Christianity Etc › Re: Atheist Are Too Overreliant On Science With Respect to Homosexuality. by jaephoenix(m): 10:16pm On Mar 04, 2023 |
Trollronaldo: it irritates me. And then they call you homophobic. Wtf.
It's not a norm here, don't blackmail people into accepting a western norm I expect an agnostic to have a certain level of intellect. Do you know homosexuality is rife in our society? Look at secondary schools and higher institutions and you'll know how these homosexuality is everywhere. The issue is acceptability. But whether it's acceptable or not, doesn't stop the trend. And it wasn't the white man that brought it here |
Christianity Etc › Re: Atheist Are Too Overreliant On Science With Respect to Homosexuality. by jaephoenix(m): 9:25pm On Mar 04, 2023 |
falcon01: My only concern with the LGBTQ+ alphabet gang is them forcing it on everybody, not even that but forcing it on little children who don't have an idea on how to grasp on the concept of Gender and Sexuality. A dude made an experiment and registered an account of 8-10 year old on YouTube kids and guess what The the suggested video was? It was filled with Homosexual stuff, Transecual stuffs, gender identity stuff, Drag shows and stuffs about accepting people for who they identify as with other lots of Bullshit. Wait let me look for a screenshot. Can you explain what 'forcing in on everybody' means? Do you agree Christianity is being forced on us by Christians? Do you see anyone shouting you down to become gay? Or preaching about it in radios? |
Christianity Etc › Re: Atheist Are Too Overreliant On Science With Respect to Homosexuality. by jaephoenix(m): 9:21pm On Mar 04, 2023*. Modified: 10:01pm On Mar 04, 2023 |
Trollronaldo: Please kindly note that, I am not a religious person, I am an agnostic but I also do no agree that every society should be blackmailed into accept the idea of homosexuality on the basis of science. I also do not think that science should be used in selling homosexuality.
Atheist have this exaggerated trust in the efficacy of the methods of natural science applied to all areas of investigation. It's a major observation that I have had while trying to discuss the issue of homosexuality with an average atheist because of cause, majority of the proponent of homosexuality are largely atheists. They have this impression that people usually talk down on homosexuality because of religion and that there's a scientific basis to propagate it. If you don't agree with their so called "science of homosexuality", they will blackmail you.
What makes one intelligent is the ability to understand the sharp difference between culture and science, Identifying bad science, bad culture, good science and good culture. Know how bad science can influence good culture and bad culture can influence good science and then work to create a society to works majorly with a combination of good culture and good science like Japan is doing. If you are over-reliant on science, you will blindly accept bad science. Yes, bad science exist.
Culture and science are two different things, science is a method used in understanding the natural world and solving critical problems in the society while culture is the way people live their lives. Don't make the mistake of thinking that science can be replaced with culture, science can only influence culture, culture remains culture.
The "science of homosexuality" has been able to influence the western culture in accepting homosexuality as a norm. It's normal if other societies do not think that the so called "science of homosexuality" would have any positive impact on their culture, hence its inappropriate to blackmail those societies like China, Russia, Japan, Middle East and most part of Africa who do not want to accept that culture. There's still no logical basis as to why they should accept it rather than "homosexuality is natural". Crossbreeding is also natural then why are you not having sex with chimpanzees?
