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Trollronaldo:
appealing to authority.
Africa was not majority gay. That's a lie, you know this

Lol. If that is an appealing to authority fallacy then you're 10x more guilty. You have been posting links, articles and screenshots here. Stop changing the goalposts.
Showing facts is not appeal to authority
I never said Africa was majorly gay. I say it was accepted not major. Even in the western world, gays aren't majority. Not even up to 50%, but its accepted

Trollronaldo:
nope, they are not. Why did you ask?

Huh, lesbians aint gay?
You well so?

Trollronaldo:
2. By sanctioning countries who won't accept it

Sanction means withholding their own money, right?
Is it your money? Their constitutions says everyone should be equal, irrespective of orientation, race, religion, creed etc. And thus anybody they wanna help should adopt that mantra, if you don't want to, no problem. But don't expect any help from them. Countries have such laws. Nigeria has its. US/UK has theirs.
Savvy?

Trollronaldo:
nope, their point is to make it a culture as they have made it there. They are doing it subtly.

They didn't tell you to be gay. They simply say 'accept gays like every human' which by the way, is what the Christian buybull said.
Why are y'all having nightmares about it?

Trollronaldo:
yes I do. I don't have irrational dislike for homosexuality. My reasons are very rational

Ok. No problem

Dtruthspeaker:
O your lucid moment is over and your madness returns. It is only news they use for disseminating information. I understand, mad man has forgotten that there is something called movies, entertainment news, social media etc.

Satan is very desperate!

Movies, social media can all be censored. If you are watching porn, can you say you were forced? Stop using others to justify your perversion

Trollronaldo:
point fo where I said they do force Africans.

Go through this thread carefully

You said they blackmail Africans, didn't you?

Trollronaldo:
it's not in our culture here to practice homosexuality now. Simple and short.
yes, still doesn't mean it's okay to do it.
not really, maybe if you give me the list of all the benefits that homosexuality will bring to our society, I will change my mind that you are not subconsciously buying it from the west.
The problem increase many folds with homosexuality. Especially, MSM. Why is this so difficult to understand?

Go and read all my replies to LordReed on this thread, I already elaborated on that

I have read your depositions. And made my views.
You slyly ignored lesbians in your homosexual narratives. Less infections unlike their female-male counterparts

falcon01:
By systematically recommending queer videos, Transgender, Hender fluid stuff and other LgBt alphabet stuff for young kids like this.

Good. Glad you used 'recommending'. You can decline the recommendations, right? Simply, tune them out via settings, and you're good

Dtruthspeaker:
It is entertaining to see one set of the children of devils fighting against their other siblings over the doing of a certain evil.

Same way its entertaining when you fight with Max

falcon01:
yes I do! I know some gay people and we get along just fine I'm talking about kids Damn it! The sh*t been forced on kids who lack the basic Knowledge of How sexuality and Gender works! They grow and become messed up.

It seems we have a misunderstanding of what 'forced' means.
For the avoidance of doubt, this is the definition
obtained or imposed by coercion or physical power.
"there was no sign of a forced entry"
Similar:
enforced
compulsory
obligatory
mandatory
involuntary
exacted
coerced
imposed
demanded
compelled
required
requisite
stipulated
dictated
ordained
prescribed
necessitated
unavoidable
inescapable
de rigueur
Opposite:
voluntary
2.
(of a gesture or expression) produced or maintained with effort; affected or unnatural
From what you described, none of those kids were subjected to such elements.
There is even Youtube Kids where many stuff are censored. In fact you can set your kids Youtube settings to block some stuff.
Another example y'all Nigerians get wrong is Big Brother. Y'all said they are forcing the 'immorality' on you.
1. The show is on DSTV, which is a pay tv, so obviously not freely distributed.
2. In fact you need to pay more (have a higher bouquet like Conpact Plus or Premium) to get the stuff. So obviously its not for everyone.
3. Its clearly rated not for kids of a certain age.
4. You can block it from showing even if your kids access it, with some settings,(which they explain copiously)
5. For you to watch it, you need to buy DSTV, get a high bouquet, ignore the ratings, and actually tune to the right channel and sit down to watch it

How does the above fit in as forcing?
Anybody that ends up watching it, wants to watch it. Simple. Nobody forced you.
Same with this Youtube ish

Trollronaldo:
more

So does the benefit outweigh the risk for a country like Nigeria where we already have overwhelmed health infrastructure that can barely take care of our existing issues? Or for any country trying to contain infections?

