fuckingAyaya: when the music set even the devil will Japa and leave you go face the music alone,I know ur type of people. My ...... Said more than this before he saw what his mouth couldn't explain till tomorrow, I pray you don't experience urs in a brutal way so you will live to tell others that there's God when they make same ignorant statement. I wish you well🤞🏾
I keep on hearing this bullshit. When is your Yahweh gonna drag his fat ass outta bed and act? I have asked several Yahweh apologists to tell him to strike me dead with lightning. Yet, nothing has happened
HardMirror: Yeah I get you bro. Yes they offer gift. I mean avoid when the expectation is instant healing.
Imagine hearing that tb joshua will be visiting LUTH for example where there are thousands of people with varying illnesses. The primary expectation would be to get healed not to receive gifts. This is why they don't visit. They may send their members to give gifts but the leaders avoid such embarrassing situations because they are powerless.
Even the christians that visit too, try to water down expectations of healing.
How can I be suffering from brain tumour and u claim ur god is the great healer only for u to be giving me indomie as gift?
Paul in the buybull comes to mind. Remember the cripple was asking for money, and Paul healed him instead. The opposite is our reality now
kevoh: I disagree with you here. Actually some visit but not for the purpose of healing them as we both know their prayers are useless. Some Christian groups visit to offer gifts, provisions and other relief materials which in itself is not a bad thing.
So why not just heal the sick bugger and save them humongous hospital bills. The slapstick comedy part is where the pastor contributes money to pay for a member's surgery bill. Does it make sense? I still insist religion is for cretards
KnownUnknown: The junkie actually said he/she once was a patient at a mental hospital during a discussion about “demon possession”. Junkie said demon possession is real. I asked if the junkie had been possessed before. Junkie said yes. By Jesus. Lmao
He never replies my questions anymore but I’m glad Buda asked how exactly junkie is one of the perpetually lost sheep of Israel or of “blood of Jacob”. Apparently it’s because the god spoke to him. The leprechaun on my shoulder spoke to me too and said that “Junkie’s mental Illness has psychiatric problems”
Yup. Flying Spaghetti Monster, my Lord and Master, said the same to me. We are connected spiritually. Amen
budaatum: No, Jae, I do not "expect something logical". My discourse is simply to understand, logical or not.
[b]The Bible is not always logical [/b]but it can still be understood for what it is. How much more so anyone here, if one tried. I'd in fact claim that is what makes the Bible a very good book to practise the development of the mind to acquire understanding. Or don't you think so?
This explains the whole concept of religion. If anyone accepts religion with all its illogicalities, then where would it end? Look how Junkie is expanding his colorful imagination and saying all kinds of illogical shit, which many people would gobble up without blinking if it came outta an authoritative mouth(like a pastor etc). So where does the illogicality end? I can even add that lm also American, using Junkie's illogical logicallity
Kobojunkie: I didn't make the claims as instead it's contained right there in the books, right? As for who Israel is, it is the people, not the nation.
2. Why would you, after clearly reading what is written, think to ask me that? And how did you come to the conclusion that I am non-Israelite?
So I guess you're part of the Lost Tribes of Israel?
LordReed: According to Dtruthspeaker, here's a devil speaking:
Matthew 7 “Judge not, that you be not judged. 2 For with what judgment you judge, you will be judged; and with the measure you use, it will be measured back to you. 3 And why do you look at the speck in your brother’s eye, but do not consider the plank in your own eye?
LMAO!
Its not in his version of the bible. I told you guys he has his own
TenQ: No you didnt. When did God promise you jaephoenix anything? Since God didn't promise you anything with respect to life, your answer should be a simple Will it be WICKEDNESS for the Engineers who created Sophia the AI robot to turn off her power pack?
Secondly, when a person dies, is he in a state of annihilation?
I am actually looking forward to returning home whenever my time is up and I have completed my assignment hear on earth. It isn't within the preview of any man to know when it is his time to go except by suicide.
The Engineers of Sophia can readily bring her back to life even if they reduced her to her basic electronic and mechanical components. Don't you think so?
