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dalass:
Biology and agriculture science are part of science. In agriculture for example, how does a goat or pig business become profitable? You get male and female to breed offsprings!

The so called new age stuff wants to turn everything on its head!

You see someone who is female say call me pronouns like they, them and not "she, her"

It is even so unnatural and quite disgusting to see a man and a man, or a woman and a woman cuddling, having sex with themselves. Many of those idiots initiate little ones from very young ages. So it isn't natural, it is careful programming and nuturing impressionable kids to these unbecoming silly lifestyle and then they say it is natural! For where?

1. What do you understand by 'natural'?
2. We're not talking about 'trans personalities' here, but homosexuality. See the difference?

LordReed:
I have expressed the same thought. I used to naively think Christians were not prone to becoming extremists but I have been thoroughly dissuaded.

Oh, they abound. Check out christian terrorists. They kill Muslims and perceived enemies. And the media is kinda sympathetic to their cause

Trollronaldo:
lol. You don't know what you are talking about

Actually youre the one that's clueless

DeusXmachina:
It's not impossible to be agnostic and still have bigotry, but I'm questioning what path he went through to arrive at his agnosticism, that didn't work for him to examine his homophobia.

But I was referring to Dtruthspeaker, I remember him being a fundamentalist christian, but now he's so far down the rabbit hole, he's parroting "how to genocide 101".
I won't be surprised if he starts his own terror organization anytime now, with the way he's sounding like shekau.

Christian terrorist organizations exists.
Check them out.
https://www.salon.com/2015/04/07/6_modern_day_christian_terrorist_groups_our_media_conveniently_ignores_partner/
Our dear DTruthSpeaker may be in a sleeper cell.
I used to have my pic on my Nairaland profile, but I had to take it down when I became much more active, cos of folks like him

Xxxxtentacion2:
Oga its not the environment that turned them into gays, they were always gays its just that they can't express themselves that much in Nigeria...
If you carry 10 straight kids and put them in the UK after five years they will still be straight...
They is nothing in the UK that turns people into gays its just that they encourage people to express themselves more...
What percentage of UK population is gay if you know...

Dude just pulls out evidence and data from his ass and drops it on our laps

Trollronaldo:
this guy, you really Have a low IQ.
That's not how it works, you work with large sample size.

Your reasoning should be, if you place 1000 children in U.K and Nigeria, which of the two groups will probably become more queer in another 10 years.

Of course, it's common sense, more of the 1000 children in United Kingdom will likely become quer because there is an environment for it there unlike Nigeria. It doesn't mean that all 1000 will be queer.

Reason na

Are you aware that about 90% of 'queers' in Nigeria, don't come out of the closet, and probably wouldn't ever? For obvious reasons

Trollronaldo:
it's a stupid question.
Its like asking me what environmental factor influences drug addiction.

Of course, majority of drug addicts where not born to be drug addicts, they were introduced to it by people in their environment. Many homosexuals were not born queer, they were introduced to the act by people in their environment.

The question doesn't make sense.

You're comparing homosexuality with drug addiction? Like seriously?

Trollronaldo:
homosexual exist but will not fester if not legalize.
By doing this, you will reduce and manage the spread. That's why it has a genetic undertone but the spread is adide by environmental factors. These are simple terms that are not hard to grasp.
If you don't create an e environment for it, it won't spread fast.

You cannot compare the prevalence of homosexuality in a society where its legal and another where it's not.

It's common sense.

In other words, if homo is banned, the spread is reduced. Is that what you're saying?

Trollronaldo:
What kind of question is this? 😂😂😂

Answer the question. Just humor us

Trollronaldo:
I am not comparing smoking to homosexuality, I am trying to let you see that it not a disorder per se, it's has to do with influence like smoking. That's environmental factors

I am not saying it's a disorder. I am saying that it can cause social disorder and its psychologically influenced.
Smoking is not a disorder but it ca be influenced.
This is your post where you compared it to smoking. Be stable so we know how to handle your case

Trollronaldo:
I am not saying it's a disorder. I am saying that it can cause social disorder and its psychologically influenced.
Smoking is not a disorder but it ca be influenced.

You have been screaming psychological disorder for 10 pages now. And I have been asking which psychological disorder, but you seem to be deaf about it

Trollronaldo:
Is that not the essence of a our discussion?

If you don't allow it to fester in your society, you will reduce the environmental influence, thereby reducing the health and social problems that comes with it. You can do it by making homosexuality strictly a genetic or psychological issue and that it has to be treated as such

Lol. Gays aint mentally ill. You need to get a grip on reality, bro

Trollronaldo:
I just it should be treated as a genetic disorder if confirmed and a psychologically disorder if not genetic. Because it's what it is.

It's not normal.