This research is highly skewed.
Heterosexuals are also as likely to cheat as homo. And you also forget that heteros practice BDSMs too.
This ignores the fact that lesbians are less likely to infect other women

Trollronaldo:
2. CANCER

A 2011 study published in the journal Cancer found gay men demonstrating 1.9 times the odds of reporting a cancer than heterosexual men, while lesbian and bisexual female cancer survivors had 2.0 and 2.3× the odds of reporting fair or poor health compared with heterosexual female cancer survivors. In a related interview, lead researcher Dr. Boehmer specified that said cancers were both AIDSassociated and non-AIDS defining. Examples of the latter were given as, “anal, lung, testicular cancer, and Hodgkin’s lymphoma.

The American Cancer Society’s web page Cancer Facts for Gay and Bisexual Men specifies that gay men are at increased risk for lung, testicular, colon, and anal cancers. Their web page Cancer Facts for Lesbians and Bisexual Women indicates this population finds an increased risk of breast, lung, colon, ovarian, and endometrial cancers. For both the groups listed, the risk factors are described as stemming in part from higher rates of tobacco use, alcohol use, and being overweight. For breast and gynecologic malignancies, the Cancer Facts for Lesbians and Bisexual Women page clarifies, “Women who have not had children and have not breast-fed, have not used oral contraceptives, and are older when they first give birth – all factors more likely to affect lesbians and bisexual women – are also at a slightly higher risk.”

The Gay & Lesbian Medical Association (GLMA) web site features the page Ten Things Lesbians Should discuss with Their Healthcare Provider, which states the following: “Lesbians have the richest concentration of risk factors for breast cancer than any subset of women in the world. And Lesbians have higher risks for many of the gynecologic cancers.

The GLMA’s web page Ten Things Gay Men Should Discuss with Their Healthcare Provider warns, “Gay men may be at risk for death by prostate, testicular, or colon cancer. It also notes the increased rates of anal cancers in gay men.

This is true to an extent.
Now in carcinogenesis, smoking is a high risk agent. Smoking is found to be slightly high amongst gays than straights. But you are missing something…
In Nigeria, and Africa as a whole, smoking is a small part of our populace, even amongst gays. So no, gay Nigerians aren't at higher risks of cancers than their Western counterparts

Trollronaldo:
homosexuality makes STI transmission faster, thereby increasing the problems associated with community health.

As a matter of fact, HIV, the most studied virus and the most difficult virus was first detected in gays.

1. The first case of HIV wasnt amongst gay men. Its an anecdote. HIV was discovered in Central Africa, probably Congo, amongst the natives. And it was postulated(bushmeat theory) to have been caused by hunters being bitten by the infected monkeys or pierced accidentally while cutting meat.

Read up https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_HIV/AIDS

2. Yes, anal sex causes easy spread of viral infections since its relatively more traumatic than vaginal sex but the truth is that it is practiced in both homosexual and heterosexual couples. So it would be unfair to blame only the gays

Trollronaldo:
So does the benefit you highlighted outweigh these risks?

1. STIs are more prevalent withing LGBT2 community.
For example, HIV. HIV disproportionately affects MSM, who accounted for 615,400 (56%) of 1.1 million persons living with HIV and 26,200 (70%) of 39,513 newly diagnosed HIV infections in the United States in 2014.
This also the case with other STIs including : Syphilis. ...
Gonorrhea and Chlamydia.
MRSA.
Genital herpes.
HPV.
Meningococcal disease.
Viral hepatitides

2. Loading, wait for it.

These kind of cases aren't blanket. And are non-specific. Always take your data from research portals and not political portals. I'm not saying they are wrong but they may be influenced by several factors.
Now look at this, from a medical academic site…

The terms MSM (men who have sex with men) and WSW (women who have sex with women) have been used with increasing frequency in the public health literature to examine sexual orientation disparities in sexual health. These categories, however, do not allow researchers to examine potential differences in sexually transmitted infection (STI) risk by sexual orientation identity. Using data from the National Longitudinal Survey of Adolescent Health, this study investigated the relationship between self-reported STIs and both sexual orientation identity and sexual behaviors. Additionally, this study examined the mediating role of victimization and STI risk behaviors on the relationship between sexual orientation and self-reported STIs. STI risk was found to be elevated among heterosexual-WSW and bisexual women, whether they report same-sex partners or not, whereas gay-identified WSW were less likely to report an STI compared to heterosexual women with opposite sex relationships only. Among males, heterosexual-identified MSM did not have a greater likelihood of reporting an STI diagnosis; rather, STI risk was concentrated among gay and bisexual identified men who reported both male and female sexual partners. STI risk behaviors mediated the STI disparities among both males and females, and victimization partially mediated STI disparities among female participants. These results suggest that relying solely on behavior-based categories, such as MSM and WSW, may mischaracterize STI disparities by sexual orientation.
Source https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3575167/#:~:text=Sexual%20Behaviors,-Total%20No.&text=Self%2Dreported%20STI%20rates%20were,heterosexual%2DWSM%20(46.6%25).