Good for you that you have not seen any such phenomenon that could help you make up your mind: why? Your mind is ALREADY made up AGAINST anything spiritual. You have built walls of arguments AGAINST such that reason beclouds you. It is your CHOICE bro! It cannot be forced!
I don't NEED to prove ANYTHING to you, it doesn't work that way. Each person based on the same pool of available information and experience has to convince HIMSELF of the reality of the Creator. Speaking about magic: Can you explain how the DNA of living things acquired enough information that controls everything about a living being. I asked you if a blank computer can suddenly boot up after several billion years without programmers imputing bot systems softwares and application programs into it. You said, NO! But here you are. An intelligent star dust.
IS THIS NOT A MIRACLE?
Since the laws of nature came forth only after the BIG BANG, you and I have no non-natural means of comprehending WHERE or HOW the Uncaused First Cause of Everything came from. How can Sophia explain how a headache feels like? LOL!
Is it TRUE that you believe in FSM?
Like scientists have been able to measure INFINITY! Can you please remind me of its value in kilometers?
So these words are in the Bible? Please teach me!
If you know a tiny bit of Object Oriented Programing and Computer Systems, you will understand that Microcontroller powered devices and microcontroller powered devices are just imitations of living being.
If Christians have ever explained that their God is made of materials, you would have had a strong argument. But God is a Spirit!.
1. I didn't say yahweh promised me. I meant his own people, christians. As you know, they die as easily as the 'heathens' 2. So dodged where I stated christians fast and pray against 'going home' and also get sad when their loved ones 'go home'. So what is enjoyable about it Sophia engineers can bring her back to life. Can yahweh do such? No. Only place he does it is in your mythical bible, not in real life 3. So if one's mind is made up against the spiritual, he doesn't get any spiritual encounter? So why do your fellow christians warn me that one day I'll meet some spiritual entities like demons, ghosts etc and they'll harm me 4. I have told you I dont know. Tell me where is the source of live in that DNA? And your evidence for it
5. It does not matter if I believe in the FSM. People do believe in it. So don't discard it
6. So are you saying these are false attributes of your yahweh? Yes or no?
Nigerians are the daftest creatures ever liveth. Poverty befalls every man, whether Nigerian, American, Indian. In fact richer people than him have fallen from grace to grass. Happened to Mc Hammer, Mike Tyson(before), Michael Jackson etc. It simply means financial outflow has passed inflow. Its not village people. In this guy's case, he has many wives and he lived an extravagant lifestyle. Why won't his fortunes dwindle?
TenQ: 1. I aske you a question which you ignored: Will it be WICKEDNESS for the Engineers who created Sophia the AI robot to turn off her power pack? 2. Is death the same as annihilation according to the little Christian Religious knowledge you have? Isn't death a call back home?
3. If you don't understand the Wave-Particle Duality of Matter, it is not the scientists' fault you're dense. Read up 4. Yes, ANYTHING that cannot be QUANTIFIED doesn't exist(for now) because if you insist it exists, then the burden of proof is in you(or any positor or scientist. Also you said you won't believe me until you experience the phenomenon. Which is good. So I want to experience such 'supernatural'. Simple
5. Like I said, big bang (and other theories) explained how the universe came about.
What about if I don't understand the Wave-Particle Duality of Matter and I insist that particles CANNOT perform Interference, does it change the reality of the W-P Duality of Matter?
Same with Trinity dear!
Are you saying that ANYTHING that cannot be QUANTIFIED doesn't exist?
Of course, I cannot believe you UNTIL I experience it myself or learn from Trusted Sources. Quantum physics is like that. A particle tunneling through a higher barrier potential. It is best experienced by self OR rely upon the Testimony of those who are Qualified.
Too many things I believe without my own personal experience. Mass of electron, E=mc2, W-P duality of matter etc, I rely both on reason and knowledgeable testimony of experts.
I don't just take a position of REJECTION and DENIAL like Atheists for things they don't understand.
