EbolaParasite: It leaves a lot to be answered you know. Basically, this guy that "wasted" a lot of lives and became "Born Again" will go to heaven but anyone that does not accept Christ "even though you are good person throughout your life" will not make heaven. I am confused.
Who told you he is assured of heaven?
Who told you good people who don't accept Christ will go to hell?
davien: According to the bible(specifically revelation), those that were killed unjustly cry out to "god" for vengeance, does that mean his won't take place and those lives would get no retribution?
Ultimately this would mean "god" wasn't just as it turned a blind eye to those killed then also decided to render mercy to the killer instead on the account of acknowledging his existence only....
Imagine a human court run in this manner, where your crimes are instantly forgiven if you "honour" the judge,would you find such a system just?
According to the Catholic Church, we pay for all our sins, in this life, in the next, or both...regardless of whether God forgives us or not.
A biblical example is David who was forgiven, yet punished with the death of his son.
kalybaly: I would give you a quote from the Quran which says... "Whoever kills an innocent man is as if he has killed all mankind"
Here's the full quote:
Quran 5:32,33.
32
Because of that, We decreed upon the Children of Israel that whoever kills a soul unless for a soul or for corruption [done] in the land - it is as if he had slain mankind entirely. And whoever saves one - it is as if he had saved mankind entirely. And our messengers had certainly come to them with clear proofs. Then indeed many of them, [even] after that, throughout the land, were transgressors.
33
Indeed, the penalty for those who wage war against Allah and His Messenger and strive upon earth [to cause] corruption is none but that they be killed or crucified or that their hands and feet be cut off from opposite sides or that they be exiled from the land. That is for them a disgrace in this world; and for them in the Hereafter is a great punishment,
Meaning that an infidel like Christians and Jews can be killed for doing corruption in the land.
kalybaly: As much as I would like to ignore what you said because it's ignorant and you based it on nothing. Islam and even the Arabs till today frowned against such ignominious act.
From the Hadith:
(Ibn Ishaq/Hisham 819, Abu Dawud 2678).
Narrated Sa'id ibn Yarbu' al-Makhzumi: The Prophet (peace_be_upon_him) said: on the day of the conquest of Mecca: There are four persons whom I shall not give protection in the sacred and non-sacred territory. He then named them. There were two singing girls of al-Maqis; one of them was killed and the other escaped and embraced Islam.
The Messenger of Allah (may peace be upon him) used not to kill the children, so thou shouldst not kill them unless you could know what Khadir had known about the child he killed, or you could distinguish between a child who would grow up to he a believer (and a child who would grow up to be a non-believer), so that you killed the (prospective) non-believer and left the (prospective) believer aside. (Sahih Muslim 4457)
Muhammad killed/ordered the killing/permitted the killing of women and children, just like Boko Haram and ISIS.
mathskill: Why can't you engage in a meaningful discussion on an intelligent level without bringing deceit. You scoured the internet and got pictures of a mass wedding organized for Hamas men holding the hands of their nieces or cousins. Well Shame on you.
Shame on me? Shame on Muhammad and you muslim men who marry and defile 6 year old children. I have given you evidence from the Hadith, I have given you pictures, now I give you video evidence. Listen to a little girl talk to you in the video.
mathskill: Another point i will take you on is the inherent ignorance you exhibit concerning paedophile. cross check the meaning. Well a paedophile woulnt hv married a much older lady as his first wife as prophet muhammed did. I Bet you chose to ignore that.another deceit on your part.
A paedophile is someone who is sexually attracted to a child. Muhammad defiled a 9 year old child, so he was a paedophile.
mathskill: Now you continue to argue that Gene Robinson isnt catholic, well how does that line of arguement sound to you?shallow isnt it? The poi nt is no matter his denomination he is first and foremost a christian,yes a gay one for tthat matter. Hhomosexualitu is rooted within the church and that is why it is unstoppable in predominantly christian countries.
The Catholic Church is the only Church. My religion is Catholicism, not Anglicanism. Stop trying to force a strange religion on me just to defend that deranged paedophile.
mathskill: Infact there are insunuations that Jesus himself is one. Remember St. Mark chapter 10 btw verse 34 to 35 about the youth he raised from the dead... well i am sure you knw the rest. it is no surprising their is an awakening of gays in the church cos they are doing thier lords bidding.
If Jesus was a homosexual, remember that Muhammad called him a great prophet.
So make up your mind:
Q1. is Jesus a homosexual or a great prophet?
Q2. What does your religion do or say about old men who marry and defile 6 year old girls like in the pictures below?
Q3. Can you allow your Imam marry and defile your 6 year old daughter if she doesn't complain?
mathskill: "She narrated" and did that sound like complain to you.
Islamophobia is truly a disease. Visit a shrink and cure your illness.
So it is okay to rape a 9 year old if she doesn't complain?
At first you lied that Muhammad slept with Aisha when she was matured. You said I was ignorant. Now you admit that he defiled her when she was a 9 year old child, only, she didn't complain. Who is ignorant and sick and stupidd now?
