying to Mary to intercede for me, I must be praying to Gbenga or chukwuma ba? Hahaha. I cant shout oooo . My dear I pray to Jehovah direct. I believe in Jesus as his Son and bringer of the goodnews who gave his life that we may be saved. I do not involve mary, gbenga, chukwuma, st lucy or st benedict, peter or paul in my prayers. They have lived their lives and done their bit. Now we are to do ours and pass the baton to the next generation

OK. Keep praying to God direct, don't ever ask anyone to pray for you. And keep bothering yourself about Catholic practices.


We Catholics will keep praying to God direct and also keep asking our brothers and sisters in heaven to pray for us.

Catholics are not bothered about you or what you practise.

EbolaParasite:
Answer me and stop dodging juh.

As far as I know, you are the one who made the following claims:

EbolaParasite:
What I mean by free pass is this : IF the claim is that our ancestors had no access to the gospel, as such they will make heaven, then they are getting a free pass. They should have been availed of the opportunity to know about and/or accept Christ. We on the other hand have no choice.

Then you ask me to answer these:

EbolaParasite:
We are all humans so why do they get a free pass? I can guarantee that some of them would not have accepted Christ if they knew him back then so why do they get a free pass and not us?

Bros, you are the one who believe and claim they get a free pass so you should be the one telling me why they get a free pass.

EbolaParasite:
What I mean by free pass is this : IF the claim is that our ancestors had no access to the gospel, as such they will make heaven, then they are getting a free pass. They should have been availed of the opportunity to know about and/or accept Christ. We on the other hand have no choice. We are all humans so why do they get a free pass? I can guarantee that some of them would not have accepted Christ if they knew him back then so why do they get a free pass and not us?

Whose claim?

Why are you asking me such question based on a claim I know not where you picked it from?

EbolaParasite:
Our ancestors that gave accounts of the deities they believed in were guided by the Devil

So you said.

EbolaParasite:
So all man isn't equal? Why was the gospel preached to the westerners but not our ancestors? Agreed, there were no planes to spread the word back then. Does God hate Africans? Why didn't the gospel get here. Why did it have to get here through slavery and colonization? How come our ancestors believed in other deities? Where did they get that from? IF all MAN is created equal, WHY SHOULD SOME PEOPLE GET A FREE PASS BECAUSE THEY DIDN'T GET THE GOSPEL?

Show me where I said anyone will get a free pass.

Your preconceived ideas are seemingly getting in the way of a reasonable discussion here.

EbolaParasite:
You say those pastors are impostors and you believe every single word that the Catholic compilers put forth? Since the compilers of the book were HUMANS, isn't it possible that their own AGENDA may have been added? Or they are infallible because they were WHITE

Infallible because they are guided by the Holy Spirit.

kalybaly:
Muslims only defend themselves against oppressors. Never ever on the offensive. You seem to be digging out Hadith which probably you saw online. That's what the enemies of Islam are using to poison the hearts of those that are not well established in religion. I know a lot of people that are not Muslims but are born to a christian family but themselves are not xtain. So your opinion.. But I advise you read the Quraan yourselves.

Off point. Stop beating around the bush. Here are the questions I asked you. Why are you dodging them?

So on that basis of the Jews and Christians making Islam hard for muslims, you can kill a soul, and it would be justified?

Are you saying "corruption done in the land" means only making it hard for Muslims to practice Islam? What about homosexual acts, for example, is it not corruption?

Also show me where the Jews and Christians were making it hard for muslims?

delishpot:
I was not talkibg about images. I eas talking about praying to images. No one ahould even pray to image of Jesus. If its carved and prayed to, then its a graven image. Be it that of Jesus, Mary and Joseph.

Catholics pray to the image of mary. They use that image to represent a being that can help them in daily struggles.
How you take know where mary dey? Did God tell us to pray to him through any man/ woman presumed to be sitting with him? So if someone we call good dies, and we feel he is with God, that means we can start praying to him?
Its ok sha. To each his own.
I onky commented at your comparison between the ark, the bronze serpent and the graven image if mary and so called saints.

Mary is alive in heaven and she is the mother of Jesus.

We will continue to pray to her to intercede for us...

Meanwhile, you can continue to ignore her and pray to Gbenga or Chukwuma to intercede for you.

One day, you will know whose intercession is more useful.

delishpot:
That nor concrern me o. I know catholics pray directly to mary and ask her in turn to pray to jesus for them.

I thought you were talking about images.

As for Mary, she is not an image. She is the Mother of Jesus Christ, who continues to live with him in heaven. So we talk to her.

Have you never heard that believers will never die?

elantraceey:
If I were the girl , you'll come pick me in my room for coming late.

And I won't end the relationship in that instance where my supposed boyfriend prefers another girl sitting in front than me , I'll just tell them to go have fun and go back to my room .

Imagine you were the girl the boyfriend came with. Imagine the boyfriend was your very close cousin (like a sibling) whom the new girlfriend had never met. Imagine you were gladly looking forward to meeting the girl your 'brother' had been talking about.

Then imagine that the girlfriend behaved the way it was narrated.

What would you think of her?
How do you think your brother would feel?
What would you expect him to say to the girlfriend at that moment?

elantraceey:
Nope it won't but it signifies respect and value.


If he simply said baby please just sit at the back we'll talk later is understandable not shouting.

You expect a guy to behave civil and say the bold when the girl behaved like an iddiot and said the below?

"close to his vehicle then i noticed that a girl was sitting beside him so i walked up to her told her that i want to sit beside my boyfriend since i knew she was not his sister."

Ladies can be utterly unreasonable many times.

EbolaParasite:
I respectfully disagree. If i live a good and moral life, i will make heaven whether or not i accept Christ. If your statement is true, then all our ancestors that never knew Christ simply because they had no contact with the white man are all in Hell? I disagree.