LOL! You are perfectly SURE and CERTAIN that there is 1. No other dimensions in the universe other than the physical 2. Everything spontaneously came out of NOTHING (this is a miracle) .
Of course I know that FSM doesn't exist because it is a creation of Atheists to mock especially the God of Christians.
I did sir
1. The law of entropy show that the Entropy of the Universe is Increasing. Tracing it backward in time, the origin is where Entropy is minimum. Hence the Universe has a begining 2. The Big Bang/Inflation theory projects that the Universe is about 13.8billion years ago. Hence, the universe has a beginning 3. If the Universe can be proved to one day in the future come to an end where all energies are evenly dispersed, it is another proof that the Universe has not always existed. 4. ALL physical laws of Physics and Chemistry have their origin with the spontaneous creation of space, time and matter about 13.8billion years ago
If I have convinced you that the Universe has an origin, it can only mean that the FORCE that brought forth the Universe is EXTERNAL to the Laws of Nature. Do you agree or disagree with this?
Even atheists cannot tell us a factual characteristic of the FSM. It is a mock god
I should ask you. No Christian has called his Creator Material! You are the ones asking that God be presented to you in a material form isn't it.
The ball is in your court
But you expect that life came out of INORGANIC elements. How did the programming of life and it's attendant organic systems came into being?
1. Obviously you can't read. Because I clearly answered that question when I said if the Engineer promised the robot that its life is important to him, he can't terminate it at his whim. There's a promise involved. Also humans aint AI. We breathe and we have 'spirits' according to you guys 2. If death is a call back home, why haven't you gone back home? Would you like to be called back home with my shotgun? Besides, don't you people constantly fast and pray, even pay tithe against the 'spirit of death' everyday? So why are you guys afraid of this 'Going home'? 3. You said you cannot believe my UNTIL you experience yourself or learn from 'Trusted Sources'. Which is right. So why should I be begrudged for not believing the supernatural without an experience? I have been an atheist for close to 20 years, yet haven't seen any such phenomenon.
4. If you insist there are other spiritual dimensions, you need to prove it. If you cannot prove it, why should I believe you? I insist they don't exist (til they they are proven). Big bang and other theories attempt to explain how the universe came about. Your creationism says magic was involved, and it was by a sky daddy. So where did the sky daddy come from? Didn't he come from nothing? What if I insist the FSM insists, and it has a holy book?
5. So lets assume that the FORCE that brought forth the Universe is EXTERNAL to the Laws of Nature. Where did it come from? Yahweh? Thor? Obatala? Chukwu?
Aemmyjah: Like a mannequin trying to comprehend everything about his Makers background or a robot? OR a clay vessel dismissing the existence of his Potter cos his background is too wonderful for him to understand?
You're a fool
There are many mysteries in creation that man don't know but you want to judge the creator cos you don't know his background. Old ape
If you say so. So as a fellow mannequin like me that have limited reasoning , how did you comprehend A) that such a god exists B) the attributes of such a god
I knew this fake news would eventually find its way to Nairaland. 1. I scoured the internet for the offending video that dumbo (the people ridiculing jesus), was talking about. Turned out it was a play about the crucifixion of Jesus. *And it wasn't in a carnival. And not just that, or happened on March, 2019, 4 odd years ago.* 2. The person acting as devil is still alive and kicking(as of today 13/03/2023) 3. Even if the story was true, why would Yahweh be mad in a play that is made with unreal forks, when there are many movies of Jesus taunted and abused. Flogged, thrashed etc. Besides, didn't it happen in the bible. Weren't they re playing what was written there? Logical reasoning is huge problem for folks. The way people avoid it makes it look like its illegal 4. Why would Yahweh also be mad when Africans do more 'devil' worship with al sorts of gods etc
I realized christianity (and religion as a whole) don't give a Bleep about reality or truth, but as eveidenced by the sheer number of Whatsapp forwards, and viewership of this video on Tiktok, Youtube, the sheer number of cretards is mind-boggling. No one bothered to verify the video or events. Just swallow whatever you're fed, hook, line and sinker, by people that want to perpetuate the lie called religion
TenQ: When did God make any promise to you that you are His. The bible says the Lord knows those who are His..