Joepheonix LordReed Nlfpmod 1. Science is science. There's no good or bad science. Unless you don't understand it. And it is not being used to disseminate homosexuality. Homosexuals are amongst many socially oppressed groups which the Western world is trying to de-oppress. Other concepts they are trying to aid is women oppression, racism and religious oppression. These Western agenda, even though its not without partiallity is still okay by me. 2. There are actually many sex apart from 'males' XY and 'females' XX. There are intersex states, genital ambiguity etc. What would you call them? These people present in any morphological state, example, a 'female' that has a dick(I'm not talking about trannies here), 'females' with no uterus. They are not genetically females. These groups of 'freaks'(sorry to use this word but that is what the world calls them, even though I hate it) have aligned with LGBTQXXX(whatever). Now I am straight, I'm not gay or bi. Love me some pussy. I don't have issues with homosexual guys. We can be friends and I can employ them, as long as they keep their tendencies to themselves. I like lesbians tho. Beautiful creatures. My issues are with trannies. I feel they are cheats, especially those that engage in sports. A male that trannied into female trying to do women sport is just plain cheats. They should have their own categories. 3. Animals have homosexuality. I believe u know this. I hope you aren't amongst Nigerians that argue gay animals don't exist. 4. Sorry China doesn't have an anti-gay law 5. I also hope you're not amongst Nigerians that believe homosexuality is alien. Lol. The truth is homosexuality was normal here in some parts of Africa before the White man brought Christianity and told us its bad. Just as they are now telling us its good by wedding gay couples.  . African history is replete with examples of both erotic and nonerotic same-sex relationships. For example, the ancient cave paintings of the San people near Guruve in Zimbabwe depict two men engaged in some form of ritual sex. During precolonial times, the “mudoko dako,” or effeminate males among the Langi of northern Uganda were treated as women and could marry men. In Buganda, one of the largest traditional kingdoms in Uganda, it was an open secret that Kabaka (king) Mwanga II, who ruled in the latter half of the 19th century, was gay. 6. I have never threatened anyone to become homosexual and I have never seen any atheist threaten anyone to become gay. So stop the falsehood |
Christianity Etc › Re: The Eternal Synagogue Of The Civilized (atheist Movement) by jaephoenix(m): 8:32pm On Mar 04, 2023 |
Dtruthspeaker: Don't bother, you are already useless, There is nothing redeemable not repairable in you or on you, for you are already blind and deaf. … and this is the guy that said we should show evidence of yahweh's falsehood? Lol |
Christianity Etc › Re: The Eternal Synagogue Of The Civilized (atheist Movement) by jaephoenix(m): 8:29pm On Mar 04, 2023 |
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Christianity Etc › Re: The Eternal Synagogue Of The Civilized (atheist Movement) by jaephoenix(m): 8:27pm On Mar 04, 2023 |
FRANCISTOWN: Those are very repsected intelligent people you mentioned up there. I'm glad you are one of the people who have enough brain cells to understand that religion (All of them) is crap. Many will still go on to believe otherwise after having so much truth staring at them up in the face. Have you ever wondered when filling a bio-data form. The two main religion is Xtianity and Islam. Some have sense enough to add others. What does this mean? It means only Xtains and Muslims are recognised, the rest can kiss some a**es. Though it may be difficult, but thru the support of many others , one of our goals is to see to it that atheism is accepted in the society and to possibly have many buildings where people just meet and talk about the beauty of nature and how to help each other achieve goals and dreams Lol. I understand you but this noble venture may work, maybe 50 to 100 years from now, and not in the immediate future. Just by telling someone you're an atheist, you're public enemy number one. My wife(a nominal christian) begged me not to argue with Christians again. My former hospital director(a christian) during a post said it doesn't employ atheists and would fire any, not knowing I'm one. He doesn't mind Muslims. I left the place quietly after. The animosity and hate you'll cop would make your life unbearable. Further up north, they'll murder you real quick, for your troubles. In fact, when a Muslim extremist is to choose between killing an atheist or Christian, he'll go for the former first, before the later. So we're endangered species  |
Christianity Etc › Re: The Eternal Synagogue Of The Civilized (atheist Movement) by jaephoenix(m): 7:28pm On Mar 04, 2023 |
Aemmyjah: Who gives evidence to someone that loves ignorance? Lol. Your faith is based on ignorance, in the first place |
Christianity Etc › Re: The Eternal Synagogue Of The Civilized (atheist Movement) by jaephoenix(m): 7:26pm On Mar 04, 2023 |
Dtruthspeaker: I am not a liar, I said I will deactivate. I did not say that I would stop loving God.