Seems like Islam is the disease.
mathskill: Despicable is when adherent of a religion deny the enshrined homos within themselves
Gene Robinson is not Catholic. You still can't mention one homo that is denied in my religion. Remember that I gave you evidence of 400 priests and bishops that were removed because of child abuse, yet you choose to lie to yourself.
Q1. What does your religion do or say about old men who marry and defile 6 year old girls like in the pictures below?
Q2. Can you allow your Imam marry and defile your 6 year old daughter if she doesn't complain?
MizTyna: Exactly my point. Let's leave faith or anything out of it and face cold hard facts. Those children are in for a tough life. Go to little saints orphanages and co,children full there with no hope of adoption
I visit orphanages regularly. Children in Little Saints and other countless orphanages are better looked-after than millions of children who live with their mothers.
nairalandist: So you guys think such babies are meant to be kept? Don't you know that the boko haram babies will be a reminder of the gruesome experience to the girls who were kidnapped? Do you think they can ever love them?
You guys don't know anything. I go with the UN on that. I think it's better for them to abort the babies and start a new life. If there's anytime to abort a child, it's in a case like that. God forbid, but would you advise your own sister or wife to keep a rape baby or a boko haram baby? Please, the UN has given wise counsel, it's not about taboo or tradition right now... it's about doing what's effective.
Lalasticlala front page pls...
The option of having the babies and giving them up for adoption has taken care of the issues you raised.
It is safer and healthier for the girls and the babies.
It is not a grave sin like what you are proposing i.e the mass killing of babies in the womb.
Do you know the dangers of abortion? Do you know it can cause infertility in future for the girls? Do you know it is linked with increased rate of breast cancer? Do you know it can lead their souls to hell?
mathskill: Gene Robinson. There you have it your first openly gay bishop.
Gene Robinson is Anglican, not Catholic. Try again...try harder.
As for your vile accusations on the honor of prophet Muhammed the only thing i can say is you are not the first islamophobe. But you will do your self some good tp visit a shrink and cure yourself of the ailement.
Why do you willfully chose to be blind and unthinking? It's not 'my accusation.' It's his child bride/victim that narrated it, and it's in the Hadith. Read it again, this time apply your thinking faculty to what you're reading.
Volume 7, Book 62, Number 64 : Narrated by 'Aisha That the Prophet married her when she was six years old and he consummated his marriage when she was nine years old, and then she remained with him for nine years (i.e., till his death).
kalybaly: Nothing of such nature is supported in the Quraan. What kind of religion would incite killings of children and women? These are just deranged people and they have a hidden agenda. Isis and its allies are transgressors. They have done the exact opposite of what Islam preaches. And now people are wowed because they don't know anything about Islam initially. I know some people that would not even admit that Islam ever existed talk less of reckoning with it.
Are you saying Mohammed did not kill women and children?
mathskill: I wont call it mischief but ignorance of the highest order. Yes. When u hv little to zero knowledge of a religion but yet quick to pass judgement on it. Yes there was a marriage btw the prophet of Islam Muhammed(SAW) and Aisha who was 9. But i bet you did not know that the union wasnt consummated till she was matured. Which condemnation are you talking about when it merely lip service. Is it not the Pope and senior lieutenants that are actively engaged in protecting priest who are accused of the heinous and shameful going- ons in the Church. Is it not the same churches that ate ordaining gay bishops- seal of approval cant be bettet than that. This canker worm of gayness in the church were they indoctrinate young boys in your religion is what you should be borderd about not the natural union as meant by God in anothet religion.
I will provide evidence that Muhammad married Aisha when she was 6 and slept with her when she was 9.
Volume 7, Book 62, Number 64 : Narrated by 'Aisha That the Prophet married her when she was six years old and he consummated his marriage when she was nine years old, and then she remained with him for nine years (i.e., till his death).
oliidell: This is very unnecessary. Yerima, I don't care about but u shud respect the Prophet.
I did not mention any "prophet." I mentioned "Yerima and Muhammad" (and thousands of people bear those names). Prophets don't marry and defile six year old girls.
focus7: Guy you are acting as a kid. Since you have chosen to let the matter between you and your wife go, your attitude towards your mother inlaw is unnecessary, if she's acting as a normal woman will act, you should display more courtesy pursuing peaceful relationship between you, you have to come to term with the facts that your inlaws are part of your extended family so there shouldn't be need to be prolonging and promoting animosity. That woman deserves every respect you can afford regardless what she has done, you don't make things right by doing wrong.
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This up here, is why nairaland needs a "dislike" button.
And oops while is it that 95 prostitution is controlled by ibo ladies? You want prove of that? Don't u think that's even worst than polygamy and being promiscuous?
That's why your sister is saying all women are prostitutes.
Twistaray: And where is your link as regard yoruba being polygamous and promiscuous? Abi you meant, obe,fela et al is enough to judge over 40million yoruba?
I provided names that are polygamous/promiscuous in marriage...and I have many more names. You cannot provide one single Yoruba out of 40 million that had a sane marriage throughout his life.
For every Yoruba man you mention who lived a sane monogamous life, I will mention 5 who lived like animals, bearing children all over the place and letting them wander without a home or manners.