Is the Wave-Particle Duality of matter Illogical?
You won't believe non physical evidence anyways? What's the point?
But you are sure God didn't make anything and neither does He exist.
Read again: I gave you scientific proofs
You should at least have a better or more plausible explanation. I've given you my explanations. Over to you please!
You are the one to decide on how to measure the Creator if He is Immaterial, timeless and Eternal
It is a lame excuse to avoid being boxed in a corner. Please respond to the question
1. These are examples where he promised quality life You shall serve the Lord your God, and he will bless your bread and your water, and I will take sickness away from among you. Exodus 23:25 ESV
Behold, I will bring to it health and healing, and I will heal them and reveal to them abundance of prosperity and security. Jeremiah 33:6 ESV Even those who are his are getting annihilated by yahweh, so what's the use believing in him?
2. The wave-particle duality of light is logical and was finally figured out when physicists began studying the photoelectric effect. Understanding this duality allowed an understanding of the effect, to the point that today solar power (using photoelectric cells) is a growing part of the world energy supply. Lasers, microscopes, microelectronics, medicine, and a host of other applications rely on our complete understanding of how light functions. Light as a wave moves at light speed, while particles of light carry momentum. Someday, gigantic solar sails may catch the momentum of photons and carry travelers to distant stars.
3. From what you posted here, you have an idea of science. Imagine I tell you that I live in Mars, and in fact, I fly to Earth on a daily basis, would you believe me implicitly or ask for evidence? But you want to present a 'fact' that hasn't been confirmed neither by you or anyone. If science works that way, there won't be Invention, just speculations
4. Yes I'm so sure he doesn't exist or create anything. Lemme ask you. Do you believe the Flying Spaghetti Monster(FSM) exists, or He created anything? Yes or no.
5. You didn't give any scientific proof the universe has a beginning
6. So you don't believe the FSM existed, so what's the use embarking on this discourse?
7. Since you know, you assumed you have measured him/her/they/it. So how did you go about it?
Image123: Stampede lewag3 all you want, your opinion about a professing Christian has no weight before his Master. Know this and know peace for once in a long time.
Mr. Stampede, have you been following this thread?
Image123: What is with this joke you are making, harassing someone to declare another person as a non-Christian? It's not a Christian job to go around determining non-Christians. Leave them to their Judge. All a Christian can do is warn and correct. Your(a human) validation or otherwise of true Christianity is as useless as the p in psychology.
He brought it to himself. Nobody forced him to make that declaration. I'm sure you read all that but kept mute, then jumped in to mouth off
Lawag3: I don't get to make that call infact why do you want me to say his not a Christian.
You yourself said people that behave like him aint christians. So why don't you tell him to his face? You're not afraid to call gays sinful but you're afraid to tell DTruthSpeaker the needful. Aint that hypocrisy?
Dtruthspeaker: Children do not belong to parents, we are all God's Property. So I raise all my children to be free to make whatever decision they think and carry the consequences of their actions.
People never learn by counsel but by bad experience and life has plenty of bad experience so, it is a great teacher.
So I am doing like God, after I talk, I watch from afar! And I laugh at them when they fail or praise them when they do well, which they now know and understand that it is their own life and death, good and evil, and that whatever happens to them will not and does not affect me.
If thou art wise it for thine own self and if thou art foolish, only you alone will suffer it.
Now you see what God has done and why I am free to judge. A thief cannot condemn a thief. A devil can not condemn a devil. An unrighteous can not condemn the unrighteous.
A Judge guilty of sin cannot condemn a criminal which is why there is no justice in world. But God is not guilty of any sin therefore His Condemnation is Powerful.
And all the guilty quake before Him.
So all the devils are just complaining because I remind them of how it's going to be be when God Judges them.
If I have to insult you, it means you did not want Christ before and you are not going to want Him now because I have spoken.
And secondly, evil has grown to the madness we see everyday because those who should condemn it have become guilty themselves therefore, they can not speak against it.