But to show that God Wins all the time, I will up the stakes and say "I will become an atheists if there is anyone who can validly, reasonably and Truthfully counter my position."
So fire away it is all in record here.
You already know that I have defeated you severally in the past so you are tired of being beaten, so it is understandable why you sit in the audience. 
So call your bests. Let's see if they shall not lose. Hehehehe. This guy never fails to amuse me. |
Christianity Etc › Re: The Eternal Synagogue Of The Civilized (atheist Movement) by jaephoenix(m): 7:25pm On Mar 04, 2023 |
Dtruthspeaker: And yet none give any reasonable and valid counter in opposition.
I am willing to deactivate and let you people have your way and go silent if any of you give a reasonable, valid and true answer in opposition, within the laws of decent debate.
So you all can take your shots. There's no need. Even the ones we've been telling you here have been ignored by you |
Christianity Etc › Re: The Eternal Synagogue Of The Civilized (atheist Movement) by jaephoenix(m): 7:23pm On Mar 04, 2023 |
TheSourcerer: Thank you for your comment and it excites me to know you are free from the religious shackles I am not trying to be Negative at all I'm saying I'm done to an extent trying to 'Preach freedom" I have come to a conclusion Theists are physically unable to believe in the non existence of a God , maybe I am been negative or maybe I just don't care anymore which is very relaxing selfish but calming ,how is your day going though? I understand you perfectly. Many of them are perfectly incapable of logical reasoning. And some have been steeped in religion since birth. It would be cruel to yank them off it. One even told me he can't survive without god. I just smiled and let him be |
Christianity Etc › Re: The Eternal Synagogue Of The Civilized (atheist Movement) by jaephoenix(m): 7:20pm On Mar 04, 2023 |
Dtruthspeaker: God did not tell Abraham that If you pass my tests I will bless you. "No be everything dem dey tell pesin"'.
Yet you do not show the slave.
Ephesians 6:5-8 said servants and it is talking about normal employment and service. Of course you must be a devil to say that houseboys/girls, cleaners and personal assistants should disobey their bosses and employers.
Philemon 1:10-12 shows us that that was "Paul's own son "Onesimus" he said, not a slave. Philipians 1:12 did not say anything about slave.
So you see, you do not show anyone keeping a slave after God's commandments released them all.
https://www.nairaland.com/7554359/god-condemned-slavery-7-bible
"Out of the abundance of the heart the mouth speaketh"
"People seem not see that their opinion of the world is also a confession of character" Ralph Waldo Emerson. I bothered to look up that verse for you. Here are the versions. Choose any one you like 
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Christianity Etc › Re: The Eternal Synagogue Of The Civilized (atheist Movement) by jaephoenix(m): 7:11pm On Mar 04, 2023 |
Dtruthspeaker: That is the "God made some people to go out to preach and tell everyone." I said. If not God lovers would not tell anybody anything, so that you people can continue walking and doing as you like till you enter the whole of complete destruction. Maybe I need my eyes checked, but I was under the impression Jesus said 'go ye into the world'. He didn't say 'some of ye' I even read all the Bible versions. Same shit
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Christianity Etc › Re: The Eternal Synagogue Of The Civilized (atheist Movement) by jaephoenix(m): 7:06pm On Mar 04, 2023 |
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Christianity Etc › Re: The Eternal Synagogue Of The Civilized (atheist Movement) by jaephoenix(m): 7:05pm On Mar 04, 2023 |
FRANCISTOWN: You don't read your Bible, but don't worry we got you. Mark 16:15-16 And he said unto them, Go ye into all the world, and preach the gospel to every creature. 16 He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved..." The same in Matthew 28:19-20. Going up and down preaching is one of Jesus's primary assignment to his followers. Thank you! This dude isn't interested in Bible verses, don't you gerrit? He has his own truths spun on the go as he rolls on |
Christianity Etc › Re: The Eternal Synagogue Of The Civilized (atheist Movement) by jaephoenix(m): 7:04pm On Mar 04, 2023 |
Dtruthspeaker: Anyone who understands natural law would know that it is only a Person who was present at a particular time in view who gives a report in a present continuous tense.