Twistaray: Lool why apologise when ibo tribe won't let the sleeping dog lie? He toto her and he only opologise for making it public
That is what you said. He said there was no sex. It was your link that told us so.
Twistaray: Did you just Said that i've not provided any? Ooh I see you believed/adopted my link as regards the NL, which you pointed and even went as far as quote the contents therein just to massage your ego but ignore the google link I provided? As regard how yoruba dudes are taking you(ibo ladies) right,left and center abi? Cheii ma'am na wah o Goduu dey oo
You didn't provide a Google link. You only posted a picture. And I can't see any Igbo girl in the pic.
"Iv seen and knew some well educated yoruba men marrying igbo girls this days.im not against this but i thought there are qualities that attracted this.my brother recently got engaged with an igbo girl and i told 1 of his friends(yoruba) who is'nt aware of it,he was like 'correct,ur bro get sense',i askd him y such comment and he xplains that igbo girls are very dedicated and helpful to their husband financially and does'nt lavish money unnecessary on material things like d yoruba girls,and he also gave me some other reasons like faithfulness to their relationship and so on.Whats ur view on this,cos it seems i might be going 4 igbo girls too."
Exactly what I told you. Some wise Yoruba guys go through all the stress and distance to marry Igbo girls because they see that they are far better than Yoruba girls.
Your link is even proving that Yoruba girls are more unfaithful in relationships. End of quote''
That? Is nothing but chestbeating most ibo are known for abeg. I don Tey for NL to know that. We all know people fall in love for love and not for any imaginary reason most ibo are known for/often claim claim Abeg oo..na only ibo ladies sabi how to manage money ni? Mba oo
It's not chest beating. Your link says it's a Yoruba man that said that. See the bold. You presented a link as evidence, now you are discrediting your own evidence. If I didn't know Yorubas, I'd think they were all as dumb as you.
Your evidence is proving me right. 'Igbo girls are far better than Yoruba girls.'
You call the above link "fact?" because FFK said it, it is "fact" to you?
Well here is what the link says: "The former minister has denied that his reference to “intimate relationship” implied “sexual relations”
Your link is continuing to support my position. The Igbo ladies had nothing sexual to do with him and definitely didn't marry him. They made a wise choice because he married three wives and talks a lot of rubbish like an average Yoruba man.
It seems like you just Google and post without reading.
Twistaray: Tonke is ibo and ibo is Tonke, i'm i'm very enlightened. Thanks to good
Tonto is Ikwerre and she is not polygamous and promiscuous in marriage like Yoruba women who marry Mr A and B but bear Children for Mr A,C and D.
Twistaray: Haaa lool You are just being emotional ma'am. So ikwere. Anioma people are not longer ibo? This is a fat lie oo Must you lie just to win an argument? Please don't nah..do you want me to prove u wrong? Dare me oo
And yes Tonko Dike is promiscuous and she's ibo.
Tonto Dike is Ikwerre...and Tonto Dike is NOT Polygamous/promiscuous in marriage because she has never been married nor had a child for anyone. Don't forget my initial statement which was referring to the two tribes' attitude to/in marriage.
Twistaray: Ofcos like I told you I had to admit that indeed influential and celebrities are naturally promiscuous and polygamy even in the united states ,among ibo tribes et al So what u saying..now tell me did bianca slept with fami or not? The joke is on u ma'am, you are as guilty as u accuse others,even more.
I have never seen any evidence that Bianca has ever met FFK. Can you provide evidence? If not, I will assume she has never met him.
Twistaray: Says who that yoruba dude ain't taken you ladies? I will continue to prove my points with fact not hearsays:
On the contrary, your link is proving me right. Here's what the poster said:
"Iv seen and knew some well educated yoruba men marrying igbo girls this days.im not against this but i thought there are qualities that attracted this.my brother recently got engaged with an igbo girl and i told 1 of his friends(yoruba) who is'nt aware of it,he was like 'correct,ur bro get sense',i askd him y such comment and he xplains that igbo girls are very dedicated and helpful to their husband financially and does'nt lavish money unnecessary on material things like d yoruba girls,and he also gave me some other reasons like faithfulness to their relationship and so on.Whats ur view on this,cos it seems i might be going 4 igbo girls too."
Exactly what I told you. Some wise Yoruba guys go through all the stress and distance to marry Igbo girls because they see that they are far better than Yoruba girls.
Your link is even proving that Yoruba girls are more unfaithful in relationships.
Twistaray: Google is your pal oo This is why I love facts cheii.. Just accept am Gbam! Infact try, come to lagos and u might be taken as well by another yoruba fine dude, trust your life will never remain the same. You don't need to wait for baba 40 ibo man nah
I shall continue to prove my points with facts unlike you. Heheheheh ask for more prove eh ehnnnoo
Up till now, you have only provided ONE Igbo girl that married Yoruba guy while I have provided TWELVE That married Igbo guys.
A faceless nairaland post can't be evidence that a marriage is holding...and your pic doesn't prove anything. It contains random pics of marriage ceremonies. I need verifiable names.
And just so you know...I am a guy and I live in Lagos. I've had Yoruba and Igbo girlfriends. I speak from experience.