If you willfully reject Christ by your own making, you will not enter Christ's home (heaven) whether you do good or not.

Our ancestors never knew Christ, so they will be judged with their conscience.

Two different things.

delishpot:
Ark was not worshiped or prayed to directly. The bronze serpent was not worshiped or prayed to directly as if it was a mini god.

Same with our images.

EbolaParasite:
Eh, all the pastors in Nigeria

and it's in the holy book.

Those "pastors" are impostors. The one body that Jesus gave authority to teach in his name is The Catholic Church, which compiled the same Bible that these impostors bastardize.

Listen to God as he speaks through scripture and his Catholic Church below, and see the consistency of truth:

Romans 2

14 When Gentiles, who do not possess the law, do instinctively what the law requires, these, though not having the law, are a law to themselves. 15 They show that what the law requires is written on their hearts, to which their own conscience also bears witness; and their conflicting thoughts will accuse or perhaps excuse them 16 on the day when, according to my gospel, God, through Jesus Christ, will judge the secret thoughts of all.

Catechism of the Catholic Church

"Outside the Church there is no salvation"

846 How are we to understand this affirmation, often repeated by the Church Fathers? Re-formulated positively, it means that all salvation comes from Christ the Head through the Church which is his Body:

Basing itself on Scripture and Tradition, the Council teaches that the Church, a pilgrim now on earth, is necessary for salvation: the one Christ is the mediator and the way of salvation; he is present to us in his body which is the Church. He himself explicitly asserted the necessity of faith and Baptism, and thereby affirmed at the same time the necessity of the Church which men enter through Baptism as through a door. Hence they could not be saved who, knowing that the Catholic Church was founded as necessary by God through Christ, would refuse either to enter it or to remain in it.

847 This affirmation is not aimed at those who, through no fault of their own, do not know Christ and his Church:

Those who, through no fault of their own, do not know the Gospel of Christ or his Church, but who nevertheless seek God with a sincere heart, and, moved by grace, try in their actions to do his will as they know it through the dictates of their conscience - those too may achieve eternal salvation.

848 "Although in ways known to himself God can lead those who, through no fault of their own, are ignorant of the Gospel, to that faith without which it is impossible to please him, the Church still has the obligation and also the sacred right to evangelize all men."

kalybaly:
You learn one part of the Quran and abandon the others. You need to know the Quran was referring to the situations of that time. Islam was referred to as a confirmation of what has already been give to the Jews and xtians and they all feel threatened by this. Hence they start to make the new religion or better still the updated religion hard for the worshippers. The religion in which both the poor and rich feel no different from one another.

So on that basis of the Jews and Christians making Islam hard for muslims, you can kill a soul, and it would be justified.

Are you saying "corruption done in the land" means only making it hard for Muslims to practice Islam? What about homosexual acts, for example, is it not corruption done in the land?

Also show me where the Jews and Christians were making it hard for muslims?

kalybaly:
What a conclusion you gave.. You shouldn't mislead others.
That's no way to interpret the Hadith. Prophet said thou shall not kill children unless you know what khadir knows. Prophet had to make mention of khadir because he knows the people would ask him about khadir experience. Khadir was a very spiritual person even Moses couldn't understand his actions even till they departed. This means prophet was saying categorically that killing of children is wrong. It's more like saying cross the ocean if you know you won't drown!

Lol...what about the women he killed?


From the Hadith:

(Ibn Ishaq/Hisham 819, Abu Dawud 2678).

Narrated Sa'id ibn Yarbu' al-Makhzumi: The Prophet (peace_be_upon_him) said: on the day of the conquest of Mecca: There are four persons whom I shall not give protection in the sacred and non-sacred territory. He then named them. There were two singing girls of al-Maqis; one of them was killed and the other escaped and embraced Islam.

You missed that?

mathskill:
So catholics are not christians according to you abi? I am begining to see you as a true shrink specimen.

Strictly speaking, Christianity is Catholicism and it started in the first century. Anglicanism, that started in the 16th century, is not my religion. Stop trying to force a strange religion on me just to defend that murderous paedophile.

mathskill:
So when it suits you the prophets opinion is of great respect to you cos he said Jesus is great but when you see him through your myopic islamophobic eyes he is something else altogether. Sho!you be one big hypocrite.

Muhammad was always deluded and evil, to me. Even if he said Jesus is Lord. Demons said the same in the Bible. It's you who has to make up your mind. Is Jesus a homosexual or a prophet?

mathskill:
You produced a picture of mass wedding for hamas members holding their little nieces/cousin and falsly presented it as a wedding btw them i pointed your deceit yet you went and another stage managed video.
i dont blame you when the whole premise of your religion is founded on deceit.
Visit a shrink and cure your Islamophobia.

You pointed but you can't prove that the little girls aren't brides...or that the video is stage-managed. is the Hadith that said Muhammad defiled 9 year old Aisha also stage-managed?

And you still can't answer my simple questions in bold like I'm answering yours.

What does your religion say or do about old Muslim men that sleep with 9 year old girls?

Would you let your Imam marry and defile your 6 year old daughter?

EbolaParasite:
As far as I know/have been told, if the guy "former robber/murderer" is really born again and remains that way, he will go to heaven.
Also "they" say you can't make heaven unless you accept Christ which means even if you are the most moral person, kind, gentle, caring, loving, can't hurt a fly kinda person, you won't make heaven unless you accept Christ. That's what I have been told

My question was "who told you?"

It's possible you've been listening to the wrong people.

MizTyna:
That wasnt the point i was trying to make. My point is,they are not being adopted cos Nigerians dont seem to like it

Okay.