And this is the correction. Biographies are written in 2 ways:
1) in present tense when it is written by the author himself eg "My Transition Hours by Goodluck Jonathan.
2) and in third party report speech in which the author always shows how he came about the information he gives, which shows that he was either present there or he was not there but was given the information by a person who was there eg see , "Goodluck Jonathan: The Making of a Statesman, written by Mr.Paul Nwankwo.
Then, we are bold to call you fool, for the nighttime in the village shows you how True that there is a light, even in the bush after the sun has departed.
But this is offpoint.
And you really think you are the first "i hate God" here. Error, all your brother's have raised all this arguments before and we destroyed them, that is why you do not see their rubbish threads again.
But again, all this is a departure from post!
We all know what a fall is, so your attempt to cover for them is useless.
And right now, you have proven you have nothing on this issue, so you have joined them in the fall and have lost.  1. Is the Bible written in present continuous term? 2. When someone writes his own biography, it becomes an autobiography. Maybe its a strange word, but its in the dictionary  |
Christianity Etc › Re: The Eternal Synagogue Of The Civilized (atheist Movement) by jaephoenix(m): 7:01pm On Mar 04, 2023 |
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Christianity Etc › Re: The Eternal Synagogue Of The Civilized (atheist Movement) by jaephoenix(m): 6:58pm On Mar 04, 2023 |
FRANCISTOWN: I do not understand this
God never told them that, you are helping God again by saying what he didn't say. .They still had slaves after the freedom, even Paul supported slavery in Eph 6:5-8, even Paul returned a runaway slave to the master in Phil 1:12
God even mentioned it in (Exo 20:10-17, Exodus 21:2-4, Deuteronomy 15:12). (Leviticus 25:39-46) Prolly you don't know some of us are even more grounded in the Bible.
After many many years of his support towards slavery, he later asked only Hebrew slaves to be freed in Jere 34
No1. Let's not get personal, trust me, you don't wanna travel this lane with me.
No2. You don't know me, you were too quick to conclude that my life is bitter (you are a "" like your fake daddy) . And just for the records. My life is not bitter. Till tomorrow I'm still as cute as 20 people joined together 
No3. I'm not being punished, Everything is working according to plan and I'm still as cool as ever . You just showed that truly your God is a task master. You are scared of being punished right? Sorry o. We(specifically LordReed and i)have pointed out this fact to him on 2 threads but like I stated earlier, DTruthSpeaker creates his own truths and realities, and doesn't give a fvck if it runs contrary to yahwehs scrapbook |
Christianity Etc › Re: The Eternal Synagogue Of The Civilized (atheist Movement) by jaephoenix(m): 6:55pm On Mar 04, 2023 |
FRANCISTOWN: Believe me sir, though I'm not where I want to be right now. But I'm making serious effort because I'm sure my life is in my hands. I do not believe anything is impossible. About 400 people have seen this thread. Just if, I mean, if just 4 people are liberated via this thread, we are satisfied. The four can go on to liberate other four, that makes it 4+16= 20. Now the 16 liberate 4 each , that makes it 4+(16×4) = 68. Do you get the geometric progression now sir? Wrong environment, and certainly wrong timing,bro. Critical reasoning is a taboo in this neck of the woods. Moreso, the capacity to reason that deep is even lacking, worsened by the religious fanaticity |
Christianity Etc › Re: The Eternal Synagogue Of The Civilized (atheist Movement) by jaephoenix(m): 6:49pm On Mar 04, 2023 |
TheSourcerer: I am actually very impressed by the calm collected and non insulting replies of the Atheist compared with the Theists comments with fools, sinner, hell, condemned, hate , evil damnation blah blah . I really commend the FreeThinkers very matured response all of em We're used to it. The only atheists that get offended by it are the fresh ones. Old heads like us swim in insults, in fact we bask on it. Try having any discourse with dudes like Elated177, Druthspeaker, Jesusjnr2020 etc and you'll have a year's worth of insults showered beautifully on you  I think the insults is a divergent for them to avoid logical and factual thinking |
Christianity Etc › Re: The Eternal Synagogue Of The Civilized (atheist Movement) by jaephoenix(m): 6:46pm On Mar 04, 2023 |
FRANCISTOWN: Anyone who understands "The rules of concord" would know that God definitely didn't write that. A third person subjective, objective, possessive and demonstrative pronouns(He, him, his, that) were used for God himself. It's just like how "biography" is written, you can't write your own biography (To the English liguists, I stand to be corrected). Without deviating from english language grammatical structure, this makes a whole lot of sense and I just sounded cool. However if you argued further that God wrote the books himself (which obviously he didn't) . Then we are bold to say God is a liar for creating light before the sun and the moon, and vegetations before the Sun which is common sensically impossible.