Its neither of the 2.
In the ICD 10, there is no pathology known as homosexuality. And those researches you hurriedly dropped here are not accepted into the medical community because it is in research stage, and hasn't been double checked. Always read your articles to the end before dropping it here

Trollronaldo:
a gay is a male Homosexual.

A lesbian is a female homosexual

A lesbian is not a gay

Read up here
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gay

Trollronaldo:
another gene on the human X chromosome with Xq28 (green) located at the tip of the long arm of the chromosome. Studies of the X chromosome as well as the entire human genome have linked Xq28 to the heredity of homosexuality in human males.

Please kindly research carefully before replying me

Did you finish reading up these researches and digest them, before you hurriedly post them here?

Trollronaldo:
nonsense, you can.
2/3 of gay spread is caused by environmental factors.
More people are likely to be gay in an environmental where homosexuality is legal.

Have you seen someone that was gay, yet he or she had no gay influence? How did s/he get 'gayed'?

Trollronaldo:
there's genetic undertone to some aspect of homosexuality with respect to hormonal disruption.
A gene named SLITRK6 on chromosome 13 was identified. The research supports another study which had been done by the neuroscientist Simon LeVay. LeVay's research suggested that the hypothalamus of gay men is different from straight men. The SLITRK6 is active in the mid-brain where the hypothalamus is.

However, a substantial amount of queer were influenced, it is this aspect that I have a problem with

In terms of the new results, there's bound to be a lot of interest in the study, but the researchers are eager to emphasise their findings are largely speculative for now, since there's still a lot we don't know about what these genetic variations really mean.

There's also the relatively small size and skewed European basis of the sample – not to mention the fact that it's all men – which limit what it can tell us about genetic underpinnings to sexual orientation more broadly across race and sex lines
Im surprised at this post, because these researches aren't yet double-blinded, and thus can't be stated as scientifically binding.
As for now, there is no stand-alone gay gene

Trollronaldo:
take a breath and study global dollar hegemony and then come back

He who pays the piper, dictates the tune. If your economy is so strong that it controls the world, then it means you are doing something right, aint it?

Trollronaldo:
go and ask ancient Africans. I already highlighted all the contemporary risks

Out of all the risks you stated, none holds water. Anal sex which is the main transmission route of HPV(which is the culprit for anal warts) which causes rectal carcinomas, is also practiced by heterosexuals.

Trollronaldo:
read this study, I don know why simple stuffs like this are difficult for you to research.

Please before you move the goalpost again, kindly note that I don't have an issue with the genetical aspect of homosexuality, what I have issues with is the influence an homosexual-based environment can have on some straight people which is the core of all the social and health issue I have been discussing. The environmental influence aspect is the core tool with whcuh homosexuality is been driven and sold to others.

https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2008/06/080628205430.htm

There is no single gene responsible for a person being gay or a lesbian.

That's the first thing you need to know about the largest genetic investigation of sexuality ever, which was published Thursday in Science. The study of nearly a half million people closes the door on the debate around the existence of a so-called "gay gene."

In its stead, the report finds that human DNA cannot predict who is gay or heterosexual. Sexuality cannot be pinned down by biology, psychology or life experiences, this study and others show, because human sexual attraction is decided by all these factors.

"This is not a first study exploring the genetics of same-sex behavior, but the previous studies were small and underpowered," Andrea Ganna, the study's co-author and genetics research fellow at the Broad Institute and Mass General Hospital, said in a press briefing on Wednesday. "Just to give you a sense of the scale of [our] data, this is approximately 100 times bigger than any previous study on this topic."

https://science.sciencemag.org/cgi/doi/10.1126/science.aat7693

These things you posted are just theoretical. Science is still stumped on homosexuality

Trollronaldo:
the analogy is weak, very weak with respect to whether immunodeficiency and insanity can form a societal structure whereby such character can be influenced on others.

you will still shift the goalpost.
Two factors drives homosexuality, much of it are environmental factors that influence People and a handful is genetic.

Homosexuality isn't genetical. And it isn't a pathological
To be honest, nobody understands it perfectly

Trollronaldo:
you are just pandering from one goalpost to another.

This is my point, homosexuality creates new public health, social behavior and long term social structure challenges.
Is it true? If yes.
Does the benefit outweigh the risks?

I don't know how all these immunology and mental illness of a thins equates to the dangers of homosexuality in the society and how homosexuality can be learned and influenced on people.

I don't like people not staying in line.