What can you glean? In the long run, there's no appreciable difference.
I can go on but this is not the forum for such dissertation

Trollronaldo:
is it not the same thing I mentioned? an ideal atheist is not smart enough to know that there's bad science and not all discoveries of science should be adopted else you will make bad situations worse. Atheism is a subset of scientism, it's close-minded and always exaggerates trust in science. You guys always think science is absolute.
There are many examples of bad science out there, ranging from development of atomic bombs, bioweapon etc. Discoveries that can make us go extinct before anybody knowing it.
Of what benefit is even developing nuclear weapons.
It's why countries like Japan never make, it's not like they don't have the capacity to.

There are exceptions for everything in nature, it's why we have congenital disorder. It doesn't mean you should make it normal. It should be treated as a congenital disored like hypothyroidism, sickle sell etc. I have never seen where someone living with sicke cell anemia is trying to influence normal people to live with it. It's the problem we are having with LGBTQ community. If you have a condition that makes you have such character, then it's understandable and it should be treated as a condition, just as we regard other congenital issues like Albinism. , don't make it a norm. Don't influence others, Albinos don't try to make others Albinos.


nonsense, homosexuality is not a norm within animals. Especially mammals, it's rare to see. This is a laughable excuse.
homosexuality is censored in China
homosexuality was not normal, you re making things up. It existed but not normal. It's not a norm here. Unless you have another definition for what's normal.
faulty deduction fallacy.
Because homosexuality was practiced by some Africans in history is not a ground to reach the conclusion that's was norm, the reasoning is flawed. We have to study the proportion at which homosexuality was practice against pure heterosexualty to be able to reach a conclusion.

1. Science makes good and bad stuff , but you need to have a big gun to enforce peace. You can't enforce peace with words alone.
2. No, atheism isn't a subset of scientism or scientology. Those are different concepts and different definitions and science isn't close-minded. If it was no laws would be discarded
3. Japan decided to go non-nuclear because of the nasty experiences they had fromthe bombing of Nagasaki and Hiroshima
4. Hypothyroidism isn't congenital, bro.
Also LGBTQ Isn't forcing you to be gay, they just want you to treat them as regular peeps. I hope you can read. So your analogy sucks
5. Homosexuality is normal in animals. A dolphin is a mammal and practices homosexuality regularly.
Read up https://facts.net/homosexual-animals-facts/
6. These are recent articles from Chinese sources. Maybe you need to read up and cure yourself of ignorance.
http://www.china.org.cn/english/2001/Oct/21394.htm

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/10/28/business/international/china-gay-homosexuality-textbooks-lawsuit.html

7. You really need to read up on homosexuality on Ancient Africa. I did researches on it years ago.
This is some excerpts
Prior to European colonisation, throughout the African continent we see far different, more relaxed attitudes towards sexual orientation and gender identity. As far back as 2400 BC tombs have been excavated in ancient Egypt with two men’s bodies Niankhkhnum and Khnumhotep embracing each other as lovers. In addition to their acceptance of same sex relationships, Ancient Egyptians, similar to other civilisations at the time not only acknowledge a third gender, but venerate it. Many deities were portrayed androgynously, and goddesses such as Mut (the goddess of Motherhood; lit. translation Mother) and Sekmeht (goddess of war) are often depicted as women with erect joysticks.
Source
https://www.stonewall.org.uk/about-us/news/african-sexuality-and-legacy-imported-homophobia

Read up some more

In Boy-Wives and Female Husbands, a book examining homosexuality and feminism in Africa, the researchers found ‘‘explicit” Bushman artwork that depicts men engaging in same-sex sexual activity. There have been other indicators that the transition from boyhood to adulthood within many African ethnic groups involved same-sex sexual activities
Source https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2015/sep/09/being-gay-african-history-homosexuality-christianity

Bottom line: we were once gay loving mothafuckers before the White Men told us it was wrong.
Currently, they are telling us that it is right

Trollronaldo:
Then highlight those benefits of LGBTQ that outweighs its risk that will persuade non-westerb countries to accepting it?