They didn't fall, they got busy and just decided to leave you. But I will not leave you alone, I will make you run out of this thread and all of my other threads in the future. People must be liberated You are one hell of a guy. This guy DTruthSpeaker doesn't abide by the laws of logic, science or truth. He creates his realities and truth as he chooses, even if they run afoul of his holy book  |
Christianity Etc › Re: The Eternal Synagogue Of The Civilized (atheist Movement) by jaephoenix(m): 6:43pm On Mar 04, 2023 |
Dtruthspeaker: And yet by the time of the judges, no single slave is seen in the land of Israel.
Remember this, that the enemy hath reproached, O Lord, and that the foolish people have blasphemed thy name.
Arise, O God, plead thine own cause: remember how the foolish man reproacheth thee daily.
Forget not the voice of thine enemies: the tumult of those that rise up against thee increaseth continually
Destroy thou them o Lord as they are grow in their enterprise. Let them never eat the fruits of their labour and let all their labour be in vain.
May they be broken in pieces by accidents and cut down by misfortune as they go out and come in.
May alll their long life be full of pain and sorrow with none to help them.
Let their habitation be desolate. Let evil be his habitation and let good be very far from his household. May it daily never be well for them and may their death be more painful than an earthworm killed with salt. 1. Oh there were, right up to the time of the Old Testament. Thus the reason Paul(purportedly) wrote to the Ephesians about slaves obeying their masters explicitly 2. I never knew quoting the Bible is such a painful thing for you, bro  Why should yahweh destroy me when I quoted what was in Ephesians and some other parts of the buybull  Oh Yahweh I await your rewards for quoting your words. Blessed be thy holy dick, now and forever more as you watch more naked women  |
Christianity Etc › Re: The Eternal Synagogue Of The Civilized (atheist Movement) by jaephoenix(m): 6:38pm On Mar 04, 2023 |
Dtruthspeaker: Panel beater is a representative of the creator of my car's body that is why he is called a panel beater, everyone knows that except you stupid fool.. My bad. I didn't know Kazeem my illiterate neighborhood panel beater is a rep for Toyota Inc, maker of my Forerunner. I apologize  |
Christianity Etc › Re: The Eternal Synagogue Of The Civilized (atheist Movement) by jaephoenix(m): 4:05pm On Mar 04, 2023 |
Dliquidmetal: its the ignorant arrogance for me everytime,they always do claim that they do know Religion isn't concerned with evidence,just an affirmation of faith no matter how ridiculous,baseless its claims are. Religion isn't meant to be based on evidence or data. Its meant to eschew such irrelevancies like facts, data etc and embrace nebulous concepts like soul, faith etc |
Christianity Etc › Re: The Eternal Synagogue Of The Civilized (atheist Movement) by jaephoenix(m): 4:03pm On Mar 04, 2023 |
Aemmyjah: Hold on to what endears you since you worship science
There's One who knows and has revealed it to us. The blind though they have eyes cannot see cos they don't want to see so they won't leave the darkness that covers their selfish works So in this post, where is your evidence? |
Christianity Etc › Re: The Eternal Synagogue Of The Civilized (atheist Movement) by jaephoenix(m): 4:02pm On Mar 04, 2023 |
Kobojunkie: E be like say your issue na lack of comprehension after all. 