People can be influenced to become gays and even sometimes raped. If I bring further journals to validate this now, you will move the goalpost again

You can't be influenced to be gay, if you hadn't been curious about it. If I get groped by a guy, do you think I can turn gay, just like that? Putting my own finger in my ass pains me, and you think a grown ass dick there would be welcome

Dtruthspeaker:
Killing without provocation is unlawful but I know that atheists must do an evil or the best one is to wait for them to do many of their evils and then one day, as they finish doing another evil, you catch them and take them to a right doing Court and present all their crimes before it so that we would see if they can validly defend reasonably themselves (which of Course, God has Set it that the wicked can never be justified Exodus 23:7), therefore, they must be found guilty by The Righteous Court like the people in court (commenters in this thread) have said.
httpss://www.nairaland.com/5090059/notorious-armed-robbers-apprehended-after#76842471

And therefore, the Court Bailiffs and Judgement Enforcers wiill take them and kill them for us. o what a sweet day!

If you seek help, you'll be cured. If not you'll end up a psychopathic killer

Trollronaldo:
what type of goalpost shifting is this?

Your analogy doesn't make any sense to me

Its not goalpost shift. He's giving analogy and explained anyone can be a rapist

Trollronaldo:
I think so, there so many disadvantages of making homosexuality legal which is even currently playing out in the western world.

Personally, aside my general points, I have had bad experiences with gays. A lot of them do not take a no for answer. Here in Nigeria, while I was living in Nomalinda estate in Enugu, there was this group of gays living in the estate. They had connections with top government officials in Enugu state and they were members of house on the Rock church. They engaged in the practice of raping men and getting away with it. I was almost a victim.
Although, we can argue that this also happens between heterosexuals, but that's an issue already that we trying to address, we cannot broaden the scope again into homosexuality. These guys engage in the act of drugging their victims and then rapping them. I almost feel for it, I became friends with one of them without knowing what they do, I didn't know they were gay. I started going to his house and he kept on insisting that we go to club with his friends, but I wasn't this outgoing person and I was always tired after getting back from work. Not until one day I got back from work, I didn't have fuel in my generator, I went to his apartment to charge my phone, I was tired so I slept off. In the night, this guy started caressing me private part, I woke up and he wanted to force me into it, I overpowered him and push him to the wall before demanding that he opens the door or I will kill him here after picking up a rod in his sitting room.
He opened the door and I left, in the morning, he wanted to have a conversation about it, he stated telling me things about love. I walked to his apartment and made it clear to him that hif he discusses that with me again, I will kill him or get him jailed.

He relocated soon after to Abuja, he was running from a particular rape issue he committed with his gang. Although they had connection with top government officials, but this victim was also connected, so this case was a handful for them. It was after he relocated that I started hearing all these gist and even the police visited out estate because of this.


Read plenty story about psychopath gays who are specialized in raping and kill teenage boys. This exactly what these guys were turning into.

My problem is that, these guys can influence others. I wont have issues with it if they cannot. A big story is that l, homosexuality can cause plenty community health issues, increase social entropy and disorient communal interaction.

I know what I am saying, Its not the first time I have had bad experiences with gays. This is not to say that all gays are bad, but many of them can be and will not take a no for an answer. They will rape you.

You committed so many fallacies here, but I'll oblige you.
1. If this was committed by a straight guy, and it was a lady lamenting like this. Would it be acceptable?
A white guy had this issue with a black gay rapist. He termed blacks menace to society and proceeded to wipe out as many as he could. Do you see the correlation?
Truth is this. Straight or black can be rapists. Some gays aren't rapists. They won't even handle you unless you acquiese(my exgf had a gay room mate, who wanted to handle her boobs, but she shouted her down, and she never attempted it)

TheSourcerer:
I have figured this is my longest talk about homosexuality meaning I had my ideas on ignorance and therefore fear of the unknown, and as this is logically noted I will learn to accept the gay people both within about my being again Thank you Lord

And one more thing…
Please don't be gay

Trollronaldo:
you did partially.

My argument is that: Homosexuality is more of a matter of culture than biological because it can be learned, hence its okay if some societies don't think this culture will be beneficial to them. However, the risk of homosexuality culture greatly outweighs the benefits when looked at from a broader spectrum.

What was the risks being experienced by Ancient Africans

DeusXmachina:
He's been spewing literal textbook genocidal rhetoric for a while now.
I don't have the energy to engage him on it, as he's denser than a rock.

I'm wondering how he even became agnostic. Could be a crack in the matrix

Trollronaldo:
HIV was first tested in Gays

Lol. Dead wrong. Read again. It was tested in African natives who were very much heterosexuals

Trollronaldo:
homosexuality is a psychological/genetic disorder as far as I am concerned

You're acting exactly like a theist. Stick your head in sand, stick your ass up. Ignore the world

Trollronaldo:
I see you have a poor understanding of how global economics works hence you will understand what US sanctions really means

Las las, na dia money. Not yours. Since you call them wasted, then what are you doing with their money. Go to another religious country and ask for aid

Trollronaldo:
So what?
If they have always existed then they should fester and Casue social disorder?
You people are jusy following silly bandwagon

How are they causing social disorder?