Give me the list. I am just admiring your inability to personally check things for yourself. There are many diseases that are prevalent within LGBTQ community and its not rocket science STIs pread after within that community.

Can u name them please

Trollronaldo:
2. By sanctioning countries who won't accept it

If I say i won't give you my money, why is that a problem for you? I'm entitled to who I give my money to. Earn your own money and give it to whom you like

Trollronaldo:
So high risk of transmission of STIs associated with gays is not a health challenge?
Is that a building or construction challenge?


Lol 😂

Are lesbians gays or not?

Trollronaldo:
Why is it very hard for you to confirm anything I infer on Google instead of loading me with questions.

It's very easy to browse these things, I have been spoonfeeding you all through this thread.

Does the risk of allowing homosexuality thrive outweigh thr benefits?
If it does, then why do you need to force it down the throat of other countries. It wouldn't be so hard to sell if it does.

1.Their point is to accept people, irrespective of their sexual orientation, religion, gender etc
2. Define 'Forcing it down the throat?`

Trollronaldo:
It creates new public health challenges.
As matter of fact, it can increase the transmission of STIs within a society by many folds.

So can I hear some of the benefits, so we can see how it outweighs the risks and then know how to sell it to other nations?

Are you aware lesbians are less likely to have STDs?

Trollronaldo:
it's not just visa ban, including economic sanctions. If I show you that, you will move the goalpost again

Economic sanctions simply means not giving out handouts or money. Its still their money. Don't get it. How can I threaten you with my own money? Its my money, I can choose who to give it to

Trollronaldo:
the U.S is threatening Visa ban. We all know what that means

Its still their country. Not yours

LordReed:
@TheSourcerer

Lol. Same shit that went through my head

Dtruthspeaker:
We already have a right to kill atheists and other devils.

The Law says evil must be killed. That is why we have the death penalty.

Evil people are just lucky and unlucky that God allowed men to rule themselves and create their own laws called legal with which they use to do anything they like, so therefore this Law cannot be peacefullly enforced.

See, TheSourcerer. Look at this guy's post right here. He hates atheists. Calls them devils and all sorts of slurs. Threatens to kill them without provocation. If you give him a gun, he would kill an atheist. Without provocation. Sound familiar?

TheSourcerer:
I guess no stats and it's just in my head then , then again I don't care lol Faggotts the longest I've spoken on this topic
Jesus I sound so crude to hate , again I really wish I didn't hate them , I'm a freethinking Taoist, I don't hate I have learned not to hate , but this homosexual thing it really is biologically ingrained to hate them and yes as with other races hating on other races or animals against animals I am not compelled at all to love them really I don't know why

See a shrink. You're a pathological hater

Dtruthspeaker:
Man is not the maker of criminal law, God is.

But because men fought God to let them rule themselves, they started making their own laws which is where they created the laws known as legal.

And yet legal is so weak that it cannot stand at all except it is connected to God's Laws.

Law comes from God and even though man created their own legal and can determine that he would punish you for anything, in the end you are still going to answer to God, The Law!

That is where every homosexual, and adulterer and fornicator is in trouble.

How often do you smoke weed?

Trollronaldo:
calling me homophobe will be blackmailing me

Do you know the definition of Homophobe? If you don't fit the bill, I wonder who does?

TheSourcerer:
lol two straight guys cannot argue over fagggots I'm not doing this Reed it's giving them too much importance
I'm an Atheist and I Hate Faggotts

I'm sorry I hate I apologise for the Hate but it's there , It's almost Biological

You can hate in peace but please be logical

TheSourcerer:
with or without the stats I really cannot care less about a gay


And it's a fact these serial killers were faggotss

No, they weren't. Save one

TheSourcerer:
Musculinity I said and of course they may be masculine Faggotss
who cares
They are a threat to Masculinity. Lol masculine faggotts so?

Of course you don't care, if your slur hurts them or not. I imagine if a white man got raped or nearly raped by a black man(like you were), he has every right to call every black man in this world gays. Makes perfect sense

LordReed:
I said it, you are afraid of becoming gay to the extent you can't even be civil in a normal conversation you have to use a slur because you are afraid. You need help.

There are professional psychiatrists devoted to such phobias. He may be exhibiting a PTSD