I did not add that as it is instead indicated in that very verse which you quote from that God, who existed prior to the event ---- the beginning---, created what we know as Heaven and Earth. Go review your English comprehension notes abeg.  What does 'In the beginning' mean in plain English? |
Christianity Etc › Re: The Eternal Synagogue Of The Civilized (atheist Movement) by jaephoenix(m): 3:56pm On Mar 04, 2023 |
Dtruthspeaker: That is what semi atheists do. Christians would almost never preach to any devil because they know that the first point of convertion is for the devils to real eyes that the devil is slowly and fastly destroying them.
A look through the Bible shows that those who loved God did not go out telling anyone and it was because of this that God made some people to go out to preach and tell everyone.
So, all those running up and down preaching are not Christians, especially in these last days. They are atheists who are still trying not to tell the Truth to themselves that they are atheists and that they hate God. How does the bolded align with the restrictions of your post and the Great Commission Yahweh gave in your buybull? |
Christianity Etc › Re: The Eternal Synagogue Of The Civilized (atheist Movement) by jaephoenix(m): 3:53pm On Mar 04, 2023 |
TheSourcerer: hi hello , how's your day going ?  Please can I have a link to this post. That was a bull's-eye right there, especially amongst JWs |
Christianity Etc › Re: The Eternal Synagogue Of The Civilized (atheist Movement) by jaephoenix(m): 7:34pm On Mar 03, 2023 |
TheSourcerer: The Devil lol , I'm not offended I actually fancy the name lucifer or Satani I love theses names for some psycosexualfetish reason  I told him I'll soon s :Dtop interfacing with him if he insists on calling me devil or Satan. Its becoming boring. I told him I prefer more sophisticated names like bephomet or Beelzebub Sometimes I argue with him just to hear such nice pet names |
Christianity Etc › Re: The Eternal Synagogue Of The Civilized (atheist Movement) by jaephoenix(m): 7:16pm On Mar 03, 2023 |
Dtruthspeaker: You did hear me say the "creator or creators", so I am covered. Did the panel beater create your car body? |
Christianity Etc › Re: The Eternal Synagogue Of The Civilized (atheist Movement) by jaephoenix(m): 7:16pm On Mar 03, 2023 |
Dtruthspeaker: Because they were not wicked people
Letting them see for themselves that slavery is not a good thing, so that when He tells them to free slaves, they would understand.
And He was first to command that slaves should be freed, so you have nothing..You are just here to rant and complain because your life is very bitter, as God Said He would use to punish devils in the last days. So you are only confirming that indeed God has done it, as He Said. Yahweh said Hebrew slave should be freed in the seventh year1. Target word is Hebrew, and not the rest of the world. They can all burn(you included) as long as Yahweh is concerned 2. And he said they should be freed after they he enjoys watching them getting tortured for 6 years. It actually gives him so much hard on that he said slaves should obey their masters as they obey him(Yahweh). Now aint that something  |
Christianity Etc › Re: The Eternal Synagogue Of The Civilized (atheist Movement) by jaephoenix(m): 7:10pm On Mar 03, 2023 |
akwesenana: Francistown How did the world begin? When/how/will the world end? Is the world running on autopilot? cc thesourcerer We don't know. Do you? |
Christianity Etc › Re: The Eternal Synagogue Of The Civilized (atheist Movement) by jaephoenix(m): 7:09pm On Mar 03, 2023 |
Dtruthspeaker: Thank God you said the highlighted. For you not to find the Author, clearly shows you that it is God Himself Who Wrote it,
The record clearly shows that I did not say "In the begining of the creation of Adam", so, you have no thing!
And in the ones I dealt with, they all fell.
You are not the first, I know all. You mean Yahweh wrote the Bible? |