So even if I am the only man like Noah was, I will remove my hands from evil so that I can continue to condemn all workers of iniquity and promoters of evil.
Therefore all ye haters of God, men fuc.king men, women fuc.king women, adulterers, who.rechasers, prostitutes, tattooers, thieves, liars, blasphemers, murderers, deserve to be burnt while living!
Lawag3: Jesus did not explicitly talk about silencing people but his character shows he wouldn't take away people right to free speech how do I know that Jesus paid tax knowing that that's what he is supposed to do as the Jews were under Rome . Give to Caesar what belongs to Caesar.
On Dtruthspeaker I won't have come to Christ if I knew someone like him. He's the kind of person I pray should not get a child that turns out to be contrary to what he wants him to be because he might just chase the child away or worst still kill him. The reason why I don't condemned homosexuals themselves is that I used to be like them my identity was wrapped around my sexual organ. My mom was religious but she had Christ. So thankfully she approached me telling me I could be so much better I was always in her prayers. But she wasn't the one who lead me to Christ there was this pastor and his wife the love that always radiates out of them towards people like me drew me to Christ. People who knew me always stayed away from me like I was a devil and I liked that I didn't what to hear their nonsense . To cut the long story short my mom told them about me the way they handled the situation made me open up for the very first time in years look where I am now . Thank God I didn't meet Dtruthspeaker he would have given me the wrong idea about Christians who knows how many people he had chased away.
Insulting the way he does Is a thing of the flesh if he is struggling with that because everyone has his or her on struggles Christian or not I pray he receives strength to win in that his struggle.
Bro, you're beating around the bush WHEN ARE YOU GOING TO TELL DTRUTHSPEAKER HE'S NOT A CHRISTIAN? Quote him, and tell him that. Simples
Lawag3: He doesn't repent of his action. he changes his mind, when he wants to punish you, your actions can make him change his mind same if he wants to bless you.
These are verses where yahweh changed his mind. Hes as fickle as a ficklesome fick
1 Samuel 15:11 “I regret that I have made Saul king, for he has turned back from following Me and has not carried out My commands.” And Samuel was distressed and cried out to the Lord all night
Genesis 6:7 The Lord said, “I will blot out man whom I have created from the face of the land, from man to animals to creeping things and to birds of the sky; for I am sorry that I have made them
Genesis 6:6 The Lord was sorry that He had made man on the earth, and He was grieved in His heart
By the way, how can an omniscient god change his mind? Doesnt he know the outcomes of events before they happened?
Lawag3: They can come to my church and talk about their struggles we have people who will help them. Jesus told us to bring sinners to repentance, how do we bring homosexuals to repent if we don't tell them that what they do is wrong?
Would you allow a Muslim to preach in your church? Its a yes or no question, please
MaxInDHouse: From what happened to Job we know the real person behind the order for Abraham to kill his only son. Satan is accusing Abraham of being faithful simply because he now has what he wants (descendant) so just as Satan told God to test Job's loyalty Abraham was called out too by the same accuser who has been accusing all faithful people before God! Revelations 12 :10 If you're reading the Bible like a story book you can never figure out these facts unless you read carefully, study diligently, meditate thoroughly and pray fervently otherwise you'll continue to complicate the whole thing. Proverbs 2:1-6
So it's the same Satan who is behind all those accusations just as he did with Job God must not shield anyone after all we have all sinned and fallen short of God's glory therefore we must prove we are different from Adam who was selfish and self-centered in his attempt to alienate himself from God.
Well your outlook differs from mine because as a father i must allow my son to undergo the surgery that will restore him to perfect health if that's what it will take to do so. Allowing my child to undergo such pain which will fortify him to be stronger than he is presently is an act of love towards him!
NO! never! He is all loving, merciful and patient! Psalms 103:12-14
Yet he drowned millions of people just for being sinful, without a chance of forgiveness
Christianity Etc › Re: Brazil's Satanic Carnival That Mock Jesus And Gods Responds To Them by jaephoenix(m): 8:52am On Mar 15, 2023
